China proposes Putin-Trump summit to end Ukraine war, WSJ reports BEIJING, Feb 13 (Reuters) - China has floated a proposal to hold a summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump to help end the Ukraine war, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Chinese officials in recent weeks have raised a proposal with the Trump team through intermediaries to hold a summit between the two leaders and to facilitate peacekeeping efforts after an eventual truce, according to people in Beijing and Washington cited by the newspaper. Asked about the newspaper report at a regular news conference on Thursday, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said he had "no information to offer". Trump said Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy had expressed a desire for peace in separate phone calls with him on Wednesday, and Trump had ordered top U.S. officials to begin talks on ending the war in Ukraine. The Kremlin had said Putin and Trump had agreed to meet, and Putin had invited Trump to visit Moscow. Trump said their first meeting would "probably" take place soon in Saudi Arabia. "China is happy to see Russia and the United States strengthen communication on a series of international issues," said Guo Jiakun, the Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson. "Russia and the United States are both influential major countries." No Ukraine peace talks have been held since the early months of the conflict, now approaching its third anniversary. Trump's predecessor, Joe Biden, had no direct contact with Putin after Russia's invasion. "China has always believed that dialogue and negotiation are the only viable way to resolve the crisis and has always insisted on promoting peace and dialogue," Guo said. "China supports all efforts conducive to a peaceful resolution of the crisis, and will continue to maintain communication with relevant parties and continue to play a constructive role in promoting a political solution to the crisis." China has been repeatedly urged by the West to use its close relationship with Russia to help end the war. Beijing has said it was not a party to the crisis but that it had been consistently promoting peace talks on its own terms. In a peace plan last year, China, jointly with Brazil, proposed an international peace conference "at a proper time" and called for equal participation by both Ukraine and Russia. Russia occupies about one-fifth of Ukraine and has demanded Kyiv cede more territory and be rendered permanently neutral under any peace deal. Ukraine demands Russia withdraw from captured territory and says Kyiv must receive NATO membership or equivalent security guarantees to prevent Moscow from attacking again.
Donald Trump says he wants to, along with China and Russia, halve their military budgets President Donald Trump announces he will meet with both China and Russia and urge everybody to lower defense spending all around. "I'm gonna say - we can spend this on other things. We don't have to spend this on military."
Donald Trump says he wants to, along with China and Russia, halve their military budgets President Donald Trump announces he will meet with both China and Russia and urge everybody to lower defense spending all around. "I'm gonna say - we can spend this on other things. We don't have to spend this on military."
目前!川普没有明确表示反对,虽然好像也没公开认同
那也是华尔街日报的知情人对记者造谣,我哪知道!
我说的就是华尔街日报造谣!
BEIJING, Feb 13 (Reuters) - China has floated a proposal to hold a summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump to help end the Ukraine war, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Chinese officials in recent weeks have raised a proposal with the Trump team through intermediaries to hold a summit between the two leaders and to facilitate peacekeeping efforts after an eventual truce, according to people in Beijing and Washington cited by the newspaper. Asked about the newspaper report at a regular news conference on Thursday, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said he had "no information to offer". Trump said Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy had expressed a desire for peace in separate phone calls with him on Wednesday, and Trump had ordered top U.S. officials to begin talks on ending the war in Ukraine. The Kremlin had said Putin and Trump had agreed to meet, and Putin had invited Trump to visit Moscow. Trump said their first meeting would "probably" take place soon in Saudi Arabia. "China is happy to see Russia and the United States strengthen communication on a series of international issues," said Guo Jiakun, the Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson. "Russia and the United States are both influential major countries." No Ukraine peace talks have been held since the early months of the conflict, now approaching its third anniversary. Trump's predecessor, Joe Biden, had no direct contact with Putin after Russia's invasion. "China has always believed that dialogue and negotiation are the only viable way to resolve the crisis and has always insisted on promoting peace and dialogue," Guo said. "China supports all efforts conducive to a peaceful resolution of the crisis, and will continue to maintain communication with relevant parties and continue to play a constructive role in promoting a political solution to the crisis."
China has been repeatedly urged by the West to use its close relationship with Russia to help end the war. Beijing has said it was not a party to the crisis but that it had been consistently promoting peace talks on its own terms. In a peace plan last year, China, jointly with Brazil, proposed an international peace conference "at a proper time" and called for equal participation by both Ukraine and Russia. Russia occupies about one-fifth of Ukraine and has demanded Kyiv cede more territory and be rendered permanently neutral under any peace deal. Ukraine demands Russia withdraw from captured territory and says Kyiv must receive NATO membership or equivalent security guarantees to prevent Moscow from attacking again.
战后重建是多大的单你不知道啊? 你维和部队在那儿,你说谁的工程队最占便宜?
现在造谣的都这么嚣张吗?大媒体也能公开造谣了,这也行?中国领导层又没失智,又没发疯,怎么可能做这种脑残事情。
不过也是,上行下效吧,现在大家一起来造谣吧,只要来个匿名消息,有关官员,就随便说,反正没人管
主要是战后重建可是万亿美元为单位的大单啊。 谁不想参与下?
会不会是要对台湾下手的 前奏?
挺好的,中国要想把美国拉下神坛,应该参与更多国际事务,体现领导船
反正川普说了,一个美国士兵也不踏上乌克兰, 希望中国出更多力
川普派人去乌克兰收账,这个账乌克兰不知道何年马月还清。战后重建的钱哪里来?中国现在踏上去,能不能收回成本?
Play a role,和直接派部队,完全是两回事
外媒的确说的是维和部队啊
中国是联合国五个常任理事国中派出维和部队最多的国家。中国军队已累计派出维和军事人员3.5万余人次,先后参加了24项联合国维和行动,被国际社会誉为“维和行动的关键因素和关键力量”。 https://www.un.org/zh/events/peacekeepersday/service/china.shtml
是不是基建狂人要开始布局抢重建的生意了
为实现真正停火,乌克兰总统此前已向到访的欧盟委员表达了“希望派驻国际维和部队”的意愿。大公网记者在活动最后的提问环节第一个发问:向冲突地区派出维和部队须经联合国安理会或联大决议,而中国是安理会常任理事国,请问乌方有没有就此事同中方沟通?以及,是否愿意邀请中国军队赴乌克兰维和? 焦明大使回答说,一年前在联大有关乌克兰独立的决议问题上有部分国家投了反对票,我们的立场很明确,包括俄罗斯在内的这些国家不可能来乌维和;中国当时投了弃权票,所以,如果中方愿意的话,乌方将对中国维和部队表示欢迎。目前,乌克兰仅同欧盟讨论过派驻维和部队的问题。
谁能付账单?吴克难?
烏克蘭抓住北朝鮮的戰俘, 中國沒有直接出面而已.
老美搓火打架,挣军火钱
打完了,中国去维和,挣基建钱
lol搞不好中美其实是一伙儿的?
美國能有勇氣拉胯自己腐敗的政府重建, 中國敢嗎?
乌克兰哪来的钱做基建?矿产如果被俄国控制或者卖给美国还债,乌克兰几乎没有更多可卖的。
没看到相关报导。。
要不你贴一下??
话别说的那么满,说知道那个没文化的能干出啥事
而且,维和部队的军人,也有人生安全问题啊!去年,还是什么时候,有几个中国军人,在中东的维和部队服务,被以色列炸死了!
据说乌克兰的国有资产,大部分都抵押给黑石财团了!
其实除了中国,别的国家更不可能,要么俄罗斯不同意,要么乌克兰不同意
据乌克兰和美国官员说,在本星期的慕尼黑安全会议上,美乌两国正在考虑一项关键的矿产协议。
在会晤了乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基(Volodymyr Zelenskyy)后,美国财政部长斯科特·贝森特(Scott Bessent)描述说,在乌克兰与俄罗斯的战争结束时,这项拟以的协议对乌克兰来说是一个潜在的“长期安全屏障”。
泽连斯基证实,乌克兰收到了协议的初稿,并表示希望能在慕尼黑达成最终协议。在乌克兰试图坚决抵抗俄罗斯的持续入侵之际,乌克兰希望获得美国的持续支持。
与此同时,美国总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)已表示愿意达成一项乌克兰稀土资源的协议,以此交换美国对乌克兰战争努力的持续支持。
“我对他们(乌方)说,我想要等价的,比如价值5000亿美元的稀土,”特朗普在福克斯新闻(Fox News)星期一(2月10日)播出的一次采访中说。
全球格局变化中的战略资源
近年来,全球对工业必不可少的关键原材料(CRM)的竞争愈演愈烈。需求量巨大的资源包括铀、钛、锂、石墨、镍和铝,以及用于一系列高科技装置中的稀土矿物。
中国目前是世界最主要的稀土矿物供应国。根据世界经济论坛(World Economic Foru)最近的一份报告,中国提供欧盟对这些资源需求的大约40%。其他重要的供应国包括澳大利亚、南非、加拿大和巴西。
美国和欧盟多年来一直在努力减少他们对中国稀土的依赖。因此,乌克兰可以趁机而入。
美国手上有一份50种关键原材料的清单。据乌克兰矿产投资公司BGV的董事谢尔盖·沃伊采夫斯基(Serhii Voitsehovskyi)说,乌克兰至少拥有其中22种原材料。 这其中包括大量稀土材料矿藏,尽管由于战争和缺乏足够的地质数据,这些矿产目前大多未得到开发。
已探明的储量包括世界上数量最大的一些石墨、铀、钛和锂矿藏--这些材料对从可再生能源到国防等行业都至关重要。
“我们拥有欧洲最大的锂矿藏和大量铀储量,随着核能在全球复苏,这些正变得越来越有价值,”沃伊采霍夫斯基说。
罗曼·奥皮马赫(Roman Opimakh)曾任乌克兰地质调查局局长。他指出,美国越来越迫切需要可靠的CRM来源。
“过去几年来,美国的CRM生产减少了24%,”他对美国之音(VOA)说。“与此同时,中国采取措施禁止直接出口某些材料,转而青睐增值产品。这导致迫切需要替代资源,而乌克兰完全有能力填补这一空白。”
在两家都同意停战之前,维和就是JOKE, 根本不存在。
特朗普表示,他希望与中国和俄罗斯一起将军事预算减半。
特朗普总统宣布他将与中国和俄罗斯会面,并敦促各方全面降低国防开支。
“我会说--我们可以把这些钱花在其他地方,我们没必要把钱花在军事上。”
Donald Trump says he wants to, along with China and Russia, halve their military budgets
President Donald Trump announces he will meet with both China and Russia and urge everybody to lower defense spending all around.
"I'm gonna say - we can spend this on other things. We don't have to spend this on military."
乌克兰如果签了这个协议,就是傻了。就和直接下场打Russia这样的决策一样的傻。认为把国家卖了,别人为了保护自己的资产,就会把你的国家当成自己的国家来保护,这种推论太傻缺了。当时的中国卖国求荣那么多年,没有那个国家来帮的,说不定他们会更快的和russia 达成协议,什么利益都给,只要不动我的那几块矿产就够了。russia 说没问题,我还给钱派军给你保护着。
中国作为五常之一,一直都派维和部队的呀,有啥奇怪的。
对,你们怎么打都行,只要矿区那里不开炮,能一路把矿资源运到港口就行了。没人care 其他的。
可能吃亏不讨好 西方大国搞破坏, 但能发挥国际舞台影响力,觉得不行赶快开溜
应该就是这个意思。停火协议里会规定双方交界的一定范围内为中立区,由联合国维和部队管理,所以在和相关国家讨论维和部队的成员。
真正的聪明人是顺势而为,而不是任着性子来
日本的安倍晋三就是个聪明人,虽然看上去卑微,但是火中取栗为日本谋取了最大可能的利益
不直接参与战争挺好,可是战后重建为什么也不参与?
怎么会对没好处呢?这都是工作机会啊,底层青壮年去打工赚了钱可以寄回去养家也可以存起来将来提早退休
是,看BBC这些天都在发些啥(四声)!给钱不给钱都一样那以后谁还给钱?
但问题是老美已经把乌的资源全部捏在手上了啊, 还是不要搅合的好,老美绝对会在那给使坏
乌克兰卖给美国了。美国出钱,中国帮忙重建。双赢。
中国不可能去打仗。也就是维持一下秩序,然后做重建工程。
中国可能也要show muscle 给大家看看。
中国在中间当和事佬,俄乌欧都会感谢中国。这么大的便宜事,美国不会同意的。
会不会美国也感谢中国?因为川普是真想早日结束俄乌战争,而且希望中国对此发挥作用。
美国希望中国帮忙,是要中国少帮俄罗斯,让俄罗斯在吐出利益条件下停火。但不会想看到中国抢功。变成中国是调停的最重要第三方。
如果是坏:嘴上先说,哎呀大家一起减军费吧,然后自己不减等对方减。 如果是蠢:自己减了对方不减。 无论是蠢还是坏,对中俄都不凑效,所以说这话图的是啥?哦,国内那些蠢或者坏的maga
乌克兰有这么多钱么,现有的资源早就抵押给了美犹,连军队政府开支都是援助的,这些你以为是无偿的么,都是有抵押或借贷,拿什么来偿付这大单,中国就算想要大单也得有抵押比如资源,乌克兰有么
中国站中立就已经是出更多力了,中国不想趟这摊浑水只是做买卖,还想中国咋做,中国站哪边都是给双方更大压力,不如站中间至少还可以调停的
美国当老大也不是免费的, 很多隐形的好处, 不在明面上。
我记得乌克兰是二选一,当年就预料到这里可能会有问题,所以乌克兰的路线是最好的,最节省时间的,但同时有备用第二路线。
中国维护部队到了乌克兰,到了欧洲,打开整个欧洲的一带一路基本上八九不离十,谁也挡不住了。
你没搞明白美国为什么需要中东和俄乌和解,那是因为要腾出手来搞中国,这是唯一的原因和动机
不可能搞中国了,别做梦了。一,你也搞不过了,二,昨天马斯克已经表态了,川普和他都认为,再干预其他国家意识形态,再干预其他国家政治制度,再搞各种颜色革命颠覆别国政权是非常stupid的事情了, 尊重各国发展模式,只要不损害美国利益就行,合作共赢。
搞中国已经没有那个实力了。美国内部问题太多了。
虽然狠话很多,但已经没能力出击外部了。越挥拳头,腰下破绽越暴露。
川总现在只想退守美洲了。
为什么不先搞定俄罗斯,再来搞中国?
还是说俄罗斯搞不定,所以看看能不能搞定中国?
中国比俄罗斯强大多了,俄罗斯都搞不定,还想搞中国?
就是,耿爽都明确对西方说了, 别再动不动说中国帮着俄罗斯打仗了,中国真要帮,战场早不是这局面了,不够明白吗?!
GDP连一个广东都没有的俄罗斯都搞不定, 还搞中国, 梦啥呢?
联合国怎么可能通过。老毛子不会答应的。
因为。。。所以。。。。这就有不派的理由了。因为意识形态关系,中国在国际上做事还是低调为好。
我觉得川普阵营里也是有派别的,你说的这是一派,白人至上的种族主义份子也是一派,一心想维护美国霸权与中国干的也是一派,当然这几派有重叠,不是绝的的。但目前川普和马斯克这派占主导,川普以后就难说了。
再想想,谈判上新闻没你的事,维持治安归你管。 看上去是个坑。 谁谈谁出维和部队。
这从冷战搞意识形态都搞了几十年了,惯性这么大不可能说停就停的,川也就四年,下届新人总统要是狗改不了吃屎本性,还得搞。
搞乱国内国外也符合美国幕后统治民族的利益,对内搞LGBT,对外搞意识形态,分散阶级矛盾注意力,天龙族才能继续搞钱,而不被整。要彻底解决,估计又要纳粹化,
目前一个德国人后裔,一个南非人,狼狈为奸,有可能这个倾向。是好,是坏,还真不好说