Elon Musk转发的为什么支持Trump,求反方反驳

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helenhigh
楼主 (北美华人网)
引用Elon Musk在X上转发的一篇为什么Trump的论述。读来感觉也不无道理,本来要选Harris,看完又有些犹豫了。请大家反驳这里引述的观点。 “I can't stand Donald Trump. He is braggy, he insults people for no reason, and he is just a brutal personality. But my mind is made up. I'm voting for him and here's why: * He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not. * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him. * He will bring @RobertKennedyJr into his cabinet to Make American Healthy Again. He will finally get to the bottom of why our food companies are destroying the health of our children. * I'm sick of the way the media lies continuously about @realDonaldTrump, starting with the incessant racism claims. They are just nonsense. The latest thing I learned? He sent his plane to fly Nelson Mandela home after he was in jail with the U.S. wouldn't do it. Racist? No. * I'm sick of the U.S. being embroiled in foreign wars. Trump will keep us out of them again. He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him.
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.
* Trump will end the nonsense of the open border which makes our country less secure, less financially stable, and brings in millions of people illegally who compete for Americans' jobs.
* This government has to print billions to care for the illegals. That makes all of our dollars less valuable and makes prices zoom upward.
* He will stockpile Bitcoin.
* He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports.
* He is a heavyweight personality and negotiator. Kamala is a phony personality and a lightweight negotiator. * The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for pronouns, masks, endless vaccines, cancel culture, riots, blatant racism towards whites, gender confusion, undermining the U.S. constitution.
* He will upset the current political system. He was nearly the victim of assassination 3x. And he keeps going. He's not the best in interviews, but he at least puts himself out there. Over and over and over. Kamala hasn't done a single press conference.
* Harris and the media trying to prop her up hid Biden's cognitive decline. They accuse @realDonaldTrump of being a threat to democracy. Yet she was installed as the nominee with no votes. She wants to pack the Supreme Court. She wants to eliminate the filibuster. She sued @RobertKennedyJr to keep him off the ballot. And the threat to democracy is Trump? Nonsense. * Those who support Harris look at Trump supports as vile, stupid, ignorant, and fascists. They disown family members or disinvite them from Thanksgiving dinner of they support Trump. This is disgraceful.
* Every time she talks, I try to give her a chance. But she is the most phony and condescending politician I have ever seen. Ever. I can't do it. I won't do it.
* She and those who support her are resistant to Voter ID and believe requiring an ID is racist. Her Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia for trying to purge the voter rolls of illegals. Why would we not want 1 vote per 1 U.S. citizen? Is it more racist to believe people from the inner city are perfectly capable of securing a government issued ID? Or to believe they are incapable?”
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gokgs
Musk, please bring Trump to Mars with you, thanks!
珠箔飘灯
全部是结论,没有任何论证过程,等于一个自大狂在那儿喊“我都对都对”,这怎么反驳?
现在我也列个十几条: (1) Elon Musk是骗子 (2)Trump是大骗子 (3) 。。。
你打算怎么反驳?
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crazyHat
一堆屎,然后问别人:你怎么证明这些是臭的呢?
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Blueocean23
gokgs 发表于 2024-10-17 20:43
Musk, please bring Trump to Mars with you, thanks!

哈哈,nice👍
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Harenough
好搞笑的论点。。。
其中的一条He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports. 川普不让男人进女卫生间。。。。
结果他自己等女生脱衣服的时候进去了,有录像录音的喔。
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Blueocean23
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
又来一个本来要选Harris的
笑死,看看Elon说的这条😂🤣 * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him
珠箔飘灯
Harenough 发表于 2024-10-17 20:47
好搞笑的论点。。。
其中的一条He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports. 川普不让男人进女卫生间。。。。
结果他自己等女生脱衣服的时候进去了,有录像录音的喔。

🤣
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Silverwing
helenhigh 发表于 2024-10-17 20:39
引用Elon Musk在X上转发的一篇为什么Trump的论述。读来感觉也不无道理,本来要选Harris,看完又有些犹豫了。请大家反驳这里引述的观点。 “I can't stand Donald Trump. He is braggy, he insults people for no reason, and he is just a brutal personality. But my mind is made up. I'm voting for him and here's why: * He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not. * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him. * He will bring @RobertKennedyJr into his cabinet to Make American Healthy Again. He will finally get to the bottom of why our food companies are destroying the health of our children. * I'm sick of the way the media lies continuously about @realDonaldTrump, starting with the incessant racism claims. They are just nonsense. The latest thing I learned? He sent his plane to fly Nelson Mandela home after he was in jail with the U.S. wouldn't do it. Racist? No. * I'm sick of the U.S. being embroiled in foreign wars. Trump will keep us out of them again. He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him.
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.
* Trump will end the nonsense of the open border which makes our country less secure, less financially stable, and brings in millions of people illegally who compete for Americans' jobs.
* This government has to print billions to care for the illegals. That makes all of our dollars less valuable and makes prices zoom upward.
* He will stockpile Bitcoin.
* He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports.
* He is a heavyweight personality and negotiator. Kamala is a phony personality and a lightweight negotiator. * The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for pronouns, masks, endless vaccines, cancel culture, riots, blatant racism towards whites, gender confusion, undermining the U.S. constitution.
* He will upset the current political system. He was nearly the victim of assassination 3x. And he keeps going. He's not the best in interviews, but he at least puts himself out there. Over and over and over. Kamala hasn't done a single press conference.
* Harris and the media trying to prop her up hid Biden's cognitive decline. They accuse @realDonaldTrump of being a threat to democracy. Yet she was installed as the nominee with no votes. She wants to pack the Supreme Court. She wants to eliminate the filibuster. She sued @RobertKennedyJr to keep him off the ballot. And the threat to democracy is Trump? Nonsense. * Those who support Harris look at Trump supports as vile, stupid, ignorant, and fascists. They disown family members or disinvite them from Thanksgiving dinner of they support Trump. This is disgraceful.
* Every time she talks, I try to give her a chance. But she is the most phony and condescending politician I have ever seen. Ever. I can't do it. I won't do it.
* She and those who support her are resistant to Voter ID and believe requiring an ID is racist. Her Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia for trying to purge the voter rolls of illegals. Why would we not want 1 vote per 1 U.S. citizen? Is it more racist to believe people from the inner city are perfectly capable of securing a government issued ID? Or to believe they are incapable?”

因为我是华人
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Everglades
别想那么多,就想想你是不是病毒吧。另外,川普年纪也太大了。
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Harenough
He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not.
川普一年交$750的税,逃兵役,克扣工人工资,这种人还能把美国人放在他前面?每一条都有证据喔
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flyingforce
能被这堆话忽悠了犹豫是否改投的,坦白说智商偏低,当然很大可能楼主就是来带节奏的。
比如说了“Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.” 这种话怎么证明是真的?而且看川普的言论,大多数都是这个国家烂透了,需要他来拯救,啥时候他表示这个国家是好的了?
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Blueocean23
回复 6楼 Harenough 的帖子
😂而且台上四年Trump有没有把男女厕所弄好?
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bw376
Blueocean23 发表于 2024-10-17 20:48
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
又来一个本来要选HARRIS的
笑死,看看ELON说的这条😂🤣 * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him

想象一下两个自恋狂一起工作的样子,不出两天就会打起来。
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supersleeper
这货bb这么多,也真是为了MAGA白人至上大业操碎了心
一句话:为了更好敛财,MAGA会给中产加税,给巨富免税
两句话:为了迎接纳粹化的美国。这人对twitter和特斯拉员工的种种压榨恶行,放在中国都赶超福报资本家了。这货等MAGA掌权,就是把全美国twitter化
有风吹过窗棂
Harenough 发表于 2024-10-17 20:49
He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not.
川普一年交$750的税,逃兵役,克扣工人工资,这种人还能把美国人放在他前面?每一条都有证据喔

这么长,我就是看到你引用的这个地方就知道不用再看下去了。还puts Americans first、可笑至极
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robindog
回复 3楼 珠箔飘灯 的帖子
就是, 仔细读多, 但凡是 强烈结论的, 都是骗子, 或者都是屁股歪的。。。
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jc255
helenhigh 发表于 2024-10-17 20:39
引用Elon Musk在X上转发的一篇为什么Trump的论述。读来感觉也不无道理,本来要选Harris,看完又有些犹豫了。请大家反驳这里引述的观点。 “I can't stand Donald Trump. He is braggy, he insults people for no reason, and he is just a brutal personality. But my mind is made up. I'm voting for him and here's why: * He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not. * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him. * He will bring @RobertKennedyJr into his cabinet to Make American Healthy Again. He will finally get to the bottom of why our food companies are destroying the health of our children. * I'm sick of the way the media lies continuously about @realDonaldTrump, starting with the incessant racism claims. They are just nonsense. The latest thing I learned? He sent his plane to fly Nelson Mandela home after he was in jail with the U.S. wouldn't do it. Racist? No. * I'm sick of the U.S. being embroiled in foreign wars. Trump will keep us out of them again. He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him.
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.
* Trump will end the nonsense of the open border which makes our country less secure, less financially stable, and brings in millions of people illegally who compete for Americans' jobs.
* This government has to print billions to care for the illegals. That makes all of our dollars less valuable and makes prices zoom upward.
* He will stockpile Bitcoin.
* He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports.
* He is a heavyweight personality and negotiator. Kamala is a phony personality and a lightweight negotiator. * The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for pronouns, masks, endless vaccines, cancel culture, riots, blatant racism towards whites, gender confusion, undermining the U.S. constitution.
* He will upset the current political system. He was nearly the victim of assassination 3x. And he keeps going. He's not the best in interviews, but he at least puts himself out there. Over and over and over. Kamala hasn't done a single press conference.
* Harris and the media trying to prop her up hid Biden's cognitive decline. They accuse @realDonaldTrump of being a threat to democracy. Yet she was installed as the nominee with no votes. She wants to pack the Supreme Court. She wants to eliminate the filibuster. She sued @RobertKennedyJr to keep him off the ballot. And the threat to democracy is Trump? Nonsense. * Those who support Harris look at Trump supports as vile, stupid, ignorant, and fascists. They disown family members or disinvite them from Thanksgiving dinner of they support Trump. This is disgraceful.
* Every time she talks, I try to give her a chance. But she is the most phony and condescending politician I have ever seen. Ever. I can't do it. I won't do it.
* She and those who support her are resistant to Voter ID and believe requiring an ID is racist. Her Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia for trying to purge the voter rolls of illegals. Why would we not want 1 vote per 1 U.S. citizen? Is it more racist to believe people from the inner city are perfectly capable of securing a government issued ID? Or to believe they are incapable?”

哈哈,第一条就是反话吧,他puts America first, 就应该退出选举,让年轻GOP上。
不困不睡
有句老话是 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. 一条路走到黑的川粉请细品。
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Oddfunction
相信世界上最聪明人的选择
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gzzps
一龙是白皮,你是吗?
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mykid2008
gokgs 发表于 2024-10-17 20:43
Musk, please bring Trump to Mars with you, thanks!

Agree! I can donate 10 cents.
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louaci
racism towards white嘛,当年从南非逃出来发现美国也有这种倾向白男要起义啊。有色人种擦亮双眼吧。
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haoyaoguai
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
这个解释了为什么他押宝Trump. 而这些恰恰解释了为什么我们(who has a Chinese face)不应该押宝Trump. 最核心的问题是 is Trump a racist? or is Trump a 50% racist (racist to Chinese face)?
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HappyOrange888
就算他说的都对,可你是白皮吗?
人家构想的maga可不包括小黄人
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thymesu
原来网上传的黄大娘的裏脚布是他写的。
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faydevil
Harenough 发表于 2024-10-17 20:47
好搞笑的论点。。。
其中的一条He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports. 川普不让男人进女卫生间。。。。
结果他自己等女生脱衣服的时候进去了,有录像录音的喔。

还是miss America teens。 大妈只在乎变性人进女厕,不在乎富二代老男人炫耀自己去小女孩儿更衣室
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Ultra2000000000
纯粹好奇,一龙是不是4年后要竞选总统???
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tonner
因为这个家伙和trump一样就彻头彻尾把自己的利益和兴趣放在America 至上,还自诩高大
埃隆·马斯克对慈善事业的努力和对贫困的立场是复杂且有些争议的:
1. 马斯克确实进行了一些大额慈善捐赠,但这些捐赠往往与他自己的商业利益密切相关:
- 2021年,他向自己的慈善基金会——马斯克基金会——捐赠了价值57亿美元的特斯拉股票。
- 马斯克基金会向SpaceX设施附近的事业捐款,比如在德克萨斯州卡梅伦县(SpaceX发射场附近)为学校和市中心复兴捐赠了3000万美元。
- 一些捐款流向了与马斯克兴趣相符的项目,如向XPRIZE基金会捐赠1.12亿美元用于碳移除技术。
2. 马斯克对传统慈善表示怀疑:
- 他认为他的营利性企业(如特斯拉)比慈善事业对世界更有益。 - 他批评了其他亿万富翁的慈善捐赠,包括麦肯齐·斯科特的捐赠。
3. 人们对马斯克慈善事业的有效性和透明度存在担忧:
- 马斯克基金会因捐赠金额少于法律要求的获得税收优惠的最低限额而受到批评。 - 对于一个拥有数十亿资产的组织来说,其网站内容明显过于简单。
4. 马斯克曾就解决全球贫困问题进行公开辩论:
- 2021年,他挑战联合国世界粮食计划署解释60亿美元如何能解决世界饥饿问题,并表示如果他们能做到,他愿意出售特斯拉股票。 - 然而,当联合国提供了一个计划时,马斯克并没有兑现捐款承诺。
5. 一些人认为马斯克可以做得更多:
- 批评者指出,即使是他财富的一小部分也可能对全球问题(如能源贫困)产生巨大影响。 - 有人呼吁他增加慈善捐赠或支持政策倡导,以解决系统性问题。
总的来说,虽然马斯克确实进行了一些大额捐赠,但与他巨大的财富相比,他的慈善方式常被视为自私且有限。他似乎没有一个强烈、一致的立场直接帮助穷人,更倾向于专注于他的企业作为改善世界的手段。


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tonner
Elon, bring back Tesla China factory to USA!
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wswsn
supersleeper 发表于 2024-10-17 20:53
这货bb这么多,也真是为了MAGA白人至上大业操碎了心
一句话:为了更好敛财,MAGA会给中产加税,给巨富免税
两句话:为了迎接纳粹化的美国。这人对twitter和特斯拉员工的种种压榨恶行,放在中国都赶超福报资本家了。这货等MAGA掌权,就是把全美国twitter化

白人至上的社会街道干净社会和谐人人体面优雅 黑人和非移至上的社会呢?打砸抢烧,旧金山都变成啥样了
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supersleeper
tonner 发表于 2024-10-17 21:52
Elon, bring back Tesla China factory to USA!

你太为难那个人了
musk这货,你看它骂Biden骂Harris骂英国首相骂法国总统,骂澳洲总理,骂新西兰总理
但是 你看它骂过普金一句吗?骂过那谁主席一句吗?
这货是个什么嘴脸,竟然还能得到某些低IQ人群追捧,也是令人叹为观止
一年明月
马斯克很诚实,开宗明义就把他自己为什么选川总说出来了。
I am voting for him because…
He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him.
所以说,川总当选他是会上桌分红的人,有巨大的动机昧着良心帮川总说话。咱可不是,俺觉得咱们还是先想想自己是川总的客人还是川总桌上的菜再决定吧 🤣
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LAWay
helenhigh 发表于 2024-10-17 20:39
引用Elon Musk在X上转发的一篇为什么Trump的论述。读来感觉也不无道理,本来要选Harris,看完又有些犹豫了。请大家反驳这里引述的观点。 “I can't stand Donald Trump. He is braggy, he insults people for no reason, and he is just a brutal personality. But my mind is made up. I'm voting for him and here's why: * He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not. * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him. * He will bring @RobertKennedyJr into his cabinet to Make American Healthy Again. He will finally get to the bottom of why our food companies are destroying the health of our children. * I'm sick of the way the media lies continuously about @realDonaldTrump, starting with the incessant racism claims. They are just nonsense. The latest thing I learned? He sent his plane to fly Nelson Mandela home after he was in jail with the U.S. wouldn't do it. Racist? No. * I'm sick of the U.S. being embroiled in foreign wars. Trump will keep us out of them again. He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him.
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.
* Trump will end the nonsense of the open border which makes our country less secure, less financially stable, and brings in millions of people illegally who compete for Americans' jobs.
* This government has to print billions to care for the illegals. That makes all of our dollars less valuable and makes prices zoom upward.
* He will stockpile Bitcoin.
* He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports.
* He is a heavyweight personality and negotiator. Kamala is a phony personality and a lightweight negotiator. * The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for pronouns, masks, endless vaccines, cancel culture, riots, blatant racism towards whites, gender confusion, undermining the U.S. constitution.
* He will upset the current political system. He was nearly the victim of assassination 3x. And he keeps going. He's not the best in interviews, but he at least puts himself out there. Over and over and over. Kamala hasn't done a single press conference.
* Harris and the media trying to prop her up hid Biden's cognitive decline. They accuse @realDonaldTrump of being a threat to democracy. Yet she was installed as the nominee with no votes. She wants to pack the Supreme Court. She wants to eliminate the filibuster. She sued @RobertKennedyJr to keep him off the ballot. And the threat to democracy is Trump? Nonsense. * Those who support Harris look at Trump supports as vile, stupid, ignorant, and fascists. They disown family members or disinvite them from Thanksgiving dinner of they support Trump. This is disgraceful.
* Every time she talks, I try to give her a chance. But she is the most phony and condescending politician I have ever seen. Ever. I can't do it. I won't do it.
* She and those who support her are resistant to Voter ID and believe requiring an ID is racist. Her Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia for trying to purge the voter rolls of illegals. Why would we not want 1 vote per 1 U.S. citizen? Is it more racist to believe people from the inner city are perfectly capable of securing a government issued ID? Or to believe they are incapable?”

只是他说而已,基本无根无据,你认为值得反驳吗?
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mindstorm
一个在中国印刷圣经,一个在中国建最大电动车厂的两个人,竞选总统是为了把制造业转移回美国。。。。
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dami123
回复 32楼 wswsn 的帖子
体面优雅的白人至上,为啥川粉总有这种逆天的言论
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Blueocean23
Everglades 发表于 2024-10-17 20:49
别想那么多,就想想你是不是病毒吧。另外,川普年纪也太大了。

Elon蛊惑人心的力量没有川普强,毕竟还是搞科技出身的。 川普蛊惑人心的力量不是一般人能比的,历史会记录他这种大忽悠的能力。 他能蛊惑别人自己挖坑把自己给埋了,然后还留一笔钱给他😂
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Harenough
faydevil 发表于 2024-10-17 21:42
还是miss America teens。 大妈只在乎变性人进女厕,不在乎富二代老男人炫耀自己去小女孩儿更衣室

她们怎么会在乎!
如果是“体面优雅的富老白人”,她们不等那老白人进来,她们自己就裸奔出去迎接了!
简单
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
all in tsla!
爱吃烤鱼片
回复 3楼 珠箔飘灯 的帖子
说得好!两党的候选人都烂得透透的!
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ecko
第一条就是胡扯啊
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wswsn
回复 37楼 dami123 的帖子
南非白人统治的时候什么样子,现在黑人统治什么样子?
落地无声
Blueocean23 发表于 2024-10-17 22:16
Elon蛊惑人心的力量没有川普强,毕竟还是搞科技出身的。 川普蛊惑人心的力量不是一般人能比的,历史会记录他这种大忽悠的能力。 他能蛊惑别人自己挖坑把自己给埋了,然后还留一笔钱给他😂

邪教头么,当然有这力量
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thymesu
Elon电车自动驾驶需要政府放松regulation,不然他的电车这条财富大道就灭了。所以把宝压在老川身上。 川老头要为境外公民减税也可能是为自己将来可能移居外国未雨绸缪。
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thymesu
ecko 发表于 2024-10-17 22:43
第一条就是胡扯啊

他自己家机器人帮他写的。
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AprilBlue
我刚在这帖子里面21楼留个言 竟然被版主隐藏了 仅自己可见 呵呵哒 请问版主你到底在心虚个啥啊?要不要解释下我这个发言触犯哪条版规了呀?

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harper7
就算他说的全对, 但就老川的一张大嘴挑起对美华的仇恨一条就不能选他呀. 更何况他肯定接着纵容佛州德州那些极右翼继续出台反华法案, 美华生存空间本来就狭窄, 老川上台哪里还有活路呀。
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Namama

说一千到一万,马斯克是白人,我是亚裔, 所以我需要担心的东西,他不需要,就这么简单。。
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wormcc
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
“blatant racism towards whites” 可惜华人用户不是白人
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wormcc
wswsn 发表于 2024-10-17 21:55
白人至上的社会街道干净社会和谐人人体面优雅 黑人和非移至上的社会呢?打砸抢烧,旧金山都变成啥样了

白人至上的社会有排华法案你忘记了?
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awesomeiris
都没错,但是trump已经成了racism的icon。就冲这一点作为minority绝不能投他一票。
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zzou
两个都是垃圾。。。我选票收到好几天了,还没想好怎么选,真是两个垃圾。。。





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momo099
看热闹的(别国公民,没选票)来说一下为什么希望看到川普上台 1、人不在美国,相对不需要担心Racism的问题。同时,我认为这次川普不会再煽动对华裔的仇恨(但也不一定) 2、就好像看到打架不希望单边赢没有悬念一样,实际上民主党的作风非常强势,川普这些年被调查得体无完肤。但还是能出来选,说明啥?然后拜登看上去赢不了了,赶紧随便推一个人上来,“你必须买账”这种感觉太差了。 3、在发挥总统的实力方面,虽然川普也只是商人,但他已经做过四年,相信他多少能发挥一些正向的作用。哈哈姐真不行。如果拜总年轻四岁,可能也能好一些。 4、非法移民问题。民主档不用对川普喷口水了。“走线”这词什么时间火遍小红书的,互联网有记忆。 5、战争。乌克兰就是不自量力。不管美国是不是因为自己的利益而支持,祸害的是无辜老百姓。川普想要结束战争,应该支持。 7、关税。关税是双刃剑,但是至少可以尝试。现在工作岗位向其他国家转移是肆无忌惮了吧。川普上台至少可以稍微减缓这个趋势。 以上。
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momo099
如果真的对“民主“这个词有点看重的话,民主党在“谁比谁流氓”这个竞赛上可不见得输。只是漂亮话更会包装罢了。 都说共和党没有川普就可以选。我认为,不是川普这种强势撒泼打滚,主党必将“千秋万代,一统江湖”,还选个P。。
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wswsn 发表于 2024-10-17 21:55
白人至上的社会街道干净社会和谐人人体面优雅 黑人和非移至上的社会呢?打砸抢烧,旧金山都变成啥样了

白人至上的社会干净和谐人人体面?做梦吧
这是被洗脑洗成这样 能把皮肤也漂白了么
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lary2019
因为我是华人
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westlake
momo099 发表于 2024-10-18 10:14
看热闹的(别国公民,没选票)来说一下为什么希望看到川普上台 1、人不在美国,相对不需要担心Racism的问题。同时,我认为这次川普不会再煽动对华裔的仇恨(但也不一定) 2、就好像看到打架不希望单边赢没有悬念一样,实际上民主党的作风非常强势,川普这些年被调查得体无完肤。但还是能出来选,说明啥?然后拜登看上去赢不了了,赶紧随便推一个人上来,“你必须买账”这种感觉太差了。 3、在发挥总统的实力方面,虽然川普也只是商人,但他已经做过四年,相信他多少能发挥一些正向的作用。哈哈姐真不行。如果拜总年轻四岁,可能也能好一些。 4、非法移民问题。民主档不用对川普喷口水了。“走线”这词什么时间火遍小红书的,互联网有记忆。 5、战争。乌克兰就是不自量力。不管美国是不是因为自己的利益而支持,祸害的是无辜老百姓。川普想要结束战争,应该支持。 7、关税。关税是双刃剑,但是至少可以尝试。现在工作岗位向其他国家转移是肆无忌惮了吧。川普上台至少可以稍微减缓这个趋势。 以上。

没选票就别废话了,你也就是能在X上投个票的份儿
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westlake
wswsn 发表于 2024-10-17 21:55
白人至上的社会街道干净社会和谐人人体面优雅 黑人和非移至上的社会呢?打砸抢烧,旧金山都变成啥样了

白人社会这么好,你个非白人还不自绝于白人社会,还活着污染白人社会吗
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momo099
westlake 发表于 2024-10-18 10:43
没选票就别废话了,你也就是能在X上投个票的份儿

现在川普的选情可是不错。一半对一半。
咱就说,主党迷也别动不动拿自己当灯塔了,多累啊。
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westlake
Ultra2000000000 发表于 2024-10-17 21:48
纯粹好奇,一龙是不是4年后要竞选总统???

没他的份儿,他不是美国出生的
所以现在也就押宝川给他个内阁大臣当当,也就是他人生顶峰了
问个问题
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil. 看到这条笑了。。。
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maaagiaaa2004
Musk一白皮+亿万富翁,他的意见对我们参考性不大。
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kwxr
supersleeper 发表于 2024-10-17 20:53
这货bb这么多,也真是为了MAGA白人至上大业操碎了心
一句话:为了更好敛财,MAGA会给中产加税,给巨富免税
两句话:为了迎接纳粹化的美国。这人对twitter和特斯拉员工的种种压榨恶行,放在中国都赶超福报资本家了。这货等MAGA掌权,就是把全美国twitter化

如果要和中国竞争,只能向996学习提高生产效率,还能怎么办?
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louaci
westlake 发表于 2024-10-18 10:45
白人社会这么好,你个非白人还不自绝于白人社会,还活着污染白人社会吗

.当年白人至上社会干净优雅时,华人挤在又脏又乱的中国城,不爽就被打一顿,后面平权法案之后慢慢亚裔才成为干净优雅一分子
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回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
第一条就错了,he puts white Americans first. 后面错不错的已经不值得反驳了,作为有色人种没有别的选择。他个人是不是真的是种族主义不讨论,但是他煽动了白人至上鼓励仇恨是事实,所以white boy Elon Musk可以支持他,我们不能。
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fantancyseeker
* He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him. 你让床铺去当个非洲总统,看看还有人屌他个川疯吗?这你嘛什么逻辑。
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GalQua
harper7 发表于 2024-10-18 00:37
就算他说的全对, 但就老川的一张大嘴挑起对美华的仇恨一条就不能选他呀. 更何况他肯定接着纵容佛州德州那些极右翼继续出台反华法案, 美华生存空间本来就狭窄, 老川上台哪里还有活路呀。

太同意了!咱们跟Elon Musk还有发帖的那个白人,不是一个种族。人家支持Trump是因为他提携白人。我们反对Trump是因为他歧视我们华人!不要被别人的逻辑忽悠了。别忘了华人的根本利益!
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jellynsyrup
珠箔飘灯 发表于 2024-10-17 20:43
全部是结论,没有任何论证过程,等于一个自大狂在那儿喊“我都对都对”,这怎么反驳?
现在我也列个十几条: (1) Elon Musk是骗子 (2)Trump是大骗子 (3) 。。。
你打算怎么反驳?

竟无法反驳
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daremighty
wswsn 发表于 2024-10-17 21:55
白人至上的社会街道干净社会和谐人人体面优雅 黑人和非移至上的社会呢?打砸抢烧,旧金山都变成啥样了

你喜欢全白人的地方应该去波兰啊,阿根廷这些地方,发达国家非白人太多了,不适合你。
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Blueocean23
GalQua 发表于 2024-10-18 14:23
太同意了!咱们跟Elon Musk还有发帖的那个白人,不是一个种族。人家支持Trump是因为他提携白人。我们反对Trump是因为他歧视我们华人!不要被别人的逻辑忽悠了。别忘了华人的根本利益!

而且网上可以看到,不支持trump的白人也有不少。 克林顿希拉里拜登都是白人,理性的教育程度高的白人支持Harris的比例很高。
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Mediterranean
Blueocean23 发表于 2024-10-18 14:37
而且网上可以看到,不支持trump的白人也有不少。 克林顿希拉里拜登都是白人,理性的教育程度高的白人支持Harris的比例很高。

这次民主党有希望近年来第一次赢白女选票(上两次川普赢6-7%)
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haidafu
就堕胎法案一项就可以永远不选川普和MAGA党了。看到前几天德州的新闻没有?即使你是男的,你没有女儿姐妹? 另外像副总统辩论时Walz说的,民主党提出的由保守派起草的收紧边境的提案,川普要想尽办法破坏掉不让国会通过。你还相信川普是美国优先?
焱焱
拉倒吧,扯那些有的没的,I'm voting for him 就一个原因: 因为我是白的!
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mylittle9
因为他是白人男子。

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xiaohetiao
前两天看到这个,觉得很好笑。美国的选举到现在,还真是有点ridiculous LOL

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jellynsyrup
wormcc 发表于 2024-10-18 08:40
白人至上的社会有排华法案你忘记了?

对ta来说,只要是白人至上的社会,即使被排华法案歧视也甘之如饴
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little_white
Trump 和 Harris 就是两坨屎,都不是好东西,都不是明确选项。那么如何投票就看谁的篮子里的卖点更切合你的利益。Trump至少是重商主义,如何把蛋糕做大,即使富豪拿大头,剩下的大家分分也比目前好些。Harris没有任何经济发展计划,一说经济就是给人发钱画大饼,而且不知道钱从哪来。拜登的免学贷已经是在破坏美国经济的基本信条,卡马拉上台只会把经济搞得更糟。其他诸如堕胎,变性之类社会问题两党半斤八两,都是臭不可闻。
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gokgs 发表于 2024-10-17 20:43
Musk, please bring Trump to Mars with you, thanks!

没忍住开怀大笑,层主有主见
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eda2k4
China virus居然还不够?这是得多爱当virus啊
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Blueocean23
little_white 发表于 2024-10-18 16:09
Trump 和 Harris 就是两坨屎,都不是好东西,都不是明确选项。那么如何投票就看谁的篮子里的卖点更切合你的利益。Trump至少是重商主义,如何把蛋糕做大,即使富豪拿大头,剩下的大家分分也比目前好些。Harris没有任何经济发展计划,一说经济就是给人发钱画大饼,而且不知道钱从哪来。拜登的免学贷已经是在破坏美国经济的基本信条,卡马拉上台只会把经济搞得更糟。其他诸如堕胎,变性之类社会问题两党半斤八两,都是臭不可闻。

打贸易战做大蛋糕😂?本来的蛋糕都被trump给切掉了,还做大,口头上忽悠做大吗😂
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little_white
美国的问题就是产业空心化,贸易战虽然不是最优解,但是遏制中国变态的公有/民营计划经济还是有效的。不打贸易战,中国对美国就是温水煮青蛙,现在就是惊觉从温水里跳出来的时候。打了贸易战是损人一千自损五百的招数。贸易战的后果明显对中国经济损害更大。中国的经济模式是不可持续的,要毁掉全世界的市场,最后大家除了垃圾货别无选择。而且中国会把全世界都卷的不得安生。 而且trump上台会把环保的紧箍咒解除,以及减少政府监管。
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jellynsyrup
little_white 发表于 2024-10-18 16:09
Trump 和 Harris 就是两坨屎,都不是好东西,都不是明确选项。那么如何投票就看谁的篮子里的卖点更切合你的利益。Trump至少是重商主义,如何把蛋糕做大,即使富豪拿大头,剩下的大家分分也比目前好些。Harris没有任何经济发展计划,一说经济就是给人发钱画大饼,而且不知道钱从哪来。拜登的免学贷已经是在破坏美国经济的基本信条,卡马拉上台只会把经济搞得更糟。其他诸如堕胎,变性之类社会问题两党半斤八两,都是臭不可闻。

难为你忍痛把川普叫做一坨💩
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little_white
难为你忍痛把川普叫做一坨💩
jellynsyrup 发表于 2024-10-18 17:47

我又不是川粉。不过就事论事。不知道川某人是不是grab you手劲大了点,戳中疼点了?
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Dailv22
westlake 发表于 2024-10-18 10:45
白人社会这么好,你个非白人还不自绝于白人社会,还活着污染白人社会吗

你还不赶紧去非洲, 那里最好
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lafyli
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
楼主估计小学毕业,脑子看着不好使的样子
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dami123
回复 88楼 little_white 的帖子
嗯嗯,还是疮粉比较耐grub,没有疼点,但是会乱咬,就跟pit bull一样。 疯狗恐光是最怕媒体揭露威胁要关闭反对媒体的那条老肥疯狗吗?
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sduser2015
回复 10楼 Everglades 的帖子
No one is good for these two.
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little_white
dami123 发表于 2024-10-18 18:38
回复 88楼 little_white 的帖子
嗯嗯,还是疮粉比较耐grub,没有疼点,但是会乱咬,就跟pit bull一样。 疯狗恐光是最怕媒体揭露威胁要关闭反对媒体的那条老肥疯狗吗?

$&@#%^*+#%^*+¥£>><~|\ 借用周星驰电影
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witmail
helenhigh 发表于 2024-10-17 20:39
引用Elon Musk在X上转发的一篇为什么Trump的论述。读来感觉也不无道理,本来要选Harris,看完又有些犹豫了。请大家反驳这里引述的观点。 “I can't stand Donald Trump. He is braggy, he insults people for no reason, and he is just a brutal personality. But my mind is made up. I'm voting for him and here's why: * He puts Americans and their well-being first. Kamala will not. * He will bring @elonmusk into his cabinet to be the efficiency czar and get rid of waste. This alone may be the best single reason to vote for him. * He will bring @RobertKennedyJr into his cabinet to Make American Healthy Again. He will finally get to the bottom of why our food companies are destroying the health of our children. * I'm sick of the way the media lies continuously about @realDonaldTrump, starting with the incessant racism claims. They are just nonsense. The latest thing I learned? He sent his plane to fly Nelson Mandela home after he was in jail with the U.S. wouldn't do it. Racist? No. * I'm sick of the U.S. being embroiled in foreign wars. Trump will keep us out of them again. He's just crazy enough that foreign nations will stand down. They have no fear of Kamala. They will fear him.
* Trump sees this country as fundamentally good. Kamala sees it as inherently evil.
* Trump will end the nonsense of the open border which makes our country less secure, less financially stable, and brings in millions of people illegally who compete for Americans' jobs.
* This government has to print billions to care for the illegals. That makes all of our dollars less valuable and makes prices zoom upward.
* He will stockpile Bitcoin.
* He will keep men out of women's bathrooms and women's sports.
* He is a heavyweight personality and negotiator. Kamala is a phony personality and a lightweight negotiator. * The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for pronouns, masks, endless vaccines, cancel culture, riots, blatant racism towards whites, gender confusion, undermining the U.S. constitution.
* He will upset the current political system. He was nearly the victim of assassination 3x. And he keeps going. He's not the best in interviews, but he at least puts himself out there. Over and over and over. Kamala hasn't done a single press conference.
* Harris and the media trying to prop her up hid Biden's cognitive decline. They accuse @realDonaldTrump of being a threat to democracy. Yet she was installed as the nominee with no votes. She wants to pack the Supreme Court. She wants to eliminate the filibuster. She sued @RobertKennedyJr to keep him off the ballot. And the threat to democracy is Trump? Nonsense. * Those who support Harris look at Trump supports as vile, stupid, ignorant, and fascists. They disown family members or disinvite them from Thanksgiving dinner of they support Trump. This is disgraceful.
* Every time she talks, I try to give her a chance. But she is the most phony and condescending politician I have ever seen. Ever. I can't do it. I won't do it.
* She and those who support her are resistant to Voter ID and believe requiring an ID is racist. Her Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia for trying to purge the voter rolls of illegals. Why would we not want 1 vote per 1 U.S. citizen? Is it more racist to believe people from the inner city are perfectly capable of securing a government issued ID? Or to believe they are incapable?”

God 说话啦,中国人支持trump, 全家进地狱。这个是最大理由。
trump的小罗罗,禁止中国人进大学学习stem专业, 禁止中国人投资美国房地产, China virus!!!
够不够?
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witmail
lafyli 发表于 2024-10-18 18:34
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
楼主估计小学毕业,脑子看着不好使的样子

你这个低估了它的智商,应该乡下人初中生,智商至少25!
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西北飘雪
这个板上一天没有一龙没有老船就过不下去了?这两个世界上最让人生厌的人啥时候能消停?
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西北飘雪
回复 1楼 helenhigh 的帖子
有啥说的,臭味相投。川普就是一团💩,也被支持者捧成美味赞不绝口。一龙和老船是最让人生厌的人,一丘之貉
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Silong006
The people who want Kamala Harris to win are the most annoying people in the country. They have pushed for .... blatant racism towards whites.
他才是种族主义者,在多个场合都说了要重振white civilization. 其实这个才是他们的所有一切的核心。
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awesomeiris
momo099 发表于 2024-10-18 10:14
看热闹的(别国公民,没选票)来说一下为什么希望看到川普上台 1、人不在美国,相对不需要担心Racism的问题。同时,我认为这次川普不会再煽动对华裔的仇恨(但也不一定) 2、就好像看到打架不希望单边赢没有悬念一样,实际上民主党的作风非常强势,川普这些年被调查得体无完肤。但还是能出来选,说明啥?然后拜登看上去赢不了了,赶紧随便推一个人上来,“你必须买账”这种感觉太差了。 3、在发挥总统的实力方面,虽然川普也只是商人,但他已经做过四年,相信他多少能发挥一些正向的作用。哈哈姐真不行。如果拜总年轻四岁,可能也能好一些。 4、非法移民问题。民主档不用对川普喷口水了。“走线”这词什么时间火遍小红书的,互联网有记忆。 5、战争。乌克兰就是不自量力。不管美国是不是因为自己的利益而支持,祸害的是无辜老百姓。川普想要结束战争,应该支持。 7、关税。关税是双刃剑,但是至少可以尝试。现在工作岗位向其他国家转移是肆无忌惮了吧。川普上台至少可以稍微减缓这个趋势。 以上。

觉得你说得很中肯,很理性。但是就第一条,trump靠煽动白人至上拉选票,会给minority造成现实生活的困扰。亚裔是minority中被双方都针对的群体。