Trump刚刚签字Laken Riley bill 生效,懂的来说说

辣妹子
楼主 (北美华人网)
如题,板上之前有讨论,那个时候还没通过。
流浪的小孩
Laken Riley 的爸爸
"I think it's being used politically to get those votes," Jason Riley said. "It makes me angry. I feel like, you know, they're just using my daughter’s name for that. And she was much better than that, and she should be raised up for the person that she is. She was an angel.”
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brookeyang
这种领半元的不会进来的。
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Chaohistory
回复 1楼 辣妹子 的帖子
The Laken Riley Act expands mass detention & threatens civil rights. It allows mandatory detention before conviction & fuels racial profiling. This isn’t about safety—it’s scapegoating.
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catcatdog
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-29 21:50
Laken Riley 的爸爸
"I think it's being used politically to get those votes," Jason Riley said. "It makes me angry. I feel like, you know, they're just using my daughter’s name for that. And she was much better than that, and she should be raised up for the person that she is. She was an angel.”

这个爸爸也是可怜 唉
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Chaohistory
回复 1楼 辣妹子 的帖子
再配合这个新闻看一下 the Laken Riley act 刚签。 Trump announces an executive order authorizing a 30,000 capacity migrant detention center in Guantanamo. 为何在Guantanamo? 远离美国大陆。法外之地,也没有媒体盯着。比建在本土集中营可怕多。
流浪的小孩
建集中营是可以把谁都扔进去吗?
今天看到的说法是, 很多没有身份的移民,如果仅仅是没有身份,不能算criminal。
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HelloWorld321
感觉好无助,这一天一天的,如果真想整你的话,这个法律对合法移民就是噩梦。不经审判,全凭一张嘴。
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kuh
非法入境 就是已经 break immigration law了
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rureal
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-29 21:50
Laken Riley 的爸爸
"I think it's being used politically to get those votes," Jason Riley said. "It makes me angry. I feel like, you know, they're just using my daughter’s name for that. And she was much better than that, and she should be raised up for the person that she is. She was an angel.”

这不是一年前说过的话吗?最近又出来说了一遍?
她们一家这么积极地投身政治运动,在各个场合发表感言举牌子,难道目的是不让这个名字被“used politically”?这和谁是不是天使有啥关系?这种毫无逻辑的感概,居然也被收录做名人名言一样到处抛洒。
流浪的小孩
kuh 发表于 2025-01-29 22:16
非法入境 就是已经 break immigration law了

In the United States, entering the country without permission from an immigration officer is a crime, but being in the country without legal documentation is not. 
Explanation Illegal entry: Entering the country without permission is a misdemeanor on the first offense, and a felony if the person has been deported and re-entered without permission.  Overstaying a visa: This is a civil violation that is handled by immigration court.  Other violations: Working without authorization, dropping out of school, or violating the conditions of a visa are also violations of immigration law.  Some say that the term "illegal alien" is misleading because it suggests that undocumented immigrants are criminals. However, undocumented immigrants who have not been convicted of a crime are not considered criminal aliens
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OLOAHA
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-29 21:50
Laken Riley 的爸爸
"I think it's being used politically to get those votes," Jason Riley said. "It makes me angry. I feel like, you know, they're just using my daughter’s name for that. And she was much better than that, and she should be raised up for the person that she is. She was an angel.”

这是去年三月的报道,你怎么不把上下文补全?女孩他爸是支持Trump的,支持加强边境安全 But in reaction to what Biden said, Jason Riley feels overwhelmed over how politicized the circumstances surrounding his daughter's death have become. "I think it's being used politically to get those votes," Jason Riley said. "It makes me angry. I feel like, you know, they're just using my daughter’s name for that. And she was much better than that, and she should be raised up for the person that she is. She was an angel.” Jason Riley said he does support former President Donald Trump and that while he prefers his daughter's death "not be so political," it has opened up necessary discussions about how best to secure the southern border and help women, including those who are victims of human trafficking.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/laken-riley-dad-today-interview-rcna143742
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bluecrab
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-29 22:13
建集中营是可以把谁都扔进去吗?
今天看到的说法是, 很多没有身份的移民,如果仅仅是没有身份,不能算criminal。

白宫发言人已经明确说了非法移民本身就是犯法
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goldfish
不然怎么fake news呢?断章取义。CNN刚lost defamation case,活该
简单
回复 8楼 HelloWorld321 的帖子
不是对非法移民么?怎么影响合法移民的?
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Mediterranean
关键这么多民主党跪了。当年拜登、奥巴马那么landslide 赢,也没见共和党这么跪过,都坚决不配合呢
流浪的小孩
bluecrab 发表于 2025-01-30 00:36
白宫发言人已经明确说了非法移民本身就是犯法

白宫发言人,她对法律没有解释权
她说,trump说什么,什么就是法律。 there is LAW AND ORDER IN THIS COUNTY, NOT A KING.
第三只熊猫
这个法律最重要的问题是,到处都说是illegal immigrants。但是法律里却没有。 原文是这样的: To require the Secretary of Homeland Security to take into custody aliens who have been charged in the United States with theft, and for other purposes. 法律修改了原来的Immigration and Nationality Act. 原文是Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1226(c)) is amended。 而Immigration and Nationality Act里定义的alien是The term "alien" means any person not a citizen or national of the United States. (USC 1101: Definitions)
所以实际上针对任何非公民(包括绿卡)。只要被指控theft related crime,即使没有定罪,可以无限期拘押。
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nj_guy
虽然我反对床铺的很多政策,但针对非法移民,特别是有犯罪记录的非法移民,我支持。
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star1991
竟然过了,senate 民主党参议员也投赞成票?看来在非移问题上,民主党也在转变,以后我也可以考虑投民主党了
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bigbright
回复 7楼 流浪的小孩 的帖子
新的新闻发言人说非法移民破坏了移民法就是criminal
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fxiyz
mabaole 发表于 2025-01-30 07:55
最基本的常识,一直以来,全世界都是这样的规则:别非法进入别国,不然设个边界干嘛,为此死了那么多人。
在美国做了贼进入了国界,政府不作为,在座位上睡着了,没有按时抓贼,贼都觉得是合法了,要拉合法的一切叫冤了。

问题是在过去几十年里面,非法移民承担了大量的底层无人干的工作,美国小业主和家庭都从中大量获利。现在就摆出肃清的架势,社会各阶层都无法接受。会关注这件事在未来的走势。
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iheartglass
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-29 22:13
建集中营是可以把谁都扔进去吗?
今天看到的说法是, 很多没有身份的移民,如果仅仅是没有身份,不能算criminal。

没身份入境 不就是犯法了? 为什么不算criminal? 建个集中营起码震慑一下
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tshuanbanmj
流浪的小孩 发表于 2025-01-30 07:30
白宫发言人,她对法律没有解释权
她说,trump说什么,什么就是法律。 there is LAW AND ORDER IN THIS COUNTY, NOT A KING.

那请问移民法是厕纸吗?
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ponnytail
这个集中营肯定不是只给非移的
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teabucket
iheartglass 发表于 2025-01-30 10:13
没身份入境 不就是犯法了? 为什么不算criminal? 建个集中营起码震慑一下

First time 算civic violation , 这个和 speeding 同级别。 比civic violation 再严重一个级别才算criminals
你可以说这个法律不合理,但是按照目前的法律定义,确实不算。 白宫发言人和记者狡辩说所有的undocumented immigrants 都是criminals 要么是她真不懂这里的定义,要么就是别有用心、胡搅蛮缠