Lum v rice判决，unanimous通过的哦 Chinese children do not meet the statutory definition of "White" and thus may lawfully be denied admission to schools reserved for children of that race only; attendance at school for Black students is constitutional as long as facilities are equal to those provided Whites. Classifying students by race and segregating them is within state authority under Fourteenth Amendment. Mississippi Supreme Court affirmed.
Fhu 发表于 2024-10-09 16:52 Lum v rice判决，unanimous通过的哦 Chinese children do not meet the statutory definition of "White" and thus may lawfully be denied admission to schools reserved for children of that race only; attendance at school for Black students is constitutional as long as facilities are equal to those provided Whites. Classifying students by race and segregating them is within state authority under Fourteenth Amendment. Mississippi Supreme Court affirmed.
这个很地区化，也很复杂。我的祖父的哥哥1945年后留在美国，他告诉我们他们当时是坐在白人区的。整个欧洲/美国的历史，他们的‘白人’ 定义一直在变化，包括了越来越多的人。比如爱尔兰人从前不算白人的，后来被算了进去。意大利人也是。 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5n57kp/comment/dc9tp34/ I can answer your question about Japanese in the South. During World War II, there were two internment camps for Japanese Americans in Arkansas and one in Mississippi. In spite of some opposition from state politicians to locating the camps there, the benefits for the federal government (ie. the land was cheap and it was thought that the Japanese might be able to make something of it) were too many to ignore. The opposition was primarily due to the difficulties that their presence would create for the racial dividing lines and because of general racism against the Japanese Americans. Southern leaders had a difficult choice when dealing with the incoming Japanese Americans. If they labeled them as colored, then it could lead to difficulties if they did work that was traditionally for whites only. This would blur the color line and could lead to blacks believing that such work or opportunities were open to them as well. This was a non-starter for the white southerners. Hence, they went with option two. Treating the Japanese Americans as white in regards to Jim Crow laws was not without its problems, however. Primary among these was that in no way did white southerners believe that Japanese were their equals. The only reason that they were white in the eyes of the law was to keep as much distance between white and colored as possible. Hence, to answer your question, Japanese (and Chinese, Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Arab, AND Mexicans) would have sat on the white side. HOWEVER, this is not to say that there was equal treatment at all. Japanese Americans (both internees and soldiers stationed in Southern bases) faced discrimination when they went into towns. For example, when Private Louis Furushiro went into a cafe while going to visit his sister, who was interned, a man named William Wood heard about it and fired his shotgun at him. In another case, a man "arrested" three internees and shot one of them in the leg. The punishment for these crimes was extremely light because the government did not want to deal with public opinion issues that might arise. Japanese Americans in Arkansas were also made unwelcome in the state's white universities. They were not allowed to enroll because it might make the entry of African Americans easier. In many cases, the internees could not get jobs for the same reason. I hope that this adds some to your understanding of the delicate balance that the Jim Crow South attempted to walk and how various ethnic groups could upset that balance.
健康平安 发表于 2024-10-09 17:13 这个很地区化，也很复杂。我的祖父的哥哥1945年后留在美国，他告诉我们他们当时是坐在白人区的。整个欧洲/美国的历史，他们的‘白人’ 定义一直在变化，包括了越来越多的人。比如爱尔兰人从前不算白人的，后来被算了进去。意大利人也是。 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5n57kp/comment/dc9tp34/ I can answer your question about Japanese in the South. During World War II, there were two internment camps for Japanese Americans in Arkansas and one in Mississippi. In spite of some opposition from state politicians to locating the camps there, the benefits for the federal government (ie. the land was cheap and it was thought that the Japanese might be able to make something of it) were too many to ignore. The opposition was primarily due to the difficulties that their presence would create for the racial dividing lines and because of general racism against the Japanese Americans. Southern leaders had a difficult choice when dealing with the incoming Japanese Americans. If they labeled them as colored, then it could lead to difficulties if they did work that was traditionally for whites only. This would blur the color line and could lead to blacks believing that such work or opportunities were open to them as well. This was a non-starter for the white southerners. Hence, they went with option two. Treating the Japanese Americans as white in regards to Jim Crow laws was not without its problems, however. Primary among these was that in no way did white southerners believe that Japanese were their equals. The only reason that they were white in the eyes of the law was to keep as much distance between white and colored as possible. Hence, to answer your question, Japanese (and Chinese, Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Arab, AND Mexicans) would have sat on the white side. HOWEVER, this is not to say that there was equal treatment at all. Japanese Americans (both internees and soldiers stationed in Southern bases) faced discrimination when they went into towns. For example, when Private Louis Furushiro went into a cafe while going to visit his sister, who was interned, a man named William Wood heard about it and fired his shotgun at him. In another case, a man "arrested" three internees and shot one of them in the leg. The punishment for these crimes was extremely light because the government did not want to deal with public opinion issues that might arise. Japanese Americans in Arkansas were also made unwelcome in the state's white universities. They were not allowed to enroll because it might make the entry of African Americans easier. In many cases, the internees could not get jobs for the same reason. I hope that this adds some to your understanding of the delicate balance that the Jim Crow South attempted to walk and how various ethnic groups could upset that balance.
健康平安 发表于 2024-10-09 17:13 这个很地区化，也很复杂。我的祖父的哥哥1945年后留在美国，他告诉我们他们当时是坐在白人区的。整个欧洲/美国的历史，他们的‘白人’ 定义一直在变化，包括了越来越多的人。比如爱尔兰人从前不算白人的，后来被算了进去。意大利人也是。 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5n57kp/comment/dc9tp34/ I can answer your question about Japanese in the South. During World War II, there were two internment camps for Japanese Americans in Arkansas and one in Mississippi. In spite of some opposition from state politicians to locating the camps there, the benefits for the federal government (ie. the land was cheap and it was thought that the Japanese might be able to make something of it) were too many to ignore. The opposition was primarily due to the difficulties that their presence would create for the racial dividing lines and because of general racism against the Japanese Americans. Southern leaders had a difficult choice when dealing with the incoming Japanese Americans. If they labeled them as colored, then it could lead to difficulties if they did work that was traditionally for whites only. This would blur the color line and could lead to blacks believing that such work or opportunities were open to them as well. This was a non-starter for the white southerners. Hence, they went with option two. Treating the Japanese Americans as white in regards to Jim Crow laws was not without its problems, however. Primary among these was that in no way did white southerners believe that Japanese were their equals. The only reason that they were white in the eyes of the law was to keep as much distance between white and colored as possible. Hence, to answer your question, Japanese (and Chinese, Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Arab, AND Mexicans) would have sat on the white side. HOWEVER, this is not to say that there was equal treatment at all. Japanese Americans (both internees and soldiers stationed in Southern bases) faced discrimination when they went into towns. For example, when Private Louis Furushiro went into a cafe while going to visit his sister, who was interned, a man named William Wood heard about it and fired his shotgun at him. In another case, a man "arrested" three internees and shot one of them in the leg. The punishment for these crimes was extremely light because the government did not want to deal with public opinion issues that might arise. Japanese Americans in Arkansas were also made unwelcome in the state's white universities. They were not allowed to enroll because it might make the entry of African Americans easier. In many cases, the internees could not get jobs for the same reason. I hope that this adds some to your understanding of the delicate balance that the Jim Crow South attempted to walk and how various ethnic groups could upset that balance.
不要有幻想了，以前华人为segregation打过官司(lum v rice)的，argued华人不是黑人应该去白人学校不能去黑人学校，官司输了。以前南方去喝水华人是去colored水龙头的。
南方华人能上白人学校是要等segregation彻底不合法之后
Chinese children do not meet the statutory definition of "White" and thus may lawfully be denied admission to schools reserved for children of that race only; attendance at school for Black students is constitutional as long as facilities are equal to those provided Whites. Classifying students by race and segregating them is within state authority under Fourteenth Amendment. Mississippi Supreme Court affirmed.
这个很地区化，也很复杂。我的祖父的哥哥1945年后留在美国，他告诉我们他们当时是坐在白人区的。整个欧洲/美国的历史，他们的‘白人’ 定义一直在变化，包括了越来越多的人。比如爱尔兰人从前不算白人的，后来被算了进去。意大利人也是。
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5n57kp/comment/dc9tp34/
I can answer your question about Japanese in the South. During World War II, there were two internment camps for Japanese Americans in Arkansas and one in Mississippi. In spite of some opposition from state politicians to locating the camps there, the benefits for the federal government (ie. the land was cheap and it was thought that the Japanese might be able to make something of it) were too many to ignore. The opposition was primarily due to the difficulties that their presence would create for the racial dividing lines and because of general racism against the Japanese Americans. Southern leaders had a difficult choice when dealing with the incoming Japanese Americans. If they labeled them as colored, then it could lead to difficulties if they did work that was traditionally for whites only. This would blur the color line and could lead to blacks believing that such work or opportunities were open to them as well. This was a non-starter for the white southerners. Hence, they went with option two. Treating the Japanese Americans as white in regards to Jim Crow laws was not without its problems, however. Primary among these was that in no way did white southerners believe that Japanese were their equals. The only reason that they were white in the eyes of the law was to keep as much distance between white and colored as possible. Hence, to answer your question, Japanese (and Chinese, Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Arab, AND Mexicans) would have sat on the white side. HOWEVER, this is not to say that there was equal treatment at all. Japanese Americans (both internees and soldiers stationed in Southern bases) faced discrimination when they went into towns. For example, when Private Louis Furushiro went into a cafe while going to visit his sister, who was interned, a man named William Wood heard about it and fired his shotgun at him. In another case, a man "arrested" three internees and shot one of them in the leg. The punishment for these crimes was extremely light because the government did not want to deal with public opinion issues that might arise. Japanese Americans in Arkansas were also made unwelcome in the state's white universities. They were not allowed to enroll because it might make the entry of African Americans easier. In many cases, the internees could not get jobs for the same reason. I hope that this adds some to your understanding of the delicate balance that the Jim Crow South attempted to walk and how various ethnic groups could upset that balance.
只能说你祖父运气好。我大致查了一下，两种情况都有。有当白人坐前面的，也有当有色人种被赶到后面的，全凭白人司机当时的心情 很难想象当时出门都不知道自己会被看作是什么人的感觉。脑门贴护照估计没用
纳粹不是你们网军骂人的杀手锏吗？怎么还原一下历史事实，纳粹最是支持堕胎，纳粹最是支持禁枪，就变成杠了？不过你说得对，共产党也最是支持堕胎，国内从来没有过不方便堕胎的思路，共产党也最支持禁枪，看来网军对这两个问题超级有兴趣是雇主要求。
那你亲戚幸运，杨振宁一位教授也想买房子，某白人区还据售
觉得中国人不加入其他minorities反抗种族歧视，而是整天琢磨着白人内涵有没有扩展到我身上我能不能捞一个荣誉白人的位置也是挺贱的