什么是Free Market?

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lmmdaisy
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带节奏的、带任务的、五毛等,请走开。还北美华人圈清净。
我先抛砖引玉一下下,仅自学过一点经济,只有点皮毛知识。我也只能问些泛而简单的问题: 1、就像讲个人Freedom 一样是有前提条件并不是说你想干啥就干啥。Free market 的前提或是先决条件是什么? 2、Free market 的优劣、尤其是有没有什么劣根性? 理解了劣根性才会避免把好东西搞坏。 3、中国free market的实施:那些比较好的方面,那些不好的方面?高屋建瓴的回答即可。 4、美国Free market 的实施:那些比较好的方面,那些不好的方面?高屋建瓴的回答即可
再次声明:懂经济的来回答哈。 那些“我觉得”之类的回答就算了。大家都有“觉得”这些认知,还因为信息茧房的问题觉得很不一样。希望此帖能有清新空气,帮助我们普通群众涨见识知识,走出哪怕一点点信息茧房。感谢!
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ganymede
自由市场是和垄断相对应的。自由市场的参与者都是平等的,各个卖家之间自由竞争。现实世界中,纯粹的自由市场是很少的。关税,补贴,市场准入,政府对某个市场的很多规范政策呀,都是违背自由市场的(但并不是说就是不好的)。卖方之间的竞争也会导致个别卖家做大,这些卖家为了利润会用各种手段扭曲自由市场,最后一家独大就会导致垄断。
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SAT
很多啦,没时间都写。先开个头吧。Free market的精髓来自于mutual consent without undue coercion. 也就是买卖双方都出于自愿,而没有来自一方或政府的胁迫。Libertarians call it the non-aggression principle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
Freedom不是你想干啥就干啥。Freedom必须建立在别人不受侵害的基础上,所谓The freedom of your fist stops at the tip of my nose.
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lmmdaisy
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喜欢这个说法: 简明扼要的说出来精髓。你拳头的自由建立在他必在我鼻头前停住。
嗯嗯,做不到这个就是丛林社会了。
Free market 的“度”在哪里?
不困不睡
我的理解是政府不干预的market 比如股市要崩,国家队带着钱入场救市,就不是free market 楼主可以当我没说,等经济专家来讲,哈哈哈哈
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poppyjasper
有钱,有律师,就有Free Market
否则都是待宰羔羊
人类历史,有没有文字记载,都是这样的
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dancingpig2019
free market最本质的一点就是它是由supply and demand决定的,而非政府干预或计划。free market的典型对立面就是中国改革开放前的百分百中央政府的计划经济了。
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fridec2
Free To Choose: The Original 1980 TV Series
In these programs, which first aired on January 11, 1980, Dr. Friedman focuses on basic principles. How do markets work? Why has socialism failed? Can government help economic development? The 1980 version consists of 10 one-hour programs.
https://www.freetochoosenetwork.org/programs/free_to_choose/index_80.php

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SAT
fridec2 发表于 2024-12-07 17:10
Free To Choose: The Original 1980 TV Series
In these programs, which first aired on January 11, 1980, Dr. Friedman focuses on basic principles. How do markets work? Why has socialism failed? Can government help economic development? The 1980 version consists of 10 one-hour programs.
https://www.freetochoosenetwork.org/programs/free_to_choose/index_80.php

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Ironically, Friedman was the brain behind the tax withholding system in the United States: i.e. the government takes a piece off every one of your paycheck BEFORE you even see a penny of it. Take a look at your tax form, how would it change your political leaning if you have to write ONE BIG CHECK each year on April 15th? Or better yet, if Americans have to write those big tax payment checks the week BEFORE election day?
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facet
简单说就是商品价格由供需关系决定,市场参与者可以自由出入,即使寡头的出现或者商品的天价也是市场决定 这里商品和市场的定义都是广义的,比如一个国家的货币,多个国家货币之间的的汇率都是商品价格
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ALCHEM
fridec2 发表于 2024-12-07 17:10
Free To Choose: The Original 1980 TV Series
In these programs, which first aired on January 11, 1980, Dr. Friedman focuses on basic principles. How do markets work? Why has socialism failed? Can government help economic development? The 1980 version consists of 10 one-hour programs.
https://www.freetochoosenetwork.org/programs/free_to_choose/index_80.php

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