从今年开始不再给Essay打分，“We’re just no longer assuming that the essay is an accurate reflection of the student’s actual writing ability,” Duke University is no longer assigning numerical ratings to applicants’ standardized test scores and essays, a university spokesperson confirmed in an email to Inside Higher Ed. The change was made earlier this year and has been in effect for the latest round of applications. In the past Duke has assigned point values of one to five to applicants’ essays and standardized test scores, which in turn were factored into a holistic score on a 30-point scale. The university is still using the point system, but only for the remaining numerically weighted categories: curriculum strength, academics, recommendations and extracurriculars. Dean of undergraduate admissions Christoph Guttentag told The Chronicle, the university’s student newspaper, that the choice to stop assigning points to applicants’ essays is largely due to the rise of AI-generated writing among current high school and college students as well as concerns about ghostwritten essays from highly paid college consultants. [Consultants 帮着写essay不是新现象，早就有了，但很贵所以毕竟是少数人。ChatGPT 以后人人都有了写作助手，这才是主要原因吧] “Essays are very much part of our understanding of the applicant. We’re just no longer assuming that the essay is an accurate reflection of the student’s actual writing ability,” Guttentag said. He added that the essay decision had no relation to last summer’s Supreme Court ruling striking down affirmative action, though applicant essays have become a focal point in discussions about how selective colleges can continue to admit racially diverse classes. Duke is currently operating under a temporary test-optional policy put in place during the pandemic, but the decision not to assign points for scores does not mean the university is going test blind; scores will still be considered when students choose to submit them. Many of Duke’s highly selective peers, including Dartmouth College and Columbia University, have recently come down on one side or the other of the intensifying debate over testing requirements in admissions. 原文出处 https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/02/21/duke-stops-assigning-numeric-values-essays-test-scores https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants
nakamoto 发表于 2024-03-04 19:32 从今年开始不再给Essay打分，“We’re just no longer assuming that the essay is an accurate reflection of the student’s actual writing ability,” Duke University is no longer assigning numerical ratings to applicants’ standardized test scores and essays, a university spokesperson confirmed in an email to Inside Higher Ed. The change was made earlier this year and has been in effect for the latest round of applications. In the past Duke has assigned point values of one to five to applicants’ essays and standardized test scores, which in turn were factored into a holistic score on a 30-point scale. The university is still using the point system, but only for the remaining numerically weighted categories: curriculum strength, academics, recommendations and extracurriculars. Dean of undergraduate admissions Christoph Guttentag told The Chronicle, the university’s student newspaper, that the choice to stop assigning points to applicants’ essays is largely due to the rise of AI-generated writing among current high school and college students as well as concerns about ghostwritten essays from highly paid college consultants. [Consultants 帮着写essay不是新现象，早就有了，但很贵所以毕竟是少数人。ChatGPT 以后人人都有了写作助手，这才是主要原因吧] “Essays are very much part of our understanding of the applicant. We’re just no longer assuming that the essay is an accurate reflection of the student’s actual writing ability,” Guttentag said. He added that the essay decision had no relation to last summer’s Supreme Court ruling striking down affirmative action, though applicant essays have become a focal point in discussions about how selective colleges can continue to admit racially diverse classes. Duke is currently operating under a temporary test-optional policy put in place during the pandemic, but the decision not to assign points for scores does not mean the university is going test blind; scores will still be considered when students choose to submit them. Many of Duke’s highly selective peers, including Dartmouth College and Columbia University, have recently come down on one side or the other of the intensifying debate over testing requirements in admissions. 原文出处 https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/02/21/duke-stops-assigning-numeric-values-essays-test-scores https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants
Duke University is no longer assigning numerical ratings to applicants’ standardized test scores and essays, a university spokesperson confirmed in an email to Inside Higher Ed. The change was made earlier this year and has been in effect for the latest round of applications.
In the past Duke has assigned point values of one to five to applicants’ essays and standardized test scores, which in turn were factored into a holistic score on a 30-point scale. The university is still using the point system, but only for the remaining numerically weighted categories: curriculum strength, academics, recommendations and extracurriculars.
Dean of undergraduate admissions Christoph Guttentag told The Chronicle, the university’s student newspaper, that the choice to stop assigning points to applicants’ essays is largely due to the rise of AI-generated writing among current high school and college students as well as concerns about ghostwritten essays from highly paid college consultants.
[Consultants 帮着写essay不是新现象，早就有了，但很贵所以毕竟是少数人。ChatGPT 以后人人都有了写作助手，这才是主要原因吧]
“Essays are very much part of our understanding of the applicant. We’re just no longer assuming that the essay is an accurate reflection of the student’s actual writing ability,” Guttentag said. He added that the essay decision had no relation to last summer’s Supreme Court ruling striking down affirmative action, though applicant essays have become a focal point in discussions about how selective colleges can continue to admit racially diverse classes.
Duke is currently operating under a temporary test-optional policy put in place during the pandemic, but the decision not to assign points for scores does not mean the university is going test blind; scores will still be considered when students choose to submit them. Many of Duke’s highly selective peers, including Dartmouth College and Columbia University, have recently come down on one side or the other of the intensifying debate over testing requirements in admissions.
原文出处
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/02/21/duke-stops-assigning-numeric-values-essays-test-scores
https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2024/02/duke-university-undergraduate-admissions-changes-numerical-rating-standardized-testing-essays-covid-test-optional-ai-generated-college-consultants
没有ChatGPT的年代 条件好的家庭雇人帮忙润色essay很普遍 也没见这些学校说essay不重要 现在ChatGPT人人皆可用，把门槛给打掉了，就想起来要改掉 这些满脑子都是equity的大学，都在想些啥呢？
找人润色的前提是你自己有东西，chatgpt需要你自己有什么
以前的算法是， 如果Essay 写的好
1 - 学生水平真的是很高，可造之才，录取 2 - 学生请的顾问水平真的是很高，学生家财万贯，富二代，能付得起学费，录取
现在ChatGPT 搅局，这个算法不灵了
不是很多人说 chatgpt 水平很差， 比好学生写的差远了吗？
SAT卷土重来。
我在英国时候好一点的学校都是面试的。 剑桥牛津一直都面试， 我记得lse ucl 也要面，面完了才给 offer （很多conditional offer, 要求成绩达到多少）
重来啥，没看这个新闻第一句在essay前面说的那个是什么？
SAT score 在那摆着， 你给不给个 numerical rating 无关紧要呀。
说不定以后不看小作文，加面试，那就更容易歧视了
哦，我根本没看主楼的文章
印象中好几所名校最近重新要求SAT。看来杜克不是。
感觉越来越多的学校会再要求SAT的。
还是得学中国高考 统一考试才是硬道理
很有道理
都是私校，自己有权决定招什么样的人。
那是以前的私校。现在的私校可没你想的那么硬气，不拿federal，state钱的很难抗下去，几个硬气的以为有alumni撑腰的，最近又被追着拿legacy说事。再过几年，endowment玛尼没了，这些私校就变历史了都说不定
我觉得得要，因为SAT侧重考察所谓的先天学术潜力， 有些学校可能更重视这一点。
所以那些小作文，如果是用于了解学生的背景以及将来的打算（这些就算别人替自己做，学生也得自个儿认同吧？关于自己的背景，如果胡说，那就是造假了，是有可能查出来的），是没问题的。
用于考察学生的写作水平？那就是笑话了。。。 当然，写的很烂的，肯定是学生写作水平确实烂。但写的好的，绝不代表学生写作水平就好。
关于文中提到的 curriculum strength，据说在某些人眼中，IB课程里的B相当于AP里的A，不知是真是假。
当然不真了。你拿一个IB全B的成绩单去申请大学看看是不是被视为全A？
同意，上次那个什么harvard录取的小作文，什么bullXX。
怎么可能。 总有人把IB说的特别悬，可我们这里最厉害的孩子没一个是走IB路线，考虑IB的大多是10年级已经不是最厉害的那一批学生，选择换道，不跟他们比。
所以我一直很疑惑， 那些写作比赛的含金量 是怎么来的？
去年听说一个藤校孩子在网上考试时，监控仪探测到他的眼睛所视方向不对，便判定为是作弊。
😂 好有才 同意
那我用两个显示器，我的眼睛永远是斜着的怎么办
good point.
面试是个好主意，最好一连面几天，全部要自付旅馆和路费，这样可以有效刷掉一部分家境不合格的。。。
好事，希望推广。把这些虚头巴脑还劳民伤财的东西都取消最好。
总结很精辟
不是所有学生都有条件让家长帮润色啊。但是现在chatgpt是谁都可以用 零门槛。所以自然就是等于大家都在同一个起跑线了 看essay也说明不了什么问题
这个世界上没有绝对的公平。也没有任何一种机制能到达到让人无法投机取巧，所以“制度”和“规则”都在不断的升级，因为大家“投机取巧”的手段也是越来越高。
不光是升学考试，税收制度，福利制度，还是总统选举。
记得中学时有篇英语课文好像是说将来科技发达之后， 人一出生就往大脑里植入一个类似知识库的小片儿片儿。 我当时想那得多疼啊。
不知道啊。
永远斜着应该没问题。有问题的是眼睛在固定的两处地方来回看啊
看essay的时候学校不会先筛选一遍看看哪个是chatgpt写的吗？
起码现在的来看，写作比赛大奖的文章比chatgpt的明显好
据说很多误伤的，根本分辨不出来
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不是 chatgpt 才出现的问题。 主要是怎么证明是自己 写的？
Good point! 也有富人一年十万雇升学顾问。
面试是非常biased一个过程。唉。深深了解过程。
但不排除不完全是本人写的
绝大多数学校都声明面试不影响录取，因为面试都是校友义务干的，不是学校雇员。如果面试是因素之一，那没有录取的学生可能会不满而要求查看面试记录，起诉学校和面试人，种族主义性别歧视地域歧视 blah blah。学校和校友的责任压力很大，也没有校友愿意干了。所以至少官面上学校都是说面不面试对录取没有影响。