Yuangungun 发表于 2025-01-30 20:59 https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-has-tense-exchange-cnn-reporter-over-blaming-dei-policies-plane-crash 最后还不忘了威胁女记者一下，I’m surprised that the question is coming from u
AA航班飞行员的爸爸原来也是部队飞行员，他的判断也是直升机没看到jet. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/pilot-american-airlines-jet-crashed-near-washington-dc-had-georgia-ties Timothy, who served 20 years as a helicopter pilot in the Army, is familiar with the complexities of such operations. "In the '90s, I used to fly in and out of the Pentagon regularly, and I can tell you if you are flying on the route over the Potomac and wearing night vision goggles, it's going to be very hard to see that plane. If you're not wearing the goggles, then you might have a chance," he explained. He believes the commercial PSA jet was following proper procedures, but the military helicopter made a tragic error. "From what I can see, those guys turned right into the jet. I think the PSA jet was doing everything right. The Army pilot made a grave error. It hurts me because those are my brothers, and now my son is dead," Timothy said.
titicaca 发表于 2025-01-30 21:32 AA航班飞行员的爸爸原来也是部队飞行员，他的判断也是直升机没看到jet. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/pilot-american-airlines-jet-crashed-near-washington-dc-had-georgia-ties Timothy, who served 20 years as a helicopter pilot in the Army, is familiar with the complexities of such operations. "In the '90s, I used to fly in and out of the Pentagon regularly, and I can tell you if you are flying on the route over the Potomac and wearing night vision goggles, it's going to be very hard to see that plane. If you're not wearing the goggles, then you might have a chance," he explained. He believes the commercial PSA jet was following proper procedures, but the military helicopter made a tragic error. "From what I can see, those guys turned right into the jet. I think the PSA jet was doing everything right. The Army pilot made a grave error. It hurts me because those are my brothers, and now my son is dead," Timothy said.
titicaca 发表于 2025-01-30 21:32 AA航班飞行员的爸爸原来也是部队飞行员，他的判断也是直升机没看到jet. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/pilot-american-airlines-jet-crashed-near-washington-dc-had-georgia-ties Timothy, who served 20 years as a helicopter pilot in the Army, is familiar with the complexities of such operations. "In the '90s, I used to fly in and out of the Pentagon regularly, and I can tell you if you are flying on the route over the Potomac and wearing night vision goggles, it's going to be very hard to see that plane. If you're not wearing the goggles, then you might have a chance," he explained. He believes the commercial PSA jet was following proper procedures, but the military helicopter made a tragic error. "From what I can see, those guys turned right into the jet. I think the PSA jet was doing everything right. The Army pilot made a grave error. It hurts me because those are my brothers, and now my son is dead," Timothy said.
威胁记者，属于川普常规操作了
虽然有这种可能性但一点规避都没有不合理。还有我前面也提了，空中撞机需要（x,y,z,t）四个坐标吻合，如果不是故意为之，几乎不可能发生，就算黑鹰闭着眼睛机场乱飞一个小时，都不大可能撞上另一个飞机
飞机离地面200feet基本就在机场里了吧。机场外飞200feet 不可能撞commercial flight？
但是最后十秒没有刹车，转弯，调高度，减速，啥也米有就撞上去了，真不是故意吗。
两个人面对面蒙着眼睛对着扔网球，两个球撞一起的机会多大。 何况飞机vs 机场，这是对面扔乒乓球。
是的，黑鹰非常可疑
有没有规避现有视频也不能下定论啊。小概率事件必然发生，可巧不巧就发生了。除非黑鹰故意的，不过里面有三个人在，可能性也不大。
你在黑汤姆克鲁斯吗
说同一机场前一天也有飞机因为直升飞机复飞，不知道是不是同一个直升飞机。 这一带直升飞机很多，大家遵守高度规定，一般不影响commercial flights.
应该遵守的高度是200， 但是太繁忙了，遵守不了。 昨天没出事那辆直升机飞的300feet， 也是违规的。
这么看，黑鹰故意撞客机也不是没有可能。我知道阴谋论了，但谁又知道呢……
root cause: 压根不应该这么设计： 让军机和民航共用同高度空域， 民航的机动能力约等于零，观察外部能力约等于10% 实际上一切都指望军机驾驶员一定要眼观六路耳听八方还不能操作失误 ， 哪次没做到而同时有民航起飞/降落，那么就会完蛋。。。。。
这种把多少人的安全完全寄托在某一个两个飞行员的 无法预估的观测上，压根就是个失败的设计
是德国民航吧
不共享就意味着建更多的机场。 这个在美国也不现实，没有钱。
就是飞200就不会影响民航。 阴谋论说不定昨天就是同一个直升机飞行员呢，故意的，不过昨天没成。
最后一句听着太心痛了
米国的大城市一般都是三个国际机场
天啊 太心疼了。这个爸爸好厉害
那就不应该同意让飞行员个人操作来规避民航。 这种时候需要塔楼说descend to 200feet, 空中静止，啥的直接指令，而不是问飞行员see it？ think u can handle it ？
所以戴那个眼镜是为了看不见东西？！
夜视仪能看清楚黑暗区域，但是任何夜视goggle都有俩缺点： 视野受限， 会被高亮度saturate，比如近距离客机的航行灯极其亮
贱货
这个我去年也听到了，这个部门不能DEI，素质包括心理素质都很重要，总统估计指的是这个，但是第一时间不应该甩锅，先把事情搞清楚，这里面黑鹰直升机驾驶的问题应该是最大的，自己的飞行高度完全超过限高，然后视野没看到客机，反正是无法理解到底怎么回事
同意，有规矩就要守，先把高度降到200尺，这个悲剧就能避免，要求晚上目测来避免，只能碰运气了，一百次里面一次事故也很多了
查一下昨天的那架直升机飞行纪录，要是同一拨人，那就是很阴谋论了
我听录音塔台人员问了两三遍，军机的人都要求肉眼识别，应该就是给军方的人一个面子吧，谁想到军机上飞行员水平这么差，只能说低估了军方的自大，高估了军方的水平。
盲猜一下：可能空管以为军方就是要训练夜视飞行训练目测separation ，所以不好阻拦，只能提醒前面有个CRJ
叉，新手训练怎么不去别的地方，附近MD还有Andrew Air Force base,为什么要到DCA附近来训练
很靠谱, 有几个疑问 直升飞机上三个驾驶员为啥都没注意到前方的客机? 客机的飞机尾巴都有三个灯啊 另外那个客机上不知道做何感想, 亲眼看见相撞 这种民军混用太可怕了 而且美国在这种事上本来就很马大哈
主要还是没钱修 没办法啊
对啊，水平很菜还在繁忙的民用机场边上夜视训练，白天怎么飞行练好了吗？
为什么太繁忙就遵守不了？客机在这个地方会低于200尺飞行吗？如果这个地方低于200尺只有军机在飞，军机自己协调不就完了。
啊那以后大佬专用就好，平民班机别飞那了。