重磅!湾区大厂Cisco 宣布裁员近5000人。IT公司没完没了

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appleseeds
楼主 (北美华人网)
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hud31
挺好的啊,马工太多了,太热了,市场调节
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retiep
我觉得他们家裁20%一点问题没有。
小蓝飞飞
cisco不是年年月月裁
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appleseeds
cisco不是年年月月裁
小蓝飞飞 发表于 2024-02-14 16:59

5000人很多了。Nvidia 才多少人
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WernerCA
才5%,而且是全球,在湾区连水花都溅不起一朵儿。
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multiplelife
这是湾区排名第一的养老大厂吧?也不能养老了?那以后湾区还有哪家可以养老了?ibm和oracle还挺得住么?
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lendingclubs
Tech市场惨死了,朝不保夕的,好不容易包裹大一点,眨眼可能就没了
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lendingclubs
这是湾区排名第一的养老大厂吧?也不能养老了?那以后湾区还有哪家可以养老了?ibm和oracle还挺得住么?
multiplelife 发表于 2024-02-14 17:16

别着急,都会轮着裁,一个不能少
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jpbabyking
著名的养老大厂, 早就不太行,还是裁少了
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laohua001
挺好的啊,马工太多了,太热了,市场调节
hud31 发表于 2024-02-14 16:53

你也别高兴
layoff 的不仅是马工,医生nurse都在layoff, 只不过不是一次很多人,但是累计人数也不少了。 还有药工layoff的也不少
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youyouzou
你也别高兴
layoff 的不仅是马工,医生nurse都在layoff, 只不过不是一次很多人,但是累计人数也不少了。 还有药工layoff的也不少
laohua001 发表于 2024-02-14 17:24

不是医生很难预约到,护士短缺吗? 实际砸回事?
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eragshs
这是湾区排名第一的养老大厂吧?也不能养老了?那以后湾区还有哪家可以养老了?ibm和oracle还挺得住么?
multiplelife 发表于 2024-02-14 17:16

oracle我觉得没有问题
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lovery
你也别高兴
layoff 的不仅是马工,医生nurse都在layoff, 只不过不是一次很多人,但是累计人数也不少了。 还有药工layoff的也不少
laohua001 发表于 2024-02-14 17:24

医护招工小广告满天飞,哪里来的裁员?
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laohua001
不是医生很难预约到,护士短缺吗? 实际砸回事?
youyouzou 发表于 2024-02-14 17:26

你应该明白,难约是病人的事, layoff医生护士能减少支出提高利润。 现在一个医生做过去几个人的活,工资没有暴涨。
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laohua001
医护招工小广告满天飞,哪里来的裁员?
lovery 发表于 2024-02-14 17:28

Job cuts in US healthcare last year totaled nearly 60,000, up more than 90% from 2022. The sector fell only behind tech and retail when ranked by the number of layoffs in 2023. And those cuts were spread across American employers.Feb 6, 2024
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theblingblings
Job cuts in US healthcare last year totaled nearly 60,000, up more than 90% from 2022. The sector fell only behind tech and retail when ranked by the number of layoffs in 2023. And those cuts were spread across American employers.Feb 6, 2024
laohua001 发表于 2024-02-14 17:29

新闻里不是这么写的吧?这条新闻里第一个标题就是“Nurses and doctors, your jobs are safe(r). Layoffs have mostly hit managerial and administrative staffers rather than patient-facing roles.”
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lvk
WTF
简单
Work from overseas.
金生水起
新闻里不是这么写的吧?这条新闻里第一个标题就是“Nurses and doctors, your jobs are safe(r). Layoffs have mostly hit managerial and administrative staffers rather than patient-facing roles.”
theblingblings 发表于 2024-02-14 18:10

医生护士工作保障不要太牢靠了
金生水起
大厂裁员这么久了,还不认识任何一个人受到影响,也许认识人太少,感觉有点雷声大雨点小
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WernerCA
oracle我觉得没有问题
eragshs 发表于 2024-02-14 17:27

Oracle早就擂过好几轮了,各个部门分开搞的。Larry大叔这点儿手腕还是有的。
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momclub17
大厂裁员这么久了,还不认识任何一个人受到影响,也许认识人太少,感觉有点雷声大雨点小
金生水起 发表于 2024-02-14 18:59

大厂被裁员我只认识一个。几个月后也找到工作了,还都没绿卡是h1。
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nicecool
医生护士工作保障不要太牢靠了
金生水起 发表于 2024-02-14 18:57

AI第一个要横扫的就是医生,护士还好一些。。。
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50cents
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,cisco娇妻哭晕在老王家。。。。
人在呢
X裁员的榜样影响董事会的决定,还有就是腾出空给AI
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lyalexmm
天天看it裁员,华人大妈还前赴后继推娃cs
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TEMUPDD
怎么吃进去的,怎么吐出来
这叫市场调节
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appleseeds
这是湾区排名第一的养老大厂吧?也不能养老了?那以后湾区还有哪家可以养老了?ibm和oracle还挺得住么?
multiplelife 发表于 2024-02-14 17:16

LinkedIn 笑了
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meftw
天天看it裁员,华人大妈还前赴后继推娃cs
lyalexmm 发表于 2024-02-14 19:38

Cisco 主要是硅工/硬工吧
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Geofan
思科本来就是每年一次吧?这家也算养老大厂?只知道他家导演史上最低
公用马甲40
思科本来就是每年一次吧?这家也算养老大厂?只知道他家导演史上最低
Geofan 发表于 2024-02-14 20:15

Cisco Director 一年好像总包裹40 万左右。算是较低的
移硌麻假
虽然但是,around 4250 是近5000人? 幸灾乐祸别太难看
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hellohey
AI第一个要横扫的就是医生,护士还好一些。。。
nicecool 发表于 2024-02-14 19:18

护士也难说啊,也许以后AI观察病人数据,FLOOR多一些机器人帮手,护士能多管几个病人? 某些医院已经开始用机器人哦。那种能开处方的护士2026年需要博士学位了,以前master就可以。 另外现在还有BSN to M.S. in Artificial Intelligence Degree 看看AI在healthcare的运用吧 High-tech hospital uses artificial intelligence in patient care (youtube.com) www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetKUFDDF4A AI In NURSING!? POWER UP📈🔥 - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuKHNjYOFxw Robot 'nurse' helps alleviate burnout among real nurses around the country - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQlfiN6e-Y
With the future of the hospital in mind, Memorial Hospital of Sweetwater County (MHSC) is moving forward with the purchase of a daVinci XI robot for around $2.5 million. Instead of two surgeon’s hands, there are six on the robot that can use small tools to access various points on the body during a surgery, Marshall explained. The robot also has a 360 camera available for the surgeon see everything needed during the surgery. The procedures the hospital expects to use with the daVinci for include inguinal hernia, ventral hernia, cholecystectomy, and colon resections, Marshall said.  Sweetwater Memorial to Purchase $2.5 Million daVinci Robot - SweetwaterNOW www.sweetwaternow.com/sweetwater-memorial-to-purchase-2-5-million-davinci-robot/、 Columbia Nursing’s Topaz explains why nurses need to understand AI, and how AI tools can help—and hurt—patient care. www.nursing.columbia.edu/news/q-artificial-intelligence-and-nursing 机器人Able to work 22-hour shifts without needing a break, she performs nonclinical tasks that often take nurses away from providing direct patient care — everything from delivering lab samples and medications to retrieving supplies and distributing personal protective equipment. A Dutch medical robotics company, Vitestro, recently announced results of clinical studies of its autonomous blood-drawing robot that already has performed 1,500 automated blood draws on more than 1,000 patients. Collaborative Robot Aims to Ease Stress on Nurses | AHA www.aha.org/aha-center-health-innovation-market-scan/2022-06-14-collaborative-robot-aims-ease-stress-nurses


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yangsjun
没啥影响吧, 没看到湾区一月房价新高吗?
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mayce
今天看小红书上有人留言说他家根本没有work and life balance,因为没有work,一周工作俩小时,lol
吃鸡蛋
回复 24楼nicecool的帖子
Ai 先把马公扫一遍再说, lol
吃鸡蛋
回复 34楼hellohey的帖子
你根本不知道da Vinci 是怎么操作的, 用的人一点也没变少
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hellohey
很多事以后很难说的。。。
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hellohey
科技让健康领域在未来10-20年会有很大变化的,不知道为啥老引用错。
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hellohey
回复 34楼hellohey的帖子
你根本不知道da Vinci 是怎么操作的, 用的人一点也没变少
吃鸡蛋 发表于 2024-02-14 21:20

知道啊,只是以后很多事很难说的啊,机器人配个最强大脑AI做一些目前某些手术医生需要穿防护服或者铅衣防辐射的手术也可能的啊。就是不知道要多少年了。。。外加现在某些老医生不会做机器人手术,原来苦练技术出血量少,速度快的手术,目前有些年轻医生会机器人手术,出血量也少,刀口小,当天就出院了。当然目前还有很多手术达芬奇做不了。 现在某些州一个麻醉医可以同时看四个CRNA做手术了,AI帮助不少吧? How is artificial intelligence used in anesthesiology? Research into AI''''s clinical applications and current limitations in anesthesiology practice suggests that these tools may demonstrate utility in various areas, including depth of anesthesia monitoring, control of anesthesia, event and risk prediction, ultrasound guidance, pain management, and operating room logistics. healthitanalytics.com/features/exploring-the-role-of-artificial-intelligence-in-anesthesiology#:~:text=Research%20into%20AI%27s%20clinical%20applications,management%2C%20and%20operating%20room%20logistics. Exploring the Role of Artificial Intelligence in Anesthesiology (healthitanalytics.com)这个是2023年写的 Can anesthesiology be automated? 这是2017年写的 Despite these difficulties, though, several metaanalyses have shown that automated systems can be more effective than a human in attaining tight control within a specified range of target variables and can also result in lower doses of delivered anesthetic with reduced recovery time. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5903534/#:~:text=Despite%20these%20difficulties%2C%20though%2C%20several,anesthetic%20with%20reduced%20recovery%20time.
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vsfan
大概率都是销售 行政
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shjzxz
这是湾区排名第一的养老大厂吧?也不能养老了?那以后湾区还有哪家可以养老了?ibm和oracle还挺得住么?
multiplelife 发表于 2024-02-14 17:16

思科每年都裁吧,只是之前裁得少,大多数人躺平养老,这次其实5%也比不上其他几家20%的裁呀
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minqidev
,他们家之前还假惺惺的去普渡招人,我就猜他们会裁人。
每次都招一批新人,一年不到,又都裁了,感觉都是常规操作了。给人一种不断精简的错觉,其实就是把一些新招的人,挑几个厉害,然后全裁了
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sunny988
才裁这么点人,对Cisco 来说只是九牛一毛
墨染云烟
Oracle早就擂过好几轮了,各个部门分开搞的。Larry大叔这点儿手腕还是有的。
WernerCA 发表于 2024-02-14 19:13

Larry早就是爷爷辈了。
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CaliforniaSun
cisco不是每年都裁5%吗?然后一边裁一边招
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chickenrib
我觉得他们家裁20%一点问题没有。
retiep 发表于 2024-02-14 16:53

不,应该说他家裁一般都是少的。见过不少 Cisco 的人,基本都是没事干。不是人不好,这公司烙印多,混吃等死的多。
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meftw
当年不是都说这公司很多人边上班边做房产经纪吗,中午吃饭时间都能带客户去看房。裁一半都不多吧
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Geofan
Cisco Director 一年好像总包裹40 万左右。算是较低的
公用马甲40 发表于 2024-02-14 20:25

是的,就是别家两年经验的L5
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Geofan
护士也难说啊,也许以后AI观察病人数据,FLOOR多一些机器人帮手,护士能多管几个病人? 某些医院已经开始用机器人哦。那种能开处方的护士2026年需要博士学位了,以前master就可以。 另外现在还有BSN to M.S. in Artificial Intelligence Degree 看看AI在healthcare的运用吧 High-tech hospital uses artificial intelligence in patient care (youtube.com) www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetKUFDDF4A AI In NURSING!? POWER UP📈🔥 - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuKHNjYOFxw Robot 'nurse' helps alleviate burnout among real nurses around the country - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQlfiN6e-Y
With the future of the hospital in mind, Memorial Hospital of Sweetwater County (MHSC) is moving forward with the purchase of a daVinci XI robot for around $2.5 million. Instead of two surgeon’s hands, there are six on the robot that can use small tools to access various points on the body during a surgery, Marshall explained. The robot also has a 360 camera available for the surgeon see everything needed during the surgery. The procedures the hospital expects to use with the daVinci for include inguinal hernia, ventral hernia, cholecystectomy, and colon resections, Marshall said.  Sweetwater Memorial to Purchase $2.5 Million daVinci Robot - SweetwaterNOW www.sweetwaternow.com/sweetwater-memorial-to-purchase-2-5-million-davinci-robot/、 Columbia Nursing’s Topaz explains why nurses need to understand AI, and how AI tools can help—and hurt—patient care. www.nursing.columbia.edu/news/q-artificial-intelligence-and-nursing 机器人Able to work 22-hour shifts without needing a break, she performs nonclinical tasks that often take nurses away from providing direct patient care — everything from delivering lab samples and medications to retrieving supplies and distributing personal protective equipment. A Dutch medical robotics company, Vitestro, recently announced results of clinical studies of its autonomous blood-drawing robot that already has performed 1,500 automated blood draws on more than 1,000 patients. Collaborative Robot Aims to Ease Stress on Nurses | AHA www.aha.org/aha-center-health-innovation-market-scan/2022-06-14-collaborative-robot-aims-ease-stress-nurses
hellohey 发表于 2024-02-14 20:44

Ai横扫普通医生没问题,不过家庭医生本来也就没什么活路了


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YYFLy
大厂裁员这么久了,还不认识任何一个人受到影响,也许认识人太少,感觉有点雷声大雨点小
金生水起 发表于 2024-02-14 18:59

真的假的,我认识的一堆被裁的
公用马甲36

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八戒偏不戒
大厂裁员这么久了,还不认识任何一个人受到影响,也许认识人太少,感觉有点雷声大雨点小
金生水起 发表于 2024-02-14 18:59

估计你不在圈里面。身边被裁的人不要太多,大到senior manager,L7,小到刚进公司才一两年的小伙。虽然都陆陆续续上了岸,但是受影响的人真不少。
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zx1269
我今天在linked in上看到了印度人开的公司的广告,就是专门在印度给做startup的。。。
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frankingcn2
我觉得他们家裁20%一点问题没有。
retiep 发表于 2024-02-14 16:53

真是,他家的水平有的真是不在线🤣