你说的这份工作用的是一种alternate workweek schedule,这在雇佣时就说清楚的。而楼主的工作是常规的work week schedule,也就是5/8 schedule。 In California, employees can work up to 10 hours per day without earning overtime if they work a 4/10 schedule, as long as their total weekly hours don't exceed 40. Yes, California allows employees to work four 10-hour days as part of an alternative workweek schedule (AWS) without triggering daily overtime: Explanation California's overtime law defines overtime as any hours worked over 8 hours in a day or 40 hours in a week. However, the AWS exception allows employees to work longer days in exchange for a shorter workweek.
得看楼主在哪个州 Federal standard: Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), overtime is calculated based on a workweek, which is a seven-day period. State variations: Some states like California may require overtime calculations on a daily basis, meaning hours worked beyond a certain limit in a single day are considered overtime. Workweek start: Employers can choose any day of the week to start their workweek, but it must be consistent.
金银岛 发表于 2024-12-07 11:19 得看楼主在哪个州 Federal standard: Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), overtime is calculated based on a workweek, which is a seven-day period. State variations: Some states like California may require overtime calculations on a daily basis, meaning hours worked beyond a certain limit in a single day are considered overtime. Workweek start: Employers can choose any day of the week to start their workweek, but it must be consistent.
我在dir.ca.gov上看见这个Q&A, 根本不是楼主说的只看当天不看一周40小时的算法 7.Q.Last week I worked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday, eight hours each day. I was out ill all day Friday. For the workweek I was paid 48 hours at my regular hourly rate. Am I entitled to eight hours of overtime pay?A. No, you are not entitled to any overtime pay. Overtime is calculated based on hours actually worked, and you worked only 40 hours during the workweek. Another example of where you get paid your regular wages but the time is not counted towards overtime is if you get paid for a holiday but do not work that day. In such a case, the time upon which the holiday pay is based does not count as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime because no work was performed.
我在dir.ca.gov上看见这个Q&A, 根本不是楼主说的只看当天不看一周40小时的算法 7.Q.Last week I worked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday, eight hours each day. I was out ill all day Friday. For the workweek I was paid 48 hours at my regular hourly rate. Am I entitled to eight hours of overtime pay?A. No, you are not entitled to any overtime pay. Overtime is calculated based on hours actually worked, and you worked only 40 hours during the workweek. Another example of where you get paid your regular wages but the time is not counted towards overtime is if you get paid for a holiday but do not work that day. In such a case, the time upon which the holiday pay is based does not count as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime because no work was performed. 心跳的希望 发表于 2024-12-07 16:38
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Hourly不足40小时/周,就不算加班,要先补足
假如你和楼主做的是类似等级的工作(即不适用加州加班费法规里列出的那些例外情况),如果你这么要求而经理同意了,那他必须付你加班费,不然就违法了。
你说的这份工作用的是一种alternate workweek schedule,这在雇佣时就说清楚的。而楼主的工作是常规的work week schedule,也就是5/8 schedule。
In California, employees can work up to 10 hours per day without earning overtime if they work a 4/10 schedule, as long as their total weekly hours don't exceed 40.
Yes, California allows employees to work four 10-hour days as part of an alternative workweek schedule (AWS) without triggering daily overtime: Explanation California's overtime law defines overtime as any hours worked over 8 hours in a day or 40 hours in a week. However, the AWS exception allows employees to work longer days in exchange for a shorter workweek.
楼主过分了吧。老板允许你额外请no paid leave处理私事算是帮忙了,你make up这些时间不是应该的吗。 就算不合法也不至于想搞公司吧。
年薪制吧?
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楼主是合同工吗?如果不是,加多少班也不算。
我的理解是你即使有pto,老板也可以不让用。有overtime,你的老板可能会被问责。所以他让你中间办私事,回来补上时间,感觉处理挺不错的。做为旁观者,觉得你的感受有点情绪化
你是否必须上40个小时的班,什么时候算加班,这个不会违法,按理公司应该有规定。
否则的话,那我可以不可以每周只上一天的班,四天不来,然后hourly pay一天就好。然后也不需要补足。有太多的人需要这种工作,需要薪金收入来跨过social security,或者Roth IRA的门槛,联邦和州里好多福利包括医疗保险,会和工作的基本收入挂钩的。
公司如果HR policy,老板连对下属员工工作hours都没有决策权,那这公司运营估计也不太容易。因为就算麦当劳,里面的小时工都不可能想来就来,想走就走。
建议还是查阅一下公司的相关规定,以防万一。不过看起来你对这份工作并没有特别看重,即使老板有意见,你可能也不会太在意。那完全可以按照你的想法来处理,最多离职。
但是hourly pay的工作可能确实不同,做一小时和尚撞一小时钟,你这次情况,legally,估计她不能要求你其它日子里加班半小时,但是她应该有权拒绝你请额外半天PTO的请求。所以应该理解成一个workaround。如果你非要较真,就自己查清楚是不是她可以拒绝你的每周半天额外PTO的请求,然后再决定是否接受她的建议。
楼主既然是hourly paid, 那你每周请两个半小时假,是uppaid leave吗? 如果是,那你就没必要再每天多工作半小时; 如果不是,那你就需要每天多工作半小时。
"我也没打算要求pay这个请假的时间,一共加起来也就一个工作日的时间,能耽误啥?!"
看起来实际上是 pay 了的。
老实跟你说不算。美国加班的定义就是一周超过40小时的算加班。
确实可以无薪休假,但是搞多了,被开了也不能怨谁,对不?
楼主还没加班就准备取证了,再有个流氓律师帮她打官司,老板会被逼的和解的
hourly pay的话确实老板过分了。证据都保留下来,等找到下家或者被他们fire之后恶心他们一把。还真有实打实坐满8小时的工作啊?楼主干的蓝领装卸工?
我混了这么多年,一般1-2个小时干完全天的活,然后1-2小时“开会”,其他时间摸鱼。我认为全美国办公室工作都这样。
那一天,如果用了PTO 三小时,再工作了5小时。那这一天就是算了8小时了,超过8小时后的工作时间需要overtime pay才合法。
得看楼主在哪个州
Federal standard: Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), overtime is calculated based on a workweek, which is a seven-day period. State variations: Some states like California may require overtime calculations on a daily basis, meaning hours worked beyond a certain limit in a single day are considered overtime. Workweek start: Employers can choose any day of the week to start their workweek, but it must be consistent.
楼主你真是轴啊。 你应该沟通的是,她让你多工作的半小时需要pay you because you get paid by the hour.而不是是不是加班。就算是加班又咋样呢?加班也是合法的啊。不pay你是不合法的。
美国的overtime paid还有定义的。不是反复跟你说了是over 40 hours a week吗你去网上查查吧。你知道美国nurse shift 都是12小时,每周3 shifts no overtime pay.
Wow!你家加州请保姆的都是勇人啊。
加州不是我家的, 也不生活在加州. 我只是point out the fact
对的。我说错了。我的意思是加州请保姆的都是勇士。
哇,加州这么不同。。。
但是楼主为啥这么轴?PTO没了老板可以不批你假。。。
有什么好奇怪的 好几个银行的加州员工 10年前每天工作超出了8小时 因为lunch hour也抽空帮忙工作了没有给足 而file了很多class action 全都赢了 赔了很多钱
后来听说是只要打卡超过8小时 要选择overtime pay 还要签一个waiver 反正就是不会告的意思吧我猜 已经很久远了 也不知道我有没有记错
你不要去搞这个事 对你带不来任何好处
加班从来不是按8小时算的呀,都是按一周40小时算的
除非你是daily算钱的合同工啊
要是我早就主动要求每天多干活,而不是少挣钱啊
除非你以后不需要这个upaid leave了, 否则后面他完全可以不让你每周请假, 直接让你走人
你到底需要工作吗? 先想清楚了再考虑要不要搞事情
他们回答问题都是免费的, 而且他们的答案肯定比网友的更靠谱
客观的说,你这么斤斤计较,最好找个其它工作好了。
您没搞清楚。每天超过8小时等于每周超过40小时。那全国都是这样的。没啥好奇怪的。 我们讨论的是几天超过8小时,每周没超过40小时的情况。 加州还真是神奇。不知道加州的护士是怎么排班的。
Lz看下来的确轴
Leave without pay 是要老板批的,没有规定老板一定要批。是要协商的,协商的结果不就是LZ把这半小时补上吗。他还不乐意。位置搞错了。 假如大家都能随便休leave without pay, 谁给你留着位置。所以不要当作理所应当
你去查查规定,leave without pay 不是你想休就休,要老板看工作强度情况批准的。他批准的条件就是你补上这半小时,应该是合理合规。 否则大家都不拿钱休假了,活干不完怎么办。还要给你留着位置不能招新人。 LZ为啥这么有底气呢。
那她干脆不批你那半天无薪假好了。应该是合法合规的。你能怎么办?辞职吗。 本来关系好才容易办事包括请假。你这么咄咄逼人只能对自己不利
就是啊。LZ为啥觉得理所当然。
你老板已经对你很好了,你自己不知道进退,还觉得老板做的不好,这样下去你在哪都很难舒心的。公司unpaid leave 一般都是有规定的,让你make up时间对你来说已经是最好的option了,不要得寸进尺,要见好就收啊
楼主PTO用完说明经常请假,然后假期用完每周还要请两个半小时,我理解每个人都有急事什么的,可是用完PTO每周必须请假已经非常过分的要求了!!!楼主的领导不但非常开明的答应你的无理要求,还提出解决方法每天多干半个小时维持正常工作。楼主不但不领情还觉的领导过分? 除非楼主不在乎这个工作,可以随便换,那就斗吧
现在也有。 而且这15分钟必须不被工作干扰。
加州是当日值班超过8小时就算ot……每周超过40小时也算。
你没有PTO了,老板如果也没扣你那off的时间的工资。那多上半小时也就是相当于每天晚去半小时然后晚半小时上班,每日时间还是total 8hours就算合理。否则不行
我明白lz的诉求了。 lz是每周有一天会off 2.5hours,但是没有PTO了。 老板算成每日多做工半小时来make up这个2.5 小时。 这样周一到周四8.5hours,周五6hours。 在加州,这个行不通的,法律上。虽然老板很通融。 周一到周四那多的半小时必须算 OT, 法律上。 如果没有OT pay给最后半小时,HR也不会同意的,他们不想惹官司。 老板这么说估计不知道加州这个法律。就像我之前公司总部在中西部,然后年底把加州员工没用的PTO全抹光了,最后被搞到加州labor department。
加州这么好!
Leave without pay也是要批准的,反正我们公司是这样。不是说不要pay就可以想去就去不想去就不去
那大家都周一周四多做俩小时好了,然后星期五请无薪假, 这样比正常一周五天8小时要多挣钱哦
政府是傻子还是老板们都是傻子? 还是员工们都太善良,不会去故意挣这笔钱
7.Q.Last week I worked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday, eight hours each day. I was out ill all day Friday. For the workweek I was paid 48 hours at my regular hourly rate. Am I entitled to eight hours of overtime pay? A. No, you are not entitled to any overtime pay. Overtime is calculated based on hours actually worked, and you worked only 40 hours during the workweek. Another example of where you get paid your regular wages but the time is not counted towards overtime is if you get paid for a holiday but do not work that day. In such a case, the time upon which the holiday pay is based does not count as hours worked for purposes of determining overtime because no work was performed.
每天多做要事先批准了才行。
这个每天都没有超过8小时,他那一周工作了5天,每天8小时,一共40小时,但是他拿到了48小时的regular pay,所以应该是周六weekend work给他算了OT pay。和楼主说的scenario不是完全一样。我记得我们公司在加州的确实这个OT是和每天工作时长挂钩的。
加州是每周工作时间超过三十小时雇主必须提供full time employee benefit。
加州法律这么规定的,怼我们这些韭菜有个鬼用。 我之前那份工作就是一周三天,每天10小时但是pay是11小时hourly rate,外加full time employee status和benefits
如果我需要加班,有主动和被要求。第四天也是10hours但是拿11hours rate 工资。如果第五天再有10小时,那第五天10hours给15hours pay。这种情况需要特批,老板不想付ot pay。但是实在没人上班老板求着去,除了这些ot pay还有gift card或者额外多2-3hours pay,甚至全天 double pay
你是exempt 还是non exempt? Contractor你对,full time 你老板对。
lz不是exempt的。她前面说了拿hourly rate
机场停车楼主第二天就掉链子了,被黑大妈打了没敢还手
所以HR肯定不会同意。而且lz是需要打卡工时的,HR一看就知道有OT了。HR首先就会提问lz怎么加班了,lz只能说老板要求的。之后就是老板和HR的事情了。公司为了免除潜在官司,必须ot pay。
在加州拿年薪制的情况下,这确实不是个事情。
business owner反而很多都善待员工,因为要真正考虑赚钱。中间层很多喜欢搞事因为反正浪掉的不是他们自己的钱,所以他们喜欢用公司资源树立他们自己权威或者发泄他们自己戾气。