"MSNBC took a clip of me talking about Tulsi Gabbard and edited it to make it look like I was praising Kamala Harris. They completely took my words out of context, blending my comments on Tulsi's military service with Kamala's media surge. They don't care about the truth—just pushing a narrative for surface readers." Source: The Joe Rogan Experience
🚨🇺🇸ROGAN: MSNBC DECEPTIVELY EDITED MY COMMENTS TO PRAISE KAMALA
"MSNBC took a clip of me talking about Tulsi Gabbard and edited it to make it look like I was praising Kamala Harris.
Not surprised, not their first time, and not their last time either.. that's how they manipulate and mislead people...it works for people who are too busy with life/work, and no time to dive deeper to those news...or still have faith in MSM or fake media
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it. link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it. link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it. link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it. link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it. link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
"MSNBC took a clip of me talking about Tulsi Gabbard and edited it to make it look like I was praising Kamala Harris.
They completely took my words out of context, blending my comments on Tulsi's military service with Kamala's media surge.
They don't care about the truth—just pushing a narrative for surface readers."
Source: The Joe Rogan Experience
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第一,不管Joe Rogan自己的言论多么不靠谱,媒体不应该歪曲他的position。 第二,媒体为啥要歪曲他的position也非常简单,因为他在网上流量太高了,人气高,口碑非常好。 第三,关于他对疫苗的看法,其实代表了相当多人的立场(我不大同意他的立场)。他的立场是: 1。不管疫苗本身有效性安全性如何,政府应该公布全部的信息。媒体应该允许立场不同的专家出来说话。而不是当言论的裁判。 2 。 他主张对于身体好,年龄段不是小孩不是老人,没有基础病的人,政府不应该mandate打疫苗,而是让每个人自己做决定。所以他主要怼的是疫情期间政府强迫大家打疫苗,不打不能上班不能上学这个政策。
非典是public health crisis 除非个人是不去接触别人的 每个人都有一定的obligation to minimize the spread 这就是为啥2002年的非典立马采取隔离措施才没有影响到全球 而2020的非典变成的global pandemic
美国很多人不愿意隔离 不愿意戴口罩 不愿意打疫苗 美其名曰个人选择和自由 就是罔顾别人的生命 诚然疫苗做不到virus free/proof 但正是因为诸多举措 美国才能flatten the curve 没有像意大利和西班牙一样发生医疗挤兑致使系统崩溃
你这是在赞美川普吗?因为哪些国家有医疗挤兑的是2020年.
Fox did this. Fair play
是的,要指望每个人都很自觉,在兼顾个人自觉和公共卫生安全之间找到sweep spot是很难的。 同样在公共卫生安全和经济代价之间也有很困难的平衡点。据说因为疫情lock down洛杉矶的餐馆有70%破产。想要恢复到疫情前的水平估计要很久很久。如果不是政府给大家直接发钱,估计很多人会因为lock down丢工作而生活受很大影响。但是直接发钱就是制造这波通胀的一个重要因素,所以。。。
这个咱必须实话实说,首先川普领导下美国以空前的速度研制出了疫苗,这个不可否认对于降低疫情死亡率(至少至少是在易感人群之中)肯定是有很大好处的。其次他在疫情最初其实反对lock down,因为担心经济受影响。他也在第一时间给纽约送去一大堆呼吸机。至于后来的lock down政策,都是各个州主导实施的,跟联邦关系并不大。
搞笑也无所谓,我批它因为觉得这么做太恶心了,肯定不是傻,是新闻媒体的良心没了。
你们川粉真能给他脸上贴金,做啥都是对的,做啥都有理由。
第一个发明安全有效的疫苗的公司是BioNTech 是两个土耳其人在德国的公司。 和川普花了180亿美元的投资operation warp speed 没啥关系
发明疫苗都能让你把功劳算到川普头上,这是铁粉
这不是我扣在他头上的,是Washington Post记者写的:
He launched Operation Warp Speed, the greatest public health achievement in history. Until now, the record for the fastest vaccine development was four years. Operation Warp Speed did it in nine months. Because of Operation Warp Speed, the worst of the pandemic should be over by the spring. For all his mistakes in managing the pandemic, Trump is also responsible for ending it.
link: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-10-best-things-trump-did-in-2020/
做川粉真的很难了,你打疫苗了吗?川大大搞得这么好的疫苗,打了十几针了吧?来来来,给我们介绍一下打针以后的体会。
顺便说一句,辉瑞特地不要加入川的这个计划,有没有想过为什么?
嗯嗯,疫苗是他在白宫地下室一夜没睡发明出来的
但是,但是,川粉不喜欢打苗啊,他在某次集会上吹嘘了半句这疫苗怎么好,被自己的粉嘘了,所以现在再不提这疫苗的事儿了
Opinion isn’t news or fact
哎,我特别烦说个啥事就扯川粉。粉不粉川普跟讨论的这个问题有啥关系?我最初是贴MSNBC misinformation的证据,结果没几句话又被扯到川普不要脸,川普不是人这个问题上了。咱能不能就是论事讨论,别管谁是不是谁的粉,是不是谁的黑。
还是那句话,最后每个人选谁,是个人的自由和权利。我们可以讨论的,是我们都应当认可一个什么样的事实,我们可以讨论的,是我们遵循一个什么原则进行选择(当然每个人在个人的位置上会有不同的取舍和侧重)。
是不是粉你自己心里明白,不是的话我说一百遍你也不是,着啥急呢?
我只是说明一下,第一,川普对疫苗这个“功绩”,从国家层面来说,不管谁在做总统,做事的人都是会做的,和他有没有那个大黄蜂计划没啥区别。第二,也是最最最尴尬的是,支持川普的人(咱不用粉这个词了啊),也是对疫苗特别怀疑的人,这让他没法大嘴吹牛了啊!
你这老旧的思想需要进步了!! 还停在2020年呢!
我也同意你川普关于疫苗这个,其实就是正常情况下总统应该做的。我谢谢你,愿意不再用“粉”这个词儿。
我是觉得,川普做了该做的,那么应该给他的credit就应该给他。这个没啥大不了的,监督不是就起这个作用么? 疫苗在我看来绝对是利大于弊的,至少给众多有基础病(考虑到美国肥胖和糖尿病、心血管疾病人数众多)的人一个额外的保护。这一点没啥可怀疑的。
如果说那些对疫苗特别怀疑的人有什么合理之处,就在于他们要求的信息公开、自由讨论。这个我觉得应该坚决允许。毕竟按照科学研发过程研制的疫苗,没什么可以掩饰的,如果为了及时让大家能用,缩短了一些实验的时间,考虑到疫情特殊性,也不是不能理解的。把一切都晾在公众面前,让大家自己评价。
到时候医疗崩溃,社会正常生活迟迟无法恢复,这帮人又会攻击政府无视老百姓的死活啦。都是有政治任务的。
所以现在那些反疫苗的人,认定打疫苗后各种后遗症就是川普的这个被认为是被史上最伟大的公共卫生成就造成的?9个月就研究出来也是忒快了。双盲有时间做吗?难怪这些人怀疑疫苗的质量。都不知道谁在说谎。
他以前是白粉,现在是哈白粉
是那个造谣中国人枪击川普的垃圾报纸Washington post?
那个是New York Post 造谣小报
哦记错了
trump被白皮川粉嘘这事我还记得,然后他就怂了换话题了 所以很难说是trump利用了racists,还是racists利用了trump,狼狈为奸比较恰当