娃真优秀，恭喜！commute的问题考虑吗，每天从南湾接送，也是一大活啊。 突然想起我有个老白男同事的女儿（儿子）是carey-》crystal springs, 一条龙毕业的，现在已经本科毕业了，我没问哪个学校，因为他说起女儿决定变儿子我就不敢有任何评论了。他太太说了不少这两个学校的坏话，用词挺狠的，说这些学校的mean girls are like vipers。肯定是个案，听听就是了，白女多的地方这种事也逃不掉。
MegMegMeg 发表于 2024-03-17 14:01 娃真优秀，恭喜！commute的问题考虑吗，每天从南湾接送，也是一大活啊。 突然想起我有个老白男同事的女儿（儿子）是carey-》crystal springs, 一条龙毕业的，现在已经本科毕业了，我没问哪个学校，因为他说起女儿决定变儿子我就不敢有任何评论了。他太太说了不少这两个学校的坏话，用词挺狠的，说这些学校的mean girls are like vipers。肯定是个案，听听就是了，白女多的地方这种事也逃不掉。
MegMegMeg 发表于 2024-03-17 14:01 娃真优秀，恭喜！commute的问题考虑吗，每天从南湾接送，也是一大活啊。 突然想起我有个老白男同事的女儿（儿子）是carey-》crystal springs, 一条龙毕业的，现在已经本科毕业了，我没问哪个学校，因为他说起女儿决定变儿子我就不敢有任何评论了。他太太说了不少这两个学校的坏话，用词挺狠的，说这些学校的mean girls are like vipers。肯定是个案，听听就是了，白女多的地方这种事也逃不掉。
手工点赞一下这个高质量的回复，都是干货，尤其是最后一句，点破了我的担忧，虽然我这心操的早了8万年。 我记得以前有个讨论私校的帖子里说，很多顶私里的娃，去上学是去学习how to live a fulfilling life without needing to work。咱们这种哼哧哼哧挣工资的中产，再怎么也得让娃学习各种求生找工作的本领吧？我很好奇这会在校园氛围里或者同学之间体现吗？
https://www.crystal.org/resources/academic-support/college-counseling# Crystal students from the classes of 2020-2023 have been accepted to the following institutions (matriculation in bold): American UniversityAmherst CollegeArizona State UniversityBabson CollegeBarnard CollegeBates College Baylor University Beloit College Bentley University Berklee College of Music Boise State UniversityBoston CollegeBoston University Bowdoin College Brandeis University Brigham Young University - Hawaii Brown UniversityBryn Mawr College Bucknell University California Lutheran University California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University-Pomona California State University Maritime Academy California State University-Bakersfield California State University-Channel Islands California State University-Chico California State University-East Bay California State University-Fresno California State University-Fullerton California State University-Humboldt California State University-Long Beach California State University-Los Angeles California State University-Monterey Bay California State University-Northridge California State University-Sacramento California State University-San Marcos Carleton CollegeCarnegie Mellon UniversityCase Western Reserve UniversityChapman University Clark University Clemson University Colby College Colgate University College of San Mateo College of William and Mary Colorado College Colorado School of Mines Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University Connecticut College Cornell University Cornish College of the Arts Dartmouth College Davidson College DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke Kunshan University Duke University Eastman College of Music Elon University Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University-Daytona Beach Emerson College Emory UniversityEmory University-Oxford College Eugene Lang College of Liberal Arts Florida International University Fordham University Franklin and Marshall College George Washington University Georgetown UniversityGeorgia Institute of Technology Gettysburg College Goldsmiths, University of London Gonzaga University Graceland University-Lamoni Grinnell College Hamilton College Hampton University Harvard UniversityHaverford College Hawaii Pacific University High Point University Howard University Hult International Business School Indiana University-Bloomington Jackson State University John Cabot University Kentucky State University Kenyon College Lafayette College Laguna College of Art and Design Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Louisana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University Chicago Macalester College Marist College Maryland Institute College of Art Massachusetts College of Art and Design Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyMcGill University Menlo College Michigan State University Middlebury College Mills College Morehouse College Mount Holyoke CollegeNew York University Norfolk State University Northeastern UniversityNorthwestern University Oberlin College Conservatory of Music Oberlin CollegeOccidental CollegeOhio State University-Main Campus Old Dominion University Oregon State University Otterbein University Pace University
Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University Pennsylvania State University Pepperdine University Pitzer College Point Park University Pomona College Portland State University Pratt Institute-MainPrinceton UniversityPurdue UniversityReed CollegeRensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhode Island School of Design Rice University Ringling College of Art and Design Rochester Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry SUNY Polytechnic Institute SUNY at Purchase College Saint Mary's College of California Salve Regina University San Diego State University San Francisco State UniversitySan Jose State UniversitySanta Clara University Sarah Lawrence College School of Visual Arts School of the Art Institute of Chicago Scripps College Seattle University Seton Hall University Skidmore College Smith CollegeSonoma State UniversitySouthern Methodist University Southern Oregon University St. John's CollegeStanford UniversitySwarthmore College Syracuse University Temple University Texas A & M University Texas Christian University Texas Southern University The American University of Paris The Evergreen State College The New England Conservatory of Music The New School The University of Alabama The University of British Columbia The University of Edinburgh Tufts UniversityTulane University Union College University of Arizona University of Birmingham University of BristolUniversity of California-BerkeleyUniversity of California-DavisUniversity of California-IrvineUniversity of California-Los AngelesUniversity of California-MercedUniversity of California-RiversideUniversity of California-San DiegoUniversity of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of Chicago University of Colorado-Boulder University of Colorado-Denver University of Connecticut University of Denver University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Greenwich University of Hawaii At Manoa University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign University of La Verne University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Boston University of Miami University of Michigan University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Nevada-Las Vegas University of North Carolina at Chapel HillUniversity of Notre Dame University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Portland University of Puget Sound University of Redlands University of RichmondUniversity of Rochester University of San Diego University of San FranciscoUniversity of Southern CaliforniaUniversity of St Andrews University of Toronto University of Vermont University of VirginiaUniversity of Washington University of Wisconsin-Madison University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee University of Wyoming University of the Pacific Vanderbilt University Villanova University Virginia Military InstituteWake Forest University Washington State University Washington University In St LouisWashington and Lee UniversityWellesley CollegeWesleyan University Western Washington University Wheaton College Whitman College Whittier College Willamette University Williams College Worcester Polytechnic InstituteYale University
dpdpdp 发表于 2024-03-18 13:14 https://www.crystal.org/resources/academic-support/college-counseling# Crystal students from the classes of 2020-2023 have been accepted to the following institutions (matriculation in bold): American UniversityAmherst CollegeArizona State UniversityBabson CollegeBarnard CollegeBates College Baylor University Beloit College Bentley University Berklee College of Music Boise State UniversityBoston CollegeBoston University Bowdoin College Brandeis University Brigham Young University - Hawaii Brown UniversityBryn Mawr College Bucknell University California Lutheran University California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University-Pomona California State University Maritime Academy California State University-Bakersfield California State University-Channel Islands California State University-Chico California State University-East Bay California State University-Fresno California State University-Fullerton California State University-Humboldt California State University-Long Beach California State University-Los Angeles California State University-Monterey Bay California State University-Northridge California State University-Sacramento California State University-San Marcos Carleton CollegeCarnegie Mellon UniversityCase Western Reserve UniversityChapman University Clark University Clemson University Colby College Colgate University College of San Mateo College of William and Mary Colorado College Colorado School of Mines Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University Connecticut College Cornell University Cornish College of the Arts Dartmouth College Davidson College DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke Kunshan University Duke University Eastman College of Music Elon University Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University-Daytona Beach Emerson College Emory UniversityEmory University-Oxford College Eugene Lang College of Liberal Arts Florida International University Fordham University Franklin and Marshall College George Washington University Georgetown UniversityGeorgia Institute of Technology Gettysburg College Goldsmiths, University of London Gonzaga University Graceland University-Lamoni Grinnell College Hamilton College Hampton University Harvard UniversityHaverford College Hawaii Pacific University High Point University Howard University Hult International Business School Indiana University-Bloomington Jackson State University John Cabot University Kentucky State University Kenyon College Lafayette College Laguna College of Art and Design Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Louisana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University Chicago Macalester College Marist College Maryland Institute College of Art Massachusetts College of Art and Design Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyMcGill University Menlo College Michigan State University Middlebury College Mills College Morehouse College Mount Holyoke CollegeNew York University Norfolk State University Northeastern UniversityNorthwestern University Oberlin College Conservatory of Music Oberlin CollegeOccidental CollegeOhio State University-Main Campus Old Dominion University Oregon State University Otterbein University Pace University
Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University Pennsylvania State University Pepperdine University Pitzer College Point Park University Pomona College Portland State University Pratt Institute-MainPrinceton UniversityPurdue UniversityReed CollegeRensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhode Island School of Design Rice University Ringling College of Art and Design Rochester Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry SUNY Polytechnic Institute SUNY at Purchase College Saint Mary's College of California Salve Regina University San Diego State University San Francisco State UniversitySan Jose State UniversitySanta Clara University Sarah Lawrence College School of Visual Arts School of the Art Institute of Chicago Scripps College Seattle University Seton Hall University Skidmore College Smith CollegeSonoma State UniversitySouthern Methodist University Southern Oregon University St. John's CollegeStanford UniversitySwarthmore College Syracuse University Temple University Texas A & M University Texas Christian University Texas Southern University The American University of Paris The Evergreen State College The New England Conservatory of Music The New School The University of Alabama The University of British Columbia The University of Edinburgh Tufts UniversityTulane University Union College University of Arizona University of Birmingham University of BristolUniversity of California-BerkeleyUniversity of California-DavisUniversity of California-IrvineUniversity of California-Los AngelesUniversity of California-MercedUniversity of California-RiversideUniversity of California-San DiegoUniversity of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of Chicago University of Colorado-Boulder University of Colorado-Denver University of Connecticut University of Denver University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Greenwich University of Hawaii At Manoa University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign University of La Verne University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Boston University of Miami University of Michigan University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Nevada-Las Vegas University of North Carolina at Chapel HillUniversity of Notre Dame University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Portland University of Puget Sound University of Redlands University of RichmondUniversity of Rochester University of San Diego University of San FranciscoUniversity of Southern CaliforniaUniversity of St Andrews University of Toronto University of Vermont University of VirginiaUniversity of Washington University of Wisconsin-Madison University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee University of Wyoming University of the Pacific Vanderbilt University Villanova University Virginia Military InstituteWake Forest University Washington State University Washington University In St LouisWashington and Lee UniversityWellesley CollegeWesleyan University Western Washington University Wheaton College Whitman College Whittier College Willamette University Williams College Worcester Polytechnic InstituteYale University
这种就是一个学生的数据点可以用四年。 而且作为家长有几个能接受最后孩子去了cc的，比如那个college of san mateo。
我见过去community college 的很多是对申请大学不满意，第二年再申请的，或者孩子一时身体不适，念一年半载就转学的。真的念个社区学院毕业的少之又少。 还有这种顶私的学生申大学不理想的话，很多gap 一年，然后再转学进藤或top 20， 实际上毕业的学校比现在高中网站上的统计要好。白人有钱家长对孩子的期待值比华人家庭有过之无不及，他们就是connection 更多，知道更多的后门（包括侧门，前两年因为大学贿赂案被起诉的家长就有Crystal Spring 的）， 不像第一代华人家长推孩子只有硬磕学术。 回到楼主的问题上，Crystal or Harker, 都是差不多的好学校，无论去哪里，就是要家长调整期待值，知己知彼。相信楼主家的孩子能被录取，肯定在哪里都会很出色的。
dpdpdp 发表于 2024-03-18 13:14 https://www.crystal.org/resources/academic-support/college-counseling# Crystal students from the classes of 2020-2023 have been accepted to the following institutions (matriculation in bold): American UniversityAmherst CollegeArizona State UniversityBabson CollegeBarnard CollegeBates College Baylor University Beloit College Bentley University Berklee College of Music Boise State UniversityBoston CollegeBoston University Bowdoin College Brandeis University Brigham Young University - Hawaii Brown UniversityBryn Mawr College Bucknell University California Lutheran University California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University-Pomona California State University Maritime Academy California State University-Bakersfield California State University-Channel Islands California State University-Chico California State University-East Bay California State University-Fresno California State University-Fullerton California State University-Humboldt California State University-Long Beach California State University-Los Angeles California State University-Monterey Bay California State University-Northridge California State University-Sacramento California State University-San Marcos Carleton CollegeCarnegie Mellon UniversityCase Western Reserve UniversityChapman University Clark University Clemson University Colby College Colgate University College of San Mateo College of William and Mary Colorado College Colorado School of Mines Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University Connecticut College Cornell University Cornish College of the Arts Dartmouth College Davidson College DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke Kunshan University Duke University Eastman College of Music Elon University Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University-Daytona Beach Emerson College Emory UniversityEmory University-Oxford College Eugene Lang College of Liberal Arts Florida International University Fordham University Franklin and Marshall College George Washington University Georgetown UniversityGeorgia Institute of Technology Gettysburg College Goldsmiths, University of London Gonzaga University Graceland University-Lamoni Grinnell College Hamilton College Hampton University Harvard UniversityHaverford College Hawaii Pacific University High Point University Howard University Hult International Business School Indiana University-Bloomington Jackson State University John Cabot University Kentucky State University Kenyon College Lafayette College Laguna College of Art and Design Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Louisana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University Chicago Macalester College Marist College Maryland Institute College of Art Massachusetts College of Art and Design Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyMcGill University Menlo College Michigan State University Middlebury College Mills College Morehouse College Mount Holyoke CollegeNew York University Norfolk State University Northeastern UniversityNorthwestern University Oberlin College Conservatory of Music Oberlin CollegeOccidental CollegeOhio State University-Main Campus Old Dominion University Oregon State University Otterbein University Pace University
Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University Pennsylvania State University Pepperdine University Pitzer College Point Park University Pomona College Portland State University Pratt Institute-MainPrinceton UniversityPurdue UniversityReed CollegeRensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhode Island School of Design Rice University Ringling College of Art and Design Rochester Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry SUNY Polytechnic Institute SUNY at Purchase College Saint Mary's College of California Salve Regina University San Diego State University San Francisco State UniversitySan Jose State UniversitySanta Clara University Sarah Lawrence College School of Visual Arts School of the Art Institute of Chicago Scripps College Seattle University Seton Hall University Skidmore College Smith CollegeSonoma State UniversitySouthern Methodist University Southern Oregon University St. John's CollegeStanford UniversitySwarthmore College Syracuse University Temple University Texas A & M University Texas Christian University Texas Southern University The American University of Paris The Evergreen State College The New England Conservatory of Music The New School The University of Alabama The University of British Columbia The University of Edinburgh Tufts UniversityTulane University Union College University of Arizona University of Birmingham University of BristolUniversity of California-BerkeleyUniversity of California-DavisUniversity of California-IrvineUniversity of California-Los AngelesUniversity of California-MercedUniversity of California-RiversideUniversity of California-San DiegoUniversity of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of Chicago University of Colorado-Boulder University of Colorado-Denver University of Connecticut University of Denver University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Greenwich University of Hawaii At Manoa University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign University of La Verne University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Boston University of Miami University of Michigan University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Nevada-Las Vegas University of North Carolina at Chapel HillUniversity of Notre Dame University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Portland University of Puget Sound University of Redlands University of RichmondUniversity of Rochester University of San Diego University of San FranciscoUniversity of Southern CaliforniaUniversity of St Andrews University of Toronto University of Vermont University of VirginiaUniversity of Washington University of Wisconsin-Madison University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee University of Wyoming University of the Pacific Vanderbilt University Villanova University Virginia Military InstituteWake Forest University Washington State University Washington University In St LouisWashington and Lee UniversityWellesley CollegeWesleyan University Western Washington University Wheaton College Whitman College Whittier College Willamette University Williams College Worcester Polytechnic InstituteYale University
littlefish99 发表于 2024-03-18 01:38 手工点赞一下这个高质量的回复，都是干货，尤其是最后一句，点破了我的担忧，虽然我这心操的早了8万年。 我记得以前有个讨论私校的帖子里说，很多顶私里的娃，去上学是去学习how to live a fulfilling life without needing to work。咱们这种哼哧哼哧挣工资的中产，再怎么也得让娃学习各种求生找工作的本领吧？我很好奇这会在校园氛围里或者同学之间体现吗？
03/22 就得做决定。非常发愁啊。
谢谢了.
很好的学校，但是legacy 特别多。录名校的人数虽多，和中产关系不大。
谢谢。刚刚收到一个前同事的回复。他在Google 以L8身份退休。大儿子读的Crystal。应该算是上中产吧。
“My only real concern is that it was an academic pressure cooker. 。。。。。”
这就是我们担心的，我们不是legacy啊，一般中产。
看stem竞赛结果也看得出来，以上三大卷校是大赢家，crystal springs很不行，偶有进AIME的也是华裔娃名字还是大陆姓，of course.
SBF 是？恕我孤陋寡闻。
College confidential 上没有吗？
那个网站主要针对从高中考大学的吧。翻了一下。
您是指学校的Board?
是的。至少我上次看是有的。
能具体说说是哪几所大学的legacy 不？ 我猜Stanford 和 Princeton 会在里面。
有个专门 prep school 的版 也很多信息
突然想起我有个老白男同事的女儿（儿子）是carey-》crystal springs, 一条龙毕业的，现在已经本科毕业了，我没问哪个学校，因为他说起女儿决定变儿子我就不敢有任何评论了。他太太说了不少这两个学校的坏话，用词挺狠的，说这些学校的mean girls are like vipers。肯定是个案，听听就是了，白女多的地方这种事也逃不掉。
谢谢。把南湾房子卖了在Belmont 买房也在考虑中。 娃心眼很大。如果您说的是真的话，不知能survive 不？
或者眼睛一闭跳Harker 算了。
这个主意不错。我去试试。
建议问问两个学校的家长结合孩子优势再作决定。
谢谢你。您的用户名有Crystal. 巧合？
从 Palo Alto 坐车还是挺远的。 大概我这是操心皇上昨天用哪把金锄头干活了。
除非是他的大女儿Lisa.
不想用区区房子束缚娃的选择。搬家的痛苦也就一星期。
我是这样子想的：不管是Harker 还是Crystal, 单靠工资肯定都不可能。Harker 和crystal 的学费只差7、8千一年。donation 吧，反正我们也donate 不出一个体育场。所以差别也不会太大。
那个楼主的意思应该不是指学费，而是指家长的圈子。
这个信息也很重要，谢谢啊！我们去tour的时候感觉挺好，staff都很nice，孩子面试的时候也挺喜欢老师们的。所以我们才这么难抉择。ps,Crystal寄到家的录取包裹，很有心，除了录取信，资料等，竟有一封制作精美的单独的信，内容是根据孩子申请资料上面的信息和兴趣等，单独写的。让我们挺感动的。还有贴贴纸，娃最喜欢这个😓 相比较，Harker的录取包裹中规中矩。不过两个我们都感恩。
对，对，估计是家长圈子不同。
搬家一个星期？不说看房，买房过户手续也得几个星期吧。 如果您家租房送孩子上私校，就当我没说吧。
比喻一下，搬家后收拾怎么也需要几个星期。要是搬家，再换房，买房，肯定要折腾至少几个月的。
两个学校都不错，原则就是选离家近的学校，不要为孩子上学做太多的改变，这样家长期待值比较正常。
这...我哪是在说学费。我是说背景。普通中产在Harker更有归属感。上班打工族跟大部分Crystal家长谈不到一起。小孩也一样。
有一定道理。家长圈其实我们出生那天就决定啦。唯一的 outlier: 我的前同事是我唯一的认识的Crystal的熟人。他在我的公司就很会来事。技术又好。所以一路升到principal Engineer. 然后又无缝华丽地转到G家L8.
是挺有挑战性的。一个南湾的娃加入半岛。。。。。一个人都不认识。这家倒是没有小学，是grade 6-12。
是的 ，Niche上面也看到了。中半岛的好私立多，选择多。娃最想进的是Nueva, 她很喜欢校园，但是被拒了。
我们可以有好几种方式： 卖掉南湾的房子去买中半岛的。或者把现在的房子租出去再租中半岛的房了。
我觉得没有必要对租房送私立这么condescending. 都是为了孩子。
Feeder school就是前面说的Carey。但这种私校feeder school都不是大比例的，只是相对别的学校多一点
南湾过去不会融不进圈子，特别是从初中开始。高中进就很难了。不过相对来说，女生的社交圈子比较难搞，因为总人数少，女生又小心思比较多。来自家庭差距造成的社交障碍还是存在的。不是赤裸裸歧视那种，毕竟40%左右学生其实是有补助的。
我们属于中间一档没指望也没打算financial aid. 也不是老钱。估计人数不多。
非常感谢你的informative 的答复。
我们也属于这中间一档，家长们聊起来其实在升学时最吃亏的。老钱/legacy 就不用说了，拿financial aid (基本都是有色人种，这里完全没有歧视的意思哈）升学时很受照顾。中规中矩的孩子很难出彩。而且Crystal 这几年非常强调DEI,新来的校长以前就是专门负责DEI的，花了很多时间精力在这上面，很多家长在填调查表都有提意见。
优点是学校比较小，大部分家庭背景不错，没有“烂苹果”，不容易被带偏学坏。而且氛围比较友善，没有Harker 那么卷。
我就是觉得这样下重注，赌的有点大。 上个私校，哪怕顶私，对孩子发展也没那么大的决定性作用。 我孩子的同学上了顶私结果出来，现在在公校，排名也就中间。我们还认识从顶私一路上下来的孩子，除了染上一身纨绔子弟气质，啥也没得到。
对，我们当初也非常羡慕顶私。多少top5，ivy。后来研究了一下根本就是跟我们中产娃无关。有的senior就在孩子的club里打球，靠体育上的藤。
属实。好像是前年吧，一共大概20个早申上藤或Top学校的···家长群里讨论了一下，19个legacy, 1个体育娃😅。之后就不太关注了…今年听了一耳朵，认识的孩子中进Stanford的都是legacy +捐款（其中一家捐了栋楼）。倒是有一家中产背景早申进藤，确实学业出色，有大奖，感觉在公校一样能进。
谢谢你。刚才的回答有点冲。望包涵。
这个信息真的太有用了！谢谢！
多问一句，Crystal 一届也就90 到 100人。除了这二十个legacy + 老钱，咱普通娃有没有进ivy + T5 的？ 谢谢！
没事没事。其实我觉得你们还是上harker的好。niche上的排名不那么可信。 我是这么看私立学校的，真正的厉害的学校是敢公布college matriculation数据的。包括去那个学校，去了几个。南加的hw，连当年去了哪些学校，最近几年去了哪些学校，数字都详细的列出来。看北加的也就harker就敢报这个数字。而很多其他的顶私不敢都是最近几年去过哪些学校，多少个多大比例，不敢写就知道心虚。
有的。我知道都是体育大奖，或某项专业大奖的。不知道在公校同样的情况是否也能进。有练体育的妈妈和我讲她家孩子放在公校可以进更好的学校，因为Crystal 压低GPA. 这个我不是100%了解和确认，就是转述一下。
我个人感觉Crystal 本身的教学，课外活动没有什么特殊出色的，但的确很多家庭背景好的孩子聚在一起，不会太拉垮。另外孩子普遍单纯守规矩，象牙塔中保护很好的样子。这个我一直在反思是否是件好事情😅
谢谢你。娃也申请了Nueva。这家有数据：https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1633642487/nuevaschoolorg/jza66iwuaqzm2m10z3mo/2017-2021Matriculations.pdf
谢谢您知无不言，言无不尽。从上周五收到消息后我们挺发愁（当然也非常开心，毕竟是好事). 有三所学校发了offers。感觉要做很多research。读了无数个论坛。做了详尽的sheet，但是总觉得不带要点。
事实证明，华人还是对华人好。
你的观点和我一个同事挺像。他想把娃从私立转出来，因为私立太像一个bubble了。
谢谢你。看来我错了。原来我对我的帖子还不抱太大希望。我媳妇上华人比我早得多，她觉得会有信息。
能被几家同时录取，说明是个很棒的娃，妈妈不用太焦虑啦，虽然是甜蜜的烦恼。😀总之适合自己的就是最好的。我家当时也是H和C同时录取，去了下Re Shadow, 孩子最终自己决定的。小孩子很聪明的，这个事让她自己定就好了。怎么选都不会100%完美，但都会是美好的人生体验。Good luck 🌹🌹
谢谢。我是爸爸。我们也想让孩子自己决定了，毕竟是她上学。两家她都再去revisit一次，就做决定了。非常感谢您分享的信息，对我们太有帮助了！
手工点赞一下这个高质量的回复，都是干货，尤其是最后一句，点破了我的担忧，虽然我这心操的早了8万年。
我记得以前有个讨论私校的帖子里说，很多顶私里的娃，去上学是去学习how to live a fulfilling life without needing to work。咱们这种哼哧哼哧挣工资的中产，再怎么也得让娃学习各种求生找工作的本领吧？我很好奇这会在校园氛围里或者同学之间体现吗？
讲了半天才发现你是个男的，哦，no，我居然也产生了性别profiling!
本来一直用媳妇儿的ID. 打2020年她不再让用了。但是我不觉得我的用辞有太多feminine.
很多私立都报的啊，你没找对地方吧
请问你的朋友有说为什么crystal springs不好吗？
这是 小别离 里那个土豪家被骗 去捐图书馆那个学校？
很多私立报的是录取不是入学人数。
https://www.crystal.org/resources/academic-support/college-counseling#
Crystal students from the classes of 2020-2023 have been accepted to the following institutions (matriculation in bold):
American University Amherst College Arizona State University Babson College Barnard College Bates College Baylor University Beloit College Bentley University Berklee College of Music Boise State University Boston College Boston University Bowdoin College Brandeis University Brigham Young University - Hawaii Brown University Bryn Mawr College Bucknell University California Lutheran University California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University-Pomona California State University Maritime Academy California State University-Bakersfield California State University-Channel Islands California State University-Chico California State University-East Bay California State University-Fresno California State University-Fullerton California State University-Humboldt California State University-Long Beach California State University-Los Angeles California State University-Monterey Bay California State University-Northridge California State University-Sacramento California State University-San Marcos Carleton College Carnegie Mellon University Case Western Reserve University Chapman University Clark University Clemson University Colby College Colgate University College of San Mateo College of William and Mary Colorado College Colorado School of Mines Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University Connecticut College Cornell University Cornish College of the Arts Dartmouth College Davidson College DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke Kunshan University Duke University Eastman College of Music Elon University Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University-Daytona Beach Emerson College Emory University Emory University-Oxford College Eugene Lang College of Liberal Arts Florida International University Fordham University Franklin and Marshall College George Washington University Georgetown University Georgia Institute of Technology Gettysburg College Goldsmiths, University of London Gonzaga University Graceland University-Lamoni Grinnell College Hamilton College Hampton University Harvard University Haverford College Hawaii Pacific University High Point University Howard University Hult International Business School Indiana University-Bloomington Jackson State University John Cabot University Kentucky State University Kenyon College Lafayette College Laguna College of Art and Design Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Louisana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University Chicago Macalester College Marist College Maryland Institute College of Art Massachusetts College of Art and Design Massachusetts Institute of Technology McGill University Menlo College Michigan State University Middlebury College Mills College Morehouse College Mount Holyoke College New York University Norfolk State University Northeastern University Northwestern University Oberlin College Conservatory of Music Oberlin College Occidental College Ohio State University-Main Campus Old Dominion University Oregon State University Otterbein University Pace University
Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University Pennsylvania State University Pepperdine University Pitzer College Point Park University Pomona College Portland State University Pratt Institute-Main Princeton University Purdue University Reed College Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhode Island School of Design Rice University Ringling College of Art and Design Rochester Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick SUNY College of Environmental Science & Forestry SUNY Polytechnic Institute SUNY at Purchase College Saint Mary's College of California Salve Regina University San Diego State University San Francisco State University San Jose State University Santa Clara University Sarah Lawrence College School of Visual Arts School of the Art Institute of Chicago Scripps College Seattle University Seton Hall University Skidmore College Smith College Sonoma State University Southern Methodist University Southern Oregon University St. John's College Stanford University Swarthmore College Syracuse University Temple University Texas A & M University Texas Christian University Texas Southern University The American University of Paris The Evergreen State College The New England Conservatory of Music The New School The University of Alabama The University of British Columbia The University of Edinburgh Tufts University Tulane University Union College University of Arizona University of Birmingham University of Bristol University of California-Berkeley University of California-Davis University of California-Irvine University of California-Los Angeles University of California-Merced University of California-Riverside University of California-San Diego University of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of Chicago University of Colorado-Boulder University of Colorado-Denver University of Connecticut University of Denver University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Greenwich University of Hawaii At Manoa University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign University of La Verne University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Boston University of Miami University of Michigan University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Nevada-Las Vegas University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill University of Notre Dame University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Portland University of Puget Sound University of Redlands University of Richmond University of Rochester University of San Diego University of San Francisco University of Southern California University of St Andrews University of Toronto University of Vermont University of Virginia University of Washington University of Wisconsin-Madison University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee University of Wyoming University of the Pacific Vanderbilt University Villanova University Virginia Military Institute Wake Forest University Washington State University Washington University In St Louis Washington and Lee University Wellesley College Wesleyan University Western Washington University Wheaton College Whitman College Whittier College Willamette University Williams College Worcester Polytechnic Institute Yale University
这种就是一个学生的数据点可以用四年。 而且作为家长有几个能接受最后孩子去了cc的，比如那个college of san mateo。
还有这种顶私的学生申大学不理想的话，很多gap 一年，然后再转学进藤或top 20， 实际上毕业的学校比现在高中网站上的统计要好。白人有钱家长对孩子的期待值比华人家庭有过之无不及，他们就是connection 更多，知道更多的后门（包括侧门，前两年因为大学贿赂案被起诉的家长就有Crystal Spring 的）， 不像第一代华人家长推孩子只有硬磕学术。
回到楼主的问题上，Crystal or Harker, 都是差不多的好学校，无论去哪里，就是要家长调整期待值，知己知彼。相信楼主家的孩子能被录取，肯定在哪里都会很出色的。
我天，看了这个list对靠好的私立高中上好大学是一点幻想都没有了
公平讲，Crystal 的学生大部分还是很努力的。特别是从高中开始作业特别多。我知道有从别的私校初中过来适应不了又转走的。说象牙塔主要是指人数太少，社交方面太单纯，各方面安排的很妥当，家庭条件好的孩子又多，很容易失去对真实社会的感知理解。当然到底什么是“真实社会”，是另一个见仁见智的话题了。
还在讨论啊。我不是说alumni group，是这个群就叫Bay area private school discussion, 你搜搜看，然后申请加入，会很快批准，没啥门槛。这两天私校放榜了，很多人发帖问，很多家长都挺积极回复提供建议，愿意私聊分享自己娃的经历。
文科强的娃，Crystal更适合。你可以让娃翻翻学校网站高中的课程，特别是选修课，看看哪个更对她的胃口。虽然harker声名在外是stem, 但估计因为人多开出来的课可能还更丰富一点。不必可惜没录取n, 因为n 的开课也是明显偏重理工的。文科相对弱一点。学校都很好，最重要的还是找到最适合自己娃的，不需要是排名更高的
为什么？
这么多没听过的学校。。
比你小孩现在学校 差？
谢谢你详尽的Guide. 我再试一下。
不是说我看不上，我意思是，华人子女一般想上好一点，能听过名字的学校吧。尤其crystal spring这种湾区有名的私立，大家期待肯定比这个高