witmail2024-10-26 00:450 2024 Elections‘Don’t blame us, blame yourself’: Furious at Harris, Arab Americans in Michigan face a hard choiceSome Arab Americans see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. Pro-Palestinian voters have been consistently disappointed that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t split with President Joe Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jose Luis Magana/APByIrie Sentner10/23/2024 10:00 AM EDTKamala Harris’ campaign is facing deep skepticism from Arab American voters in Michigan, many of whom are appalled by President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in the Middle East and remain undecided about whether to back a candidate who supports his policies.With early voting already underway, Arab American voters say they are disappointed that Harris has not broken with Biden over Israel’s conduct of the war. Some regard her as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon, which has targeted Hamas and Hezbollah while inflicting terrible damage on civilians.Harris and former President Donald Trump areneck and neck in Michigan, which has an Arab American population of nearly 400,000, according to the Arab American Institute, mostly concentrated outside Detroit. Those voters showed up for Democrats in 2020, helping deliver the state to President Joe Biden.But less than two weeks from Election Day, the escalating war in the Middle East looms large for many Arab Americans, who see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. And they’ve been consistently disappointed that Harris hasn’t split with Biden over the war.“People are really right now in a dilemma. They really don’t know where to go. It’s like somebody hit them with a two by four, right on their head,” said Osama Siblani, the publisher of an Arab American newspaper based in Dearborn, Michigan. “So now they’re in total disarray. They may vote for Donald Trump, just to punish Biden and Harris, just to say, ‘Look what you’ve done.’” Kamala Harris speaks during a town hall at the Royal Oak Theatre in Royal Oak, Michigan, on Oct. 21. Arab American voters are disappointed the vice president hasn't split from Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jacquelyn Martin/APHarris and Trump are in a virtual tie among Arab American voters nationally, according to apoll released earlier this monthby the Arab American Institute, leaving the vice president 18 points behind Biden’s level of support in 2020.Arab Americans have leaned Democratic for decades, according to James Zogby, president of the Institute, which has polled Arab Americans since the 1990s. The shift, he said, was purely Harris’ fault.“What I’ve been saying to the campaign since the beginning: Don’t blame us, blame yourself,” said Zogby, a 31-year veteran of the Democratic National Committee and the current chair of its Ethnic Council.In a statement to POLITICO, Nasrina Bargzie, director of Muslim and Arab American Outreach for Harris’ campaign, said Harris was “committed to work to earn every vote” and “steadfast in her support of our country’s diverse Muslim community.”The vice president, Bargzie said, “will continue working to bring the war in Gaza to an end in a way where Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.” And in reference to Israel’s military actions against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Bargzie said Harris “is also working to address the suffering in Lebanon and bring about a diplomatic solution and ensure de-escalation and stability in Lebanon and the region.”‘I’m speaking’: Harris claps back at Gaza protestersShare[iPlay VideoHarris is seen by some voters as being harder on right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and more sympathetic to Palestinians than both Biden and Trump, who established atravel ban from several Muslim-majority countrieswhen he was president and whose son-in-law,Jared Kushner, has called Gaza“valuable” “waterfront property.” While Trump is an ally of Netanyahu, he hasleveled pointed criticismagainst the Israeli prime minister, even in the immediate aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks.📣 Want more POLITICO? Download our mobile app to save stories, get notifications and more. IniOSorAndroid.Last week, Harrissaid on Xthat “International humanitarian law must be respected,” blasting Israel for “UN reports that no food has entered northern Gaza in nearly 2 weeks.” She has been endorsed by aleading imam in Detroitand ahandful of local leadersin Dearborn and Hamtramck, Michigan, which has an all-Muslim city council — thoughHamtramck’s mayor has endorsed Trump.And during a swing through the state earlier this month, Harris huddled with Muslim American and Arab Americancommunity leaders in Flint— and extended the meeting to 20 minutes instead of the scheduled 10. (Zogby, who is based in Washington, said he’d been invited to that meeting to speak to the vice president for “one minute.” He declined.)“Frankly, it wasn’t that I needed to talk to her,” Zogby said. “I need her to talk to the community in a public way to say she understands their frustration and their concern, and that hasn’t been done.”Democrats arejittery about Harris’ chances in Michigan, a state the party swept in 2022, in part because of her unpopularity with Arab American voters.The Arab American PAC, a Dearborn-based PAC with which Siblani is involved that typically endorses Democrats,declined to endorseeither Harris or Trump on Monday, writing: “This year, we face a choice of two candidates who are harming our communities here and our families and friends in our homelands.”Neither did theUncommitted National Movement, a Michigan-based pro-Palestinian group that advocated for a protest non-vote against Biden in the Democratic primary. Last month, Uncommittedreleased a statementsaying it “opposes a Donald Trump presidency” and “is not recommending a third-party vote,” but still said “Harris’s unwillingness to shift on unconditional weapons policy … has made it impossible for us to endorep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress — represents Dearborn’s district. She held a sign reading "War Criminal" during Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress on July 24. | J. Scott Applewhite/APAnd Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress, who represents Dearborn’s district and whose sister, Layla Elabed, is an Uncommitted co-founder — is alsowithholding her endorsement. Tlaib and Elabed did not respond to requests for comment.Siblani, who was in the room as the Arab American PAC decided on its non-endorsement, called Trump “a very dangerous man.” But, he said, the war in th
回复 59楼 湄南河畔的小熊猫 的帖子 密西根的arab社区分裂了。有的挺川，有的挺哈 At the Suburban Collection Showplace, 46100 Grand River Ave., a group of Muslim imams from the Michigan Chapter of the Arab American Bar Association took the stage to endorse Trump, expressing their support for his stance on ending the wars in the Middle East. Harris has also received endorsements from Michigan Arab leaders, including Detroit Imam Mikail Stewart Saadiq, three Hamtramck city councilmen, the Black Muslim Leadership Council, Dearborn Democratic Club President Sami Khaldi and the deputy county executives of both Oakland and Wayne counties. Harris met with Arab and Muslim leaders in Flint earlier in October.
CatFatCat 发表于 2024-10-26 22:52 回复 59楼 湄南河畔的小熊猫 的帖子 密西根的arab社区分裂了。有的挺川，有的挺哈 At the Suburban Collection Showplace, 46100 Grand River Ave., a group of Muslim imams from the Michigan Chapter of the Arab American Bar Association took the stage to endorse Trump, expressing their support for his stance on ending the wars in the Middle East. Harris has also received endorsements from Michigan Arab leaders, including Detroit Imam Mikail Stewart Saadiq, three Hamtramck city councilmen, the Black Muslim Leadership Council, Dearborn Democratic Club President Sami Khaldi and the deputy county executives of both Oakland and Wayne counties. Harris met with Arab and Muslim leaders in Flint earlier in October.
CatFatCat 发表于 2024-10-26 22:52 回复 59楼 湄南河畔的小熊猫 的帖子 密西根的arab社区分裂了。有的挺川，有的挺哈 At the Suburban Collection Showplace, 46100 Grand River Ave., a group of Muslim imams from the Michigan Chapter of the Arab American Bar Association took the stage to endorse Trump, expressing their support for his stance on ending the wars in the Middle East. Harris has also received endorsements from Michigan Arab leaders, including Detroit Imam Mikail Stewart Saadiq, three Hamtramck city councilmen, the Black Muslim Leadership Council, Dearborn Democratic Club President Sami Khaldi and the deputy county executives of both Oakland and Wayne counties. Harris met with Arab and Muslim leaders in Flint earlier in October.
川普Vance牌子只看见一个，但是插川普牌子那家非常高调，还同时扯一面Trump旗帜。门口停一辆福特皮卡，男主人像是干体力活的WASP白人。
嗯, "插川普牌子那家非常高调" , 很有意思的特点. 我们这一样, 大部份人都没表示, 只要有Trump 牌子的, 都装饰得象Hallowen 一样, 有横幅, 还有trump名字的彩带把门口所有的柱子都包上了, 就差彩灯了.
0 Harris的牌子, 不过我们这算粉红, 每次也有40%左右的民主党的票, 支持民主党的胆子都太小了.
其实我很佩服那些插Harris牌子的。我家犹豫再三，没敢插牌子，害怕川粉半夜砸窗户。
我们这边都是乡下才有trump的牌子 城里有Harris的牌子和车子，trump的见不到 就是城里蓝，村里红，到处都差不多
还是小心一点好，今年大选比较危险，比四年前危险很多。
推论，今年的民调也不准，都不敢说真话
post-08民主党就是学不会这一点
阿拉伯人穆斯林指望川普，无异于与虎谋皮。希望华人更聪明。
嗯，开皮卡，挂国旗，都是标配
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不好说，如果大比分决出胜负还行，如果川普输了比分还接近，闹几个月是至少的
Kamala的牌子没见过，只见过Harris的牌子。
好像格式都一样 Harris Walz 蓝色上下排列
闹也没有用啊。就是内耗。
现在双方情绪冲突很厉害，看了脑仁疼。我总体觉得钱🌹得太多了。
不是label，也没有贬义，就是发现了几个川普粉丝的特点
看来各地情况差不多
很多很cute的
我邻居的牌子很隐晦，就写着Madam President
至于家门口，基本没人插牌子，偶尔有trump的，但家门口竖harris的没有。
你们那边川粉真霸道
太艺术了，都看不懂了😃
我觉得川粉和皮卡迷的重合率应该蛮高的
ChatGPT 太聪明了，“Kamala for President 2024” could, in shorthand or stylized form, become “, la for president 2024.”
川粉还有一个特点是拥枪，不过不那么显性
就是说这么平常的事，开个车，挂个旗，都会成为特点，至于嘛。
真的有可能。就看那些华川粉在微信群里骂lgbt的样子就知道。
一定要小心身边的华人川粉，这些人渣会狗急跳墙
这个牌子，都是放屁。没有用的。
其实，主要是Michigan。
40万， 阿拉伯Muslim。 土豪们刚刚 endorsed trump。 如果 就是 30% 阿拉伯Muslim 投票 trump， Harris 肯定没有细了
你没看今天转发的密歇根穆斯林公开信？已经辟谣了，穆斯林坚决支持哈里斯，让川普见鬼去吧
你别跟他计较，说了很多次了，他就是吹牛密西根穆斯林人数
谎话说多了，自己都信了
别致有创意！
北加州好学区；没看见一个trump牌子
这次的哈姐也挺 fun 的，另一种type 的fun.
他们根本不是指望什么和平，就是不能接受女人当总统罢了 话说民主党这些年把古巴的罪犯、非世俗派穆斯林弄进来也算是搬起石头砸自己脚了
亚利桑那的穆斯林发的信吧？密西根的我查了一下，没看到新闻。
密西根的arab社区分裂了。有的挺川，有的挺哈 At the Suburban Collection Showplace, 46100 Grand River Ave., a group of Muslim imams from the Michigan Chapter of the Arab American Bar Association took the stage to endorse Trump, expressing their support for his stance on ending the wars in the Middle East. Harris has also received endorsements from Michigan Arab leaders, including Detroit Imam Mikail Stewart Saadiq, three Hamtramck city councilmen, the Black Muslim Leadership Council, Dearborn Democratic Club President Sami Khaldi and the deputy county executives of both Oakland and Wayne counties. Harris met with Arab and Muslim leaders in Flint earlier in October.
不是说30% harris， 30% 第三方，11% trump，其他还在观望bibi是否停战
谢谢啦。
哦 原来世界第一霸主美国的民选总统就被一个中等州的几十万（有没有这数还不好说）阿拉伯穆斯林决定了 穆斯林这怎么还没统治全世界啊 还被以色列骑脖子上打呢
AZ 的Muslim根本没有用， 不影响AZ 的 结果。
一厢情愿没有用的。
是Michigan。 Google Michigan阿拉伯Muslim。 今天的 trump rally。 阿拉伯Muslim， endorsed trump。。 到底可能有多少， 肯定比白等少很多很多。
你们这些笨蛋， 所以会落后。
👍哈哈，昨天我看到那些人使劲说密歇根的支持trump，就知道密歇根的MUSLIM要出来发表支持Harris的讲话了
这些都是MAGA为某种情况做的伏笔，可惜被大家看穿了
这是什么狗屁逻辑？左右一个馒头算饱？ 这样算的话，用不着看今年也不用几万个阿拉伯移民。按你的逻辑，2000年的时候美国总统就是佛罗里达几百个古巴移民决定的。
你仔细看看好吗 这确实是狗屁逻辑 可惜不是我的逻辑
不要意思哈，误伤了，//bow
害怕被极端川粉砸窗户。
把新闻发出来看看。最近看了版上川粉说的什么民主党让三五岁的孩子开始变性，黑人98%支持民主党之类的屁话，川粉说的话如果没有正经媒体报道的链接，标点符号都不能信
美国这种古老的electoral college 制度还真有时候是古巴几百名移民推小布什上台。如果真是一人一票，就Donnie 连输两次popular vote 的尿性，真不会有人再让他出来选。