卖的东西有些是用过的,有些全新但是不再用了,ebay给发了1099-K,总共收入5000刀,但是算上ebay的各种fees,其实真正cost快6000了。我在H&R上填了这个收入和cost,发现会给我退回300刀左右的税 -- 有这等好事吗?还是我弄错了,可不想IRS来个audit。 另外H&R里问这个问题是啥意思:Did you have inventory in 2023? 我卖的东西有些是2022年买的,有些是2023年买的。我应该回答yes or no?
你10万买的新车,开了几年4万卖掉,难道报税的时候还能折抵6万收入吗?这种被个人生活消费消耗掉的价值,是不可以抵税的 全新的100块 gift card或者全新的100块价值的电饭锅,你40块低价卖掉,你不用为这40块缴税。能不能用60块的亏空去抵税,我就不知道了。不知道这种报税的时候怎么操作。。。难道要用schedule C?
看情况, 1)如果只是hobby profit要交税(类似w2),但是cost 不能抵税 2)如果你通过买卖是赚钱的,那就是business了,净收入需要交税 3)偶尔卖几次,只有卖得比进价高,才要交税,类似于garage or yard sale 所以楼主的问题是自己判断,是hobby还是business 是hobby很简单,纯利润加在other income 是business,稍微复杂一些
small business的证明是什么?我有个E I N,之前弄了一个sole proprietor想干副业,结果副业没有时间去弄一分钱也没赚。,不过ebay上用的是S S N,没有用E I N。 我理解的ebay的账户类型跟报税无关吧,ebay personal account比business account少些feature,ebay的business定义不是I R S的定义。personal account也可以做business用。
好像是,我因为是在夏天卖的,当时还信誓旦旦0以上要给1099 -- On November 21, 2023, the IRS issued Notice 2023-74 providing another delay of the $600 reporting threshold to help ease the transition to the new reporting requirement. As a result, for tax year 2023, only eBay sellers who exceed the current reporting threshold of $20,000 and 200 transactions, had backup withholding applied in 2023, or are residents of states that have a lower reporting threshold will receive a Form 1099-K.
我在网上看到的 Reporting 2022 eBay 1099-K Personal Item Sales on Federal Income Tax Return https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Reporting-2022-eBay-1099-K-Personal-Item-Sales-on-Federal-Income/td-p/33366334#:~:text=The%201099%2DK%20gross%20amount%20is%20entered%20on%20Schedule%201,as%20a%20non%2Ddeductible%20loss. “The 1099-K gross amount is entered on Schedule 1, Part I, Line 8z as “Other Income” along with an explanation such as “Income Reported From 1099-K”.” 里面有个视频 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_mz6Lk0alg “Use IRS Form 8949 to claim the sale as a non-deductible loss using Code L” 这里把Loss 报在Schedule D 里,但是这个Loss 是non-deductible loss 。 总之就是不走系统输入1099-k,根据情况在对应的地方输。 ---- 另外找到IRS的说明 https://www.irs.gov/businesses/what-to-do-with-form-1099-k#:~:text=A%20loss%20on%20the%20sale,t%20pay%20taxes%20on%20it. Personal items sold at a loss A loss on the sale of a personal item can''t be deducted from your taxes. But you can zero out the reported gross income so you don''t pay taxes on it. If you sold personal items at a loss, you have 2 options to report the loss: Report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040) You can report and then zero out the Form 1099-K gross payment amount on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), Additional Income and Adjustments to IncomePDF. Example: You receive a Form 1099-K that includes the sale of your car online for $21,000, which is less than you paid for it. On Schedule 1 (Form 1040): Enter the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part I – Line 8z – Other Income: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss, $21,000" Offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part II – Line 24z – Other Adjustments: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss $21,000" These 2 entries result in a $0 net effect on your adjusted gross income (AGI). Report on Form 8949 You can also report the loss on Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets, which carries to Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses.
sallyyy 发表于 2024-03-11 11:23 我在网上看到的 Reporting 2022 eBay 1099-K Personal Item Sales on Federal Income Tax Return https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Reporting-2022-eBay-1099-K-Personal-Item-Sales-on-Federal-Income/td-p/33366334#:~:text=The%201099%2DK%20gross%20amount%20is%20entered%20on%20Schedule%201,as%20a%20non%2Ddeductible%20loss. “The 1099-K gross amount is entered on Schedule 1, Part I, Line 8z as “Other Income” along with an explanation such as “Income Reported From 1099-K”.” 里面有个视频 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_mz6Lk0alg “Use IRS Form 8949 to claim the sale as a non-deductible loss using Code L” 这里把Loss 报在Schedule D 里,但是这个Loss 是non-deductible loss 。 总之就是不走系统输入1099-k,根据情况在对应的地方输。 ---- 另外找到IRS的说明 https://www.irs.gov/businesses/what-to-do-with-form-1099-k#:~:text=A%20loss%20on%20the%20sale,t%20pay%20taxes%20on%20it. Personal items sold at a loss A loss on the sale of a personal item can''t be deducted from your taxes. But you can zero out the reported gross income so you don''t pay taxes on it. If you sold personal items at a loss, you have 2 options to report the loss: Report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040) You can report and then zero out the Form 1099-K gross payment amount on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), Additional Income and Adjustments to IncomePDF. Example: You receive a Form 1099-K that includes the sale of your car online for $21,000, which is less than you paid for it. On Schedule 1 (Form 1040): Enter the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part I – Line 8z – Other Income: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss, $21,000" Offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part II – Line 24z – Other Adjustments: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss $21,000" These 2 entries result in a $0 net effect on your adjusted gross income (AGI). Report on Form 8949 You can also report the loss on Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets, which carries to Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses.
就是减出个负利润,软件给算的。所以我应该把负利润调成0?
我举个例子,我有好几台很旧的不用的IBM Thinkpad,当初买的很贵,现在绝对没人要。我要是现在ebay 0.01元卖掉,我岂不是减出个负值可以抵很大一笔收入税?你想这可能吗?
你不是专业卖家,你只是个处理自己的二手,你不能算亏损的,我自己的理解
全新的100块 gift card或者全新的100块价值的电饭锅,你40块低价卖掉,你不用为这40块缴税。能不能用60块的亏空去抵税,我就不知道了。不知道这种报税的时候怎么操作。。。难道要用schedule C?
HR block的premium版本上应该可以让你填写是否有个人的经营实体,你填个网上贩售,应该就会让你报进货花多少钱,收入多少钱(你的1099在这里应该可以上载了),这个亏空就成功抵税了,最后会表现为一个Schedule C
不过我也是个二把刀,不是非常懂。班上懂税的行家很多,请指点。
是用了schedule c,h&r給自动生成这个 。占大头的是新的或仅是拆了包装的。当时买是觉得是deal留着将来用或者送人,后来发现占地方干脆处理掉
你在ebay只是普普通通的个人账户吧?要是的话你就别想太多了。你买来不用再卖那也是二手了,只是偶尔处理自己的物品,不是以盈利为目的的贩售
这样容易被audit,来吧,先把small business证明准备好。。。
我先声明,我也个人猜测,lz还是自己做些功课。我记得600以上发1099,我今年卖了俩不用的pad,最终为了避免麻烦定价在598卖了。。。。。
同好奇这一点,楼主这个帖很有启发性
希望懂行的版友来解惑
我就是这种情况。H&R里填1099-K,然后问cost,我就把ebay fees和当时买东西invoice上的总额全算进去了。
那是2022把,2023是大于600就发,不包含税 和fee的值
1)如果只是hobby
profit要交税(类似w2),但是cost 不能抵税
2)如果你通过买卖是赚钱的,那就是business了,净收入需要交税
3)偶尔卖几次,只有卖得比进价高,才要交税,类似于garage or yard sale
所以楼主的问题是自己判断,是hobby还是business
是hobby很简单,纯利润加在other income
是business,稍微复杂一些
我记得$600的政策推迟了三年. 2023 还是$20,000才发1099k
我说免费不要钱,不过在我不知情的情况下,孩子收了人家$4,000
这个可以不报的,不过我还是报成了hobby,作为other income,W2多出来$4,000
先为不可胜
small business的证明是什么?我有个E I N,之前弄了一个sole proprietor想干副业,结果副业没有时间去弄一分钱也没赚。,不过ebay上用的是S S N,没有用E I N。 我理解的ebay的账户类型跟报税无关吧,ebay personal account比business account少些feature,ebay的business定义不是I R S的定义。personal account也可以做business用。
但只要有1099-K,就必须报税
不是利润,是总收入,ebay 1099k上的总额,还没除去各种transaction fees,shipping fees
总卖价把,估计成本在7500左右,最后搞出个亏损2500左右
是的,有1099-K就要报。以前的规定是$20k和200个transaction一下,ebay不发1099-K,但是现在600刀以上就发。
卖的东西不是天上掉下来的
把买价减去,可能利润就是零了(这一步,eBAY的fee不去管它)
比如利润成了$100,就是hobby(other income 100),但各种fee不能抵扣
是2024才开始600, 2021-2023还是 $20, 000. 多数state的人不应该因为$5000ebay交易, 收到1099k.
好像是,我因为是在夏天卖的,当时还信誓旦旦0以上要给1099
-- On November 21, 2023, the IRS issued Notice 2023-74 providing another delay of the $600 reporting threshold to help ease the transition to the new reporting requirement. As a result, for tax year 2023, only eBay sellers who exceed the current reporting threshold of $20,000 and 200 transactions, had backup withholding applied in 2023, or are residents of states that have a lower reporting threshold will receive a Form 1099-K.
奇怪,2023年不是规定交易金额超过20000美元,并且交易数量超过200笔的ebay卖家才会要求报税吗?怎么ebay会给你出1099-K?
但2024年的交易额超过5000就需要报税
https://www.taxact.com/tax-information/1099-k-reporting-thresholds-for-ebay-sellers
错 loss可以抵扣。但要有证据真的是loss
楼主这种手欠高买低卖我觉得报loss没有问题
有些州要求不一样。另外那个$20K和200个交易的额度,是指超过这个额度,ebay必须要发1099-k,并不是说这个额度以下,ebay就不能发1099-k。
里面有个视频 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_mz6Lk0alg “Use IRS Form 8949 to claim the sale as a non-deductible loss using Code L” 这里把Loss 报在Schedule D 里,但是这个Loss 是non-deductible loss 。 总之就是不走系统输入1099-k,根据情况在对应的地方输。 ---- 另外找到IRS的说明 https://www.irs.gov/businesses/what-to-do-with-form-1099-k#:~:text=A%20loss%20on%20the%20sale,t%20pay%20taxes%20on%20it. Personal items sold at a loss A loss on the sale of a personal item can''t be deducted from your taxes. But you can zero out the reported gross income so you don''t pay taxes on it. If you sold personal items at a loss, you have 2 options to report the loss: Report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040) You can report and then zero out the Form 1099-K gross payment amount on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), Additional Income and Adjustments to IncomePDF. Example: You receive a Form 1099-K that includes the sale of your car online for $21,000, which is less than you paid for it. On Schedule 1 (Form 1040): Enter the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part I – Line 8z – Other Income: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss, $21,000" Offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part II – Line 24z – Other Adjustments: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss $21,000" These 2 entries result in a $0 net effect on your adjusted gross income (AGI). Report on Form 8949 You can also report the loss on Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets, which carries to Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses.
你好强啊,我也刚刚研究明白了,代表大家感谢你。