WASHINGTON/KYIV, Feb 13 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that U.S. and Russian officials would meet in Munich on Friday and that Ukraine was also invited, however Kyiv responded that it did not expect to hold talks with Russia in the German city. "They're having a meeting in Munich tomorrow. Russia's going to be there with our people. Ukraine is also invited, by the way. Not sure exactly who's going to be there from any country, but high-level people from Russia, from Ukraine and from the United States," Trump told reporters. When asked for further details, the White House declined comment. Global political and military leaders are gathering in Germany for the Munich Security Conference. Ukraine does not expect to hold talks with the Russian side in Munich on Friday and believes the United States, Europe and Ukraine need a common position before talks with Moscow, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's communications adviser said.
回复 36楼 qqyxgz 的帖子 回应你的许愿， 呵呵 傻子才像你一样许愿 美国想让司机走人这事是现实 directly reference **Keith Kellogg's statements** about pushing Ukraine to hold elections after a potential ceasefire with Russia: ### 1. **Euromaidan Press** **Title:** *Trump's envoy Kellogg pushes for Ukrainian elections in 2025 after potential ceasefire* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/](https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/) **Summary:** Kellogg emphasized the need for Ukraine to hold elections by the end of 2025 if a ceasefire is reached, echoing Putin’s claims about Zelenskyy’s legitimacy. --- ### 2. **Sky News** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following potential ceasefire, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316](https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316) **Summary:** Kellogg stated that elections “need to be done” to uphold democratic norms, even during wartime, and linked them to potential peace negotiations. --- ### 3. **The Straits Times** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy) **Summary:** Kellogg reiterated that elections should occur by 2025 if a truce is achieved, framing it as part of Trump’s evolving peace plan. --- ### 4. **Yahoo News (via Reuters)** **Title:** *Exclusive-U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html) **Summary:** Details discussions within the Trump administration about conditioning a ceasefire on Ukrainian elections, with Kellogg advocating for electoral processes during wartime. --- ### 5. **Firstpost** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections by year-end following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html](https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html) **Summary:** Highlights Kellogg’s assertion that elections are essential for democracy and could pave the way for post-ceasefire negotiations. --- ### 6. **Afghan Voice Agency (AVA)** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections after potential ceasefire with Russia, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says](https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says) **Summary:** Notes Kellogg’s emphasis on elections as part of a truce deal, despite Ukrainian legal barriers under martial law. --- ### 7. **News Pravda** **Title:** *Reuters: The United States wants Ukraine to hold elections after the ceasefire* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html](https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html) **Summary:** A condensed report on Kellogg’s remarks, emphasizing his alignment with Trump’s strategy to link elections to peace efforts. --- These links directly address Kellogg’s role in advocating for Ukrainian elections as part of a ceasefire agreement. For further details, refer to the full articles.
Silverwing 发表于 2025-02-14 13:51 回复 36楼 qqyxgz 的帖子 回应你的许愿， 呵呵 傻子才像你一样许愿 美国想让司机走人这事是现实 directly reference **Keith Kellogg's statements** about pushing Ukraine to hold elections after a potential ceasefire with Russia: ### 1. **Euromaidan Press** **Title:** *Trump's envoy Kellogg pushes for Ukrainian elections in 2025 after potential ceasefire* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/](https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/) **Summary:** Kellogg emphasized the need for Ukraine to hold elections by the end of 2025 if a ceasefire is reached, echoing Putin’s claims about Zelenskyy’s legitimacy. --- ### 2. **Sky News** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following potential ceasefire, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316](https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316) **Summary:** Kellogg stated that elections “need to be done” to uphold democratic norms, even during wartime, and linked them to potential peace negotiations. --- ### 3. **The Straits Times** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy) **Summary:** Kellogg reiterated that elections should occur by 2025 if a truce is achieved, framing it as part of Trump’s evolving peace plan. --- ### 4. **Yahoo News (via Reuters)** **Title:** *Exclusive-U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html) **Summary:** Details discussions within the Trump administration about conditioning a ceasefire on Ukrainian elections, with Kellogg advocating for electoral processes during wartime. --- ### 5. **Firstpost** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections by year-end following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html](https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html) **Summary:** Highlights Kellogg’s assertion that elections are essential for democracy and could pave the way for post-ceasefire negotiations. --- ### 6. **Afghan Voice Agency (AVA)** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections after potential ceasefire with Russia, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says](https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says) **Summary:** Notes Kellogg’s emphasis on elections as part of a truce deal, despite Ukrainian legal barriers under martial law. --- ### 7. **News Pravda** **Title:** *Reuters: The United States wants Ukraine to hold elections after the ceasefire* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html](https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html) **Summary:** A condensed report on Kellogg’s remarks, emphasizing his alignment with Trump’s strategy to link elections to peace efforts. --- These links directly address Kellogg’s role in advocating for Ukrainian elections as part of a ceasefire agreement. For further details, refer to the full articles.
只要美国把军事援助停掉，弹药消耗完了，自然就和平了
特朗普对乌克兰的前景，已经看的很清晰了，乌克兰未来会并入俄罗斯，不如乘现在多捞点资源开采
为什么非得选慕尼黑？
果真历史是个轮回。慕尼黑协定，不就是几个大国在慕尼黑谈判，强迫小国以土地换和平么？
这是准备搞一个慕尼黑协定plus?
说得很对， 问题是哪边的战争机器先死机还不一定
乌克兰拒绝了特不靠谱的邀请， 拒绝与俄罗斯会谈
你这个人从来看不清大势，写出来的东西滑稽可笑，你那点见识真对不住你的年龄。再说一个黄皮这么在意俄乌争斗，赶紧去乌克兰前线杀毛子去，挨两天航空炸弹脑子就清醒了
我们走在 第三次大战的 路上
从开战第一天我对战争走向的预测出来就没有错过， 不好意思让俄粉破防了
By the way , 你是什么皮？
这几年欧盟的经济真挺差的
当年乌克兰的核武器，技术和发射纽都是俄罗斯控制的，而且还没有钱维护。对乌克兰而言，就是堆没用的废铜烂铁，还不如换点现金呢
即便是破铜烂铁，有那点破烂在手上，至少人家有所顾忌，不会是现在这种任人蹂躏的局面。
太祖别的不说，即便穷得没裤子穿也坚决要把核武弄出来，这个决策还是相当英明的。人家国家千方百计求而不得的东西，他们要销毁，哎。
没有永远的大国， 国家有起有落， 战争三年俄罗斯被打出原形。 “莫斯科有高人”， 发动一众小弟搞事， 然后一众小弟被搞死。 如果不是俄罗斯犯了众怒， 如果不是乌克兰坚持抵抗， 大鹅现在也不会面临墙倒众人推的局面
“莫斯科有高人”
想起来就要笑
乌克兰从来没有过核武器， 当年是苏联部署在乌克兰的而已， 乌克兰既没有技术，也没有日常管理权限，更没有发射等权限。
不要再以讹传讹了
接着打， 下面二哈开始恢复制造原子弹， 造个大号的五千万吨级的众生平等器
大家一起见太奶。。。。
乌克兰还有钱买饭吃吗？饭都快吃不起了还核武器。
欧盟先帮乌克兰把欠美国的3500亿结一下哈
同一时期还有所谓北约不东扩
墙倒众人推的对象是乌克兰 你在平行世界？
又冒出来乌克兰赢麻了
你说的对， 钉在这
不是正在上演的剧情吗？ 你自己把眼睛闭上， 耳朵捂上， 然后用空想模拟乌克兰必将赢麻
你以为大家认为这事能成？ 成了， 乌克兰割地求和， 还给西方要为奴100年 不成，乌军士气大降（老子在前线浴血奋战，尼玛金主要卖我），尤其是被下达死守与城共存亡命令的士兵（尼玛凭啥啊？）。 俄军从这事上也没啥损失啊
你要是普京， 你会拒绝接触吗？
本来就全是利益算计， 大家都是体面生意人， 非要出来一个神经病全球广播立各种道德制高点flag 关键是演戏也就罢了， 居然自己PUA自己信了， 还居然会玩逼宫？ 反了丫的？ 搞得大家谈生意都没法子快乐的谈
棋子若是没有棋子的觉悟，那就滚蛋吧
今天你生日？ 许了个多大的愿啊
不是许愿请加上司机滚蛋的时间…… 众所周知，司机终究是要下台的
😄,蚂蚁驮葱，有典故吗？ 听过猪鼻子插大葱装大象。
未必啊。中国和日本之间就有很好的先例，什么敌后武装，游击队，地下组织，暗杀袭击，说不定乌克兰也有胆量这么干下去。对于破罐破摔的乌克兰来说，完全有能力让俄罗斯永无宁日，现在乌克兰还有一丝丝希望西方主持公道，不要把人逼急了。不排除这是美国的一盘棋
呵呵 你自己天天许愿习惯了， 质问别人许愿？各种乌军赢麻乌克兰必胜的许愿实现了没啊就在这飘？
就拿你发的这个主楼做个例子， 你的爽点在于许愿欧洲会强力支持乌克兰，并成功对抗美俄和谈，你的爽点基于你的wishful thinking 我的爽点是乌克兰被最大后盾榜一大哥抛弃后， 垂死找榜二大哥挽尊。
看到差别没？ 你的兴奋点在未来， 我的兴奋点在于当下， 我的嘲笑哲学里面， 基于wishful thinking 的东西没有情绪价值
自己几分钟前说过的话， 现在立马转进就太没意思了， 没品
直接点， 司机这颗反倒天罡的棋子什么时候滚蛋？
回应你的许愿， 呵呵 傻子才像你一样许愿 美国想让司机走人这事是现实
directly reference **Keith Kellogg's statements** about pushing Ukraine to hold elections after a potential ceasefire with Russia:
### 1. **Euromaidan Press** **Title:** *Trump's envoy Kellogg pushes for Ukrainian elections in 2025 after potential ceasefire* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/](https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02/02/trumps-envoy-kellogg-pushes-for-ukrainian-elections-in-2025-after-potential-ceasefire/) **Summary:** Kellogg emphasized the need for Ukraine to hold elections by the end of 2025 if a ceasefire is reached, echoing Putin’s claims about Zelenskyy’s legitimacy.
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### 2. **Sky News** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following potential ceasefire, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316](https://news.sky.com/story/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-potential-ceasefire-trump-envoy-says-13301316) **Summary:** Kellogg stated that elections “need to be done” to uphold democratic norms, even during wartime, and linked them to potential peace negotiations.
---
### 3. **The Straits Times** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy) **Summary:** Kellogg reiterated that elections should occur by 2025 if a truce is achieved, framing it as part of Trump’s evolving peace plan.
---
### 4. **Yahoo News (via Reuters)** **Title:** *Exclusive-U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423665.html) **Summary:** Details discussions within the Trump administration about conditioning a ceasefire on Ukrainian elections, with Kellogg advocating for electoral processes during wartime.
---
### 5. **Firstpost** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections by year-end following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html](https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-by-year-end-following-a-ceasefire-says-trump-envoy-13858759.html) **Summary:** Highlights Kellogg’s assertion that elections are essential for democracy and could pave the way for post-ceasefire negotiations.
---
### 6. **Afghan Voice Agency (AVA)** **Title:** *US wants Ukraine to hold elections after potential ceasefire with Russia, Trump envoy says* **Date:** February 2, 2025 **Link:** [https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says](https://www.avapress.com/en/news/306446/us-wants-ukraine-to-hold-elections-after-potential-ceasefire-with-russia-trump-envoy-says) **Summary:** Notes Kellogg’s emphasis on elections as part of a truce deal, despite Ukrainian legal barriers under martial law.
---
### 7. **News Pravda** **Title:** *Reuters: The United States wants Ukraine to hold elections after the ceasefire* **Date:** February 1, 2025 **Link:** [https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html](https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/02/01/1020941.html) **Summary:** A condensed report on Kellogg’s remarks, emphasizing his alignment with Trump’s strategy to link elections to peace efforts.
---
These links directly address Kellogg’s role in advocating for Ukrainian elections as part of a ceasefire agreement. For further details, refer to the full articles.
他很聪明。22年时候，逃到西方的话，什么都没有准备好，什么都没有，也没多少钱，最终结局很糟糕。
现在他是抗战英雄，亿万富翁，有名有钱。全世界的有钱名人。
敌后武装，游击队，地下组织？ 你是生活在哪个平行世界？ 你这话在2022年估计还能忽悠到人， 现在都3年了 哪儿来的乌军游击队？
就举个阿夫迪卡破城战的例子， 乌克兰作为“守卫自己国土”的军队， 居然不知道城市的下水道情况， 反而作为“侵略者”的俄军利用下水道突击导致阿夫迪卡全线崩溃。
为啥？ 组织进攻的俄军114旅是原炖列茨克人民军第一师， 阿夫迪卡是人家的老家， 鸠占鹊巢的乌军才是外来者， 门外汉， 被原来居民矿工农民组成的“俄军”赶跑。
这种情况你还吹敌后武装，游击队，地下组织？
了不得了， 美国人耶， 是美国人要司机滚蛋呀～～ 世界可是美国人说了算的哟……
给你减点难度，说吧， 司机是在战争结束前还是结束后下台？ 如果你不是许愿而是在预测
你的中文是体育老师教的？ 还是说你的脑回路永远只会许愿？
这是我的原话： “这就是美国为啥在谋划让司机滚蛋”
我的爽点不需要“司机滚蛋”发生， 我的爽点就是“美国想让司机滚蛋”，而这是正在发生的事实
不过这种解释对于习惯性空想主义乌粉来说， 也许是对牛弹琴
美国人想让司机滚蛋
不需要全世界听美国的， 也不需要司机真的滚蛋
这事， 就已经可以承担爽点了。 你自己品
原来如此，“滚蛋”这个 没有发生的事， 而且你不清楚将来是否发生、何时发生， 只是因为有人在促成这件事，就能让你爽….
没意见
在乌东乌军才是屠杀平民的侵略军啊
你大可以不屑一顾“有人”痴心妄想， 但是， 当这个人恰好是金主爸爸，榜一大哥， 这就尴尬了
给你总结下 《榜一大哥太绝情》 《我和榜二大哥才是真爱》 会磕爽剧都知道， 多巴胺满满， 全程无尿点
如果你感受不到这种幽默和爽点， 那就真没救了
对了edit: 番外 《哭！榜二大哥也在菜单上》
“如果你不在桌上，你就在桌上” --- 布林肯。
地下组织游击队是学习成本和操作成本最低的斗争方式，只需要有一条：意愿，你便阻止不了。除非种族灭绝
最难的不就是意愿吗？ 乌东人看着没啥意愿组织游击队打俄军， 反而组织民兵打乌克兰国防军来着？这个意愿，俄军真无法阻止啊， 谁有病会去阻止啊？
所以？
笨蛋， 看老子把桌子掀啦 ——— 习大大
哈哈哈哈， 特不靠谱的脸啊，让人左手右手一个慢动作， 转圈抽。 自己亲口对媒体说邀请了俄乌双方会谈， 结果一个都不来谈…..
是谁说的， 司机是美国的小狗？ 出来走两步 是谁说的， 美俄谈好条件， 通知乌克兰照办， 出来发表一下获奖感言 是谁说的， 欧盟离开美国不行， 来谈谈体会
据扎哈罗娃说，俄罗斯没有获得与会邀请。 这就奇怪了， 慕安会是一点面子都不给不靠谱留
这小尾巴翘的，不知道的以为司机加冕球长了呢 你自己的主楼标题 “乌克兰拒绝参加慕尼黑与俄国会谈” 你自己的回帖宣称“扎哈罗娃说，俄罗斯没有获得与会邀请” 那么俄罗斯不参加慕尼黑安全会议，不是应该很正常的事情么？ 这似乎是俄罗斯一贯的立场，被你说的仿佛“俄罗斯一直想参加，却被司机否决了一样”
咱们复盘下，美国撇开乌克兰这只狗，和俄毛直接对话，狗急了，四处闹腾，甚至到处认二主子（欧盟），俄毛嫌美国连条狗都管教不好，不谈了
然后你在为狗自嗨：赢麻了。。。。。
咱们捋一捋3方： 俄毛： 一直开放谈判通道，不见利益不松口， 和事件前比较，成或不成，他也没失去什么，得到了内部分裂的对手 乌克兰：满足了司机表演欲，据说还“左手右手一个慢动作，转圈抽特不靠谱的脸”，与最大金主决裂，跟榜二大哥眉来眼去，下顿狗粮都快断了 美国： 川普屁颠屁颠跑去用热脸贴普京冷屁股， 被全球最恶心的男人“左手右手一个慢动作，转圈抽脸”， 自家养的狗都要闹腾不听话，脸丢尽了 欧盟：呵呵，不够格上桌，当菜都嫌硌牙，要不是乌克兰抬出来当挡箭牌，who cares?
多谢顶帖。 下次有新发展， 再用事实打你的脸
真的，永远都是说了算的，说了算
不用谢， 顶起来是让人看你怎么丢人现眼的
他会在乌克兰一直战斗下去的
乌克兰作为 北约和俄罗斯的 缓冲地带，
欧洲不敢放弃