hellohey 发表于 2024-03-13 16:23 这个和你医生选用镜片材料有关，不同公司做出来不一样效果。不同制造商用的材料工艺不同没法比较，除非一个厂家, 白天的和其他白天用的需要差不多吧。 OK镜属于Gas Permeable Lenses Misight 属于silicone hydrogel 晚上戴的需要高透氧 Oxygen transmissibility (DK/t) is an important parameter when prescribing a contact lens. Since orthokeratology lenses are worn overnight, higher oxygen permeability rates are needed to avoid ocular hypoxia. Effectiveness and Safety of Overnight Orthokeratology with Roflufocon E High-Permeability Lens Material: A 36 Weeks Follow-Up Study (biomedres.us) Is silicone hydrogel better than gas permeable lenses? Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission).GP lenses allow your eyes to "breathe" better. GP lenses allow more oxygen to reach the front surface of the eye. This reduces the risk of eye problems caused by hypoxia (reduced oxygen supply). Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission). GP lenses are smaller in diameter than soft lenses, so they cover up less of the front surface of the eye (the cornea). Gas permeable lenses hold their shape and move on the eye with each blink. This movement pumps oxygen-containing tears under the lens. Soft lenses conform to the shape of the cornea and have only minimal movement with blinks, so little or no tears circulate under soft lenses. www.hopkinseyecenter.com/eyeglasses-contacts/contact-lenses/gas-permeable-gp-contact-lenses/#:~:text=Gas%20permeable%20lenses%20provide%20a,to%20GPs%20in%20oxygen%20transmission). 看上边这篇介绍，感觉谁白天戴软性的不舒服干眼的可以考虑换硬的眼镜。 难道说戴过硬的换成软的会不舒服吗？我还准备孩子大了换成软的，因为听说很多上大学的晚上睡不到8小时，戴OK镜需要晚上睡够8小时。
这个和你医生选用镜片材料有关，不同公司做出来不一样效果。不同制造商用的材料工艺不同没法比较，除非一个厂家, 白天的和其他白天用的需要差不多吧。 OK镜属于Gas Permeable Lenses Misight 属于silicone hydrogel 晚上戴的需要高透氧 Oxygen transmissibility (DK/t) is an important parameter when prescribing a contact lens. Since orthokeratology lenses are worn overnight, higher oxygen permeability rates are needed to avoid ocular hypoxia. Effectiveness and Safety of Overnight Orthokeratology with Roflufocon E High-Permeability Lens Material: A 36 Weeks Follow-Up Study (biomedres.us) Is silicone hydrogel better than gas permeable lenses? Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission).GP lenses allow your eyes to "breathe" better. GP lenses allow more oxygen to reach the front surface of the eye. This reduces the risk of eye problems caused by hypoxia (reduced oxygen supply). Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission). GP lenses are smaller in diameter than soft lenses, so they cover up less of the front surface of the eye (the cornea). Gas permeable lenses hold their shape and move on the eye with each blink. This movement pumps oxygen-containing tears under the lens. Soft lenses conform to the shape of the cornea and have only minimal movement with blinks, so little or no tears circulate under soft lenses. www.hopkinseyecenter.com/eyeglasses-contacts/contact-lenses/gas-permeable-gp-contact-lenses/#:~:text=Gas%20permeable%20lenses%20provide%20a,to%20GPs%20in%20oxygen%20transmission). 看上边这篇介绍，感觉谁白天戴软性的不舒服干眼的可以考虑换硬的眼镜。 难道说戴过硬的换成软的会不舒服吗？我还准备孩子大了换成软的，因为听说很多上大学的晚上睡不到8小时，戴OK镜需要晚上睡够8小时。
有医生写过的。Ortho-k lenses are worn nightly, and children with myopia can see the next day without using corrective lenses or eyeglasses. Because they are custom-fitted to each eye and have a large range of parameters, the level of attainable vision correction is far greater than MiSight lenses. Ortho-k lenses can treat moderate to high levels of myopia and astigmatism. MiSight lenses are the first FDA-approved lenses for controlling myopia progression in children. Three, five, and seven-year studies have clinically shown that MiSight lenses effectively slow axial elongation by an average of 59%. https://www.miamicontactlens.com/misight-vs-orthokeratology-which-option-is-better-for-your-child/
hellohey 发表于 2024-03-13 01:39 有医生写过的。Ortho-k lenses are worn nightly, and children with myopia can see the next day without using corrective lenses or eyeglasses. Because they are custom-fitted to each eye and have a large range of parameters, the level of attainable vision correction is far greater than MiSight lenses. Ortho-k lenses can treat moderate to high levels of myopia and astigmatism. MiSight lenses are the first FDA-approved lenses for controlling myopia progression in children. Three, five, and seven-year studies have clinically shown that MiSight lenses effectively slow axial elongation by an average of 59%. https://www.miamicontactlens.com/misight-vs-orthokeratology-which-option-is-better-for-your-child/
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眼轴长度是度数增长的本质。眼轴每年在0.2 毫米的增幅是正常生理增涨（控制在这个速度可能不会度数增长，低于这个速度可能度数会回退）
近视控制的本质是控制这个眼轴增长。很多认真防控的家长都是每个月监测一次。 机器也非常重要，最好的机器是蔡司iol master 700。
增加户外，望远，将ipad 转为6米以外投影，写作业用拉远镜都是有效的控制手段。
3天不带都清楚很可能是因为过矫了。实际度数眼轴早就涨很多了。
misight的好处是因为软的比硬的OK镜最开始好佩戴这点是肯定的，但是一旦熟练一秒就可以戴上，我家孩子就属于这样，一开始也花了一两小时，一周后好转，关键是她自己戴的，我在配之前让她看了佩戴录像，外加教会她看镜子里自己的黑瞳往里戴。
谢谢提供文献！我自己有干眼的问题，不能带隐形，所以很在意给娃带ok或misight的透氧性，这个文章里提到了镜片大小和贴合度导致的透氧性差别倒是之前没想到的。因为娃小，医生推荐misight，但很怕透氧性不好导致干眼
这个和你医生选用镜片材料有关，不同公司做出来不一样效果。不同制造商用的材料工艺不同没法比较，除非一个厂家, 白天的和其他白天用的需要差不多吧。 OK镜属于Gas Permeable Lenses Misight 属于silicone hydrogel 晚上戴的需要高透氧 Oxygen transmissibility (DK/t) is an important parameter when prescribing a contact lens. Since orthokeratology lenses are worn overnight, higher oxygen permeability rates are needed to avoid ocular hypoxia. Effectiveness and Safety of Overnight Orthokeratology with Roflufocon E High-Permeability Lens Material: A 36 Weeks Follow-Up Study (biomedres.us)
Is silicone hydrogel better than gas permeable lenses? Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission). GP lenses allow your eyes to "breathe" better. GP lenses allow more oxygen to reach the front surface of the eye. This reduces the risk of eye problems caused by hypoxia (reduced oxygen supply). Gas permeable lenses provide a better oxygen supply than most soft lenses because: The silicone-containing lens materials of GP lenses are more permeable to oxygen than many soft lens materials (though new "silicone hydrogel" soft lenses are comparable to GPs in oxygen transmission). GP lenses are smaller in diameter than soft lenses, so they cover up less of the front surface of the eye (the cornea). Gas permeable lenses hold their shape and move on the eye with each blink. This movement pumps oxygen-containing tears under the lens. Soft lenses conform to the shape of the cornea and have only minimal movement with blinks, so little or no tears circulate under soft lenses.
www.hopkinseyecenter.com/eyeglasses-contacts/contact-lenses/gas-permeable-gp-contact-lenses/#:~:text=Gas%20permeable%20lenses%20provide%20a,to%20GPs%20in%20oxygen%20transmission). 看上边这篇介绍，感觉谁白天戴软性的不舒服干眼的可以考虑换硬的眼镜。 难道说戴过硬的换成软的会不舒服吗？我还准备孩子大了换成软的，因为听说很多上大学的晚上睡不到8小时，戴OK镜需要晚上睡够8小时。
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非常好，我家11-14岁戴的，度数一点都没涨，后悔没有早点知道有这个东西。
我家戴着游泳，没关系啊，反正还要戴游泳眼镜
我家老大现在是戴的第三年，so far so good. 过去两年里，一只眼度数涨了25， 另一只没变。 我们第一次fitting 也是200多，之后每年镜片1500左右，是挺贵的，但觉得还能接受
广而告之～～～ Costco 有Misight, 价格美丽！
哇 才知道这个。costco 配眼镜的地方？
我咨询的医生说misight的效果是压平近视增长曲线，让增长减缓。最好的效果是度数不涨，并不能逆转。
不是说misight是适合12岁以下的吗？
请问MM你的眼科医生给开misight处方？我们的好像必须要在她们诊所开处方买镜片一套的。
请问costco的misight是拿着医生的处方就可以买吗？多少钱呢？ 我刚刚带孩子看完眼科回来，我们医生offer的misight program价格是1600 不知道和costco的差多少？
也想知道这个
对，拿眼光单，一年应该不到一千，具体我记不清了，反正是比外面便宜好多。
请问costco只能在店里买吗？网上没找到这个牌子啊..,还是它家隐形眼镜不叫misight?
1000不到是不是weekly 的那种？
没有比较过，但是我一开始对ok镜就是比较抵制的。还好可以让娃戴这个。
请问你们的MiSight一年是多少钱呢？
拿处方买，就想买隐形眼镜一样， 非常方便。 查到收据了，我去年花了$539.96 是半年的用量。 没有税。
$539。96 是全部自付的价格。 如果Costco有收你的保险，那自付就更少了。
拿处方就可以买。 你不放心先电话询问一下。
我发现Costco有misight,就找了几年前用过的眼光师给验的。 原来专做Misight的眼光师就没再找她。
我们中西部大农村不算贵，一年一千左右吧。
我们这里眼科医生直接定的。当然价格也不贵，跟你说的差不多。
你那的医生收的真是便宜。 我第一年找了三家问价，华人白人医生收的都贵，老印最便宜$1500。第二年 找到Costco是最好的价格。
我们农村地方消费低。
请问costco可以网上买吗？
啊，为什么我的医生说要摘下来
没网上买过。
应该比ok镜软，不会伤角膜。
我这的医生说保险不cover。我也做rebate了，那个200刀是credits,还是现金卡？我选邮寄physical card了
我们也是一年1500左右，医生帮我们订的
跟普通隐形眼镜不一样的，会大一些。然后原理据说是跟那个眼药水什么的类似的吧，所以会防止近视加深。 我之前也做过一些ok镜的研究，顾虑主要是，第一，硬的镜片害怕伤角膜，晚上戴着睡觉孩子不舒服。第二，据说晚上戴有时候眼镜片会掉，第二天下午的时候眼睛视力没有那么好。第三，清洗浸泡什么的很麻烦，不方便，misight用完就扔，很方便。
"效果不如ok镜"----请问是个人感受，还是有数据？
好奇是多美丽？
我孩子的医生建议我们戴ok镜，说她们诊所的孩子戴OK镜比misight 效果好，我主要怕OK镜磨角膜，选了Misight
ok镜很多翻车的。很考验医生技术。ok镜最大的问题是很多无良医生过矫，看着度数没变，其实早就涨上去了。ok镜一定要搭配眼轴监测。
太好了！谢谢！
请问比ok镜保证睡眠是什么意思
Costco验光师也可以看这个，我上回去，她对我说的，如果你有vsp 保险还包。eyemed 需要自己申报。
有医生写过的。Ortho-k lenses are worn nightly, and children with myopia can see the next day without using corrective lenses or eyeglasses. Because they are custom-fitted to each eye and have a large range of parameters, the level of attainable vision correction is far greater than MiSight lenses. Ortho-k lenses can treat moderate to high levels of myopia and astigmatism. MiSight lenses are the first FDA-approved lenses for controlling myopia progression in children. Three, five, and seven-year studies have clinically shown that MiSight lenses effectively slow axial elongation by an average of 59%. https://www.miamicontactlens.com/misight-vs-orthokeratology-which-option-is-better-for-your-child/
Misight摘了隐形眼镜测量就是真实的眼镜度数啊！
我家也是八岁娃，没有这个问题，刚开始的两天戴得比较慢，后面就非常熟练了，每天早上一两分钟就搞定了，并且戴和脱都是自己负责，我不用操心。白天在学校也从来没有掉出来过，不过戴了隐形眼镜不能大哭不能常揉眼睛就是了。我身边好多朋友的孩子戴，没有听说过有什么问题。
这一点比OK镜好。
OK镜听带以后需要慢慢才能回复到裸眼的视力。所以其实无法测出来到底有没有涨度数。
我总有点怀疑医生说娃没涨度数是不是真的。
可能你家孩子不太适合MISIGHT，那可以考虑换OK镜试试。
“ok镜一定要搭配眼轴监测。”
这个是什么意思呢？如果度数没有加深，是不是这个眼轴的长度就不应该看到改变是吗？我们下次检查的时候我和医生要求一下。
我印象中OK镜有效率好像比59%高不少，说是90% 多。
我们医生说最好不要戴着隐形眼镜游泳洗澡。水里有一种细菌容易吸附在镜片上。
可以
娃的眼科医生说，OK镜停了2-3天，视力就打回原形了。这样是不是就可以测真实的度数了
不行，至少需要3周以上，度数越深戴的越久需要wash out时间越久
我家也有这个顾虑，总是不自觉的揉眼睛，而且有散光，医生说misight散光纠正不佳，但ok清洁维护好麻烦，正纠结带哪一种
请问角膜受伤是怎么发生的呢，摘取过程中吗？角膜受伤的症状是啥呀，会痛吗？
FDA approve了吧