德国的北溪石油管道被炸得新闻似乎还在眼前,但是正因为北溪被炸了, 俄罗斯才正式转身跟中国计划 中国-西伯利亚石油管道,神奇得是,我还以为还在谈判,但是根据最新得新闻,已经修好了。 就像马斯克说得,最近几年加州花了70亿美元,讨论修建10公里得高铁,而且大部分钱都花在“讨论上”,然后修了10公里得水泥路。 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/china-completes-full-pipeline-for-power-of-siberia-gas/ar-AA1v6Jj2?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ceff4b8e70b749daaf0f51547c19984a&ei=50#comments SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China has built and connected the 5,111-km (3,175-mile) Power-of-Siberia pipeline to deliver gas from Russia''''''''s Siberian fields to users as far as the financial hub of Shanghai, Chinese state media reported on Monday. The completion will allow the project to reach its full annual designed capacity of 38 billion cubic meters in 2025, roughly 9% of China''''''''s consumption this year. Chinese builders added the last section, a 167-km line from Nantong to Luzhi in the eastern province of Jiangsu, around mid-November, completing the massive project seven months ahead of schedule. The pipeline has a diameter of 1.422 meters, allowable pressure of 12 megapascals and the largest transport capacity for a single pipeline, state television said. The Power-of-Siberia pipeline began pumping gas in late 2019, and Russia has been ramping up supplies since. It is slated to deliver 38 bcm in 2025, state media said, a level 26% higher than the 30 bcm estimated by analysts for 2024. Citing an official with state-run PipeChina, the report said Power-of-Siberia is currently sending 110 million cubic meters of gas a day, versus 15 million cubic meters when the project first came on stream five years ago.
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minqidev 发表于 2024-12-02 04:52 德国的北溪石油管道被炸得新闻似乎还在眼前,但是正因为北溪被炸了, 俄罗斯才正式转身跟中国计划 中国-西伯利亚石油管道,神奇得是,我还以为还在谈判,但是根据最新得新闻,已经修好了。 就像马斯克说得,最近几年加州花了70亿美元,讨论修建10公里得高铁,而且大部分钱都花在“讨论上”,然后修了10公里得水泥路。 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/china-completes-full-pipeline-for-power-of-siberia-gas/ar-AA1v6Jj2?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ceff4b8e70b749daaf0f51547c19984a&ei=50#comments SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China has built and connected the 5,111-km (3,175-mile) Power-of-Siberia pipeline to deliver gas from Russia''''''''s Siberian fields to users as far as the financial hub of Shanghai, Chinese state media reported on Monday. The completion will allow the project to reach its full annual designed capacity of 38 billion cubic meters in 2025, roughly 9% of China''''''''s consumption this year. Chinese builders added the last section, a 167-km line from Nantong to Luzhi in the eastern province of Jiangsu, around mid-November, completing the massive project seven months ahead of schedule. The pipeline has a diameter of 1.422 meters, allowable pressure of 12 megapascals and the largest transport capacity for a single pipeline, state television said. The Power-of-Siberia pipeline began pumping gas in late 2019, and Russia has been ramping up supplies since. It is slated to deliver 38 bcm in 2025, state media said, a level 26% higher than the 30 bcm estimated by analysts for 2024. Citing an official with state-run PipeChina, the report said Power-of-Siberia is currently sending 110 million cubic meters of gas a day, versus 15 million cubic meters when the project first came on stream five years ago.
就像马斯克说得,最近几年加州花了70亿美元,讨论修建10公里得高铁,而且大部分钱都花在“讨论上”,然后修了10公里得水泥路。
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/china-completes-full-pipeline-for-power-of-siberia-gas/ar-AA1v6Jj2?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ceff4b8e70b749daaf0f51547c19984a&ei=50#comments
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China has built and connected the 5,111-km (3,175-mile) Power-of-Siberia pipeline to deliver gas from Russia''''''''s Siberian fields to users as far as the financial hub of Shanghai, Chinese state media reported on Monday. The completion will allow the project to reach its full annual designed capacity of 38 billion cubic meters in 2025, roughly 9% of China''''''''s consumption this year.
Chinese builders added the last section, a 167-km line from Nantong to Luzhi in the eastern province of Jiangsu, around mid-November, completing the massive project seven months ahead of schedule. The pipeline has a diameter of 1.422 meters, allowable pressure of 12 megapascals and the largest transport capacity for a single pipeline, state television said. The Power-of-Siberia pipeline began pumping gas in late 2019, and Russia has been ramping up supplies since. It is slated to deliver 38 bcm in 2025, state media said, a level 26% higher than the 30 bcm estimated by analysts for 2024. Citing an official with state-run PipeChina, the report said Power-of-Siberia is currently sending 110 million cubic meters of gas a day, versus 15 million cubic meters when the project first came on stream five years ago.
估计就是4-5年把。
现在还有西伯利亚2号线, 2024年开工,2029年完成。总长将有6700公里。最近得谈判好像不经过蒙古。 但是,一般5000公里,就是4年能干完。 俄新社报道称,“西伯利亚力量-2”管道的设计于2020年9月开始,它将经过蒙古国铺设,总长约6700公里。蒙古国总理奥云额尔登本月在俄举行的东方经济论坛上表示,他预计管道的建设将于2024年开始,2029年竣工。目前,管道的最终路线仍在讨论中。
中国想要管线直通大庆,日本要管线通纳霍德卡、旁支给中国
俄罗斯用石油把中国拿捏得死死的,最后中国还是没拿到自己最想要的结果
只不过形势比人强,中国接下来20年经济起飞,俄罗斯则是政治外交困境,两者一起来直接把整个大势改变了
所以乌克兰要加油👏
没有这场战争,大毛还是不能认清自己的位置,这样挺好,中国市场才是最大最稳定的市场,也是最可靠的市场,大毛不要,大把人要
只要付款跟得上,工地24小时运转没问题。工人计件不磨洋工。那种卡点上下班,喝咖啡磨洋工的怎么比效率?
前几天抖音刷到这个,还以为是假新闻呢,原来真建好了。动作真快啊。这下子中国能源又多一条路,以前一直担忧马六甲海峡被封锁。
还有刚建好的秘鲁的港口,可以从太平洋运能源和矿物过来,也不需要经过马六甲海峡。
不是有个运河走老挝,已经开工了?感觉全面开花,成效突然就冒出来了。
以前老说国内腐败不给普通人分红利,现在看看摊子大、外部形势不好,要做的事情还是挺多的。幸好基本达成了。这种也真的就国内体制能做。南美也搞集权,奈何国家不够大,集中力量最后也办不了几件事。
这种小 活在国内基本overnight. 一般人根本意识不到路给修了。
石油和天然气分不清?gas pipeline,不会把gas当汽油了吧?
全美这样的路况到处都是。俺们这嘎达翻新几个英里的路面。一段段半边半边的搞。已经一年了还没弄好。到处还是障碍筒。这可是繁华地区。非常影响上班和做生意。
人,“懒”是会上瘾的
美国人,让他再回到“勤劳苦干”的state,基本不肯能了
Japanese sinkhole: 48 hours later, it's fixed - CTV News
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抱啥团啊, 本来中国就想买, 俄罗斯现在没选择了, 只能卖给中国换钱.
美国真的应该学习
其实有个秘密一般人不知道,政府项目极其容易回不来款,尤其是领导换了的情况下。所以一般拿到项目都会拼了命的赶进度然后去要钱。
这个线路很牛,再过可以一直输送到东南亚,甚至印度(如果印度open to the idea的话),那基本上未来50年内,俄罗斯没问题了。
这种雪糕桶摆着阻碍交通不修路,浪费了多少人交通的时间。中国基建的效率实际大大提高了整个社会的效率。
还有巴基斯坦瓜达尔港口,都是为了确保能源安全的,所以中国派了300人军队携各种先进武器去中巴反恐联合演习(实际去搞俾路支的)。另外柬埔寨的运河开挖,除了越南跳脚,泰国也很想让中国在他境内最窄处挖运河,这样就不用走马六甲了,最近新加坡也频频示好中国。
中国这次也没留情。
俄罗斯卖中国的天然气,
中国要求按俄罗斯国内价卖天然气,
而且中国不着急,反正中东也有,不单一依赖俄罗斯
2号线本来要经蒙古的,结果蒙古不好好当个人中俄缓冲地非要往美国靠,想出口稀土给美国但他四面环中俄,中俄不同意他稀土根本出不来,然后中俄觉得他不稳定将他踢出局了
挺好的。
但我觉得中国最后也会走到这一步的,发达国家病,富了就是有这么多龟毛的规定要对付
像我们这修个东西,动着鸟窝了,不行,工程停工,等小鸟孵完蛋了,我们再搞个鸟窝迁移;工程的风格有没有跟历史冲突,有没有破坏历史建筑的风格,我们先评审起来,这个挑刺的人可就茫茫的多;环评,这个当然少不了。。。
那些必要的审核当然一个也少不了比如zoning review, mechanical and plumbing review,土壤侵蚀,电气,节能标准,绿能,防火安全,结构,公共空间利用,社区卫生风险,等等
能说这些审核不必要嘛?都必要,但效率就低了。没办法,中国发达了大概率也是一样的,其实有些大城市现在已经有点如此了,要平等保护社会的每一个方面,效率高不起来。
根本不是审核的问题。美国基建那么烂完全是政治因素
俄罗斯是个不靠谱的国家!中国人要一直提防着。什么合作无上限,真的只能嘴里讲讲
真的有这种可能。人走茶凉。
可能改成现实,更确切些。
拿不到工程款的小老板倾家荡产妻离子散的,绝对不是个例哇
中国的国情
中国速度,不得不服
盛极而衰,历史规律。幸运的是中国离盛极还有点远,目测还可以幸福很久
这个管道估计回不了本。 俄罗斯的油田已经开采150年了, 油气产量正在衰退, 相对较新的西西伯利亚油气产区的产量衰减也愈加明显。 俄罗斯石油新希望在大陆架的海上石油。 美国之类地方增加油气产量很容易也会很快, 把石油打到70美元以下估计很快实现。
美国的下一代教育继续搞leadership,鄙视学术和勤奋
旧金山的金门大桥防自杀网工程最终花了2.2亿美元约合人民币15亿;很简单的工程,目测在中国的话大概600万rmb都绰绰有余了。就是这么离谱