Very interesting. It looks people never learn from the history... from american indians, to jewish people in world war 2, to indonisia's anti-chinese riots, to Palestinians of today
Not really. There are period and time in history that women can't vote , black can't mix live with white , no interracial marriage between races ，Asian can't get jobs , the portrait of Asians are all grossly wrong and negative in major medias and entertainment: These all were once LAW and facts. . 现在我们有的都是看清现实放弃幻想开始战斗的人们斗争来的。我们不能轻易放弃这些。 社会是可以倒车的。极端请看阿富汗。
回复 26楼 半个马和甲 的帖子 There isn’t any prove that trump would do something against human rights nor would he reverse all the progress that we have made over the last few decades please remember that he has been the president before,and we didn’t become Afghanistan
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 16:28 回复 26楼 半个马和甲 的帖子 There isn’t any prove that trump would do something against human rights nor would he reverse all the progress that we have made over the last few decades please remember that he has been the president before,and we didn’t become Afghanistan
回复 41楼 wacxg 的帖子 There is no reason to be rude,if you disagree with me then tell me how I am wrong and your political views,you don’t need to say what you think you know about my education level,especially when you don’t know anything about me
agree with lz. i watched the whole speech of Trump on RNC - he didn't only mention china, in fact, he mention a lot more about mexico, russia, north korea: mexico illegal immigrants, mexico cartels, russian invation, north korea missile tests, etc. etc.. he talked about the weak position the US is at now in the world landscape, and mentioned those countries that he would negotiate with if he were elected. china was mentioned along those lines, and i think it's reasonable given the narratives he was trying to deliver. i don't believe chinese in the US would be the targeted population just because of this. he criticized mexico illegal immigrants and cartels - does that mean mexicans in the US would be targeted population too? no one would believe that. there are too many people on this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda. i'd encourage everyone who come to US for a better life to really look and listen closely what each candidate proposes, then make a conscious decision, if you have voting right.
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 16:44 回复 41楼 wacxg 的帖子 There is no reason to be rude,if you disagree with me then tell me how I am wrong and your political views,you don’t need to say what you think you know about my education level,especially when you don’t know anything about me
There is no reason to be rude. If you disagree with me, then tell me how I am wrong and share your political views. You don’t need to comment on what you think you know about my education level, especially when you don’t know anything about me.
marsala 发表于 2024-07-25 16:46 agree with lz. i watched the whole speech of Trump on RNC - he didn't only mention china, in fact, he mention a lot more about mexico, russia, north korea: mexico illegal immigrants, mexico cartels, russian invation, north korea missile tests, etc. etc.. he talked about the weak position the US is at now in the world landscape, and mentioned those countries that he would negotiate with if he were elected. china was mentioned along those lines, and i think it's reasonable given the narratives he was trying to deliver. i don't believe chinese in the US would be the targeted population just because of this. he criticized mexico illegal immigrants and cartels - does that mean mexicans in the US would be targeted population too? no one would believe that. there are too many people on this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda. i'd encourage everyone who come to US for a better life to really look and listen closely what each candidate proposes, then make a conscious decision, if you have voting right.
marsala 发表于 2024-07-25 16:46 agree with lz. i watched the whole speech of Trump on RNC - he didn't only mention china, in fact, he mention a lot more about mexico, russia, north korea: mexico illegal immigrants, mexico cartels, russian invation, north korea missile tests, etc. etc.. he talked about the weak position the US is at now in the world landscape, and mentioned those countries that he would negotiate with if he were elected. china was mentioned along those lines, and i think it's reasonable given the narratives he was trying to deliver. i don't believe chinese in the US would be the targeted population just because of this. he criticized mexico illegal immigrants and cartels - does that mean mexicans in the US would be targeted population too? no one would believe that. there are too many people on this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda. i'd encourage everyone who come to US for a better life to really look and listen closely what each candidate proposes, then make a conscious decision, if you have voting right.
“too many peopleon this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda.” 您真厉害，一张嘴就把在这儿的好多讨论政治（实际上就是斗嘴）的人，扣成"have their agenda"了。。。 另外谁真把候选人说的那些高大上的好听话当真啊。。。谁竞选的时候不往好了说呢？差别就是这个人可能说的是你更在乎的方向，那个人可能说的是别人更在乎的方向而已。 从事实来看，很多事（犯罪，非法移民，经济。。。），大家可能嘴上的政策不同，但现实就是，这些“不同"，基本上只是大趋势下的小波折而已。还真以为共和党就能对付零元购？有没有零元购，犯罪率如何，更大程度取决于当地的人口组成和经济发展 。我们这儿也是民主党的地区，周围可没啥零元购发生。 对中国的态度也是类似，大方向在哪儿，老川老拜都针对中国有不少动作。 但共和党明显突出的“成绩”（就是，不光说，还真的做到了）还是有几项的。比如，在老川时代搞的China Initiative - 这个民主党没有能与之相比的成绩哦。再有就是这些年一些红州的共和党推动的对中国人限制购地的法案 - 这个也没民主党的成就能比拟的。还有就是共和党推动的基督教极端群体的成长（反堕胎，圣经进入学校），这些，对于我们这种不属于基督教文化的弱势群体的影响，你大概是不在乎的？
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 16:28 回复 26楼 半个马和甲 的帖子 There isn’t any prove that trump would do something against human rights nor would he reverse all the progress that we have made over the last few decades please remember that he has been the president before,and we didn’t become Afghanistan
Donald Trump is a Con man. Look at his track records as a business man and a tax payer. If you still believe a word coming out of his mouth, I have a bridge to sell to you.
回复 71楼 Dubs4life 的帖子 I never say I like Donald Trump,compared to democrats ideas i like republicans ideas and he is one that represents them,i just wanted to say that he was the previous president and we didn’t go to hell
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 17:34 回复 71楼 Dubs4life 的帖子 I never say I like Donald Trump,compared to democrats ideas i like republicans ideas and he is one that represents them,i just wanted to say that he was the previous president and we didn’t go to hell
楼主标题提到了个人崇拜，所以我摘抄一段 The Project asserts that the entire executive branch is under the direct control of the president under the unitary executive theory.[6][7] It proposes reclassifying tens of thousands of federal civil service workers as political appointees, in order to replace them with loyalists more willing to enable Trump's policies.
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 18:13 回复 94楼 lwhale 的帖子 About project 2025 your source is doesn’t prove anything because there is no evidence to support he will really do it
Fi088 发表于 2024-07-25 18:13 回复 94楼 lwhale 的帖子 About project 2025 your source is doesn’t prove anything because there is no evidence to support he will really do it
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主楼理中客， 回帖下场大战三百回合， 这个就是她们单细胞脑子想出的策略
其实吧， 川粉的味道， 隔着屏幕都能把人熏死， 她们还在装着傻白甜， 实在不算聪明
泥土里面打滚的哥
有才的人真是越来越多了
“关键是不能糊弄自己。”
笑死了
这个楼主和隔壁紫苏类似，都是上来装啥也不懂要跟大家讨论，但默默带风向的。也不知道是不是他们最新指导方针 其实讨论一下挺好的。自己支持谁不用遮遮掩掩。我今年坚决支持Harris打败种族主义bully集团。America needs to move forward。历史的车轮总会向前滚动。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
你说的其他话，让人觉得你很久没有上过网，也不看新闻。
Imagine an average American, then realize half of the nation is stupider than that.
别费心了，说破嘴， 我们不会投给trump
被叫China virus , 我们不爽是我们自己做主的感觉， 凭啥听你证明不应该觉得“不爽”？
“楼主从来不发帖， “不懂就问哈， “我不是川粉，
川粉发帖开头系列
某个政治家专门歧视哪里人 - 大部分政治家可能犯不着这么做，但他们和支持者的一些行为就导致了对这种排外势力的鼓励和支持。
某些政治家与其支持者们的行为与口号，实质上在煽动/鼓励那些排外的势力和群体而已。
当然你可以认为china initiative是合理合法的调查，所以不算针对华人。你也可以认为红州共和党针对中国人买房限制的法案只是针对中国人，不是针对华人，而且人家也合理合法。你也可以认为红州共和党推动的反堕胎，让圣经进学校的那些法案，只是他们争取他们的权利，而不是代表那些基督教极端势力（与排外势力有相当的重合）的兴起。
另外呢，关于“希望美国变好”，这个总得来说是大趋势决定的，谁上台的影响，只是大趋势下的小小波浪而已。此外，“过去四年美国到底有没有变好也是显而易见的”，我还觉得“过去八年美国到底有没有变好也是显而易见的”呢。。。大家对什么是“好”，以及哪些方面的“好”更有意义，想法也会不同。所以说“希望美国变好”，基本上就是个空话，意义不大。
也不是说教育水平，大部分人的基本素质还是可以的
当然是读过书的谢谢
我有看新闻不是老太太，谢谢提醒！
你还是不发帖的好，这一发帖显得你智商胎教水平
既然不是川粉的可以不停发帖，我发一下怎么滴，一天到晚揪着virus不放，出门也没人喊你的吧
啊？ 所以你不期待有人会保护华人，但是觉得没有哪个总统会针对华人哈
没说你不能发啊， 我喷的重点是你身为川粉装理中客装无辜 你看你这回答这不就原形毕露了啊？
听我的， 川粉有很深的逻辑风格烙印， 你们发帖隔着屏幕都能闻出来，这种装X风格真的只能徒增笑柄
That was JD.Vance who said that
过去四年美国的确变好了，拜登总统还可以做的更好。
These all were once LAW and facts. . 现在我们有的都是看清现实放弃幻想开始战斗的人们斗争来的。我们不能轻易放弃这些。
社会是可以倒车的。极端请看阿富汗。
借lz个锅盖。
自恋、自私、无耻、精神病、满口谎言没有一句实话。
Trump 反中其实是半真半假，虚虚实实，实际上中国政府和中国领导人是他喜爱的（之一）。
And he is on the ticket!
请礼貌回帖尊重别人也是尊重自己
总统会针对华人，美国有足够的法律和建制可以保护华人不会受到政府系统性的迫害。 什么共和党要命，集中营之类的都是BS。 但是在总统的煽动下，社会上针对华人的种族仇恨犯罪会增多。
急了，破防了你？所以你承认是川粉了？
我只是支持某个party而已，没有急
“美国有足够的法律和建制可以保护华人不会受到政府系统性的迫害” 排华法案那么快就忘了哈
按你的逻辑，从当年纳粹德国的教育来看，也不可能出现对希特勒的崇拜
所以你支持一个推动china initiative的party。你支持一个在自己控制的州里推动对中国人买房限制的法案的party。 你支持一个在自己控制的州里推动反堕胎法案，让圣经进学校的那些法案的party。对吧？
因为你觉得这个party"对美国好“？
我们也希望美国变的（按我们的希望的那种）”好“，我们是小爱，更在意自己以及华人这种相对弱势的，不属于传统基督教文化圈的群体受到的（不是猜的，而是已经发生了的）负面影响。你是”大爱“， 更在乎广大”美国人民“如何如何？没问题，大家希望的”好“不同而已。
法律也可以随意翻篇，谁能想到灯塔国连女人的堕胎的权利都要禁止
There isn’t any prove that trump would do something against human rights nor would he reverse all the progress that we have made over the last few decades please remember that he has been the president before,and we didn’t become Afghanistan
LOL I really don't think you worth it...
现在都2024年了。。。 社会是在进步的，拿百年前的旧法律举例，就好比川粉拿spanish flu的旧例来justify china virus的叫法一样。
还是暴露了吧。别装了。
还法律保护? 排华法案不是法律? 德州和某些红州不是通过了不允许某些国籍背景的人买房/地 这些垃圾大法官上去了, 你高院都可以乱来. 你们和红脖子一样天天反对政治正确, 迟早能把反对种族歧视这条政治正确去掉.
所言极是！川普连普通人的道德水准都没有，能选上总统，还能再次竞选，说明美国选举制度和司法有严重问题，同时民众意识形态有极大分歧……
There is no reason to be rude,if you disagree with me then tell me how I am wrong and your political views,you don’t need to say what you think you know about my education level,especially when you don’t know anything about me
there are too many people on this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda. i'd encourage everyone who come to US for a better life to really look and listen closely what each candidate proposes, then make a conscious decision, if you have voting right.
There is no reason to be rude. If you disagree with me, then tell me how I am wrong and share your political views. You don’t need to comment on what you think you know about my education level, especially when you don’t know anything about me.
Thank you!
排华法案是什么时候的事？
所以川普说 Chinese virus 时你什么感受呢？
佛州不让中国人买房什么时候事？
这是在拜登任内发生的
“too many people on this forum that are spending too much time talking just about politics - they apparently have their agenda.”
您真厉害，一张嘴就把在这儿的好多讨论政治（实际上就是斗嘴）的人，扣成"have their agenda"了。。。
另外谁真把候选人说的那些高大上的好听话当真啊。。。谁竞选的时候不往好了说呢？差别就是这个人可能说的是你更在乎的方向，那个人可能说的是别人更在乎的方向而已。
从事实来看，很多事（犯罪，非法移民，经济。。。），大家可能嘴上的政策不同，但现实就是，这些“不同"，基本上只是大趋势下的小波折而已。还真以为共和党就能对付零元购？有没有零元购，犯罪率如何，更大程度取决于当地的人口组成和经济发展 。我们这儿也是民主党的地区，周围可没啥零元购发生。
对中国的态度也是类似，大方向在哪儿，老川老拜都针对中国有不少动作。
但共和党明显突出的“成绩”（就是，不光说，还真的做到了）还是有几项的。比如，在老川时代搞的China Initiative - 这个民主党没有能与之相比的成绩哦。再有就是这些年一些红州的共和党推动的对中国人限制购地的法案 - 这个也没民主党的成就能比拟的。还有就是共和党推动的基督教极端群体的成长（反堕胎，圣经进入学校），这些，对于我们这种不属于基督教文化的弱势群体的影响，你大概是不在乎的？
不需要评论我的头像吧，我只是表达自己的看法而已
为啥当年加州对华人的歧视会变成全国的政策？为啥日本人二战被关集中营？为啥铁幕刚拉开时，即使奥本海默这样的牛人也免不了被政客整？
单纯被最后说的最后四年到底有没有变好显而易见搞困惑了。😂是想说变好还是没变好？
佛州有排华么？
那你怎么解释几十年前的roe v wade被推翻了啊
注意，justify旧例和警惕旧例复辟，恰好是光谱的两端，不是一端
长春人为啥会被饿死几十万？原因是啥？有了解过嘛？
如果选民选了一个没有道德的人，没什么问题，反正没人是圣人，更何况道德标准本来就是主观的，美国三权分立可以制衡，从来没指望能选出圣人
Donald Trump is a Con man. Look at his track records as a business man and a tax payer. If you still believe a word coming out of his mouth, I have a bridge to sell to you.
本人也认为进华人集体进集中营的可能性较小。但一个极其不体面的偏激总统，没脑子的底层被其煽动，一天天，一层层加码， 到了某临界值全国性仇华暴乱的可能性很大。 川普上次在台上，全美反华政治环境，跟现在根本没有可比性。
楼主主要还是太年轻，不了解人性丑恶
本人一直投共和党，但有川普在，只能改投，保命为上。
I never say I like Donald Trump,compared to democrats ideas i like republicans ideas and he is one that represents them,i just wanted to say that he was the previous president and we didn’t go to hell
啥？ Trump represents Republican ideas???????? 年度笑话吗？
共和党内的建制派都已经被MAGA党清洗的差不多了，楼主过去10年没看任何新闻？？
对等吧，中国也不让美国人买房啊。中国规定必须要有户口和社保证明，就是要有工作才能买房，美国有HIB 绿卡就可以买房。是同样条件。
谢谢你说了我想说了，我都不敢讲了
有毛病吧，现在是你们红太阳川普不但没有对Chinese virus道歉，反而几天前又说过一次。你来说华人不应该揪着不放？你掩着耳朵就没这事了吗？
川粉想拉票，最好的办法是push川普赶快就Chinese virus对美国华人道歉，而不是让别人假装听不见。他道歉并永不再说，这个话题才能不再讨论。
排华法案不真对美华这种鬼话你都信？？
当初最早来美国的那批华人，都是啥遭遇和下场？ 要不要去了解一下。。
Chinese virus trump特别到过谦了，说不是指华人。这次提China virus是指病毒从中国来的或中国制造。
对于共和党在红州推那些限制中国人买房的法案，大家说这是在鼓励煽动对中国人的敌意，当然会影响到我们在美的华人群体。您前面的反驳是，人家这么做有理，中国也这么做？
可惜了，我们不是在美国法庭上打官司，也不是在给美国大众宣传要大家支持我们。我们就是在这儿自个儿说几句而已，所以犯不着去把这事说的多么高大上（比如，涉及种族歧视。。。违宪。。。）。我们就是从会被这类排外思潮和群体的崛起影响的人的角度说说自个儿对此的负面看法而已。
您要从这个什么都从“人家”的立场出发的态度，大家没啥好谈的了。。。您从“人家”的立场说的很好啊，但我们也不是不知道那些不喜欢我们这些外国（特别是非白人）移民的群体的立场，您真不用这么事事都替他们发声啦。
川普自己发过推说自己不知道这个project 25，更没有参与。
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/5C9mZMT-99Wm-Kwihh0m4A
“参加聚会时候，Brown一只手挽着老婆，另一只手牵着女友”，来自报道的原话。贺锦丽(Harris，哈瑞斯)就是这种情况下在94年跟Brown约会上了，29岁配60岁。
Brown亲口承认自己帮贺锦丽得到加州政府部门两个高薪工作。几年之间就有好几十万美元收入进账，那还是30年前的物价。而她其实并没有相关的工作背景。Brown还给贺锦丽送名车，美国加州版宝马女一枚。
这位大手大脚花钱的主，官运在2003年后不再那么亨通，陷入FBI的贪腐调查。Brown幽幽口诉那段经历时提及，他帮过的人除了贺锦丽，还有纽森，佩洛西，Feinstein等多位加州民主党大佬，但是在他困难阶段喊要把他抓起来的，还只有贺锦丽一人。
说说这个china virus,你觉得特朗普敢对一个美籍华人说你是china virus吗，送他一百个胆子他都不敢，今天说明天就就不用干了，所以他说的china virus 什么意思非常明显
川普今天早上fox news才说了同意project 2025的一些纲领。你们要不要更新一下你们的组织文件
微信qq文章当source？
使女是你的榜样。
如果wiki说谎，请走流程修改wiki
这个级别的为什么要对着一个人说。 就是对着对着几百万美籍华人喊话。
川粉不知道怎么有这么多国内自媒体文章看和分享
我从来没听说过川普因为这个道过歉。他在不同场合不止说过一次。 你有他道歉的来源吗？
不懂就问，如果你真在美国为什么总看国内微信自媒体文章？
歧视华人最厉害的是加州， 也是排华法案起始推动者。有这段黑暗历史， 加州同学要不先撤一步？ 不过时代变了， 总不能老拿这说事。
加州几代同学凭自己的斗争都把加州变蓝了，撤个啥，应该再接再厉把法西斯都赶出去
About project 2025 your source is doesn’t prove anything because there is no evidence to support he will really do it
这个对等就太假了，中国是不让外国人买房，不让外国人买房的政策也不是中国一家独有。佛州是不让中国俄罗斯这几个国家的人买，再缩小一点，基本定向中国。另外，我觉得lz的想法有点天真了，被煽动起来的底层红脖子和Proud boys打砸抢华裔的时候可不管法律。
当别人明显通过这种法案，造成针对我们的排外情绪受到鼓励的时候，楼上那位就是来跟大家说：人家通过这法案是有理由的，没有什么错。。。
我们不是在法院讨论他们的行为是不是违宪，也不是在向美国大众宣传他们的行为多么不合“美国精神”。我们只是在这里大家自个儿跟自个儿讨论，说出我们是受到这类行为负面影响的群体而已。
我就很奇怪了，为啥总有楼上那样，站在那些排外的群体的立场来这里替他们的行为找理由的呢？
这么讨论就没意思了。 竞选时的口号，大纲，拥护方的提议，没有一个能是evidence,那还选什么
排华法案是1943年废除的，跟加州同学没关系。 中间差了半个多世纪。
其实还要什么evidence，想一想1/6吧。