2024 Elections ‘Don’t blame us, blame yourself’: Furious at Harris, Arab Americans in Michigan face a hard choice Some Arab Americans see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. Pro-Palestinian voters have been consistently disappointed that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t split with President Joe Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jose Luis Magana/AP By Irie Sentner 10/23/2024 10:00 AM EDT
Kamala Harris’ campaign is facing deep skepticism from Arab American voters in Michigan, many of whom are appalled by President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in the Middle East and remain undecided about whether to back a candidate who supports his policies. With early voting already underway, Arab American voters say they are disappointed that Harris has not broken with Biden over Israel’s conduct of the war. Some regard her as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon, which has targeted Hamas and Hezbollah while inflicting terrible damage on civilians.
Harris and former President Donald Trump are neck and neck in Michigan, which has an Arab American population of nearly 400,000, according to the Arab American Institute, mostly concentrated outside Detroit. Those voters showed up for Democrats in 2020, helping deliver the state to President Joe Biden. But less than two weeks from Election Day, the escalating war in the Middle East looms large for many Arab Americans, who see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. And they’ve been consistently disappointed that Harris hasn’t split with Biden over the war. “People are really right now in a dilemma. They really don’t know where to go. It’s like somebody hit them with a two by four, right on their head,” said Osama Siblani, the publisher of an Arab American newspaper based in Dearborn, Michigan. “So now they’re in total disarray. They may vote for Donald Trump, just to punish Biden and Harris, just to say, ‘Look what you’ve done.’” Kamala Harris speaks during a town hall at the Royal Oak Theatre in Royal Oak, Michigan, on Oct. 21. Arab American voters are disappointed the vice president hasn't split from Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jacquelyn Martin/AP Harris and Trump are in a virtual tie among Arab American voters nationally, according to a poll released earlier this month by the Arab American Institute, leaving the vice president 18 points behind Biden’s level of support in 2020. Arab Americans have leaned Democratic for decades, according to James Zogby, president of the Institute, which has polled Arab Americans since the 1990s. The shift, he said, was purely Harris’ fault. “What I’ve been saying to the campaign since the beginning: Don’t blame us, blame yourself,” said Zogby, a 31-year veteran of the Democratic National Committee and the current chair of its Ethnic Council. In a statement to POLITICO, Nasrina Bargzie, director of Muslim and Arab American Outreach for Harris’ campaign, said Harris was “committed to work to earn every vote” and “steadfast in her support of our country’s diverse Muslim community.” The vice president, Bargzie said, “will continue working to bring the war in Gaza to an end in a way where Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.” And in reference to Israel’s military actions against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Bargzie said Harris “is also working to address the suffering in Lebanon and bring about a diplomatic solution and ensure de-escalation and stability in Lebanon and the region.” ‘I’m speaking’: Harris claps back at Gaza protestersShare [i Play Video Harris is seen by some voters as being harder on right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and more sympathetic to Palestinians than both Biden and Trump, who established a travel ban from several Muslim-majority countries when he was president and whose son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has called Gaza “valuable” “waterfront property.” While Trump is an ally of Netanyahu, he has leveled pointed criticism against the Israeli prime minister, even in the immediate aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks. 📣 Want more POLITICO? Download our mobile app to save stories, get notifications and more. In iOS or Android. Last week, Harris said on X that “International humanitarian law must be respected,” blasting Israel for “UN reports that no food has entered northern Gaza in nearly 2 weeks.” She has been endorsed by a leading imam in Detroit and a handful of local leaders in Dearborn and Hamtramck, Michigan, which has an all-Muslim city council — though Hamtramck’s mayor has endorsed Trump. And during a swing through the state earlier this month, Harris huddled with Muslim American and Arab American community leaders in Flint — and extended the meeting to 20 minutes instead of the scheduled 10. (Zogby, who is based in Washington, said he’d been invited to that meeting to speak to the vice president for “one minute.” He declined.) “Frankly, it wasn’t that I needed to talk to her,” Zogby said. “I need her to talk to the community in a public way to say she understands their frustration and their concern, and that hasn’t been done.” Democrats are jittery about Harris’ chances in Michigan, a state the party swept in 2022, in part because of her unpopularity with Arab American voters. The Arab American PAC, a Dearborn-based PAC with which Siblani is involved that typically endorses Democrats, declined to endorse either Harris or Trump on Monday, writing: “This year, we face a choice of two candidates who are harming our communities here and our families and friends in our homelands.” Neither did the Uncommitted National Movement, a Michigan-based pro-Palestinian group that advocated for a protest non-vote against Biden in the Democratic primary. Last month, Uncommitted released a statement saying it “opposes a Donald Trump presidency” and “is not recommending a third-party vote,” but still said “Harris’s unwillingness to shift on unconditional weapons policy … has made it impossible for us to endorep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress — represents Dearborn’s district. She held a sign reading "War Criminal" during Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress on July 24. | J. Scott Applewhite/AP And Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress, who represents Dearborn’s district and whose sister, Layla Elabed, is an Uncommitted co-founder — is also withholding her endorsement. Tlaib and Elabed did not respond to requests for comment. Siblani, who was in the room as the Arab American PAC decided on its non-endorsement, called Trump “a very dangerous man.” But, he said, the war in th
愚蠢的Muslim果然在 Michigan endorsed trump。 如果 它们投票trump， Harris基本没戏。 还是支持以色列把它们全部打死打伤。 Michigan有 40万 阿拉伯Muslim。 2024 Elections‘Don’t blame us, blame yourself’: Furious at Harris, Arab Americans in Michigan face a hard choiceSome Arab Americans see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. Pro-Palestinian voters have been consistently disappointed that Vice President Kamala Harris hasn’t split with President Joe Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jose Luis Magana/APByIrie Sentner10/23/2024 10:00 AM EDTKamala Harris’ campaign is facing deep skepticism from Arab American voters in Michigan, many of whom are appalled by President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in the Middle East and remain undecided about whether to back a candidate who supports his policies.With early voting already underway, Arab American voters say they are disappointed that Harris has not broken with Biden over Israel’s conduct of the war. Some regard her as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon, which has targeted Hamas and Hezbollah while inflicting terrible damage on civilians.Harris and former President Donald Trump areneck and neck in Michigan, which has an Arab American population of nearly 400,000, according to the Arab American Institute, mostly concentrated outside Detroit. Those voters showed up for Democrats in 2020, helping deliver the state to President Joe Biden.But less than two weeks from Election Day, the escalating war in the Middle East looms large for many Arab Americans, who see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. And they’ve been consistently disappointed that Harris hasn’t split with Biden over the war.“People are really right now in a dilemma. They really don’t know where to go. It’s like somebody hit them with a two by four, right on their head,” said Osama Siblani, the publisher of an Arab American newspaper based in Dearborn, Michigan. “So now they’re in total disarray. They may vote for Donald Trump, just to punish Biden and Harris, just to say, ‘Look what you’ve done.’” Kamala Harris speaks during a town hall at the Royal Oak Theatre in Royal Oak, Michigan, on Oct. 21. Arab American voters are disappointed the vice president hasn't split from Biden over the war in the Middle East. | Jacquelyn Martin/APHarris and Trump are in a virtual tie among Arab American voters nationally, according to apoll released earlier this monthby the Arab American Institute, leaving the vice president 18 points behind Biden’s level of support in 2020.Arab Americans have leaned Democratic for decades, according to James Zogby, president of the Institute, which has polled Arab Americans since the 1990s. The shift, he said, was purely Harris’ fault.“What I’ve been saying to the campaign since the beginning: Don’t blame us, blame yourself,” said Zogby, a 31-year veteran of the Democratic National Committee and the current chair of its Ethnic Council.In a statement to POLITICO, Nasrina Bargzie, director of Muslim and Arab American Outreach for Harris’ campaign, said Harris was “committed to work to earn every vote” and “steadfast in her support of our country’s diverse Muslim community.”The vice president, Bargzie said, “will continue working to bring the war in Gaza to an end in a way where Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.” And in reference to Israel’s military actions against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Bargzie said Harris “is also working to address the suffering in Lebanon and bring about a diplomatic solution and ensure de-escalation and stability in Lebanon and the region.”‘I’m speaking’: Harris claps back at Gaza protestersShare[iPlay VideoHarris is seen by some voters as being harder on right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and more sympathetic to Palestinians than both Biden and Trump, who established atravel ban from several Muslim-majority countrieswhen he was president and whose son-in-law,Jared Kushner, has called Gaza“valuable” “waterfront property.” While Trump is an ally of Netanyahu, he hasleveled pointed criticismagainst the Israeli prime minister, even in the immediate aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks.📣 Want more POLITICO? Download our mobile app to save stories, get notifications and more. IniOSorAndroid.Last week, Harrissaid on Xthat “International humanitarian law must be respected,” blasting Israel for “UN reports that no food has entered northern Gaza in nearly 2 weeks.” She has been endorsed by aleading imam in Detroitand ahandful of local leadersin Dearborn and Hamtramck, Michigan, which has an all-Muslim city council — thoughHamtramck’s mayor has endorsed Trump.And during a swing through the state earlier this month, Harris huddled with Muslim American and Arab Americancommunity leaders in Flint— and extended the meeting to 20 minutes instead of the scheduled 10. (Zogby, who is based in Washington, said he’d been invited to that meeting to speak to the vice president for “one minute.” He declined.)“Frankly, it wasn’t that I needed to talk to her,” Zogby said. “I need her to talk to the community in a public way to say she understands their frustration and their concern, and that hasn’t been done.”Democrats arejittery about Harris’ chances in Michigan, a state the party swept in 2022, in part because of her unpopularity with Arab American voters.The Arab American PAC, a Dearborn-based PAC with which Siblani is involved that typically endorses Democrats,declined to endorseeither Harris or Trump on Monday, writing: “This year, we face a choice of two candidates who are harming our communities here and our families and friends in our homelands.”Neither did theUncommitted National Movement, a Michigan-based pro-Palestinian group that advocated for a protest non-vote against Biden in the Democratic primary. Last month, Uncommittedreleased a statementsaying it “opposes a Donald Trump presidency” and “is not recommending a third-party vote,” but still said “Harris’s unwillingness to shift on unconditional weapons policy … has made it impossible for us to endorep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress — represents Dearborn’s district. She held a sign reading "War Criminal" during Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress on July 24. | J. Scott Applewhite/APAnd Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress, who represents Dearborn’s district and whose sister, Layla Elabed, is an Uncommitted co-founder — is alsowithholding her endorsement. Tlaib and Elabed did not respond to requests for comment.Siblani, who was in the room as the Arab American PAC decided on its non-endorsement, called Trump “a very dangerous man.” But, he said, the war in th
中间选民都是跟她一样的傻子，惺惺相惜？
法国人民虽然嘴上逼逼，但是最后还是把极端右翼打入冷宫。
没去看热闹？听说昨天已经1.3米人的登记了
是的，认赌服输，不论民主独裁，尊重美国人民选择。不要大叫作弊就行。
今年微信上川粉到处传播，说民主党大量撕毁投给trump的邮寄投票。言之凿凿。还没输就开始给自己准备台阶了。
调查出来要是反转就可悲了，这个发生过
差不多吧。2016年的时候，不少中间选民相信了铺天盖地的宣传，没选“老巫婆”希拉里。这一次宣传的力度比上一次弱多了，而且选民们也有了经验，不那么容易被感动了。
2016年要是选了希拉里，美国会是另外一个样子。
2016年选了希拉里，整个世界都会是另外一个样子
希拉里是老牌政治家，decent的一个人，虽然也有强势等缺点。但她如果在台上，美国不会衰落的这么快。 川普一定会是史书上一个重要人物。是他一路把美国領向歧路。就这样，他还在奋力争取继续这样做的权力。
2024 Elections ‘Don’t blame us, blame yourself’: Furious at Harris, Arab Americans in Michigan face a hard choice Some Arab Americans see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon.
Kamala Harris’ campaign is facing deep skepticism from Arab American voters in Michigan, many of whom are appalled by President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in the Middle East and remain undecided about whether to back a candidate who supports his policies. With early voting already underway, Arab American voters say they are disappointed that Harris has not broken with Biden over Israel’s conduct of the war. Some regard her as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon, which has targeted Hamas and Hezbollah while inflicting terrible damage on civilians.
Harris and former President Donald Trump are neck and neck in Michigan, which has an Arab American population of nearly 400,000, according to the Arab American Institute, mostly concentrated outside Detroit. Those voters showed up for Democrats in 2020, helping deliver the state to President Joe Biden. But less than two weeks from Election Day, the escalating war in the Middle East looms large for many Arab Americans, who see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon. And they’ve been consistently disappointed that Harris hasn’t split with Biden over the war. “People are really right now in a dilemma. They really don’t know where to go. It’s like somebody hit them with a two by four, right on their head,” said Osama Siblani, the publisher of an Arab American newspaper based in Dearborn, Michigan. “So now they’re in total disarray. They may vote for Donald Trump, just to punish Biden and Harris, just to say, ‘Look what you’ve done.’”
“What I’ve been saying to the campaign since the beginning: Don’t blame us, blame yourself,” said Zogby, a 31-year veteran of the Democratic National Committee and the current chair of its Ethnic Council. In a statement to POLITICO, Nasrina Bargzie, director of Muslim and Arab American Outreach for Harris’ campaign, said Harris was “committed to work to earn every vote” and “steadfast in her support of our country’s diverse Muslim community.” The vice president, Bargzie said, “will continue working to bring the war in Gaza to an end in a way where Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.” And in reference to Israel’s military actions against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Bargzie said Harris “is also working to address the suffering in Lebanon and bring about a diplomatic solution and ensure de-escalation and stability in Lebanon and the region.”
‘I’m speaking’: Harris claps back at Gaza protesters Share [i
Play Video Harris is seen by some voters as being harder on right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and more sympathetic to Palestinians than both Biden and Trump, who established a travel ban from several Muslim-majority countries when he was president and whose son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has called Gaza “valuable” “waterfront property.” While Trump is an ally of Netanyahu, he has leveled pointed criticism against the Israeli prime minister, even in the immediate aftermath of the Oct. 7 attacks. 📣 Want more POLITICO? Download our mobile app to save stories, get notifications and more. In iOS or Android. Last week, Harris said on X that “International humanitarian law must be respected,” blasting Israel for “UN reports that no food has entered northern Gaza in nearly 2 weeks.” She has been endorsed by a leading imam in Detroit and a handful of local leaders in Dearborn and Hamtramck, Michigan, which has an all-Muslim city council — though Hamtramck’s mayor has endorsed Trump.
And during a swing through the state earlier this month, Harris huddled with Muslim American and Arab American community leaders in Flint — and extended the meeting to 20 minutes instead of the scheduled 10. (Zogby, who is based in Washington, said he’d been invited to that meeting to speak to the vice president for “one minute.” He declined.) “Frankly, it wasn’t that I needed to talk to her,” Zogby said. “I need her to talk to the community in a public way to say she understands their frustration and their concern, and that hasn’t been done.” Democrats are jittery about Harris’ chances in Michigan, a state the party swept in 2022, in part because of her unpopularity with Arab American voters. The Arab American PAC, a Dearborn-based PAC with which Siblani is involved that typically endorses Democrats, declined to endorse either Harris or Trump on Monday, writing: “This year, we face a choice of two candidates who are harming our communities here and our families and friends in our homelands.” Neither did the Uncommitted National Movement, a Michigan-based pro-Palestinian group that advocated for a protest non-vote against Biden in the Democratic primary. Last month, Uncommitted released a statement saying it “opposes a Donald Trump presidency” and “is not recommending a third-party vote,” but still said “Harris’s unwillingness to shift on unconditional weapons policy … has made it impossible for us to endorep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress — represents Dearborn’s district. She held a sign reading "War Criminal" during Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress on July 24. | J. Scott Applewhite/AP And Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib — the only Palestinian American member of Congress, who represents Dearborn’s district and whose sister, Layla Elabed, is an Uncommitted co-founder — is also withholding her endorsement. Tlaib and Elabed did not respond to requests for comment. Siblani, who was in the room as the Arab American PAC decided on its non-endorsement, called Trump “a very dangerous man.” But, he said, the war in th
中间选民稍微有人性，就不会选一个川普骗子
我也觉得。感觉川粉们其实也不是很自信的，已经开始找借口了。
金字塔式的社会结构，普选的结果就是双方比赛印钱买票，阿根廷#2
我是中间选民。过去这么多年，每次不支持的那一位就会败选。
对于中间选民来说，不是哪一位候选人有多强，而是哪一位实在太糟，无法忍受，不得不投另一位。
2016年，实在无法忍受民主党的性别和厕所案，所以Trump赢了。
2020年，实在无法忍受 Trump 的 low, 所以拜登赢了。
2024年，还是实在无法忍受 Trump 的 low, 独裁和对美国宪法和选举制度的践踏。同时也无法忍受川粉们的，毫无原则，邪教式的对邪教头子的追捧。川粉们闹腾的越厉害，中间选民越反感。所以 Trump 依然会输。
老祖宗从马车时代留下的传统，很难改了。
这次中间选民会决定大选。感觉上和2016年反过来，这次Harris的隐藏选票可能会比较多。
从民调看投哈里斯的R比投川普的D稍微多一点点，中间选民双方差不多，所以关键还是看摇摆州的turn out
我五月份用奇门遁甲看了一下，当时感觉拜登和川普比，川普上的可能性大。
后来拜登退选，再看Harris和川普，感觉双方都有可以赢的点。川普可能有轻微优势。但是即使赢也是小赢，不可能是大赢。
我虽然是希望川普赢，但是感觉四年也改变不了太多。谁赢最终都不影响小老百姓生活
是的，Harris最后能赢。她其实也不是一个很强的候选人，但是对手太差。2020年讨厌川普的人就挺多的，现在更多。堕胎法案得罪很多女人，俄乌战争挺普京又得罪很多乌粉，加上大嘴巴人品差。
历史上重要的人物是奥巴马，他让美国这列火车脱轨，之后无论是川普拜登以及未来都是火车行驶在旷野里
FBI已经发布声明说了那个川粉指控的视频是俄国亲自制作，在musk的twitter上面传播的
这是当年的契约啊。如果当年不同意这个契约，有的州就不同意加入了。
就好比你跟朋友开公司，注册每人50％股份，过了几年合伙人要求他的份额提高到60％，这可以吗？
根据#1民调AtlasIntel 最新报告，川普全国领先3%, 这是自1988年以来出现过的和党最大民调领先。
难怪川大嘴最近心情很好，哈哈姐怒了。
坐等看结果。
且不说祖宗成法是不是绝不能变，尤其是这种有违国父们理念的恶法。。。 只说开国时的契约，内战时期南方各州已经把契约撕毁了。
对， 中间选民决定大选的最终结果。 两党的基本盘基本不大会改变。
川普不出意外， 这次又会输。 川粉们又要被打脸。
这个川粉也信？川普何德何能比 2020 大踏步飙升？ 2000年后共和党仅在 2004年小布什连任全国选票数赢过，其他次选举全输。 这次胜负还在 PA WI MI 三州双方poll 平均差距半个百分点以内，内华达虽然也很近但只有6张选举人票。
所以，你的公司合伙人可以任意破坏契约踢走你？
你投谁是根据民调结果？
这只能说明你无知，自己去了解一下最准的民调。
你信什么随你便，关我什么事。
即使用你的average national poll 哈哈姐领先1.4，也是打脸证明哈哈嬴率极低。 自已看图吧。
国父是借鉴了历史，为了避免罗马后来多数人对少数人的暴政，没有用直选。
一码归一码，讲胜率是胜率讲谁能获得更多全国选票是另一回事。
按照你信的最准POLL 川董上台可能性100%了， 那还不卖房子赶紧下注 all in，还得赶紧去买鞭炮去晚了被别的川粉买光了
节省竞选经费
借你吉言🙏🙏🙏
哈粉不慌，哈哈姐still can will
坐等哈哈曲线
嗯， 2020 年民主党数票数得好
let's see
握手🤝 我也是一样的。
骂别人傻子是什么病？
愚蠢的Muslim果然在 Michigan endorsed trump。
如果 它们投票trump， Harris基本没戏。
还是支持以色列把它们全部打死打伤。 Michigan有 40万 阿拉伯Muslim。
2024 Elections‘Don’t blame us, blame yourself’: Furious at Harris, Arab Americans in Michigan face a hard choiceSome Arab Americans see Biden and Harris as complicit in Israel’s bombardment of Gaza and Lebanon.
还有啥好测的, 马上就知道真的结果了