回复 27楼 的帖子 月球没有大气活动,没有洋流移动,没有河流冲刷,通过撞击形成,应该是差不多的,起码微量成分应该类似。 没水就更没道理了。因为月球没有大气层,是真空,经历这么多次撞击,最后应该是洒落在各地 以我有限的知识,推断就是,美国的月球土壤是假的。 还有,美国宇航员送给荷兰的月球岩石,已经证实造假了,没想到送给法国的也是假的。 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/museum-s-moon-rock-is-mere-wood-1778405.html The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by US astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood. Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity. "It''s a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it." The museum acquired the rock after the death of former prime minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees had received it as a private gift on 9 October 1969 from the then-US ambassador J William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts. Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had received it from the US State Department. He could not be reached for comment yesterday. The US embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.
这个应该是论文。。。 中国之前有类似论文。 法国做的只是把手里的美国土壤和中国土壤,再对比 我自己根据现有的论文做了一个图,后面的是美国宣称的,阿波罗12,14的制图。 Instrumental Neutron Activation Analysis of Chang’E-5 Lunar Regolith Samples | Journal of the American Chemical Society (acs.org) 这并不一定说明,阿波罗登月没拿到土壤,只能说明,美国给了法国假的月壤,。美国给自己挖的坑是,声称自己有几百斤,但是实际可能没那么多。 美国宣称的,阿波罗土壤结构,其实和嫦娥的很像的。
回复 27楼 的帖子 月球没有大气活动,没有洋流移动,没有河流冲刷,通过撞击形成,应该是差不多的,起码微量成分应该类似。 没水就更没道理了。因为月球没有大气层,是真空,经历这么多次撞击,最后应该是洒落在各地 以我有限的知识,推断就是,美国的月球土壤是假的。 还有,美国宇航员送给荷兰的月球岩石,已经证实造假了,没想到送给法国的也是假的。 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/museum-s-moon-rock-is-mere-wood-1778405.html The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by US astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood. Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity. "It''s a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it." The museum acquired the rock after the death of former prime minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees had received it as a private gift on 9 October 1969 from the then-US ambassador J William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts. Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had received it from the US State Department. He could not be reached for comment yesterday. The US embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter. minqidev 发表于 2024-06-24 09:47
minqidev 发表于 2024-06-24 09:47 回复 27楼 的帖子 月球没有大气活动,没有洋流移动,没有河流冲刷,通过撞击形成,应该是差不多的,起码微量成分应该类似。 没水就更没道理了。因为月球没有大气层,是真空,经历这么多次撞击,最后应该是洒落在各地 以我有限的知识,推断就是,美国的月球土壤是假的。 还有,美国宇航员送给荷兰的月球岩石,已经证实造假了,没想到送给法国的也是假的。 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/museum-s-moon-rock-is-mere-wood-1778405.html The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by US astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood. Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity. "It''s a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it." The museum acquired the rock after the death of former prime minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees had received it as a private gift on 9 October 1969 from the then-US ambassador J William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts. Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had received it from the US State Department. He could not be reached for comment yesterday. The US embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.
平行月球
这个逻辑和生物学科造假,推给“生物多样性”, 一毛一样
换成地球呢?你为什么不在撒哈拉里游泳啊,不都是地球吗?
我觉得地球也是他们从未触及过的星球,对地球的了解也才刚刚有一丁丁点。
俺觉着这一点上要相信民主自由的美国。 美国有纠错体制,有学术自由,有新闻自由。 所以美国做出来的月球土壤样品, 更有可信度。不接受反驳。
美国登不登月其实无所谓,已经登火星了,而登火星比登月可难多了。
假设一个月球都登录不了可以登陆火星???
我是说无人的
没懂土壤不一样,美国登月造假的逻辑在哪里?
不过嫦娥竟然找到水这真的很振奋人心啊(如果是真的话)
这楼里原本就没几个正常ID
你在地球上找两个地方挖土,应该怎么样呢?
全世界土壤的成分至少90%以上都一样啊吧?
哑口无言…… 呃,欢迎光临地球,这是一个神奇、混乱、危险而又刺激的地方。注意安全,祝您旅途愉快。
对这些阴谋论简直是够了
有水也不能在月亮上生存,因为人类的生物钟在一天24-25小时左右,月球一天相当于我们1个月。 太阳系只有火星符合要求
还在怀疑?
还装,真是无耻之徒
嫦娥3号和阿波罗15登月地点很近,在一个月海里 倒是阿波罗15和12,16距离遥远,几倍于嫦娥3号距离 让人疑惑是美国几次登月月壤取样成分类似,和中国样本差别巨大
月球没有大气活动,没有洋流移动,没有河流冲刷,通过撞击形成,应该是差不多的,起码微量成分应该类似。 没水就更没道理了。因为月球没有大气层,是真空,经历这么多次撞击,最后应该是洒落在各地
以我有限的知识,推断就是,美国的月球土壤是假的。 还有,美国宇航员送给荷兰的月球岩石,已经证实造假了,没想到送给法国的也是假的。
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/museum-s-moon-rock-is-mere-wood-1778405.html The Dutch national museum said Thursday that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by US astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood. Rijksmuseum spokeswoman Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, said the museum will keep it anyway as a curiosity. "It''s a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," she said. "We can laugh about it."
The museum acquired the rock after the death of former prime minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees had received it as a private gift on 9 October 1969 from the then-US ambassador J William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts. Middendorf, who lives in Rhode Island, told Dutch broadcaster NOS news that he had received it from the US State Department. He could not be reached for comment yesterday. The US embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter.
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这个应该是论文。。。 中国之前有类似论文。 法国做的只是把手里的美国土壤和中国土壤,再对比
我自己根据现有的论文做了一个图,后面的是美国宣称的,阿波罗12,14的制图。 Instrumental Neutron Activation Analysis of Chang’E-5 Lunar Regolith Samples | Journal of the American Chemical Society (acs.org)
这并不一定说明,阿波罗登月没拿到土壤,只能说明,美国给了法国假的月壤,
美国在登月这块,谎言不少,真真假假掺和在一起,原来觉得真假话是五五对半分,现在感觉是四六或者三七开了。世界各个方面不可一方独大的好处就在于撒谎没那么容易,其实这对于智商不太够的人才是最有利的,否则一辈子被蒙在鼓里还替愚弄自己的人叫好,一辈子活了个可悲可笑。
因为地球有大气层,有水圈,地球的地质活动程度作用远远超过太阳系90%的天体
月球表面绝大部分面积,在过去20亿年都没有什么变化。
话说印象中火星上都监测到水了,月球上有水感觉也正常。
时代不同了,检测下限可能降低很多,另外有的土壤过于干燥也是可能的
这明显不是北京小孩, 知道五色土吗?
月球上的土壤化学成分的差异相对较小,因为月球表面的土壤主要是由月岩和月尘组成,这些物质在整个月球表面分布较为均匀。地球上不同地区的土壤化学成分差异比较大的原因是因为受到地质、气候、植被,还有人类活动等等很多因素的影响,导致了不同地区土壤的组成有比较大的差异。
“美国说登录的是另外一个月球” 你有信息来源吗? 白宫发言人的发言记录都可以查到,你找到这句话的出处吗?
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.34RJ67Y
反美可以,不要反智。
这是中国科学家2022年自己发表的paper里的数据 (google, Extraterrestrial photosynthesis by Chang’E-5 lunar soil),和法国航天局没有任何关系。paper里也有说,是因为月壤年龄不一样,嫦娥带回来的月壤比较年轻。
阿波罗月壤里也有撞击玻璃珠,撞击玻璃珠里有水,用nanosims测到的,发在2008 nature. 当年凡是稍微关心下科学信息的人都应该有印象。这个都是十几年前的paper了,居然还有人相信这种老掉牙的“阿波罗月壤没有水”的谣言? 中科院几个国家重点实验室后来也用同样的技术测试了阿波罗月壤,有类似发现,发在2022国内某个岩土学术期刊上。
反美可以,不要反智。
“美国宇航员送给荷兰的月球岩石”这个都被辟谣多少次了,你在发这个post前自己都不google下吗,你真的在华为工作过?
任何从nasa送出去的月壤,nasa都有记录,这块没有。 nasa送给了荷兰两块,每块不到1g,都是封起来的。https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_lunar_sample_displays
nasa送了100多个国家,每个国家都是很小一粒。你看看你发的那块,那么大一块,那个人是美国他爹吗???
还送给法国的月壤是假的?你下这个结论下先不google下主楼给的数据是哪里来的?这些数据是中国科学家自己在2022发的paper,和法国航天局有个屁的关系。paper里也说了,是因为月壤年龄不一样,嫦娥带回来的年龄小。但凡是真心关心中国航天事业的人,都应该看过这个paper,就算自己没看过,也应该看到不少关心中国航天事业的公众号里发布的这个paper的几个关键图。
哦,原来我是被一个前 huaweier 给拉黑的啊?!
她不太像华为的,华为人一般低调理性。
我都没说啥,就是和她正常讨论,然后就被拉黑了。
不感慨你们都太好骗了吗?这华人还是大部分是高学历的网友。 反美都变成反智了啊😄
我就觉得奇怪了,这种帖子在国内网站发发也就算了,毕竟统计说本科率不到4%。 发到这里来是什么意思? 就是没想到真的能钓到鱼,看到某些账号都聚集在这个帖子里,好玩了。
哈哈,你前面几次反美可以不要反智的回复太铿锵有力了。就恨注册时间不够长不能点赞,手工回复点赞一下。 这个美国登月阴谋说真是华人的月经贴,不知道怎么三天两头有人跳出来讲。我当初看不下去注册了跟他们吵,也就几个月功夫以及吵了好几个回合了。我现在已经到了看他们一眼都是多余的地步了。
振奋个屁, 月球根本没生物。。
谢谢妹子支持。我还是第一次在huaren上看到,我就是惊讶居然huaren上有这种帖子,再次惊讶居然这种帖子还能真的钓到鱼。我也不知道这个帖子的lz是不是故意发的钓鱼贴。 真的是我最近看到过最好笑的事情了。
嘴这么臭 月球没生物跟有没有水有什么关系? 水在太空是非常宝贵的资源,人类如果想要走出地球,要能在太空长期可持续发展,能找到水资源是非常重要的。
不会不会。我之前跟他们吵了几次后发现其实还是有很多不反智的人,也是会跟他们较真的。只不过大部分人懒得理他们,而他们阴谋论的没事做天天在回帖,看起来好像他们特别大声一样。其实正常人还是很多的。你看你之前的回帖也有好多点赞的,说明大家还是看着呢,只不过这种帖子太多,好多人就直接ignore了。
北溪是谁炸的?
欧阳志远院士发表过多篇月球土壤的文章, 都是基于美国的样品. 专家都被骗了,却被键盘侠一眼看穿。中国嫦娥二号拍到过阿波罗遗弃的登月舱. 到现在还在质疑别人登月的, 非蠢既坏
看华人还是需要些智商的,无关乎学历,纯粹有些人特别容易被忽悠