英文原文： RFK Jr. clarifies his stance on vaccines with this amazing presentation: "Since I decided to run as an independent candidate for the presidency, one of the issues people seem most confused about is my position on vaccines. So today I'm gonna set the record straight by explaining my exact posture point by point. If you're willing to take a few minutes, I think you might be surprised to find out how much we actually agree." "So let's begin with my first point, which is probably the most controversial. Vaccines have side effects just like every other drug. This shouldn't be controversial, but it is. When I'm asked about this on television, it usually sounds something like this. You said that no vaccine is safe and effective. You said, quote, there's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. Do you still believe that? That statement comes from an interview where I was interrupted and I didn't get to complete my thought." "Can you name any vaccines that you think are good? I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably saw averting more problems than they're causing. There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. The big words. What I was actually saying that interview and what I've said for 20 years is that there is no such thing as a vaccine that is safe and effective for everyone. Let me explain." "Just like every drug on the market, vaccines have side effects that severely injure and kill some people every year. If that's in contrast to what you've been told, then your doctor probably never showed you the warning sheet that comes with every vaccine on the market. This is the insert that comes in the box with the hepatitis B vaccine, which is injected into most babies. within 24 hours of birth." "Let me read you just a few of the serious side effects in this document. Under the heading of nervous system disorders, it says Guillain-Barre syndrome, multiple sclerosis, exacerbation of multiple sclerosis, myelitis, including transverse myelitis, seizure, febrile seizure, peripheral neuropathy, including vellus palsy, radiculopathy, herpes, eye grain, muscle weakness, hypesthesia, and encephalitis, just swelling of the brain, even Johnson's syndrome, alopecia, and eczema. A list of side effects goes on and on. You got the idea." "For over a decade, I've been attacked and labeled an anti-vaxxer and a conspiracy theorist for simply drawing attention to the serious side effects listed on every vaccine insert and for advocating that the children who are suffering from these side effects. Our health departments believe we shouldn't talk about vaccine injuries because they are rare, but I don't agree with that. We can't fix a problem by ignoring it." "Vaccine-injured children deserve just as much attention as a child with a rare disease like cancer. Luckily, the thinking on this is starting to change. Here's a recent New York Times article about people who have been injured by the COVID vaccine. Thousands believe that COVID vaccines harm them. Is anyone listening? All vaccines have at least occasional side effects, but people who say they were injured by COVID vaccines believe their cases have been ignored. The article explains that all vaccines do have occasional side effects." "It calls for an investigation of the injured so that we can come up with solutions. Even one of the heads of the COVID task force, Dr. Deborah Birx, is joining this call for action. Well, that's why we need all the people to come forward that have had reactions, because I'm not sure all of them have been reported. There's been so much credibility lost in the public science groups, NIH, FDA, CDC, because I think there was a lack of really just transparency." "One of the things I used to tell my colleagues, don't be afraid to say you don't know the answer. And all too often, people would make up the answer. Those of us that tried to suggest there may be significant side effects from vaccines, we kind of like with the rest of your show that you had early on, we kind of got canceled because no one wanted to talk about the potential that there was a problem from the vaccines because they were afraid that would cause people not to want to get vaccinated. For years, we've been told that vaccines have been studied extensively, but Dr. Birx knows this is not true." "Should she be called an anti-vaxxer for finally telling us the truth? Back in 2005, Dr. Bernadine Healy, the former head of NIH, the National Institute for Health, made this shocking admission to CBS News. This is the time when we do have the opportunity to understand whether or not there are susceptible children, perhaps genetically, perhaps they have a metabolic issue, mitochondrial disorder, immunological issue, that makes them more susceptible. to vaccines plural or to one particular vaccine or to a component of vaccine like mercury." "Why is this important? A susceptible group does not mean that vaccines aren't good. What a susceptible group will tell us is that maybe there is a group of individuals or a group of children that shouldn't have a particular vaccine or shouldn't have vaccine on the same schedule. It is the job of the public health community and of physicians. to be out there and to say, yes, we can make it safer because we are able to say, this is a subset." "We're gonna deliver it in a way that we think is safer. Do you feel the government was too quick to dismiss out of hand that there was this possibility of a link between vaccines and autism? I think the government or certain public health officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss the concerns of these families without studying the population that got sick. I haven't seen. major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of a vaccine." "The reason why they didn't want to look for those susceptibility groups was because they were afraid that if they found them, however big or small they were, that would scare the public away. The fact that there is concern that you don't want to know that susceptible group is a real disappointment to me. If you know that susceptible group, you can say hello to your children. I'm going to usher in a new era in medicine." "I'm going to make sure that our regulatory agencies stop putting the interests of the pharmaceutical industry above the interests of the American people. I'm going to make sure that you are told the truth about every product, and that includes all the benefits and all the side effects that they know about." "And I'm going to fund our regulatory agencies to fix the problem instead of ignoring them and I'm going to stop them from gaslighting and silencing the scientists, the physicians, and the individuals who want to talk about vaccine injuries. That leads me to my next point. Vaccine makers should be legally responsible for their products and surprisingly they're not." "Let me explain. In 1986, vaccine manufacturers were losing so much money from lawsuits for death and injury caused by their vaccines that they couldn't make a profit. So they asked our government to protect them from liability, and that's what Congress did. It passed the so-called 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, and as a result of that bill, vaccines are the only consumer product that are completely shielded from liability." "That means no matter how reckless the company behaves, no matter how negligent they are, no matter how grievous your injury, you can't sue them. So let me ask you this, if a company can't be sued when their product injures or kills somebody, what incentive do they have to fix it? As an attorney, I can assure you that once a company knows that they can be sued when their product is defective, they work much harder to fix the issue themselves." "By repealing the 1986 act, we can replace regulation with responsibility and accountability. And my last point is this, freedom means having the right to choose. When President Biden passed the mandate during the pandemic to take away people's jobs if they did not submit to the COVID vaccine, he violated one of the central principles of freedom. Four million more people. got their first shot in August than they did in July. But we need to do more." "This is not about freedom or personal choice. It's about protecting yourself and those around you. If a person does not have the final decision of their own bodies, and they are owned by whoever does, this was the central discussion during the trials of the doctors who committed war crimes during World War II that resulted in the passage of the Nuremberg Code." "The very first rule of that code is called informed consent. It states, quote, the voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. Any use of force or coercion to inspire a medical decision is considered unethical. Americans today are reawakening to the critical importance of Nuremberg code. Currently, over 75% of Americans who are eligible are refusing to take the latest COVID booster." "For some, this would be their ninth shot. They've done their research. They've decided that they've had enough. That's called informed consent. Pfizer and Moderna are currently lobbying our government to mandate every shot, just like the first one. If this passes, you can be assured that we will be lined up like cattle and mandated to take every shot just like we were the first time." "American children are required to take 72 vaccines just to stay in school. Should that be the fate of adults too? That will never happen when I'm president. So to sum it all up, despite what you may have heard, I'm not going to take away anybody's vaccine who wants a vaccine. I'm just going to make them safer for everyone." "I'm going to make sure that the industry is responsible for their products. And I'm going to make sure that you are always free to choose what's right for you. If you agree with me, then go to http://Kennedy24.com to see what other changes I'm going to make when I'm the president."
回复 50楼 Sunnyrain0410 的帖子 from AI There have been some misinformation and conspiracy theories circulating about Bill Gates and his family's vaccination status. However, these claims have been debunked1. Bill Gates, his ex-wife Melinda Gates, and their children have all been vaccinated against COVID-19. Melinda Gates has publicly stated that all three of their children are fully vaccinated, and there is evidence that their daughter Jennifer Gates even posted about getting her COVID-19 vaccine on social media.
one_fish 发表于 2024-11-16 16:47 为什么一定要有专业背景，这里说的难道不是选择权的问题吗？ 即使有专业背景的疫苗科学家也不能强制别人打疫苗，这个很难理解和接受吗？ And I'm going to make sure that you are always free to choose what's right for you.
小肯尼迪澄清他对疫苗的立场：
“自从我决定以独立候选人的身份竞选总统以来，人们似乎对我的疫苗立场感到最困惑。所以今天，我要逐点阐明自己的立场。如果你愿意花几分钟时间，我想你可能会发现，我们之间的共识比你想象的更多。”
“让我们从第一个也是最具争议性的问题开始。疫苗和其他药物一样，也有副作用。这本不该是一个有争议的问题，但事实却是如此。当我在电视上被问及此事时，通常是这样问的：‘你说过没有任何疫苗是安全有效的。你说，引用你的话，没有一种疫苗是安全有效的。你还相信这句话吗？’ 这个声明源于一次采访，当时我被打断，没能完整表达我的想法。”
“有人问：‘你能举出任何你认为好的疫苗吗？’ 我认为一些活病毒疫苗可能在避免问题方面起到了更多作用。我当时的意思是，没有任何一种疫苗对所有人都安全有效。让我解释一下。”
“和市面上所有药物一样，疫苗每年都会严重伤害甚至导致一些人死亡。如果这与您被告知的有所不同，那可能是因为您的医生从未向您展示过每种疫苗包装中的警示单。这是乙型肝炎疫苗的说明书，这种疫苗在婴儿出生24小时内通常会注射。”
“让我读几条其中列出的严重副作用。在‘神经系统疾病’一栏中，列出了格林-巴利综合征、多发性硬化症、多发性硬化症恶化、脊髓炎（包括横贯性脊髓炎）、癫痫、发热性癫痫、周围神经病变（包括贝尔氏麻痹、神经根病）、单纯疱疹、偏头痛、肌无力、感觉异常、脑炎（即脑部肿胀）、约翰逊综合征、脱发和湿疹。副作用清单还在继续。你明白了。”
“十多年来，我因关注疫苗说明书中列出的严重副作用，并为受这些副作用影响的儿童发声而被攻击，被贴上‘反疫苗者’和‘阴谋论者’的标签。我们的卫生部门认为我们不应该谈论疫苗伤害，因为它们很少见，但我不同意。我们不能通过忽视问题来解决它。”
“疫苗受害儿童应该得到和罹患罕见疾病（如癌症）儿童同样的关注。幸运的是，这种思维正在改变。以下是《纽约时报》最近一篇关于COVID疫苗受害者的文章。成千上万人相信COVID疫苗伤害了他们。这篇文章呼吁对受害者进行调查，以便找到解决方案。甚至COVID工作组的负责人之一，黛博拉·伯克斯博士也在呼吁采取行动。‘我们需要所有有反应的人站出来，因为我不确定是否所有案例都已报告。’”
“伯克斯博士的这些话揭示了一个事实：我们过去常常被告知疫苗已经被广泛研究，但实际情况并非如此。她应该被称为反疫苗者吗？2005年，前NIH院长伯纳丁·希利博士曾向CBS新闻做出过类似的惊人表态。‘我们有机会了解是否有某些易感儿童，比如那些可能有遗传问题、新陈代谢问题、线粒体疾病或免疫系统问题的孩子。’”
“这是非常重要的。发现易感群体并不意味着疫苗不好，而是意味着我们可以为特定群体提供更安全的接种方式。政府不愿意研究这些易感群体，因为他们害怕发现问题会吓跑公众。这种恐惧对我来说是一种失望。如果我们知道易感群体是谁，就可以采取更安全的方式保护他们。”
“我要引领医学新时代，确保我们的监管机构不再将制药行业的利益置于美国人民之上。我会确保你被告知所有产品的真实信息，包括它们的所有益处和副作用。”
“此外，疫苗制造商应该为他们的产品负责。但事实上他们并不需要负责。让我解释一下。1986年，疫苗制造商因为疫苗导致的死亡和伤害诉讼损失严重，于是要求政府保护他们免受法律责任。这导致了《1986年疫苗伤害补偿法》的通过。结果，疫苗成为唯一不受法律追究的消费品。”
“这意味着，无论公司多么疏忽或产品多么有害，你都无法起诉他们。如果公司无法因为产品缺陷而被起诉，他们还有什么动力去改进产品？我要废除《1986年法案》，用责任和问责制取代监管。”
“最后一点，自由意味着选择权。在疫情期间，总统拜登通过强制措施，剥夺了那些不愿接种疫苗的人的工作。这违反了自由的核心原则。如果一个人不能对自己的身体做出最终决定，他们就被他人所拥有。这正是《纽伦堡法典》通过时的核心讨论内容。其第一条规定：人类受试者的自愿同意是绝对必要的。”
“目前，有超过75%的符合条件的美国人拒绝接种最新一剂COVID疫苗加强针。他们进行了研究，并决定已经足够了。这就是所谓的知情同意。如果辉瑞和莫德纳成功推动强制接种政策，我们将像牲畜一样被迫接种每一剂疫苗。这种情况在我担任总统期间绝不会发生。”
“总而言之，尽管你可能听说过我的一些立场，但我不会剥夺任何想要接种疫苗的人的权利。我只会让疫苗变得对每个人更安全。我将确保制药行业对其产品负责，并且确保你永远拥有选择权。如果你同意，请访问http://Kennedy24.com，了解我作为总统将要做出的其他改变。”
英文原文：
RFK Jr. clarifies his stance on vaccines with this amazing presentation: "Since I decided to run as an independent candidate for the presidency, one of the issues people seem most confused about is my position on vaccines. So today I'm gonna set the record straight by explaining my exact posture point by point. If you're willing to take a few minutes, I think you might be surprised to find out how much we actually agree."
"So let's begin with my first point, which is probably the most controversial. Vaccines have side effects just like every other drug. This shouldn't be controversial, but it is. When I'm asked about this on television, it usually sounds something like this. You said that no vaccine is safe and effective. You said, quote, there's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. Do you still believe that? That statement comes from an interview where I was interrupted and I didn't get to complete my thought."
"Can you name any vaccines that you think are good? I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably saw averting more problems than they're causing. There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. The big words. What I was actually saying that interview and what I've said for 20 years is that there is no such thing as a vaccine that is safe and effective for everyone. Let me explain."
"Just like every drug on the market, vaccines have side effects that severely injure and kill some people every year. If that's in contrast to what you've been told, then your doctor probably never showed you the warning sheet that comes with every vaccine on the market. This is the insert that comes in the box with the hepatitis B vaccine, which is injected into most babies. within 24 hours of birth."
"Let me read you just a few of the serious side effects in this document. Under the heading of nervous system disorders, it says Guillain-Barre syndrome, multiple sclerosis, exacerbation of multiple sclerosis, myelitis, including transverse myelitis, seizure, febrile seizure, peripheral neuropathy, including vellus palsy, radiculopathy, herpes, eye grain, muscle weakness, hypesthesia, and encephalitis, just swelling of the brain, even Johnson's syndrome, alopecia, and eczema. A list of side effects goes on and on. You got the idea."
"For over a decade, I've been attacked and labeled an anti-vaxxer and a conspiracy theorist for simply drawing attention to the serious side effects listed on every vaccine insert and for advocating that the children who are suffering from these side effects. Our health departments believe we shouldn't talk about vaccine injuries because they are rare, but I don't agree with that. We can't fix a problem by ignoring it."
"Vaccine-injured children deserve just as much attention as a child with a rare disease like cancer. Luckily, the thinking on this is starting to change. Here's a recent New York Times article about people who have been injured by the COVID vaccine. Thousands believe that COVID vaccines harm them. Is anyone listening? All vaccines have at least occasional side effects, but people who say they were injured by COVID vaccines believe their cases have been ignored. The article explains that all vaccines do have occasional side effects."
"It calls for an investigation of the injured so that we can come up with solutions. Even one of the heads of the COVID task force, Dr. Deborah Birx, is joining this call for action. Well, that's why we need all the people to come forward that have had reactions, because I'm not sure all of them have been reported. There's been so much credibility lost in the public science groups, NIH, FDA, CDC, because I think there was a lack of really just transparency."
"One of the things I used to tell my colleagues, don't be afraid to say you don't know the answer. And all too often, people would make up the answer. Those of us that tried to suggest there may be significant side effects from vaccines, we kind of like with the rest of your show that you had early on, we kind of got canceled because no one wanted to talk about the potential that there was a problem from the vaccines because they were afraid that would cause people not to want to get vaccinated. For years, we've been told that vaccines have been studied extensively, but Dr. Birx knows this is not true."
"Should she be called an anti-vaxxer for finally telling us the truth? Back in 2005, Dr. Bernadine Healy, the former head of NIH, the National Institute for Health, made this shocking admission to CBS News. This is the time when we do have the opportunity to understand whether or not there are susceptible children, perhaps genetically, perhaps they have a metabolic issue, mitochondrial disorder, immunological issue, that makes them more susceptible. to vaccines plural or to one particular vaccine or to a component of vaccine like mercury."
"Why is this important? A susceptible group does not mean that vaccines aren't good. What a susceptible group will tell us is that maybe there is a group of individuals or a group of children that shouldn't have a particular vaccine or shouldn't have vaccine on the same schedule. It is the job of the public health community and of physicians. to be out there and to say, yes, we can make it safer because we are able to say, this is a subset."
"We're gonna deliver it in a way that we think is safer. Do you feel the government was too quick to dismiss out of hand that there was this possibility of a link between vaccines and autism? I think the government or certain public health officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss the concerns of these families without studying the population that got sick. I haven't seen. major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of a vaccine."
"The reason why they didn't want to look for those susceptibility groups was because they were afraid that if they found them, however big or small they were, that would scare the public away. The fact that there is concern that you don't want to know that susceptible group is a real disappointment to me. If you know that susceptible group, you can say hello to your children. I'm going to usher in a new era in medicine."
"I'm going to make sure that our regulatory agencies stop putting the interests of the pharmaceutical industry above the interests of the American people. I'm going to make sure that you are told the truth about every product, and that includes all the benefits and all the side effects that they know about."
"And I'm going to fund our regulatory agencies to fix the problem instead of ignoring them and I'm going to stop them from gaslighting and silencing the scientists, the physicians, and the individuals who want to talk about vaccine injuries. That leads me to my next point. Vaccine makers should be legally responsible for their products and surprisingly they're not."
"Let me explain. In 1986, vaccine manufacturers were losing so much money from lawsuits for death and injury caused by their vaccines that they couldn't make a profit. So they asked our government to protect them from liability, and that's what Congress did. It passed the so-called 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, and as a result of that bill, vaccines are the only consumer product that are completely shielded from liability."
"That means no matter how reckless the company behaves, no matter how negligent they are, no matter how grievous your injury, you can't sue them. So let me ask you this, if a company can't be sued when their product injures or kills somebody, what incentive do they have to fix it? As an attorney, I can assure you that once a company knows that they can be sued when their product is defective, they work much harder to fix the issue themselves."
"By repealing the 1986 act, we can replace regulation with responsibility and accountability. And my last point is this, freedom means having the right to choose. When President Biden passed the mandate during the pandemic to take away people's jobs if they did not submit to the COVID vaccine, he violated one of the central principles of freedom. Four million more people. got their first shot in August than they did in July. But we need to do more."
"This is not about freedom or personal choice. It's about protecting yourself and those around you. If a person does not have the final decision of their own bodies, and they are owned by whoever does, this was the central discussion during the trials of the doctors who committed war crimes during World War II that resulted in the passage of the Nuremberg Code."
"The very first rule of that code is called informed consent. It states, quote, the voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. Any use of force or coercion to inspire a medical decision is considered unethical. Americans today are reawakening to the critical importance of Nuremberg code. Currently, over 75% of Americans who are eligible are refusing to take the latest COVID booster."
"For some, this would be their ninth shot. They've done their research. They've decided that they've had enough. That's called informed consent. Pfizer and Moderna are currently lobbying our government to mandate every shot, just like the first one. If this passes, you can be assured that we will be lined up like cattle and mandated to take every shot just like we were the first time."
"American children are required to take 72 vaccines just to stay in school. Should that be the fate of adults too? That will never happen when I'm president. So to sum it all up, despite what you may have heard, I'm not going to take away anybody's vaccine who wants a vaccine. I'm just going to make them safer for everyone."
"I'm going to make sure that the industry is responsible for their products. And I'm going to make sure that you are always free to choose what's right for you. If you agree with me, then go to http://Kennedy24.com to see what other changes I'm going to make when I'm the president."
🔥 最新回帖
这是连“社会达尔文主义“都显不够了，直接要求人性转兽性了
让我送你一句话 - 神经病啊你！
日本毒针不强制，且人口密度老年化比美都高， 但死亡率只有美的1/6， 除了美谎报死亡率外（一些与新冠无关，比如车祸死亡也报新冠死亡而拿经费），看不出疫苗对新冠的任何保护， 相反疫苗普及比日本高， 死亡率也更高, 是否说明疫苗与加速死亡相关？
怎么是胡搅蛮缠？你说打了乙肝疫苗，免疫率是多少吧？和接种率一起，就可以算出这批儿童感染下降率
你这个就属于胡搅蛮缠了。 任何疫苗的推进都不是一天里完成的，老少边穷地区，一开始是收费疫苗，还有脑子不好的坚决不打疫苗的（不是说你啊），一年下降10%已经是惊人的速度了。你如果说是卫生习惯，那同样是体液传播的艾滋和hepC怎么没有这么惊人的下降呢，连最能反应国家卫生状况的新生儿死亡率都没有十几年内下降75%以上。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
Fauci倒是有专业背景，却是个恶魔。 另一个没有专业背景去造疫苗的比尔盖茨，也是个恶魔。
为什么一定要有专业背景，这里说的难道不是选择权的问题吗？ 即使有专业背景的疫苗科学家也不能强制别人打疫苗，这个很难理解和接受吗？ And I'm going to make sure that you are always free to choose what's right for you.
天啊，记得mm也是个知识分子文化人啊，咋也变神棍了啊？说话这语气了，转轮了吗？
禁止食品中某些有害添加剂，和欧洲日本标准看齐
打破药厂官商勾结的旋转门
公开疫苗副作用，取消强制
加大研究慢性病起因，而非把慢性病人当药罐子韭菜
帽子党又来扣帽子了。
你才是个恶魔
疫苗全部废除！白喉、破伤风和百日咳， 乙肝甲肝polio新冠，有一个算一个，全部废除！要染一起染，要死一起死！
照你这么说，生病也不用看病了，优胜略汰嘛
是。
我觉得版上很多人非黑即白，这种不是有政治目的就是阿斯伯格不自知。
大部分情况下，应该是中庸之道而不是极端主义。当然难度在于中庸在哪里，度的掌握。
属实
我记得有看过一个视频，应该是澳大利亚的一个女记者问盖茨，你又不是疫苗专家，为什么怎么怎么的（记不得原话），盖茨说他身边有很多专家。。。后来他被问火了，甩手起身走了，结束了采访。。
乙肝疫苗很有效，但为什么要给刚出生的娃娃就接种？而且代谢的快，每几个月就要加强一针？这里面都是利益。 婴儿在家，父母没有乙肝的话，从哪里来的风险？为什么不能等大一些，血脑屏障长好了些再接种？到现在也没有专家医生能解释一下
天呀，没有疫苗，美国和世界应该是疾病大流行，像中世纪一样死人无数吧？你们川普粉是想回到黑暗的中世纪吗？
对呀。疫苗不知道挽救了多少生命。
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/
说出常识和事实就是神棍吗？那我们都以当神棍为荣，以当福奇和笔盖子那样的“科学家”为耻！
今年娃儿体检，医生又推荐打HPV疫苗。才九岁的男孩啊，我连你发的传单都没看完就让打，我直接就据了。还跟我说什么研究表明不到青春期也可以打，blah blah blah。让他给研究的reference 又给不出。
对于非传统的新疫苗，普通家长根本没机会去作具体细致的调查，都是听医生。informed decision很重要，不能都依赖医生护士。
干嘛这么气急败坏的样子？福奇是你亲戚还是你偶像？
没有人强迫你 要听他的啊
我知道几个专业人士对这次新冠疫苗都有微词。
包括我前两年看的家庭医生。其实不是我的家庭医生，我自己的医生老约不到，只好约了另一个。
因为新医生，问一堆家庭病史。听我说了家里亲戚的一健康个问题后，立刻说，是因为打了新冠疫苗了吗？但是立刻觉得这话不该说，又弥补半天把话岔开。
感觉这次新冠疫苗出问题的比较多，再加上强制，带来的不满比较多。专业人士也有疑问。
你能不能说说你现在打了几个covid booster了？现在booster已经出到10个了，10不打满的都是川粉反疫苗不懂科学没文化！
是的，疫苗挽救了很多生命，这不是大家要否定的，是共识。 在楼主的引用声明中是：
“2005年，前NIH院长伯纳丁·希利博士曾向CBS新闻做出过类似的惊人表态。‘我们有机会了解是否有某些易感儿童，比如那些可能有遗传问题、新陈代谢问题、线粒体疾病或免疫系统问题的孩子。’”
“这是非常重要的。发现易感群体并不意味着疫苗不好，而是意味着我们可以为特定群体提供更安全的接种方式。政府不愿意研究这些易感群体，因为他们害怕发现问题会吓跑公众。这种恐惧对我来说是一种失望。如果我们知道易感群体是谁，就可以采取更安全的方式保护他们。”
哈哈, 这个是关键. 我们到底是从林社会, 还是文明社会? 可笑得是支持这些政策的不少人自以为是强者, 其实是弱者. Delta期间, 我们这感染特别严重, 医院, ICU爆满. 很多不打疫苗, 不戴口罩的都是有基础病的. 从社会层面上看, 是无所谓, 老弱病残, who care. 可科技发展到 2024年, 我们还要回到从林社会吗?
似乎你们气急败坏在先？福奇碾你们家狗了？
请定义神棍。。。
支持 ！
这些年美国甚至全世界都在致力推动personalized medicine，医学研究不是在玩儿，也不可能一口气吃个胖子，对于重大公共卫生问题，保护大多数人的利益肯定是首要的，公共卫生政策的制定也基于此。
如果你是被伤害的和牺牲的当事人，就不会这样说了。任何个人的权益都应当收到保护。况且易感人群不不是少数。
越来越多的儿童自闭症患者，很多家长都觉得是免疫针之后开始变化的。只不过没有家长在重压之下还能打官司，也很难有证据。 所以下面的案例非常让人惊讶： https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to-receive-15m-plus-in-first-ever-vaccine-autism-court-award/
而且承认疫苗的有限性和对易感人群的伤害，并不是否定疫苗的作用和贡献。
美国的医生会不告诉潜在风险吗? 我家孩子打的每个疫苗都有长长的风险说明. 这些疫苗后遗症的数据都是可以查的. 不打疫苗, 严重传染病重新流行, 更糟糕的是越流行就越可能产生新的变异. 孰轻孰重不明显吗. 没关系, 美国再来一遍疫情估计也死不光. 人的记忆力!! 我现在都记得我一个学生得了新冠,特别严重,然后他父母都进了ICU, 他和我说他特别后悔没打疫苗. 哦, 我们这疫苗不是强制的, Delta那会儿病情严重的学生全是没打过疫苗,我认识的无一例外.
Gates 确实对生物医药还是很用心的。。 2007 年初我参加过国际顶级专家的疫苗研讨会， Gates 是专心听每个专家的报告， 还问了很专业的技术问题。。 他老婆没参加， 都是DNA,RNA 分子生物学遗传基因等的研究，不觉得他夫人会感兴趣。。。我觉得Gates对医学研究还是很有天分和兴趣的。。。
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单说这个，
这么多年，我家孩子打疫苗（包括成人打疫苗）从来没有从医生那里拿到过/听到过什么长长的风险说明啊。
顶多就是会疼，洗澡小心，可能会发烧这种无关紧要的副作用。真正的副作用从来没有被通知过。
大家都拿到/听到过吗？
你这种坏种才是恶魔，滚出美国！
Personalized medicine就是针对人群的易感性不同呀，没有人否认药物/疫苗存在副作用，难道不是应该两手都要抓吗？你作为一个个体，打疫苗前知道自己是啥情况么？你怎么判断自己是受害人还是受益人？还是你不打疫苗、风险让别人担着？
笔盖子这么有天分懂科学，他家娃各个都不打任何疫苗是为啥？这可是多年前他自己亲口说的奥！现在给福奇和笔盖子洗地捧臭脚我真佩服你们的勇气和信念！
听他鬼扯！中国美国都打过疫苗，从来没有任何人说什么严重副作用的事！恨不得说疫苗就是老君的仙丹啦！
这些又不是必打. 我们家从不打流感疫苗, HPV更不会打. 新冠疫苗需要年年打? 没听说过啊. 这是某些医生的问题吧. 可现在搞得这些反疫苗论实在是过了. 如果反对某个疫苗被强制, 完全可以拿数据去学区抗议. 以我个人, 我真得应该支持这个肯尼迪, 我活这么大, 除了吃过点抗生素, 什么药都没吃过, 今年才有一个家庭医生. 我也不做任何医疗检查. 医药研究对我有什么用, 统统砍掉. 可这世界不是我一个人的吧, 对别人有用就是有用啊. 要说利益集团, 医药肯定是. 可枪支呢, 每年NRA没有lobby? 那些石油公司呢?
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我个人觉得，在新冠时期算特殊情况，强制是当时对老年人的保护，现在也不强制了吧？而且新冠作为紧急公卫事件，很多经验教训都是过程中摸索的，对于任何有效安全的研究言论，权威的方法都是大规模随机双盲实验，谁能够做这种实验？尤其是生死攸关的时候？
轮子比起她说的这个是恶魔那个是恶魔帽子好多了。
法轮这麽不敢承认吗？
额，HPV在男性里也致癌的。小时后打两针就好，大了就要三针了。
认识第一层楼的字吗？英文不认识有中文。
最讨厌就是你们极左断章取义颠倒黑白的恶心样。
何必这么极端? 我一个booster没打, 可我不反疫苗. 美国有很多有基础病的, 疫苗对他们是利大于弊. 有科学文化的就会去研究利弊, 针对自己的情况做出判断. 新冠疫苗根本就没有全民强制, 尤其是后面的booster. 哪个公司的头头强制你去找他们说理去.
问题是新冠疫苗不能防感染和传染，强制别人怎么能保护老年人？
所以你的选择是无脑相信主媒和砖家的意见吗？
福奇干了啥只要疫情这几年在美国的人都清清楚楚。你现在还给他洗地，难不成你靠他的funding吃饭的？hai d h就仅仅无脑崇拜？
你从来不看美国新闻的吗？不就是福奇方面公开呼吁要给不打疫苗的人制造越来越多的困难吗？不能上学不能去餐馆，呼吁各大公司强制疫苗不打就开除！那几年你不在美国还是没在美国上班过？
你根本就不懂政治和政治里的言外之意。
他说很多疫苗都有副作用，他要给药厂压力去研究没有副作用的疫苗，听上去很合理是不是？
事实上没有副作用的疫苗很可能根本就不存在，就跟药一样，是药三分毒，不可能没有完全没有副作用的药，但是疫苗的作用是巨大的，天花消灭了，脊髓灰质炎几乎消灭了。他要求100%安全的疫苗，那其实就是不许研究疫苗。如果你的老师要求你每门功课考100分才能毕业，你能毕业吗？
天下事都不是完美的！别说强制人打疫苗了，你就是强制人一天必须吃三个馒头都必遭强烈反对！更何况疫苗公司对疫苗的副作用根本不承担任何责任！凭什么你替我做决定，后果要我自己承担！
新冠疫苗在强制的那个当下没人知道能不能防感染，是基于传染病以前疫苗阻断传播途径的经验制定的政策，而且，迄今也没有人能证明，没有新冠疫苗、人类新冠的防治是不是能更好，疫苗作用/副作用孰轻孰重有人信吗？反正专家权威现在都反智，华人乌央乌央推孩子学医也不知道是为啥？
还是不要这样说。你提到的两个人，和肯尼迪上面所说的，没有什么两样。只是政治斗争，妖魔化对方。
做为对医疗系统的了解，美国的医疗系统是非常谨慎的。会有非常详尽的副作用清单，每次接种疫苗，都会给人这些信息，并签字同意注射。
只是当政治斗争的时候，都把对方妖魔化了。最罪恶的还是选举行情，变成了必须要妖魔化对方，才能当选。
别个人攻击, 这就没品了. 我支持福奇了? 那个帖子? 美国2020年的疫情应对从头到尾都是笑话. 但疫苗不是, 回去看看Delta的流行区域和疫苗普及率的相关性.
from AI There have been some misinformation and conspiracy theories circulating about Bill Gates and his family's vaccination status. However, these claims have been debunked1. Bill Gates, his ex-wife Melinda Gates, and their children have all been vaccinated against COVID-19. Melinda Gates has publicly stated that all three of their children are fully vaccinated, and there is evidence that their daughter Jennifer Gates even posted about getting her COVID-19 vaccine on social media.
我确定你根本没有在美国打过疫苗！
说到这个covid疫苗我还真就是一直都在追踪文献，delta的了流行率跟疫苗的接种率成正相关，当年2021年宾大斯坦福合作发的cell，无论在世界范围内还是美国国内，都发现接种率越高的地区发病率越高，当然这些paper主流媒体是完全忽视只字不提的！
拉倒把，什么疫苗作用巨大，消灭什么天花都是扯淡，根本没有大型双盲实验证明，都是药厂和疫苗教瞎吹，然后无数的人以讹传讹，历史上唯一一个有上亿人实践证明的疫苗就是covid疫苗，包括mRNA和中国的传统方式，结果证明是完全失败。事实证明疫苗就是皇帝新装。每一个疫苗都应该从新经过大型双盲实验证明有效，跟踪几十万人长期看副作用，如果有证明那大家打这个疫苗没问题，没有证明光凭嘴炮？喜欢打的可以打，但要强迫别人打毒针，就是犯罪反人类
川粉都不看新闻的吗？新冠疫苗虽然走了快速通道，也是做了大量的临床试验的，而且因为赶上新冠大流行，所以试验的人数远超一般药物临床试验的人数，结果是板上钉钉的一点疑问都没有。
而且这个疫苗的快速研发和上市是你们川总亲自部署亲自领导的warp speed 项目，这是我眼中川普做的极少数对国家有利的事情之一，他还拿来当自己的功绩吹嘘过，后来发现他的基本盘底层红脖子不买账，就不再提了，这么快就忘了？
看来你根本就不懂相关性和因果性之间的关系
就是， 在医院工作的人包括医学生等都得打一堆疫苗。。 不明白反对打疫苗还让孩子上医学院 LOL。。
连疫苗消灭天花都不承认，难怪会支持川普，回你的贴真是对牛谈琴
今年娃儿体检，医生又推荐打HPV疫苗。才九岁的男孩啊，我连你发的传单都没看完就让打，我直接就据了。还跟我说什么研究表明不到青春期也可以打，blah blah blah。让他给研究的reference 又给不出。
这种情况我也会拒绝的。很不舒服。给九岁男孩打hpv疫苗真的太不合适了。
可笑！我非常自信在这方面我一定比你懂得多！
你这么信任疫苗懂疫苗，说说你现在打了几个covid booster了？说说你理解的相关性和因果性？最基本的这个covid mRNA疫苗的作用机制你说说看？
就是这样的, 肯定都会有副作用. 害怕西医副作用, 用中医就不怕副作用? 喝水喝多了还会中毒呢. 美国医疗行业肯定是有过度治疗, 中国现在也一样. 这些都应该拿出来好好研究讨论. 上来就是喊口号, 指责, 砍钱, 这是想好好做事吗. 无非就是指责. 不过指责他人可以排毒, 对自己的心理健康有利, 呵呵.
啊？bill gates 孩子不打疫苗这个不太可能。他女儿在医院工作应该医务工作者是强制打得
这没啥好争的，他自己多年前的采访亲口说的！
知道以后也没有取消强制啊。媒体宣传covid疫苗作用的几部曲：防感染防传染，变成不防传染，再变成不妨感染但是防重症。。。 who knows 能不能防重症 而且辉瑞后来承认他们根本就没有做防感染实验。 所以我们听到的 都是propaganda。FDA 隐瞒辉瑞副作用的report. 总之新冠疫情期间FDA， CDC没少撒谎瞎指挥。
善良的天使，你今年打疫苗了吗？记住一定多打几针蛤。
自从疫情后发现一线医务都被强制疫苗，我就把学医这个选项划掉了
接种越高感染率越高，这是说明疫苗起了好作用。因为感染了才会产生自然抗体，双保险可以抵御下一轮病毒的攻击。再说了，打疫苗的目的是为了防重症。你的研究是不是发现，这些人虽然染病了，但是感谢疫苗没死。参考福奇，拜登，小土豆，一轮轮染，但是至今好好滴。
嗯，反正美国医生都傻，医护人员强制打疫苗居然都忍了，你是大聪明，为此不学医。
传染病的传播性需要群体免疫来阻断传播，疫苗如果是随意可选然后超过一定比例不选等于没有疫苗。那不打不能去公众场合譬如学校这些，是等于有自动选择么？是不打疫苗人群可以接受的么？
我认为RFK Jr的意思是既然有副作用，那么就应该加强对特殊人群的疫苗研究，并且不应该强制，这不是挺reasonable的。 美国现在儿童自闭症，adhd， 各种问题越来越多，是不是跟疫苗相关，是时候做些研究了。
当时联邦要求公司是federal contractor，员工不完全remote的必须打两针疫苗，不打就只能停职，不能来 onsite上班。确实有些人不情愿打的