X上有H1三抽不中印度工程师被逼回国,在揭批H1 Fraud

索楠嘉措
楼主 (北美华人网)
Pratik Wagh | Coinchange.io @itspratikwagh
https://x.com/itspratikwagh/status/1872741116258468152
H1B FRAUD EXPOSED
My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot  and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair.
I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials Science and Engineering,and upon graduation in 2014 i applied to @SpaceX  only to get rejected after two rounds of interview on the basis of nationality. They really wanted me because of my skills but there are some regulations called ITAR which prevents SpaceX from hiring foreign nationals. UNDERSTANDABLE.
Then I went on to work for Oil and Gas companies who would file for my H1B. I had 3 attempt to win the lottery (YES it is a damn lottery!). Guess what, i never won it. Then the manager from SpaceX who really wanted to hire me, had started a non-profit by 2016 and wanted to file for my H1B. Twice. That’s when i learned, non-profits don’t have a lottery. They are evaluated on case by case basis. Lucky me right? WRONG. The non-profit was too small for them to sponsor H1Bs. Besides the govt funds should create employment for citizens and not foreigners. UNDERSTANDABLE.
So after 5 failed attempts, i decided to move back to India. Meanwhile my friends/acquaintances had already won the lottery and were working in the US.
HOW DID THEY WIN THE LOTTERY AND I DIDN’T?
Enter: Consultancy firms.
These are run by unknown Indians, from their kitchens and basements, selling H1Bs. What???? Yes, they fabricate and spice up your resume, so you can qualify for these high skilled jobs, they interview on your behalf, and land you the job. In return they take 30% of your salary Y1, 20% Y2 etc.
Yeah but how do they win the lottery? Clearly that can’t be rigged? Yes it can. They put in 3-5 applications PER candidate so that your probability of getting picked increases. WOW. 🤯
Then Pratik, why didn’t you do it? Because it means you need to work for whatever employer gets picked in the lottery. I didn’t want to JUST WORK in US, I wanted to work and contribute to the right employers. I would rather be in India and start by own company than work in the US with a fake resume.
The crazy thing is my acquaintances who couldn’t actually do the work because they were faking resumes, ended up outsourcing their work remotely to folks in India. WOW 🤯
Objectively I was more deserving of the H1B than these losers who faked resume, rigged the lottery, gave away part of their salary to the consultancy and part to actual folks in india doing their job remotely, and when they didn’t have enough $ to survive in the US, they worked as pizza delivery guys for cash.
No Indian can argue that this is the utmost form of cheating and taking jobs from Americans. And taking jobs from other more deserving Indians who didn’t play this game.
To close, I am not generalizing that this is rampant among all H1B holders. There are many who won the lottery and deserve it. But i think the rigging is more common than most know. I know at least 3 who have done it.
Unfortunately my reach is limited on X so this might get lost. But hopefully it gets noticed. I will be here if you are interested in more details. @VivekGRamaswamy  @elonmusk  @DOGE  @LauraLoomer
H1B FRAUD EXPOSED

My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair.

I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials… — Pratik Wagh 🛡️| Coinchange.io (@itspratikwagh) December 27, 2024

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brookhaven
所以是印度人自己出来揭发印度人了?
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mindstorm
这是印度吹哨人啊!!英雄一个。
其实高层,特别总统真想控制,是特别容易的,本质上,是看他们不愿意控制。H1可以增加至完全无上限,但就要有新规定,来控制公司印度人作假,海量申请人,比如
1. 公司H1人数CAP, 比如一个公司最多给300个名额 2. 公司里的H1外籍员工比例CAP.,比如最多可以占10%的比例,想要100个外国人工作, 就要有1000人规模。 3 国别也要象公司一样有CAP, 一个国家最多可以有多少个H1, 或者最多多少比例,比如6%或者1000人。 4.防止多重提交:申请的直接2000块不退钱,成功的再交2000块。 凡是提交人姓名+生日如果重复的,直接取消资格。
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qas168888
brookhaven 发表于 2024-12-29 00:20
所以是印度人自己出来揭发印度人了?

fraud就是fraud,难道因为自己是印度人就该无脑包庇那些作假的人吗
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alloccupied
这也是我讨厌有些印度H1B移民的原因,因为这部分人就是靠作假来取得H1B 然后再取得绿卡的。
真正货真价实靠自己的highly skilled 移民,我觉得美国任何时候都应该欢迎。关键的是要打击这些靠作假拿到H1B 这些人,堵住这波漏洞。
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YTD1Smore
呵呵团结的印度人终于也分裂了。为了某种cause,插自己同胞的刀子,毫不留情,有理有据,厉害。以后印度人被人人喊打的时候,额头贴字,Mercy!Indian with Integrity。
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Fhb
哇,本土阿三里竟然也有不愿最假,志存高远,还检举揭发的有志之士
买买提闲人
Fhb 发表于 2024-12-29 00:37
哇,本土阿三里竟然也有不愿最假,志存高远,还检举揭发的有志之士

先上车的想关车门。上不了车的想拉人下车。这两种心态都常见,未必是因为integrity 和正义cause
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handylady
mindstorm 发表于 2024-12-29 00:23
其实想控制很容易,就是看他们要不要控制。H1可以增加至完全无上限,但就要有新规定,来控制公司印度人作假,海量申请人,比如
1. 公司H1人数CAP, 比如一个公司最多给300个名额 2. 公司里的H1外籍员工比例CAP.,比如最多可以占10%的比例,想要100个外国人工作, 就要有1000人规模。 3 国别也要象公司一样有CAP, 一个国家最多可以有多少个H1, 或者最多多少比例,比如6%或者1000人。 4.防止多重提交:申请的直接2000块不退钱,成功的再交2000块。 凡是提交人姓名+生日如果重复的,直接取消资格。

很好奇绿卡每个国家都有quota,为啥h1b没有
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mindstorm
handylady 发表于 2024-12-29 00:44
很好奇绿卡每个国家都有quota,为啥h1b没有

因为这个是总统说了算?
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pufeng
handylady 发表于 2024-12-29 00:44
很好奇绿卡每个国家都有quota,为啥h1b没有

不是每个国家名额有限制 是不能超过总数的7% 中国印度菲律宾申请的人多 所以排期长
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ALCHEM
Every one knows but uscis?
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hijklmn
ALCHEM 发表于 2024-12-29 01:20
Every one knows but uscis?

USCIS知道啊,也出台了一些规定,但是没用,最多就是把之前印度人一人递二十几份申请变成三五份。。。
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bye2020
动动手指给他点个赞呗,把热度引到这个话题来,利人利己。
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chengshu11
回复 5楼 alloccupied 的帖子
希望总一天正义会回来! 那些走线进来的(来了8个月在洛杉矶郊外做铁板烧师傅) 也是最近拿了工卡, 开始美国打工生涯! 他也没有花几万在美国拿学位 或准备一大沓材料去申请 H1B, 被拒还得补充材料!世界总会要有公平在!!
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Iwkhx
印度人才是美国人失去工作的原因。所谓中国人抢美国人工作是政客的噱头,反正骂中国即安全又吸引眼球。H1B是小头,外包是大头。IT整组整组在印度,客服基本都是咖喱味了。这些都触动了中下层利益。上面的资本虽然一直遮盖,但早晚保不住火。
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mindstorm
Iwkhx 发表于 2024-12-29 09:23
印度人才是美国人失去工作的原因。所谓中国人抢美国人工作是政客的噱头,反正骂中国即安全又吸引眼球。H1B是小头,外包是大头。IT整组整组在印度,客服基本都是咖喱味了。这些都触动了中下层利益。上面的资本虽然一直遮盖,但早晚保不住火。

客服这种打电话的话外包,才是美国底层的工作。这些不应当外包。CS毕业生都找不到工作了还外包,真的没话可说了。是印度人抢美国人的工作
千渔千寻
大家要换个思路来看,就知道为什么选川普是对我们美华生存最有利
https://huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=3039637


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yangff
规定有美国学位的才能抽h1b就可以
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Lamajia
不要细分。不要细分。华人人数多,细分的背锅侠华人肯定要算一个的。
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chickenrib
索楠嘉措 发表于 2024-12-29 00:18
Pratik Wagh | Coinchange.io @itspratikwagh
https://x.com/itspratikwagh/status/1872741116258468152
H1B FRAUD EXPOSED
My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot  and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair.
I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials Science and Engineering,and upon graduation in 2014 i applied to @SpaceX  only to get rejected after two rounds of interview on the basis of nationality. They really wanted me because of my skills but there are some regulations called ITAR which prevents SpaceX from hiring foreign nationals. UNDERSTANDABLE.
Then I went on to work for Oil and Gas companies who would file for my H1B. I had 3 attempt to win the lottery (YES it is a damn lottery!). Guess what, i never won it. Then the manager from SpaceX who really wanted to hire me, had started a non-profit by 2016 and wanted to file for my H1B. Twice. That’s when i learned, non-profits don’t have a lottery. They are evaluated on case by case basis. Lucky me right? WRONG. The non-profit was too small for them to sponsor H1Bs. Besides the govt funds should create employment for citizens and not foreigners. UNDERSTANDABLE.
So after 5 failed attempts, i decided to move back to India. Meanwhile my friends/acquaintances had already won the lottery and were working in the US.
HOW DID THEY WIN THE LOTTERY AND I DIDN’T?
Enter: Consultancy firms.
These are run by unknown Indians, from their kitchens and basements, selling H1Bs. What???? Yes, they fabricate and spice up your resume, so you can qualify for these high skilled jobs, they interview on your behalf, and land you the job. In return they take 30% of your salary Y1, 20% Y2 etc.
Yeah but how do they win the lottery? Clearly that can’t be rigged? Yes it can. They put in 3-5 applications PER candidate so that your probability of getting picked increases. WOW. 🤯
Then Pratik, why didn’t you do it? Because it means you need to work for whatever employer gets picked in the lottery. I didn’t want to JUST WORK in US, I wanted to work and contribute to the right employers. I would rather be in India and start by own company than work in the US with a fake resume.
The crazy thing is my acquaintances who couldn’t actually do the work because they were faking resumes, ended up outsourcing their work remotely to folks in India. WOW 🤯
Objectively I was more deserving of the H1B than these losers who faked resume, rigged the lottery, gave away part of their salary to the consultancy and part to actual folks in india doing their job remotely, and when they didn’t have enough $ to survive in the US, they worked as pizza delivery guys for cash.
No Indian can argue that this is the utmost form of cheating and taking jobs from Americans. And taking jobs from other more deserving Indians who didn’t play this game.
To close, I am not generalizing that this is rampant among all H1B holders. There are many who won the lottery and deserve it. But i think the rigging is more common than most know. I know at least 3 who have done it.
Unfortunately my reach is limited on X so this might get lost. But hopefully it gets noticed. I will be here if you are interested in more details. @VivekGRamaswamy  @elonmusk  @DOGE  @LauraLoomer
H1B FRAUD EXPOSED

My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair.

I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials… — Pratik Wagh 🛡️| Coinchange.io (@itspratikwagh) December 27, 2024

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烙印自己也受不了了,西方世界重用烙印的思维,真的没法理解……
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adorp
chickenrib 发表于 2024-12-29 12:52
烙印自己也受不了了,西方世界重用烙印的思维,真的没法理解……

是犹太人,华尔街的犹太巨富发现印度阿三是世界上最会舔的奴才(拜英国殖民印度300年所赐),所以 犹-印 联合形成了打击包括白人,华人等所有种族的坚固架构:犹太主子 >> 印度奴才当管家 >>下面其余各的种族都是它们”会说话的工具“ - 奴隶!
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Baguette
Fhb 发表于 2024-12-29 00:37
哇,本土阿三里竟然也有不愿最假,志存高远,还检举揭发的有志之士

我身边也有这样的,整天被其他印度人排挤说他not being an Indian
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me3me3
adorp 发表于 2024-12-29 13:20
是犹太人,华尔街的犹太巨富发现印度阿三是世界上最会舔的奴才(拜英国殖民印度300年所赐),所以 犹-印 联合形成了打击包括白人,华人等所有种族的坚固架构:犹太主子 >> 印度奴才当管家 >>下面其余各的种族都是它们”会说话的工具“ - 奴隶!


真假不知,的确有人这么认为:
https://x.com/TheRISEofROD/status/1873268455497150748
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ganymede
YTD1Smore 发表于 2024-12-29 00:37
呵呵团结的印度人终于也分裂了。为了某种cause,插自己同胞的刀子,毫不留情,有理有据,厉害。以后印度人被人人喊打的时候,额头贴字,Mercy!Indian with Integrity。

印度人也不是统一民族。他们也是帮族人,排挤其他族人。
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tomchu1990
这种硬度人玩的把戏, 资本家们也都知道,对他们赚钱有利, 就不会限制。
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brookhaven
qas168888 发表于 2024-12-29 00:26
fraud就是fraud,难道因为自己是印度人就该无脑包庇那些作假的人吗

没有啊, 只是觉得真的不常见。
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happymc
应该搞一次清算,把这些作假的签证绿卡全部取消。移民局这么厉害,应该不难查吧?
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Dailv22
mmkkm
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Texcat
其实印度留学一般是真的,假的都是ICC搬运来的。 重点审查,倒查十年。
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welkin25
hijklmn 发表于 2024-12-29 01:21
USCIS知道啊,也出台了一些规定,但是没用,最多就是把之前印度人一人递二十几份申请变成三五份。。。

这个一点都不理解,用ssn dedup有那么难吗,感觉美国政府机构真是无比臃肿低效
小红马甲
绿卡有根据出生地的名额限制,而H1B只有根据学历的名额限制,没有根据出生地或者国籍的比例限制,所以ICC造假实际上是排挤了其他国家的H1B申请人,也包括了qualified 印度申请人。
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MoonRiverMe
活该,狗咬狗了,都咬死了才好,从来就没见着过半个文明点的烙印。