The richest man in the world appears to have worked in the US without authorization. According to experts, if he did so and lied about it as part of the immigration process, he could be denaturalized
Earlier this week, though, The Washington Post reported that Musk was himself an immigrant who had apparently broken the law. In the 1990s, he worked illegally in the United States, according to the Post, which cited “former business associates, court records and company documents.”
小亥 发表于 2024-10-31 19:48 The richest man in the world appears to have worked in the US without authorization. According to experts, if he did so and lied about it as part of the immigration process, he could be denaturalized
Earlier this week, though, The Washington Post reported that Musk was himself an immigrant who had apparently broken the law. In the 1990s, he worked illegally in the United States, according to the Post, which cited “former business associates, court records and company documents.”
denatralize and deport musk到法律依据 仔细读读移民法原文 certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation 划重点：concealment of a material fact 你故意装傻在表格上那个问题填了NO，就符合这一条了。移民法对移民行为规范极其严格，一般法律要求造成实施危害才算，移民法这个剥夺公民权的规定里，只要你有隐瞒行为，哪怕没有造成任何后果，也算可以合法剥夺公民权的理由。 8 U.S.C. § 1451 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 8. Aliens and Nationality § 1451. Revocation of naturalization Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff (a)Concealment of material evidence; refusal to testify It shall be the duty of the United States attorneys for the respective districts, upon affidavit showing good cause therefor, to institute proceedings in any district court of the United States in the judicial district in which the naturalized citizen may reside at the time of bringing suit, for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation, and such revocation and setting aside of the order admitting such person to citizenship and such canceling of certificate of naturalization shall be effective as of the original date of the order and certificate, respectively: Provided, That refusal on the part of a naturalized citizen within a period of ten years following his naturalization to testify as a witness in any proceeding before a congressional committee concerning his subversive activities, in a case where such person has been convicted of contempt for such refusal, shall be held to constitute a ground for revocation of such person's naturalization under this subsection as having been procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation. If the naturalized citizen does not reside in any judicial district in the United States at the time of bringing such suit, the proceedings may be instituted in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or in the United States district court in the judicial district in which such person last had his residence.
小亥 发表于 2024-10-31 19:48 The richest man in the world appears to have worked in the US without authorization. According to experts, if he did so and lied about it as part of the immigration process, he could be denaturalized
Earlier this week, though, The Washington Post reported that Musk was himself an immigrant who had apparently broken the law. In the 1990s, he worked illegally in the United States, according to the Post, which cited “former business associates, court records and company documents.”
Earlier this week, though, The Washington Post reported that Musk was himself an immigrant who had apparently broken the law. In the 1990s, he worked illegally in the United States, according to the Post, which cited “former business associates, court records and company documents.”
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难道不应该是一些支持川普的人和川普一样违法在先？真是物以类聚！
这就是美国一贯的政治迫害罢了。。
那民主党更开心。他们的目的就是搞乱美国一党执政，会在意一龙去哪里？ 只有美国人失去了一龙才倒霉
🛋️ 沙发板凳
还以为要被阉割了
仔细读读移民法原文 certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation 划重点：concealment of a material fact 你故意装傻在表格上那个问题填了NO，就符合这一条了。移民法对移民行为规范极其严格，一般法律要求造成实施危害才算，移民法这个剥夺公民权的规定里，只要你有隐瞒行为，哪怕没有造成任何后果，也算可以合法剥夺公民权的理由。 8 U.S.C. § 1451 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 8. Aliens and Nationality § 1451. Revocation of naturalization Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff (a)Concealment of material evidence; refusal to testify It shall be the duty of the United States attorneys for the respective districts, upon affidavit showing good cause therefor, to institute proceedings in any district court of the United States in the judicial district in which the naturalized citizen may reside at the time of bringing suit, for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation, and such revocation and setting aside of the order admitting such person to citizenship and such canceling of certificate of naturalization shall be effective as of the original date of the order and certificate, respectively: Provided, That refusal on the part of a naturalized citizen within a period of ten years following his naturalization to testify as a witness in any proceeding before a congressional committee concerning his subversive activities, in a case where such person has been convicted of contempt for such refusal, shall be held to constitute a ground for revocation of such person's naturalization under this subsection as having been procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation. If the naturalized citizen does not reside in any judicial district in the United States at the time of bringing such suit, the proceedings may be instituted in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or in the United States district court in the judicial district in which such person last had his residence.
希望可以把他和他的钱一起送到火星上去，就别回来了
不那么容易剥夺他的公民。
他这个级别 律师不如媒体有用 这就是为啥他要买Twitter的原因 当然 最好用的还是警察和军队
前四年他好好的，是因为他没帮trump。现在不一样了。接下去他真的可能会遭殃。
if you speed and get caught, you get a ticket, if not, no one cares.
太好了！希望成真啊！！！！
万一他移民中国，美国政府直跺脚
我就不明白，elon musk这么大胆的发钱买投票，这是违法法律的事情，怎么没人管呢？是不是elon musk现在与trump为伍没人敢动他。Biden总统也不管管这么违法的事情。 而且最近trump的bannon也被放出来，看起来trump 的势力很大啊！
因为他并没有发钱买投票，你拿了钱不投都可以
哈哈哈哈😂。大家都争elon吧。得一龙者得火星
民主党又开始打击报复，再司法迫害了
这么一个首屈一指的企业家发明家，美国得好好留住。上哪找这么牛的人去啊
也没啥了不起吧
中国：太好了 我们的航空事业一下进步50年
富人还稀罕美国籍？看来顺🐷者猖，逆🐷者亡。
你这大实话一说，一堆口水又朝你飞来。
不是美国籍， 拿不到美国军队国防部的项目， NASA也不与他合作了。。 他真的有技术和本事吗？
哎！皇帝的新装！快看，他其实什么都没穿。
你是不是說反了?
你要拿马斯克的钱，投谁都行。别人鼓励你去投票，就给钱。又没说投共和党才给你钱拿。别人首富的律师团不是白养的。法律这东西就是武器，可以用来伤害任何人，也可以用来保护自己，法律不代表公正。
得了吧，是不是操纵选举可以看看事实！被他鼓动才去投票的90%都是投共和党。讨厌他的才不会去参加他那抽奖！结果就是在用钱操纵选举！
让他去加拿大吧，把工厂和公司转过去，给加拿大交税。估计欧洲日本也都会欢迎他的。
他在美国不用跟中国的性价比好的电车竞争
去了别的国家，他的电车能得到这么多国家的支持政策跟补贴吗？ 外面的电车市场有美国现在好吗？ 以后他的电车进入美国就要加很多的关税，在美国市场就没有竞争力了吧
至于NASA的合同，他走了那些作出重大贡献的工作人员又不会跟着走，人家亚马逊的老板早就盯着这个大合同了。 等他走后正好瓜分合同，那些SPACE X的工作人员一样的可以跳槽好好干
还有，去了别的国家，他能招到跟美国市场上一样的人才吗？
美国成就了ELON，这些都是相互的事情
这次选举他的一些举措，很难回到以前了
偏执狂到了一定的程度： 天才在左，疯子在右
他花钱买选票应该是违法了
这么牛的人被踢走是美国损失， 还沾沾自喜。。。
这还不简单。。犯法了，直接收缴全部财产，立马就是首负了
美国制度应该不会这样
但是，不知道因为他的这些事情，如果最后股票大跌，股东们是不是可以告他
美国早就说特斯拉不行，美国也从来不认为有商业航天。
只有中共口吻，谁谁谁都是被什么什么成就的。
确实是国内的
之前的FB联合创始人，为了逃税，抛弃美国国籍换成了新加坡国籍。
你是共產黨嗎
我以为LZ已经带人守住他家门口了
别担心，CIA不会让他活着离开美国的。
大多数留学生都是守法公民， 不会非法打工的..
就是马斯克不是美国籍，他活动在美国，收入在美国，一样给美国交税。
而且，避税手段少了，不能像川普那样只交$750一年了。
看是什么时候出国的 - 1980s ～ 1990s，国内一个月平均工资～200 元相当于30美元，所以有机会的都打黑工。
朱党还不如狠抓毒贩;否则更多吸大嘛导致人格障碍的大佬都要疯起来
合理避税的方法很多，征税的起征点不是看top line比如说收入，而是看buttom line净利润。你说“他活动在美国，收入在美国，照样给美国交税"是对美国税法有些误解并不准确。 高净值人群可以利用合法的税收筹划手段来降低税负，例如通过投资、慈善捐赠、使用信托、或设立公司结构来减少税负。
如果拥有其他国籍，马斯克避税方法可以更好。所以有些人幸灾乐祸马斯克失去国籍的，别人说不定过得更好。世界首富还需要你操心？
Wow, 一顶大帽子扣下来，就如攻击选HARRIS的都是吃福利的手段一样。如此熟悉的手段🤣
当然，你是弯弯OR法轮的话，任何不支持TRUMP的人，在你们这些人眼里都可以这样攻击，翻来覆去的没啥新意😂。在美国生活这么多年，也就网上能看到这种骂街大爷大妈的发言。你们到底是什么样的一群人，才一天到晚脑子里都是意识形态？你们是肉身在美国生活的人吗？
能不能不要这么LOW？还没有上台，就准备好扣帽子抄家了？
然后指望川普大赫？
你该是不知道马斯克的生意赚钱在哪里。
他卖的车，在美国生产，一辆车政府给他补助很多的钱。（我知道具体数字。）没有这个补助你看看他的利润，有吗？
他一旦不是美国籍，他能有top clearance? SpaceX,星链他会失去控制。
其他什么AI等他也靠着是美国企业，如何不是的话，芯片供应有他好受。
而且你和其他粉们有一点很相像。就是只要是首富，首脑，自己就像没有脑子一样： 首富的话当然是真理，没有他富就别bb.
Law and order
希望彻底查清楚马斯克是不是非法工作了。
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/us/elon-musk-immigration-washington-post-cec/index.html
脱籍后任何尚未变现的美国资产都要视同变现，需缴纳相当的税款。
一万个假如真发生了 可以加入中国籍呀 带着钱和技术去中国， 看看美国干不干
那他去墨西哥边境走过来不就有身份了，美国这个制度真的让人琢磨不透。
违法犯罪还不让管了
那么多小心翼翼保持身份的的合法移民，支持这种行为，是对拿F1来的合法移民的侮辱
你说我不知道马斯克生意赚钱在哪里？你知道。不管中国还有美国，大多数企业只是享受补助，拿到补助后，根本不敢花钱大胆的尝试和创新。请问您怎么看？
美国有许多公民和公司也享有政府补贴，但并非人人都能成为马斯克？按你答题的逻辑来判断你的智商，显示出你有脑子？
马斯克有他自己的独特眼光，远高于常人的执行力和顶级冒险家精神，马斯克是拿了补助，但也抓住了电动汽车和航空产业的空白，迅速推动技术革新，突破以往的科技局限。首富也在美国创造了大量就业机会和市场机会，对美国政府而言，不是互相成就和共赢吗？
请问你的智商在哪里？
你说的芯片供应问题，以他现在的实力和技术你觉得他无法找到替代方案。虽然美国的供应量确实给他带了不少便利，别人已经在其他地区建立工厂等等分散风险，确保全球布局，一般人都知道一个篮子不能装全部的鸡蛋，你以为首富不知道？
政府的补助是天时地利，但首富的成功更多是来自于他在技术上的创新，冒险精神，和市场敏锐度。市场对马斯克本人也是极为认可的。
首富的原罪不就是支持了川普，引得一些极左脑残粉极为不满，见不得首富好呗。你为什么就不愿意承认你作为极左的狭隘呢？
他有啥芯片，就是个组装。。
不是美国籍，就没有clearance,就没有NASA合同。
哪里是见不得他好，是见不得有人一看是首富，首脑，就觉得他都对，不能质疑. 这不就是你说的吗？
独裁都有人开始舔了，做二等人也很好，首富就是真理，别bb。 这样的粉这几天看到好几个
动不动就是“你觉得首富不知道”,好可笑。
你该回中国，那里有人没人不崇拜，没人会说no。
L8在哪里?
啊? 啥意思没有美国国籍就不用交税? 😂
搞笑, 他有毛的技术, 那些技术都是美国资产. 带的走?
那George Soros、Alex Soros和Bill Gates也一起进去吧。话说你们怎么不谴责一下 George Soros? Antifa打砸抢就是他在后面支持的。最近FCC违反常规让他买200多个电台怎么也没人说一下？
美国又没有剥夺政治权利一说