女儿可能得了抑郁症或者躁郁症(bipolar)

公用马甲37
楼主 (北美华人网)
18岁的女儿,多年焦虑症,从今年年初开始情绪波动很大,有时会depressed甚至有自杀念头。从1月底开始看精神科医生,医生开的lexapro对焦虑有缓解,但抑郁似乎还加重了,5月底医生加了一种稳定情绪的药物(aripiprazole),至今没看到效果。前几天让把lexapro停掉换成venlafaxine,今天又抑郁发作了一次,医生说要看一段药物效果再判断。 我对这个医生很不满意,只知道开药,从来没有诊断她是什么类型的疾病。已经找了一位新医生,但要到7月中下旬才能见面。 在网上研究了一些,开始以为是抑郁症,但她大部分时间还是正常的,看起来很开心的样子,似乎不符合抑郁症的标准。她自己判断有些像bipolar disorder II,但我们没有发现她特别狂躁亢奋的时候,只是时不时会抑郁发作,情绪极度低落,有自残倾向。请教有经验的家长或专业人士,这到底是什么毛病呢?
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louaci
这个估计最好全家一起看therapy, 估计需要一段时间慢慢恢复,光吃药治标不治本,要找到根本原因。加拿大李维榕师从family therapy 大师,去看看有没有类似的therapy, 即使保险不包都值得试一下,一般药物和cognitive behavior therapy短期会有一定改善但长期找不到根本的话效果就不显著了。psychologist psychiatrist 都要去看看。为什么一直焦虑,平时家庭学校朋友的关系怎么样,父母关系怎么样了,兄弟姐妹间关系怎么样,一直这么发展下来一般不仅是突然的事件而是长期累积起来的,所以family therapy很重要。要是美国这里太慢,可以试试武志红app国内也好多心理咨询,至少先聊上看看怎么回事。抑郁焦虑很多光吃药只是暂时把症状压下去,一定要找到原因,找到什么情绪被压抑而不自知。还有这时就别急着说快点搞好去上学干正事什么,所谓上学工作正事这些都没有身心健康重要,一定要极大耐心去支持你女儿,做父母的也要关注自己的身心健康。
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dvdhe
Per ChatGPT:
Possible Diagnosis of Depression or Bipolar Disorder
My 18-year-old daughter has been suffering from anxiety for many years. Since the beginning of this year, her mood has been very volatile. Sometimes she gets depressed and even has suicidal thoughts. She started seeing a psychiatrist at the end of January. The doctor prescribed Lexapro, which has alleviated her anxiety but seems to have worsened her depression. At the end of May, the doctor added a mood stabilizer (aripiprazole), but there has been no noticeable improvement. A few days ago, the doctor switched her from Lexapro to venlafaxine. However, she had another depressive episode today, and the doctor mentioned that we need to observe the effects of the medication over time before making further judgments.
I am very dissatisfied with this doctor because he only prescribes medication and has never diagnosed what type of illness she has. We have already found a new doctor, but the appointment is not until mid-July.
After doing some research online, I initially thought it was depression. However, most of the time, she still appears normal and happy, which doesn't seem to fit the criteria for depression. She herself thinks it might be bipolar disorder II, but we haven't noticed any particularly manic episodes. She only occasionally has depressive episodes with self-harm tendencies. I would like to ask experienced parents or professionals: what exactly could this condition be?
Response
Understanding your daughter's condition requires a comprehensive evaluation by a qualified mental health professional. Here are some points to consider while awaiting the new doctor's appointment:
Comprehensive Assessment:
Ensure the new psychiatrist conducts a thorough evaluation, including her medical history, family history, detailed symptom tracking, and psychological testing if necessary.
Diagnostic Clarification:
Major Depressive Disorder (MDD): Often characterized by persistent sadness, loss of interest in activities, changes in appetite or sleep, fatigue, feelings of worthlessness, and recurrent thoughts of death or suicide.
Bipolar Disorder II: Involves at least one major depressive episode and at least one hypomanic episode (less severe than full mania), characterized by elevated mood, increased activity or energy, and other symptoms that are noticeable but not severe enough to cause significant impairment in daily functioning.
Medication Management:
Lexapro (escitalopram): An SSRI, can sometimes worsen symptoms in bipolar disorder by triggering manic or hypomanic episodes.
Aripiprazole: Atypical antipsychotic often used as a mood stabilizer in bipolar disorder, but may take several weeks to show effects.
Venlafaxine: An SNRI, which can be effective for anxiety and depression but also requires careful monitoring, especially in bipolar disorder, to avoid triggering manic episodes.
Symptom Monitoring:
Keep a daily journal of her moods, behaviors, sleep patterns, and any other symptoms. This can provide valuable information for her new psychiatrist.
Support Systems:
Ensure she has access to a strong support network, including family, friends, and possibly a therapist or counselor.
Safety Plan:
Given her suicidal thoughts and self-harm tendencies, have a safety plan in place. This might include crisis hotline numbers, removing means of self-harm, and having emergency contacts readily available.

Seeking Professional Guidance
Given the complexity of mood disorders, it's crucial to have a professional guide the diagnosis and treatment process. Bipolar disorder, especially Bipolar II, can sometimes be challenging to diagnose because hypomanic episodes may be less noticeable. The new psychiatrist should take a holistic approach, considering all aspects of her mental health and personal history.

Conclusion
While waiting for the new appointment, continue monitoring her symptoms closely, ensure she feels supported, and keep communicating with healthcare professionals about any changes or concerns. It's essential to find a treatment plan that addresses her specific needs, and a thorough diagnostic evaluation is a critical first step.
弹指芳华
这种还是不要自我诊断吧。还是看专业医生吧,是psychiatrist吗?不信任现在这个就换一个。
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gokgs
多看几个医生。
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Baobao6518
有自杀倾向,就是抑郁症,一定要找到适合自己的药和心理医生
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dinglingling
找另外的医生看看吧, bless 你女儿尽快康复
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riple
therapist也很重要,需要有个她能信任的人和她定期的聊聊,多试几个找到她愿意聊的。
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niceview
Big Bless, 一定要有耐心。学会和你女儿沟通。有事她能和你们说, 你们能帮到她最好。她自己也慢慢学习表达情绪,应对生活中的事情。
又送春归去
这还是身体有问题,才表现出抑郁。把身体的问题解决了估计就好了
天长水远
父母一定要有耐心多多陪伴,什么都没有身心健康重要
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jellynsyrup
有没有排除遗传因素?这个一定要重视,把别的东西通通排在后面,早点干预
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sighaaaa
应该全家一起去看看,或者最少妈妈和女儿一起。楼主知道女儿为什么焦虑吗?有没有深入一些的交流,有没有试图是理解一下女儿的想法?很多时候父母和孩子的关系可能有很多问题,包括孩子在学校,朋友圈,青春期都有很多困惑和问题。这个需要专业的人给指出来,然后双方都要努力一下去改善。感觉光吃药是治标不治本。
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chipmunk
换医生试试,bless
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singingIris
家族有沒有BIPOLAR 或者抑鬱症病史?
以前幫助治療過抑鬱症轉BIPOLAR 的, 患者掙扎了很多年, 最後治好是靠著家庭的支持和宗教信仰. 不少年輕孩子的精神類疾病都和過去世以及家族業力有關. 父母有興趣可以看看這本書 the road less travelled 自己過去讀博士很順利但也一直被抑鬱症影響, 偏離了原本的靈魂道路, 直到後來轉行回歸正途人生才重新振奮起來.
LOVE AND HOPE
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Dollvalley
bless 你女儿尽快康复
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xiaoqiu123
bless
虽然抑郁有各种表现, 但是基本的底层原理都是一样的, 就是觉得不快乐。 多让她做能给她带来快乐的事情, 减少会给她压力让她不快乐的事情。父母一起看心里医生挺好的, 父母自己快乐起来才能让孩子快乐
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LaCampanella
不是很懂地说,如楼上建议,最好看family therapy。以前我看心理学说,bipolar常和NPD成对出现。。。身边有没有人是NPD?一般NPD都不会承认自己有问题,会拒绝看心理医生。。。
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daodao32
不懂帮顶 bless楼主女儿快快好起来
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uchiming3
aripiprazole是主治疗双向躁狂的药,对抑郁相帮助不大。精神类疾病通常需要试很多的药才能找到适合自己的。多换几个psychiatrist试试,精神类疾病一定要早发现,早治疗,相信西医,按时服用药物。
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nextspring
抑郁症严重或者已经多年了,一般还是要吃药的。 调整药估计有适应期,不能着急,还有,有的要调整好几次。 找有经验的精神科医生,能信任的,不要着急。 找到适合的药,可以稳定的。 抑郁症的类型有可能有的比较交叉重合,即使有诊断类别,一般还是要吃药,而药效又因人而异。所以,还是有试药和反复调整的过程。 避免自己诊断,一定要找个医生,然后要信任医生。我们毕竟不是专业的,抑郁症有可能是长期的,但控制好了按时吃药是可以正常生活的。 我们传统的观念是吃药不好, 或者 吃药应该能治好就不用再吃了。 把它当作是三高一样的病,有些人一辈子吃药,也长寿活得很好。 就比方女儿的这方面化学物质的平衡能力弱,需要吃药辅助。 祝福早点找到合适的治疗
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Katie2mm
Bipolar即使2型,应该会有一段抑郁期,再一段躁郁期交替。如果情绪转换过快,可以瞬间变脸,有自杀想法并且自残或者其他行为,也有边缘性人格可能性。另外,想想家族中,父系和母系,有没有人有抑郁,焦虑和 impulsive 性格的。