为什么美国的大学学费普遍这么贵?

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zhao.si
楼主 (北美华人网)
4 年 30 万刀?
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qiminxin
这才是资本主义 -- 连用于劳动力再生产的开支,包括婚育教育,也要劳动力自己出。
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shenandoah1
国家不管。中国,欧洲,日韩,加拿大,澳大利亚的大学都以公立为主,最好的大学都是公立。
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lemon841215
吸血中产
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Huarenxuan
可能要资助穷学生吧。。。
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pangapang
欧洲大陆国家的公立也不要什么钱吧,几百欧量级的
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qiminxin
美国资本的剥削强度极高,虽说工资多发了三五斗,不过通过医疗、教育都给收回来了还有余 -- 要不美国忝为发达国家,但平均预期寿命、身体素质、身高直线向第三世界看齐。
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youyouzou
美国资本的剥削强度极高,虽说工资多发了三五斗,不过通过医疗、教育都给收回来了还有余 -- 要不美国忝为发达国家,但平均预期寿命、身体素质、身高直线向第三世界看齐。
qiminxin 发表于 2024-11-29 00:48


教育要有选择,去公立,去CC,还有条活路。
医疗制度吸血,年年吸,月月吸,天天吸。熬到退休了Medicare 也只cover 80% outpatient, 每次(不是每年)住院1600多$ deductible, 还要自己全自费买药,不封顶。继续吸!
住房教育医疗三座大山,住房教育还有弹性,刚性医疗最狠。
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momo2008
需要养那么多混饭吃的教授吗?
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projecthailmary
其实普通faculty 工资不高得,还比外面干活辛苦。
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laohua001
需要养那么多混饭吃的教授吗?
momo2008 发表于 2024-11-29 11:54

教授本来就是一线干活的,而且那三瓜两枣根本就不够看。
真正牛逼的行政上的管理人员,工资不少啥都不干。

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Yes, the ratio of university administrators to teachers has more than doubled in the last 25 years: 
Growth in administrators: The number of non-academic administrators and professional employees at U.S. colleges and universities has more than doubled since 1987. 
Growth in faculty: The number of full-time faculty employed at colleges and universities in the U.S. increased by only 92% between 1976 and 2018. 
Growth in student enrollment: Student enrollment grew by 78% between 1976 and 2018. 
This growth in administrators is often referred to as "administrative bloat". It can be a serious issue for a number of reasons, including: Costs: Maintaining a large administrative staff requires funding. Impact on teaching: Administrators can limit free speech, encourage censorship, and generally promote ideals that limit intellectual growth. Vague roles: Administrative roles are notoriously vague and confusing. 
Some reasons for the growth in administrative staff include: Student support The growth of administrative and nonteaching staff positions is largely due to broader student support, often referred to as “wraparound services”. 
Compliance Compliance is another factor that''s driving additional student services staffing. 
Advancement Advancement and associated functions (e.g., marketing and communications) is another factor driving administrative staff growth. 
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Melaniejj9991
laohua001 发表于 2024-11-29 12:02
教授本来就是一线干活的,而且那三瓜两枣根本就不够看。
真正牛逼的行政上的管理人员,工资不少啥都不干。

AI Overview Learn more
Yes, the ratio of university administrators to teachers has more than doubled in the last 25 years: 
Growth in administrators: The number of non-academic administrators and professional employees at U.S. colleges and universities has more than doubled since 1987. 
Growth in faculty: The number of full-time faculty employed at colleges and universities in the U.S. increased by only 92% between 1976 and 2018. 
Growth in student enrollment: Student enrollment grew by 78% between 1976 and 2018. 
This growth in administrators is often referred to as "administrative bloat". It can be a serious issue for a number of reasons, including: Costs: Maintaining a large administrative staff requires funding. Impact on teaching: Administrators can limit free speech, encourage censorship, and generally promote ideals that limit intellectual growth. Vague roles: Administrative roles are notoriously vague and confusing. 
Some reasons for the growth in administrative staff include: Student support The growth of administrative and nonteaching staff positions is largely due to broader student support, often referred to as “wraparound services”. 
Compliance Compliance is another factor that''s driving additional student services staffing. 
Advancement Advancement and associated functions (e.g., marketing and communications) is another factor driving administrative staff growth. 

不不不,行政管理人员真的啥都不干就好了,关键人家为了凸显存在感,常常没事找事,搞出各种莫名其妙的事要你做
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weiyixia
教授主要是有tenure, tenure后就轻松了。就像政府工作,工资低,可是福利好。都是差不多算好的吧。就是码工这些年异军突起,有些乱了行情。
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countryside005
zhao.si 发表于 2024-11-28 23:31
4 年 30 万刀?

本州公立大学学费还好了。只有私立才贵,光学费也没你说的那么贵加上生活费差不多,有的甚至4年30万还不够。
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mermaidyuu
不不不,行政管理人员真的啥都不干就好了,关键人家为了凸显存在感,常常没事找事,搞出各种莫名其妙的事要你做
Melaniejj9991 发表于 2024-11-29 12:17

我 严重 同意 一下 我们这个破校 近年找不到什么高质量的行政人员,来来往往的,来一个就搞一次幺蛾子,烦死了!
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flyinthewind2012
一是国家不会补贴,大学都像是公司一样,要盈利那学费肯定不会便宜。第二州立大学也不是很贵,你要读私立大学肯定贵。第三,有部分贫穷学生免学费,那么摊在其它人身上的学费肯定就高了。第四,生活条件好,生活费肯定高,大学宿舍都有自己的单独卧室,有热水有空调有暖气,食堂每天大鱼大肉,跟工作的人条件靠齐,能不贵吗?
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flyinthewind2012
我看了一下一般的州立大学,学费一年一万多,但是生活费(吃住)一年是一万五,差不多一个月要$1500左右。感觉挺贵的。 不过现在国内大学生每个月生活费据说至少也要1500到2000了。
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Harvest800
大学学费就是一个市场供需关系,美国也有很多选择,有便宜的有贵的,只要市场负担得起大学学费就收费高
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Bgan
美国有公立私立大学,论教育水平都有世界顶级的。 加州大学系统里过半数学生免学费,而且四十多年前UC免费, CalState系统过百分之六十学生免学费。 美国其他州立本州学生免学费比例差不多。 认识一加拿大朋友双重国籍,小孩报考本州州立一号被拒,本州二号好专业被拒,三号收了但质量差点。他们决定送小孩回加拿大上多大CS,每年学费六千刀。 如果小孩上本州州立拿奖学金,自费部分只有三千多刀。看地方了。