回复 1楼 wdopp 的帖子 居然是真的！难怪最近没见发布啥 BREAKING: Apple, $AAPL, winding down electric car plans, ending decade-long foray into autos 2/27/2024 Apple Inc. has made a surprising internal announcement, terminating its decade-long effort to develop an electric car, as disclosed by individuals familiar with the matter. This move marks the end of one of the most ambitious projects in the company's history. The decision was communicated on Tuesday to nearly 2,000 employees involved in the project, according to sources who preferred anonymity because the announcement was not public.
Chief Operating Officer Jeff Williams and Kevin Lynch, a vice president overseeing the endeavor, informed the team that the project would begin winding down. Many employees from the Special Projects Group (SPG), responsible for the car, will transition to the artificial intelligence division led by executive John Giannandrea. Their focus will shift to generative AI projects, aligning with the company's evolving priorities. While several hundred hardware engineers and car designers comprise the Apple car team, it remains uncertain how they will be reassigned within the company. Layoffs are expected, although specific numbers are yet to be disclosed. Apple, headquartered in Cupertino, California, declined to provide further comment. The decision to terminate the project is significant, representing the conclusion of a multibillion-dollar effort that aimed to propel Apple into the automotive industry. Initially embarked upon around 2014, the project envisioned a fully autonomous electric vehicle boasting a luxurious interior and advanced navigation features.
师兄会装啊！
不过10年前就算开始搞，都已经晚了
Some Apple car employees to be cut, many will shift to AI
记得发布电动车计划那天股票暴涨
所以 下次重新发布再涨一次？
华尔街真会玩
果子下神坛了。
当年弄车车，也是乔布斯拍板的吧？
居然是真的！难怪最近没见发布啥
BREAKING: Apple, $AAPL, winding down electric car plans, ending decade-long foray into autos 2/27/2024
Apple Inc. has made a surprising internal announcement, terminating its decade-long effort to develop an electric car, as disclosed by individuals familiar with the matter. This move marks the end of one of the most ambitious projects in the company's history. The decision was communicated on Tuesday to nearly 2,000 employees involved in the project, according to sources who preferred anonymity because the announcement was not public.
Chief Operating Officer Jeff Williams and Kevin Lynch, a vice president overseeing the endeavor, informed the team that the project would begin winding down. Many employees from the Special Projects Group (SPG), responsible for the car, will transition to the artificial intelligence division led by executive John Giannandrea. Their focus will shift to generative AI projects, aligning with the company's evolving priorities.
While several hundred hardware engineers and car designers comprise the Apple car team, it remains uncertain how they will be reassigned within the company. Layoffs are expected, although specific numbers are yet to be disclosed. Apple, headquartered in Cupertino, California, declined to provide further comment.
The decision to terminate the project is significant, representing the conclusion of a multibillion-dollar effort that aimed to propel Apple into the automotive industry. Initially embarked upon around 2014, the project envisioned a fully autonomous electric vehicle boasting a luxurious interior and advanced navigation features.
当时特斯拉相对苹果还没有特别强大，从特斯拉挖了很多人，我们还说为什么不直接收了特斯拉
本可以花几个 billion 收购特斯垃的。
Apple Cancels Work on Electric Car, Shifts Team to Generative AI.
The news shocked the 2,000 employees working on the project.
当年特斯拉主动找apple求买，最后没成。那还是tsla股票最低潮的时候 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-tried-sell-tesla-181810530.html
不看新闻？不是不好造，而是现在EV市场在转向。传统车厂也deprioritize电车了。电车风口应该是过了，除非电池技术出现重大突破。
我买的电池股都一塌糊涂，整个放弃了。
这个新闻说明后jobs时代苹果啥创新都搞不出来，恰恰说明是该卖苹果的时候了吧
中国整天吹固态电池，也不知真假。
苹果估计全靠手机撑着吧，这个市场确实太大了。尤其苹果手机生态环境搞得比安卓好太多了。
应该是个电池热点。东亚三国和美加都在竞争这个。其实到底能不能救电车也不好说。
厨子就是没有Vision，当年Tesla缺钱快破产了要贱卖，apple手里大把现金发霉不买，真是短视
确实。他估计骨子里瞧不起直男，据说都没接马斯克电话。
此“师兄”估计已经财富自由了：）
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幸好没弄 不然成贾跃亭2代
那是你租的电车不好或者没用快充。我们家电车18分钟能冲到80%，200多迈
同意！还有一个就是中国电车发展很快，造价低，所以竞争太激烈了。再投下去，可能血本无归，不如及时转向，投入在至少目前市场更追捧的AI概念。
我在想这十年，果家不会什么都没做出来吧？能🆚能把小点的成果/专利卖给tesla, 也不算白干一场吧。
啥车？特斯拉快充十几分钟100多200英里不成问题。在家充电虽然慢些，但是晚上睡觉时你也不用车。反正我换电车后每周不需要去加油站省好多时间，家里只有电车了，没有里程焦虑，包括长途。更别说不再需要花时间换机油了，刹车大概率也不需要换，我经常一天都踩不了几次刹车
估计投入太多，风险太大。苹果现在要对股民负责呀
是 手动点赞
这是正确的方向
用了GPT惊讶发现 你以公事公办的口气让它做事 它的回答也是一本正经 你以朋友的身份让它做事 它的回答可是柔和得多 好玩
所以不是菜不行 是厨子不行
我觉得应该进几股tesla才对
Apple做不好的东西多着呢，何止一个car，割肉止损是正确的. Jobs还活着的时候，就大骂作apple cloud的那帮人搞出来的东西像屎一样，最后停掉了。
是大家都预计大嘴要重回白宫，大嘴回归，电车玩完。
充电时间和加油时间比？这点就算了吧。路过加油站加个油几分钟，根本不用特意找加油站加油。
说这种话的真的不关心时事政治经济，拍脑瓜想一个自以为是的观点
新事物出现初期肯定有不完善的地方，但你不能否认它的趋势
不是钱的问题，是除了手机苹果都拿不出什么好东西了
首先是这个 team 不行，端。
苹果这种公司，对版上大妈们热衷各种公司爬梯子坑公司的技巧，拎得贼清。
苹果以不变应万变的办法就是一个字：端。
摩托罗拉的芯片拉跨，端。
英特尔的芯片拉跨，端。
电车还是自动车没做出来，端。
显然你这种看法是非主流，美国政府和媒体这么疯狂的推电车，现在也推不动了。美国想买现在这种电车的差不多都买了。市场渗透例差不多到顶了。就看电车近几年会不会有重大的提升了。
完全eliminate 了加油，充电也是用下班后车停在家里的时间，当然是比开油车省时间了。哪怕你一部车加油耗时10分钟（进出加油站+加油的时间），两台车一周至少20分钟吧？这些时间我都不需要。除非职业是司机靠开车吃饭的，否则日常通勤+偶尔长途绝对开电车省心省时间。
车的市场太大，估计以后可以东山再起。
做什么做好了都不容易。
这是美国制造业的问题，不是电车的问题，你敢放 byd 进来？ 电车 三万美元基本妙杀任何油车。
Model 3 最低版也要 $38k
主流就一定代表未来的方向？美国的主流就是世界的主流吗？事实是电车在全世界大部分主要市场占有率都在快速上升，美国要不跟全世界一起玩，要不被历史潮流抛弃。电车在美国基本只有一个选择就是特斯拉，肯定不是每个人都喜欢特斯拉的，那不就只有油车可以选择了吗。美国牌子的电车都是垃圾。政府各种保护扶持措施都扶不起一两个有竞争力的电池供应商和特斯拉以外的车厂，不是因为电车没前途，而是因为美国技术上已经落后了。这样不充分竞争的市场没资格代表汽车的主流。
当然不代表未来，就是一个现在的事实而已。不用推理太多。写一大段，逻辑一塌糊涂
有些人看不得比亚迪好，直接黑整个电车行业，这才叫没逻辑。咋了？怕以后油车卖不出去德州石油公司也不行了？
放比亚迪进美国？那真的不让美国活了。美国人民会暂时受益，可是会加快美国的倒下吧。估计会慢慢进美国市场，但是税会很高。