联邦修宪还是很难的,但不需要全民投票

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thymesu
楼主 (北美华人网)
不太懂说法院从新解释这条途径。 Amending the U.S. Constitution is an intentionally challenging process, designed to ensure that only amendments with broad, lasting support across the country become part of the foundational law. Here’s how it works: 1. Proposal of an Amendment There are two ways to propose an amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Congressional Proposal: An amendment can be proposed by a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. This is by far the most common method. Constitutional Convention: Alternatively, two-thirds (34) of state legislatures can call for a constitutional convention to propose an amendment. However, this method has never been successfully used. 2. Ratification Process After an amendment is proposed, it must be ratified by three-fourths (38) of the state legislatures or by state ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states (the method used is specified by Congress). This requirement for supermajority support from the states is what makes passing a constitutional amendment so difficult. 3. No Nationwide Popular Vote The U.S. Constitution does not require a national popular vote to amend the Constitution. Instead, it relies on state legislatures or state conventions, which represent the people within each state, to provide ratification. This approach emphasizes the role of the states in constitutional changes, as opposed to a direct national vote. Last Amendment Ratified 27th Amendment (1992): The most recent amendment to the U.S. Constitution is the 27th Amendment, which limits congressional pay changes from taking effect until after the next election of representatives. Originally proposed in 1789, it was finally ratified over 200 years later, in 1992. Because of the high thresholds for both proposing and ratifying an amendment, the U.S. Constitution has only been amended 27 times in over 230 years.
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flyinthewind2012
按照现在川普的风头,如果全民投票取消落地公民权,我觉得会通过的。因为在MAGA党的洗脑之下,移民已经成了罪不可赦的群体,美国的白人群体血液被污染了。等等。所以落地公民权如果全体投票。肯定会大多人赞同然后通过的。
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teabucket
川普版圣经加进去了一个阉割版本宪法,删掉修正案里面一部分,包括有13th (废除奴隶制),14th(出生公民权、due process) , 19th (给女性投票权)。 maga 能不能做成修宪另外说,但是他们想去干什么一目了然
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gokgs
美国能改宪法? 这个可能性基本为零。 祖宗之法不可变。
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EightDishes
flyinthewind2012 发表于 2024-11-08 11:08
按照现在川普的风头,如果全民投票取消落地公民权,我觉得会通过的。因为在MAGA党的洗脑之下,移民已经成了罪不可赦的群体,美国的白人群体血液被污染了。等等。所以落地公民权如果全体投票。肯定会大多人赞同然后通过的。

不要一个接一个的“觉得”了,先说说“川普上台华人进集中营”什么时候会变成现实吧,这个你们都念叨了好久了。
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onenight
一个完全不可能事情值得这么讨论么?
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teabucket
EightDishes 发表于 2024-11-08 11:23
不要一个接一个的“觉得”了,先说说“川普上台华人进集中营”什么时候会变成现实吧,这个你们都念叨了好久了。

那你应该问川普,是川普最近多次提到要执行alien enemy act. 你应该去追问他什么时候开始执行
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Moscow79
能不能修宪关键要看枪杆子有没有控制在川党手里,只要拳头足够大,啥事干不了?
吃鸡蛋
不是说了么,不用修宪,重新释法就行
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thymesu
flyinthewind2012 发表于 2024-11-08 11:08
按照现在川普的风头,如果全民投票取消落地公民权,我觉得会通过的。因为在MAGA党的洗脑之下,移民已经成了罪不可赦的群体,美国的白人群体血液被污染了。等等。所以落地公民权如果全体投票。肯定会大多人赞同然后通过的。

不需要全民投票。题目开始写错了。
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Everglades
flyinthewind2012 发表于 2024-11-08 11:08
按照现在川普的风头,如果全民投票取消落地公民权,我觉得会通过的。因为在MAGA党的洗脑之下,移民已经成了罪不可赦的群体,美国的白人群体血液被污染了。等等。所以落地公民权如果全体投票。肯定会大多人赞同然后通过的。

Loving v. Virginia真有可能被废,那个和Roe v. Wade是同一段时间发生的。
很多红州有现成的禁止种族通婚的古老法律,只要Loving v. Virginia被废就可以激活了。
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flaminglotus
flyinthewind2012 发表于 2024-11-08 11:08
按照现在川普的风头,如果全民投票取消落地公民权,我觉得会通过的。因为在MAGA党的洗脑之下,移民已经成了罪不可赦的群体,美国的白人群体血液被污染了。等等。所以落地公民权如果全体投票。肯定会大多人赞同然后通过的。

同意。
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flaminglotus
Everglades 发表于 2024-11-08 13:15
Loving v. Virginia真有可能被废,那个和Roe v. Wade是同一段时间发生的。
很多红州有现成的禁止种族通婚的古老法律,只要Loving v. Virginia被废就可以激活了。

真是不可想象,但不是不可能。
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teabucket
过程不是重点,关键看终极目标是什么,maga 就是对 第十三、第十四、第十九有意见。 我在网上看到英文评论有人说只要吧19废掉什么都可以不管不顾
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sbtelf
宪法第14修正案 All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 这个高法确实可以重新解释一下就行了。尤其是subject to the jurisdiction受美国管辖这个字眼,非法移民等很容易被重新解释为不包括在内。

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thymesu
sbtelf 发表于 2024-11-08 13:28
宪法第14修正案 All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. 这个高法确实可以重新解释一下就行了。尤其是subject to the jurisdiction受美国管辖这个字眼,非法移民等很容易被重新解释为不包括在内。


不太懂你要解释什么。在美国本土和美属地生的就是美国公民呀。
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manduka
修宪有啥难的
厉害国玩剩下的,抄作业而已.