回复 22楼 墨染云烟 的帖子 最后爸爸被判刑11个月，医生诊断脑死亡要拔管摘器官的儿子后来恢复正常了。这老爸太牛了！ When his 27-year-old son was declared brain dead by doctors and they threatened to turn off his life support, George Pickering II was not convinced by their assessment. Believing the hospital was planning to take his son off life support prematurely, Pickering smuggled a we*pon into the hospital and barricaded himself in his son’s room. However, in a pivotal moment of the tense three-hour stand off that was started, Pickering’s son, previously declared braindead, responded to his father’s request to squeeze his hand. Pickering faced charges of aggravated ass*ult and subsequently served a prison sentence of 11 months. Remarkably, his son survived, regained consciousness and experienced a complete recovery (2015)
bigsnail 发表于 2024-09-12 23:40 回复 22楼 墨染云烟 的帖子 最后爸爸被判刑11个月，医生诊断脑死亡要拔管摘器官的儿子后来恢复正常了。这老爸太牛了！ When his 27-year-old son was declared brain dead by doctors and they threatened to turn off his life support, George Pickering II was not convinced by their assessment. Believing the hospital was planning to take his son off life support prematurely, Pickering smuggled a we*pon into the hospital and barricaded himself in his son’s room. However, in a pivotal moment of the tense three-hour stand off that was started, Pickering’s son, previously declared braindead, responded to his father’s request to squeeze his hand. Pickering faced charges of aggravated ass*ult and subsequently served a prison sentence of 11 months. Remarkably, his son survived, regained consciousness and experienced a complete recovery (2015)
https://donatelife.ny.gov/register/ 不要恐慌， 5分钟就可以online 取消注册。 如果没空不需要立刻跑dmv Note: you do not have to remove the “organ donor” status from your DMV or IDNYC-issued identification cards to be removed from the Registry.
helenyy 发表于 2024-09-13 10:34 https://donatelife.ny.gov/register/ 不要恐慌， 5分钟就可以online 取消注册。 如果没空不需要立刻跑dmv Note: you do not have to remove the “organ donor” status from your DMV or IDNYC-issued identification cards to be removed from the Registry.
回复 83楼 lotusever 的帖子 你这个连名字都没有， 连哪个医院都没有。 纯粹造谣。 我给你医疗证据都是时间地点人物都有的。 比如bruce tucker， 看看人家美国的记录， At 11:00 P.M. a craniotomy (opening of the skull) was performed on Bruce Tucker to relieve brain hemorrhaging and edema (swelling). A tracheotomy (incision in the wind-pipe) was also done to facilitate breathing, and he was returned to his room at 2:05 A.M. on the morning 'of May 25, 1968, where his condition was described as "slightly improved". Intravenous feedings (IV's) were being administered and he continued receiving medication until 11:30 A.M., when he was placed on a respirator, presumably because of respiratory distress. Shortly before this, at about 10:00 A.M., Dr. Abdullah Fatteh, then deputy state medical examiner, and one of the physicians later to be indicted, told future co-defendant Dr. David M. Hume (chief of MCV's department of surgery) that he should attempt to locate Tucker's family to obtain permission to use his heart and kidneys for transplantation purposes. However, no immediate action was apparently taken on this recommendation. The patient's condition must have been felt sufficiently grave the night before (i.e., May 24) that another member of the transplant team10 had already notified the police at midnight in an attempt to contact the family. At 11:45 A.M. on May 25th, Tucker's attending physician noted in his chart that "prognosis for recovery is nil and death imminent."" Shortly thereafter, MCV staff neurologist, and later co-defendant, Dr. Hooshang Hooshman, was called in to examine the patient and an EEG (electroencephalogram, or brain-wave recording) was run; on the basis of a 25-minute EEG tracing, Dr. Hooshman concluded that Tucker's brain 12 was dead. It was also determined that Tucker's heartbeat, pulse, blood pressure and temperature were "normal for his condition." He was, however, unable to breathe without assistance of the respirator. Dr. Hume was then apprised to Tucker's condition and at about 2:00 P.M. again called the police to try to notify Tucker's family. Some 30 minutes later the police returned the call indicating their inability to reach Tucker's next of kin, whereupon the patient was returned to the operating room to be prepared for transplantation of his heart and kidneys: the die was cast. At 3:30 P.M. the respirator was disconnected by the attending physician and there being no spontaneous respirations for a 5-minute period, Tucker was pronounced dead. 18 At 3:40 P.M. on May 25, 1968, Dr. Hume called Dr. Fatteh to report that Tucker had expired, whereupon the medical examiner gave permission to remove Bruce Tucker's heart and transplant it into the body of Joseph Klett, Jr. It is of interest to note that during the "critical period" (11:45 A.M. - 3:00 P.M.) in which relatives were being sought to obtain permission for transplantation, that a woman friend of Tucker's was roaming the corridors of the MCV 'hospital complex trying to find him, but without success. Furthermore, Tucker's brother, William, a shoe repairman, whose shop was only 15 blocks from the medical center, was not contacted, despite the fact that his business card and phone number were in his brother's wallet and available to the hospital authorities. It was this very lack of notice and consent that probably provoked the suit filed by the brother, as administrator of Tucker's estate. However, the issue of consent, by either donors or their survivors, to transplant vital organs was not raised in the Tucker trial because of a legal technicality, the running of the statute of limitations. The MCV surgical team had relied in the Tucker case, as in others before, upon the State of Virginia's "Unclaimed Body Act",14 which permits the state medical examiner to donate unclaimed bodies to medical schools and .hospitals for educational and scientific purposes.15 However, the statute also requires that the body be held at least 24 hours to permit a reasonable search for next of kin.16 Such a delay would obviously preclude most transplant procedures. 17 Bruce Tucker's body was not held for the 24- hour period mandated by the statute; indeed, less than four hours after he was adjudged "neurologically dead" by Dr. Hooshman, Tucker's heart was placed in a bucket of iced saline solution in preparation for implantation into the recipient, Klett. Despite this apparent violation of the law, the question could not be litigated because consent for transplantation involves a personal right under Virginia law and the suit was not filed until after the one year statute of limitations on personal rights suits had expired.
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美国没人偷器官 那多low 啊
美国是在像你这样的傻帽签字conscience下 合理， 合法的活摘割你的器官， 而你最为器官韭菜在生命最后一刻还是要歌颂美国的伟大
Mark mark
🛋️ 沙发板凳
大家一直不信耗子，这下有data point 支持耗子了。
太可惡了！
因为耗子还给自家闺女喂高锰酸钾。。。
有个讲脑死亡的电影，，，
我也看到这个了，所以也改了
没有割任何器官
那人被判成脑死亡
器官采集手术医生还没下刀就发现那人醒了就取消了
普世价值都是用来忽悠韭菜，资本要多邪恶就能有多邪恶。
美国最糟的地方就是医疗教育福利这些本来不应该由资本把持的关系民生的行当也都被资本把持了。
活摘
最后那个持枪保护孩子免于活摘器官的父亲被警方逮捕，不知道判了几年.
M2档案有一集讲过几个器官捐献的案子，很震惊。推荐找来看看。
这就是为啥老司机们都告诉你，坚决不要在驾照上选择做器官捐献者
很多时候，当你的器官更有用的时候，你的生命可能就未必会得到应有的保护
这太狠毒了
最后爸爸被判刑11个月，医生诊断脑死亡要拔管摘器官的儿子后来恢复正常了。这老爸太牛了！
When his 27-year-old son was declared brain dead by doctors and they threatened to turn off his life support, George Pickering II was not convinced by their assessment.
Believing the hospital was planning to take his son off life support prematurely, Pickering smuggled a we*pon into the hospital and barricaded himself in his son’s room.
However, in a pivotal moment of the tense three-hour stand off that was started, Pickering’s son, previously declared braindead, responded to his father’s request to squeeze his hand.
Pickering faced charges of aggravated ass*ult and subsequently served a prison sentence of 11 months.
Remarkably, his son survived, regained consciousness and experienced a complete recovery (2015)
采采，还好是美国新闻。。。要是这是中国新闻，坛子里一大帮人肯定是要高潮了。。。
取消驾照上的没用，registry 不更新的，而医院以registry 为准
如果以前登记过，一定要取消要取消registry 的
器官移植机构极其aggressive.
不会，organ harvesting is done under anesthesia.
应该把肯塔基从标题里面去掉，定能钓到不少轮子
请问怎么取消，非得人去吗？电话可以不
请问怎么取消registry？
同问
我去！！！
太特么的魔幻了
哇，这么狠！
那如何取消registry有人科普一下吗
标记一下，回头去查查怎么取消registry的
取消网上狗狗一下
请记得分享，😰
这个爸爸应该获得国家赔偿！
我家闺女是自杀宣布抢救成功后活摘。这才是绝对的谋杀。
估计没有人敢露头担责任，当时去的时候见到的是年轻白人男医生和年轻白人女护士。这俩应该是主谋。白人对黄对黑的恶是我们无法想象的。
当时是毒品测试完全没有问题后马上活摘，可见买主肯定是出了极高的价钱的，这是活活杀人。
当时进医院只有一个半小时，就开始活摘了。也就是所谓的孩子们出事黄金二十四小时纯粹扯淡。进了医院可能两小时就没了。
最后，我家娃没有任何身份证件，都留车上了。所以我认为这个犯罪是针对任何黄皮肤。不是针对我们家。
把驾照上这条改掉是我逛华人的最大收获之一。
我不是看到这个德州的新闻，我是看到一个关于讨论种族歧视的贴里，一个网友分享的，两个同事说如果驾照这样写，对于少数族裔，医生就有可能不全力抢救了，这两个同事都是黑人。
我立刻改了，娃考驾照时候也特意嘱咐。
会给你打大量麻药，醒了看着肚子里被摘光了也不会疼。而且不能动，不能说话，只能看着被摘….
1. **查看驾照**：许多州在驾照上都会标记出是否选择了器官捐献。通常会有一个标志，比如一个心形或器官捐献者的字样，表明你已同意成为器官捐献者。
2. **联系当地的机动车辆管理局（DMV）**：你可以联系所在州的DMV或类似机构，询问自己是否在驾照上选择了器官捐献。他们可以根据你的记录告诉你具体信息。
3. **在线账户或App**：某些州提供在线服务，允许你查看和更新驾照信息。如果你有一个DMV在线账户，登录后可以查看是否注册为器官捐献者。
4. **器官捐献注册系统**：你可能在一个国家或州的器官捐献注册系统中注册，访问相关网站（如美国的Donate Life Registry），你可以通过输入个人信息来确认自己是否是注册的捐献者。
如果你想更改器官捐献状态，也可以通过以上这些方式来进行更新。
可是其他的路子甚多 比如说你没有身份证件，醉了被陌生人送进医院。。最危险了
不如你的器官不错，年轻不细读，人家见财起意。不走脑死亡的路子。
医院活摘我家可没有走脑死亡的路子，走的是败血症。
几年前就在版上看到姐妹提醒了，那个德州的案例也看到过。
所以过去的风俗是要停灵7天还是多少天才下葬，就是考虑到这种情况。
mark一个，我今年更新驾照就去改
让活摘程序化，合法化。 这个邪恶大学就是很多人家孩子的终极目标
看了楼内大妈的回复，从内心里感到悲哀。器官移植在美国每人挽救几百上千人的生命，你们一个新闻标题就把成千上万的医生护士飞行员司机社区工作者的工作否定了。国内器官移植开展不起来就是因为你们这样的大妈！传播这些负面新闻之前，能不能把文章读完整？能不能了解一下前因后果？
是啊，你家老大当年被哈佛据了，你在网上骂了好几天。
做为有色人种这样的弱势群体先不要悲天悯人了。因为你是把自己或家人活下来的希望放在了某一个医生甚至护士的良心上。我不是否认医生整体的医德水平，但是万一呢？
必须要更新驾照时改吗？随时联系DMV改可不可以 上次更新驾照时我在柜台要求改了，结果正式驾照寄到后还是给我弄成organ donor....
刚才去了Donate Life Registry，发现要用最初始的驾照信息才能查，第一张驾照早扔了啊
老小，医疗事故后，西雅图儿童医院谋杀。 老大，自杀未遂后医院活摘逃出来了。圣地亚哥Scripps memorial
很多人没有听说过老三 老三签了免责才活下来。否则医院一定要拆了找咋病了。其实不该去医院。孩子二周不到晒热了，结果以为病了去医院，医院检查一步步更有破坏性，根本无视孩子可能没事。evergreen hospital Kirkland
美国医院远比战场危险。尤其是对于少数族裔。杀个人根本不眨眼。
不否认下面做事的医护工作者是很多有良知的人，但美国的医疗和医保系统是从上到下rotten，是capital driven，我开玩笑和一个医生朋友说，你们这行业怎么回事，能不能改革，对方笑笑说，我们是既得利益者，为什么要改
知道多恶毒了吧，就是把你骗上车然后下不了车
驾照一般5年吧，万一。。。， 多么年轻健康诱人的器官啊
如果没空不需要立刻跑dmv
Note: you do not have to remove the “organ donor” status from your DMV or IDNYC-issued identification cards to be removed from the Registry.
2个都要注销啊，光注销一个不管用
很多年前citidata网站上有被科普了，注销也没有用。 只要注册过，就是器官捐献者。
太狠了，只能defensive driving到五六七八十岁，老了器官也不值钱了~ 有个疑问，如果这个注销没用，一次注册终身有效的话，那这些机构的网站难道没有fine print说明吗，注册的后果是什么，注销又是什么. 如果不说清楚，是否违法，如果明说注册后终身有效不能override，是否也违法
不不，你想想轮子的谣言肯定是有出处的对吧
不会吧，我记得如果只改驾照上的没用，但是Register注销了就算真的注销了。
国内因为器官移植合法不少年轻孩子都失踪了，你真不知道还是假不知道？
你这是造谣吧。 具体可以举例出来， 大家可以摆证据看一看， 只需要举一个可靠的例子， 大家辩论一下 真假。
美国的事情你不信可以查查bruce tucker的整个过程， 这个有法庭， 有很多文章的。
你可能没有关注，确实前几年有个青年回家探亲火车站失踪，然后父母桥上拉横幅，很多自媒体报道，被封杀了。还有个更著名的，我不记得名字了。最近几年这种事更多，也是出来以后很快风沙。著名器官移植专家被自杀。这些应该还可以搜到。还有一个事实是，器官移植的前提是活摘。捐献者必须是没有生理死亡。
你这个连名字都没有， 连哪个医院都没有。 纯粹造谣。 我给你医疗证据都是时间地点人物都有的。 比如bruce tucker， 看看人家美国的记录，
At 11:00 P.M. a craniotomy (opening of the skull) was performed on Bruce Tucker to relieve brain hemorrhaging and edema (swelling). A tracheotomy (incision in the wind-pipe) was also done to facilitate breathing, and he was returned to his room at 2:05 A.M. on the morning 'of May 25, 1968, where his condition was described as "slightly improved". Intravenous feedings (IV's) were being administered and he continued receiving medication until 11:30 A.M., when he was placed on a respirator, presumably because of respiratory distress. Shortly before this, at about 10:00 A.M., Dr. Abdullah Fatteh, then deputy state medical examiner, and one of the physicians later to be indicted, told future co-defendant Dr. David M. Hume (chief of MCV's department of surgery) that he should attempt to locate Tucker's family to obtain permission to use his heart and kidneys for transplantation purposes. However, no immediate action was apparently taken on this recommendation. The patient's condition must have been felt sufficiently grave the night before (i.e., May 24) that another member of the transplant team10 had already notified the police at midnight in an attempt to contact the family.
At 11:45 A.M. on May 25th, Tucker's attending physician noted in his chart that "prognosis for recovery is nil and death imminent."" Shortly thereafter, MCV staff neurologist, and later co-defendant, Dr. Hooshang Hooshman, was called in to examine the patient and an EEG (electroencephalogram, or brain-wave recording) was run; on the basis of a 25-minute EEG tracing, Dr. Hooshman concluded that Tucker's brain 12 was dead. It was also determined that Tucker's heartbeat, pulse, blood pressure and temperature were "normal for his condition." He was, however, unable to breathe without assistance of the respirator. Dr. Hume was then apprised to Tucker's condition and at about 2:00 P.M. again called the police to try to notify Tucker's family. Some 30 minutes later the police returned the call indicating their inability to reach Tucker's next of kin, whereupon the patient was returned to the operating room to be prepared for transplantation of his heart and kidneys: the die was cast. At 3:30 P.M. the respirator was disconnected by the attending physician and there being no spontaneous respirations for a 5-minute period, Tucker was pronounced dead. 18
At 3:40 P.M. on May 25, 1968, Dr. Hume called Dr. Fatteh to report that Tucker had expired, whereupon the medical examiner gave permission to remove Bruce Tucker's heart and transplant it into the body of Joseph Klett, Jr. It is of interest to note that during the "critical period" (11:45 A.M. - 3:00 P.M.) in which relatives were being sought to obtain permission for transplantation, that a woman friend of Tucker's was roaming the corridors of the MCV 'hospital complex trying to find him, but without success. Furthermore, Tucker's brother, William, a shoe repairman, whose shop was only 15 blocks from the medical center, was not contacted, despite the fact that his business card and phone number were in his brother's wallet and available to the hospital authorities. It was this very lack of notice and consent that probably provoked the suit filed by the brother, as administrator of Tucker's estate. However, the issue of consent, by either donors or their survivors, to transplant vital organs was not raised in the Tucker trial because of a legal technicality, the running of the statute of limitations. The MCV surgical team had relied in the Tucker case, as in others before, upon the State of Virginia's "Unclaimed Body Act",14 which permits the state medical examiner to donate unclaimed bodies to medical schools and .hospitals for educational and scientific purposes.15 However, the statute also requires that the body be held at least 24 hours to permit a reasonable search for next of kin.16 Such a delay would obviously preclude most transplant procedures. 17 Bruce Tucker's body was not held for the 24- hour period mandated by the statute; indeed, less than four hours after he was adjudged "neurologically dead" by Dr. Hooshman, Tucker's heart was placed in a bucket of iced saline solution in preparation for implantation into the recipient, Klett. Despite this apparent violation of the law, the question could not be litigated because consent for transplantation involves a personal right under Virginia law and the suit was not filed until after the one year statute of limitations on personal rights suits had expired.
好像是华西的肝移植专家，快退休了，跳楼了。是不是有关不知道，但是国内死刑犯摘器官应该是真的。
这个俺知道一些
大约10年11年地时候， 中国司法改革了这一点， 从那时候开始， 死刑犯器官捐献必须本人自愿 （这句话非常令人深思， 可以推断出很多东西。。。 俺不敢多说啊）
也正是从那时开始， 国内器官移植地来源突然紧张起来--- 很多死刑犯你给钱都没用，人家就是不同意。 天津一中心，知名地肝移植中心， 据大夫讲，每年都有一半地力量带着现金在全国跑各种监狱， 死刑犯答应捐献，就给家人钱。。。。 有的犯人就同意了， 但是还是有很多不同意。 而且从那时开始，刑场等规范了很多， 私自乱摘得现象少了很多。
这个改变得最重要原因，就是国际上对中国XX器官得批评浪潮太大。。。。
少来妖言惑众，人体器官你以为是衣服首饰，说拿来用就可以用的呀？知不知道要配型？知不知道器官移植前要做检查？知不知道器官运送保存需要特殊的设备？知不知道器官移植后要抗免疫治疗？这个一个复杂的体系，这么多医护人员参与，在美国会有人冒这个险去偷器官？
tmd这个真的吓死我了。下回renew驾照的时候我也要取消。
是的，你说得没错。国内以前重要的器官来源是死刑犯，而且并不需要犯人或家属同意，所以遭到了国外的剧烈批评，主要是人权问题。后来迫于压力，政策改了，造成器官来源受限。大妈自己不愿捐献是自己的权利，但不要造谣传谣，把美国变成国内一个样。
那你就不懂了。
美国是个程序正确的国家， 只要有程序， 没有不敢干的。 当然医护是有选择的， 但是因为美国病人没有丝毫权利， 医生可以说为所欲为。
医院可以用儿童保护组织， 心理医生， 警察， 等等来杀人灭口。 这个我都是有证据的， 都贴过。
因为美国如此， 所以受害人极其多。 我相信， 平均每天， 在美国有一个儿童被医院故意残忍杀死。
其实你看看反抗制度的， 德州老爹， 百分百救活了。 我自己救活了俩， 被医院杀死的那个比例，， 是无法想象的。
我大学同宿舍一个女孩爸爸是国内一个顶尖医院的肾科主任，她那时告诉我说是用死刑犯器官移植的。不过那是很多年前了。
为了不给诊断， 血样替换， 尿样结果出来取消结果， 新生儿代谢不去查藏起来假装不知道， 病理换新医生作假， 让儿童保护组织追杀。。 美帝邪恶那是整个医院都这么干的。
英美政府和法院还帮助谋杀。 我就贴几个白人的video， 我贴了很多次。大家看看。
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逼嘴一张就是封杀，你哪来的内幕？哦，前段时间失踪个少年，然后找到说自杀了，倒是一群人啥报告没有，一口咬定熊猫血，被自杀。美国这是人自己醒了摘器官失败了，结果不当事，到了中国，一句我听说就代表了
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你活着都逃不掉， 还扯淡什么医院不敢做事情。 一不做二不休。 医院杀人那是追杀你到天涯海角
别自己逼嘴长一块就以为其他人跟你一样。我哪来的内幕？我可以没说是内幕，这也不是内幕，是事实，是我在删帖之前看到的。
这也离谱啊。。。 万一没醒就再也醒不了了 Mmp