疫苗这个话题也属于近期热门话题哈。我知道一提疫苗这个话题，一定会有人说，什么什么MMR和自闭症的关联的论文已经撤稿了。现在主流对疫苗和自闭症的关联是持明确反对和打压的态度。我明白，对于那些人来说，只要是现在还没有形成主流认可的观点的，只要是没有权威论文证明的，都是错误的，都是反科学的。 我相信自闭症(其实还不止自闭症)和婴幼儿疫苗的关联，给予足够长的时间，一定会被数据证明。我相信科学有一定的纠错能力，但这个纠错的时间可能是10年，可能是20年，可能是更长。在这漫长的年月里，会产生多少自闭症儿童，会产生多少深陷痛苦的父母和家庭？We are parents. We want to do better than that. 在现在美国的婴幼儿疫苗schedule里面，MMR是一个三合一的减毒疫苗，也就是有三种活的病毒（虽然说毒性是减量的）在同一针里，这些年来父母有最大疑虑的是这个疫苗。但实际上最主要的问题不在于某一个特定的疫苗针，而在于现在儿医普遍所使用的那个疫苗schedule---一言以蔽之就是：太小的时候就打太多针。 简单的说，从刚出生的婴儿就开始打疫苗，2个月4个月6个月9个月1岁，一针又一针，那些疫苗里面每一针还往往是3-4种的合针。而且美国因为人工贵，为了省事，常规操作是一次打所有的疫苗针。有娃的家长你们数一数你们2个月大的婴儿，一次打多少种病毒的疫苗。 这样就导致有些先天体弱的孩子，受疫苗的影响会比其他孩子更大，从而现在孩子出现了各种各样的病症。这个贴主题虽然是自闭症，但实际上现在孩子很多的病都是婴幼儿疫苗有关联的，包括但不限于ADHD，湿疹，各种各样的过敏，哮喘等等等等。
Not sure there's truly more Autistic boys than girls. One theory is that Autistic girls are better at social mimicking, so they appear to be normal and are not diagnosed.
frogette 发表于 2024-08-22 14:08 Not sure there's truly more Autistic boys than girls. One theory is that Autistic girls are better at social mimicking, so they appear to be normal and are not diagnosed.
我懒，直接扔ChatGPT 的回答。一篇伪造的论文真是贻害万年。 The controversy surrounding autism and vaccines primarily stems from a 1998 study led by Andrew Wakefield, published in The Lancet, which falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. This study suggested that the MMR vaccine caused developmental regression and autism in children. The paper received widespread media attention, leading to public fear, a significant decline in vaccination rates, and a rise in vaccine-preventable diseases. However, the study was deeply flawed. It involved only 12 children, had no control group, and was later found to be unethical. Further investigations revealed that Wakefield had financial conflicts of interest, and he had manipulated data. As a result, The Lancet retracted the paper in 2010, and Wakefield was stripped of his medical license. Since then, numerous large-scale, well-conducted studies have found no credible evidence supporting a link between vaccines and autism. These studies have included hundreds of thousands of children, comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, with consistent results showing that vaccines do not increase the risk of autism. Current Scientific Consensus: The scientific community overwhelmingly agrees that vaccines do not cause autism. Vaccines are safe and effective in preventing serious, potentially life-threatening diseases. The notion of a link between vaccines and autism has been thoroughly debunked by extensive research. Public health authorities, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the American Academy of Pediatrics, continue to advocate for vaccination as a critical component of public health. Efforts are ongoing to educate the public about the safety of vaccines and to combat misinformation that still circulates, often through social media and other platforms. The persistence of vaccine hesitancy, fueled by these debunked claims, remains a public health challenge, but the scientific field is clear: vaccines do not cause autism.
gigivivi 发表于 2024-08-22 14:39 我懒，直接扔ChatGPT 的回答。一篇伪造的论文真是贻害万年。 The controversy surrounding autism and vaccines primarily stems from a 1998 study led by Andrew Wakefield, published in The Lancet, which falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. This study suggested that the MMR vaccine caused developmental regression and autism in children. The paper received widespread media attention, leading to public fear, a significant decline in vaccination rates, and a rise in vaccine-preventable diseases. However, the study was deeply flawed. It involved only 12 children, had no control group, and was later found to be unethical. Further investigations revealed that Wakefield had financial conflicts of interest, and he had manipulated data. As a result, The Lancet retracted the paper in 2010, and Wakefield was stripped of his medical license. Since then, numerous large-scale, well-conducted studies have found no credible evidence supporting a link between vaccines and autism. These studies have included hundreds of thousands of children, comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, with consistent results showing that vaccines do not increase the risk of autism. Current Scientific Consensus: The scientific community overwhelmingly agrees that vaccines do not cause autism. Vaccines are safe and effective in preventing serious, potentially life-threatening diseases. The notion of a link between vaccines and autism has been thoroughly debunked by extensive research. Public health authorities, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the American Academy of Pediatrics, continue to advocate for vaccination as a critical component of public health. Efforts are ongoing to educate the public about the safety of vaccines and to combat misinformation that still circulates, often through social media and other platforms. The persistence of vaccine hesitancy, fueled by these debunked claims, remains a public health challenge, but the scientific field is clear: vaccines do not cause autism.
对婴幼儿疫苗深信不疑，认为一点点问题没有的，请现在就点右上角的x，把此页面关闭，不要浪费时间。
我这个ID好多年不用了，今天特地用来发这个贴。我不和谁辩论，辩论就是你对。这个贴只渡人，渡能渡之人，渡该渡之人。
自闭症是一个家庭沉重的负担，可以说是一生的负担，这个后果太严重。所以作为父母，我们必须谨慎。如果能够做点什么可以最大限度的避免你的孩子得自闭，我相信你不会拒绝。根据CDC的数据，美国孩子出现自闭症的比例逐年增加，这个趋势是非常明显的。作为父母，你们有没有想过为什么。
婴幼儿疫苗绝对是其中一个重要因素。
我相信自闭症(其实还不止自闭症)和婴幼儿疫苗的关联，给予足够长的时间，一定会被数据证明。我相信科学有一定的纠错能力，但这个纠错的时间可能是10年，可能是20年，可能是更长。在这漫长的年月里，会产生多少自闭症儿童，会产生多少深陷痛苦的父母和家庭？We are parents. We want to do better than that.
在现在美国的婴幼儿疫苗schedule里面，MMR是一个三合一的减毒疫苗，也就是有三种活的病毒（虽然说毒性是减量的）在同一针里，这些年来父母有最大疑虑的是这个疫苗。但实际上最主要的问题不在于某一个特定的疫苗针，而在于现在儿医普遍所使用的那个疫苗schedule---一言以蔽之就是：太小的时候就打太多针。
简单的说，从刚出生的婴儿就开始打疫苗，2个月4个月6个月9个月1岁，一针又一针，那些疫苗里面每一针还往往是3-4种的合针。而且美国因为人工贵，为了省事，常规操作是一次打所有的疫苗针。有娃的家长你们数一数你们2个月大的婴儿，一次打多少种病毒的疫苗。
这样就导致有些先天体弱的孩子，受疫苗的影响会比其他孩子更大，从而现在孩子出现了各种各样的病症。这个贴主题虽然是自闭症，但实际上现在孩子很多的病都是婴幼儿疫苗有关联的，包括但不限于ADHD，湿疹，各种各样的过敏，哮喘等等等等。
1. 只打你所在的州，其法律规定必须打的疫苗。你如果对照过CDC的疫苗和州法律要求的疫苗，或者说有娃的家长对照一下在儿医那里你娃打过的疫苗(儿医生一般按CDC的来)，你就会发现你娃打的疫苗数量比州法律要求的疫苗多不少。凡是州法律不要求的疫苗，你都要谨慎考虑。
2. 推迟打所有必须打的疫苗！这点非常重要。至于推迟多久，取决于父母内心能够承受的尺度。我仔细读过州法律对疫苗的要求，是要求所有孩子在上学(也就是过集体生活)之前，打所有州法律要求的疫苗的第一针。之后的boosters，按照州法律要求的间隔来即可。在你孩子打第一针疫苗之前，做你能做的保护他，比如说，不要去室内人多容易感染病毒的地方了，比如体育场馆看球赛了，比如看电影了这些的。
我自己是给孩子推迟到上day care/preschool之前打第一针。我为了孩子能推迟打疫苗，就推迟孩子上学的时间，之前都是请人在家里带。你能接受推迟多久，自己决定，毕竟每家的情况不一样。哪怕只能推迟半年，那都是好的。有的父母缺人手，必须娃很多小就送去day care，那样你记住在送去之前打第一针。
3.打疫苗的时候，如果可能的话，一针一针的打，打一针隔一周，不要一次打所有的针，并挑天气好阳光明媚的天去打。这一点属于额外的，如果你能做到1和2，3其实并不特别必要，是给想要特别谨慎的家长的建议。因为现在家长也都挺忙的，所以一趟趟跑对很多人没这个条件。现在儿医诊所打疫苗都是约护士，也许护士也会嫌烦就是。
4.现在美国，其实除了少部分的州以外，大部分的州都是可以以personal belief或宗教信仰为理由来waive掉法律规定的疫苗。也就是说如果你是一针疫苗都不想打的家长，你去仔细读一下你州里法律对疫苗的要求，很多州都是填个表就可以不打。但声明我个人并不建议此项哈，这由父母自己决定。我个人认为推迟足够的时间打就已经很好了，是个周全的解决方案。
另外要说的是，在我孩子上小学以后，我曾经和娃班里同学的妈妈们聊过疫苗这个问题。惊奇的发现，他们当中的很多人，都是认为婴幼儿只有几个月就打那么多针，直觉是太小了！所以他们中的很多人都是推迟打疫苗的。当然我娃同学白人为主哈。但此问题我认为无关种族。只是华人真的是打疫苗非常的积极非常的乖的，所以我想特地提醒各位父母注意。
你又补了辣么多，我删了
美国婴儿疫苗毫无疑问太多太多了
另外，自闭症是一个谱，涵盖了很多各种不同的症状和严重程度，促成结果的因素有很多，比如饮食，比如亲子关系，比如先天的基因等，不可能一个因素就回答了所有问题。
回答这个帖子的标题，怎么最大限度地避免？那就是父母吃好睡好心情好，做一个心理成熟并有坚强内核的人，可以带给孩子健康的身体和心理，就算孩子有了自闭症，也不会觉得天塌下来了。
目前能做的就是：别找阿斯伯格老公生孩子，婚前多打听对方家庭有无精神病史； 怀孕前三个月补够叶酸；别跟老男人生孩子。
嗯,诈骗犯也是一样的,骗一个算一个,你说它们是骗子它们就不敢再跟你讲话了.
Not sure there's truly more Autistic boys than girls. One theory is that Autistic girls are better at social mimicking, so they appear to be normal and are not diagnosed.
自闭症女孩跟男孩比例1:4。 自闭症女孩子虽然少，但一旦得了一般就比男孩严重。 这是我参加本地自闭症义工组织得到的信息，也有亲身的观察，做活动的时候很明显一屋子男孩寥寥几个女孩。
也有的五岁才发现哦。
“并挑天气好阳光明媚的天去打”，天气会影响疫苗在人体的作用，还是咋的。
ASD可能和X染色体上突变相关。所以自闭的男孩多于女孩，同时女孩得病会比较重。你在一个义工组织的信息更证明这一点。同时，来源于母亲的线粒体的功能，也与ASD相关。
去年12月的文章, ASD可能和X染色体上突变相关。 Rare X-linked variants carry predominantly male risk in autism, Tourette syndrome, and ADHD https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-43776-0
再加上只来自母亲的线粒体，是应该别找可能有ASD/ADHD risk的老婆。
这个很好理解啊，疫苗对不同性别的影响可以不同的，比如新冠疫苗能引发男孩得心肌炎就比女孩多得多，这连FDA自己都承认的呀。
The controversy surrounding autism and vaccines primarily stems from a 1998 study led by Andrew Wakefield, published in The Lancet, which falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. This study suggested that the MMR vaccine caused developmental regression and autism in children. The paper received widespread media attention, leading to public fear, a significant decline in vaccination rates, and a rise in vaccine-preventable diseases. However, the study was deeply flawed. It involved only 12 children, had no control group, and was later found to be unethical. Further investigations revealed that Wakefield had financial conflicts of interest, and he had manipulated data. As a result, The Lancet retracted the paper in 2010, and Wakefield was stripped of his medical license. Since then, numerous large-scale, well-conducted studies have found no credible evidence supporting a link between vaccines and autism. These studies have included hundreds of thousands of children, comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, with consistent results showing that vaccines do not increase the risk of autism.
Current Scientific Consensus: The scientific community overwhelmingly agrees that vaccines do not cause autism. Vaccines are safe and effective in preventing serious, potentially life-threatening diseases. The notion of a link between vaccines and autism has been thoroughly debunked by extensive research. Public health authorities, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the American Academy of Pediatrics, continue to advocate for vaccination as a critical component of public health. Efforts are ongoing to educate the public about the safety of vaccines and to combat misinformation that still circulates, often through social media and other platforms. The persistence of vaccine hesitancy, fueled by these debunked claims, remains a public health challenge, but the scientific field is clear: vaccines do not cause autism.
不说lz结论对不对，你的逻辑很差啊，疫苗为啥不能挑男女？一个药物男女response不同很正常吧？不同年龄response不同也正常。
你说的不对 女孩子和男孩子表现不同
垃圾，我说的是ChatGPT Output.
了解，真理是掌握在少数人手里的，所有明面上的文献和证据都是伪造的，权威打压了真相，对吧？
为了防止我再进这帖子，拉黑楼主了哈。没有任何不尊重的意思，也抱歉如果这个行为冒犯了您。我知道下面对我会有怎样的诋毁攻击和污蔑，眼不见心不烦。
LOL
很早以前华人也有个帖子说类似的情况，但是更严重，打完mmr不正常了两个月
我也想说这个。那就的看没疫苗之前自闭症的男女比例了。
那时候父母很少大龄，35岁的极少。手机无线网络辐射也少。人的生活单调的多但是也更有规律。环境污染没现在严重。
非常感谢我家老印儿医当时让我家老大推迟打了mmr，而且我记得mmr那针是单独打的，当时我什么也不懂。医生就说打太多了（好像原本是和另外两个疫苗一起打的），这个mmr下一次再打吧。
不把孩子生出来就可以100%避免孩子得自闭症
我也拉黑这帖子不作无谓的争论～
如果你认为男孩因为基因和女孩的差异，天生就自闭更多，那么因此对疫苗的抵抗力有差异，被疫苗造成自闭比女孩多就很合理了。男女差异怎么能用来证明疫苗安全不会导致自闭？还有这么多点赞？基本的逻辑思维能力都没有，难怪疫苗教这么盛行了
关于疫苗已经有很多贴子，该说的基本都说了，就感叹一下刚生下来的完全健康的婴儿，就敢往他们脆弱稚嫩的身体里打药厂推销的内容不明的毒针，大人都知道是药三分毒，吃的药都要小心，给婴儿打几十毒针？简直疯了
这个说法我觉得比较靠谱。疫苗里的某些成分，trigger了基因里的缺陷。
现在确实比过去多。我小时候生活在一个研究所大院儿里。邻居同时也是父母的同事们，孩子们上的都是同一所学校，哪家有点儿啥事根本瞒不住。
我的小伙伴们，我哥哥姐姐的小伙伴们，加一起至少有一两百个孩子了，没有一个自闭的。倒有一些性格比较软弱的，经常会被欺负，但是长大以后都很正常。家长里也没有一个，都是学理科的知识分子。
转基因产品，空气污染，人造饮料，加工食品，有毒食品添加剂，各种合成药物等等，不但对自闭，对人类整体健康水平，包括生育率，都有巨大的负面影响。