This is the only source I found regarding the J10c win in recent Pakistan/Quatar joint exercise: http://www.laitimes.com/en/article/6egp8_6ut00.html akistan Air Force J-10CE fighters shined in the joint exercise, beating Qatar's Typhoon fighter jets 9-0 Recently, a splendid air confrontation exercise between the Pakistan Air Force and the Qatar Air Force came to an end, and the results were remarkable. In this high-intensity simulated battle, the J-10CE fighter of the Pakistan Air Force achieved a 9-0 victory over the Typhoon fighter of the Qatar Air Force with an overwhelming advantage, including a brilliant record of 4 to 0 in over-the-horizon air combat and 5 to 0 in close combat, showing the superb flying skills of Pakistani pilots and the excellent performance of J-10CE fighters. The exercise was not only a simple technical competition, but also a comprehensive demonstration of the tactical level and operational skills of the two air forces. As an advanced multi-role fighter developed by China, the J-10CE has been fully verified in the exercise with its excellent maneuverability, powerful firepower and advanced avionics system. The Typhoon fighter, as a classic fighter made in Europe, although it has a good reputation around the world, the strength it played in this duel is a big surprise. This result is undoubtedly a wake-up call for the military aviation industry in Europe. Once regarded as a strong competitor in the high-end fighter market, Europe's Typhoon fighter seems to be a little powerless in the face of the new generation of fighters from countries such as China and the United States. With the increasing maturity of fifth-generation fighter technology, it seems that the future air combat power is gradually becoming a wrestling game between China and the United States. The results of this exercise also once again demonstrate the complexity and diversity of modern air combat. In terms of stealth technology, electronic warfare capabilities, and information-based command and control, China and the United States and other countries have already taken the lead in the world. For other countries, to remain competitive in the skies of the future, they must constantly update their equipment, improve the training of pilots, and strengthen tactical innovation. The victory of the Pakistan Air Force in this joint exercise not only won honor for the J-10CE fighter, but also provided a valuable reference for other countries, that is, in the rapidly changing environment of modern warfare, continuous technological upgrading and tactical innovation are the key to maintaining military superiority.
This is the only source I found regarding the J10c win in recent Pakistan/Quatar joint exercise: http://www.laitimes.com/en/article/6egp8_6ut00.html akistan Air Force J-10CE fighters shined in the joint exercise, beating Qatar's Typhoon fighter jets 9-0 Recently, a splendid air confrontation exercise between the Pakistan Air Force and the Qatar Air Force came to an end, and the results were remarkable. In this high-intensity simulated battle, the J-10CE fighter of the Pakistan Air Force achieved a 9-0 victory over the Typhoon fighter of the Qatar Air Force with an overwhelming advantage, including a brilliant record of 4 to 0 in over-the-horizon air combat and 5 to 0 in close combat, showing the superb flying skills of Pakistani pilots and the excellent performance of J-10CE fighters. The exercise was not only a simple technical competition, but also a comprehensive demonstration of the tactical level and operational skills of the two air forces. As an advanced multi-role fighter developed by China, the J-10CE has been fully verified in the exercise with its excellent maneuverability, powerful firepower and advanced avionics system. The Typhoon fighter, as a classic fighter made in Europe, although it has a good reputation around the world, the strength it played in this duel is a big surprise. This result is undoubtedly a wake-up call for the military aviation industry in Europe. Once regarded as a strong competitor in the high-end fighter market, Europe's Typhoon fighter seems to be a little powerless in the face of the new generation of fighters from countries such as China and the United States. With the increasing maturity of fifth-generation fighter technology, it seems that the future air combat power is gradually becoming a wrestling game between China and the United States. The results of this exercise also once again demonstrate the complexity and diversity of modern air combat. In terms of stealth technology, electronic warfare capabilities, and information-based command and control, China and the United States and other countries have already taken the lead in the world. For other countries, to remain competitive in the skies of the future, they must constantly update their equipment, improve the training of pilots, and strengthen tactical innovation. The victory of the Pakistan Air Force in this joint exercise not only won honor for the J-10CE fighter, but also provided a valuable reference for other countries, that is, in the rapidly changing environment of modern warfare, continuous technological upgrading and tactical innovation are the key to maintaining military superiority.
在航空圈里有颜值即战斗力的说法， 大家能分得清哪个是歼10，哪个是台风吗？
没想到，中国的飞机也有被抄袭的一天
在前一段的卡塔尔军事演习中， 巴基斯坦飞行 9:0 台风， 6:2 阵风， 当然巴基斯坦飞行员技术高超是重点，但歼10看来进步很大啊。不过最憋屈的要数印度了、估计这几十年空军方面都会落后巴基斯坦
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/7z_ah5abh1c
是比超视距还是狗斗啊 这两个差别太大了
还有，这是 J10-CE吧，外贸版的J10-C，导弹射程阉割过的。
超视距5:0， 狗斗4:0 因为这次军演，巴基斯坦追加了中国歼35的订单，歼35是中国的下一代替代歼10的飞机
卡塔尔的一些飞行员也是巴基斯坦人，所以这次是非常少有的检验歼10的机会
居然听懂了他的发音？别告诉他说的不是英语！
赞，5000万的飞机赢了两亿的
说的是英语？我只听懂里面的一些个别单词
巴基斯坦官方说了。可能还是巴基斯坦的飞行员厉害
起码说明，目前的印度空军拿巴基斯坦没办法
J20本来就是是针对F22指标设计的，比F22晚了这么多年超越是正常的
俄罗斯的很多东西指标也很惊人，一打仗什么笑话都出来了。所以说嘴仗最没有用，还是战场上见。
比如梅卡瓦，以色列国防军
一上阵全是笑话。被连吉普车都没有的哈马斯抵抗军反复羞辱
这种谣言有点过于搞笑
出口装备从来都是内部竞标失败的型号。刚交付巴基斯坦的054a护卫舰，也是自己有了054b才开始交货
Google了一下，出口巴基斯坦的054AP升级了雷达，网上说中国装备的054A和其他舰艇配合，雷达没有那么重要，而巴基斯坦是单舰作战，所以把雷达升级了一下出口。
打个飞机算什么。。。
的确，巴基斯坦的J10CE很可能比空军自用的好。因为J10C本身就是中国第三档的战机。这个逻辑和卖给巴基斯坦的护卫舰一样，也是中国第三档的军舰。
卡塔尔的台风很多是英国人在飞，这种难得机会，没道理不让他们飞。
阵风的6：2是和枭龙2打出来的。
一般来说，歼10CE比枭龙3强，枭龙3比枭龙2强。事实上TG现役的任何一款国产战斗机都比枭龙2强。台风比阵风强。另外，根据去年印度和之盾军演的结果，枭龙3击败了高配F15和高配F16。TG在四代机做到了同代秒杀，很让人吃惊。
主要是氮化镓的有源阵相雷达和DSI进气口，确实在很多细节属于降维打击。
虽然台风的推力比歼10强，但是传统进气口就是没有DSI强，而DSI必须超大型计算机和超大风洞才能做出来，所以目前只有中美能够掌握
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/l1K9wqV9Sxg 巴基斯坦飞行员比较老辣，歼10ce 的电子战系统发达，起了一定作用
说得有道理。但歼20比F22大，但还比F22轻，说明中国的材料工程，飞机设计组装已取得巨大进步。
歼10如果有这么好的话，还是很鼓舞人心的！
看来兔子现在不怕跟美帝掀桌子自己觉得有点底气的。
看这个评论还是很振奋人心的！ 国产战斗机一直卖不出去，我一直以为是不够好。。。没想到。。。难怪当时巴基斯坦受到歼10时国防部长还是总统特别高兴，发表演讲说将来歼31也会来。。。
尼玛吹上天的德国豹式美国战车一上场不也是笑话，挨不了几千块钱的无人机一撞
俄罗斯的电子工业比中国落后太多了
这就是俄罗斯的武装直升机攻击时,
居然开着手机来进行定位.
不过这也是因为俄罗斯的国力下降,导致 卫星数量不够.
全球卫星最多的就是美国和中国大陆
卖战机是政治生意特殊商品，不是价廉物美对方就要买。
如果买方有钱可以换西方电子设备，但巴基斯坦银子紧就不讲究了。 像中国出口阿尔及利亚的C28A护卫舰没有用国产搜索雷达，换装瑞典法国雷达。去年巴基斯坦与美国签署旧版F16电子升级，令印度极为不爽。 巴基斯坦在中美之间走钢丝，以一方交易压对方出宝贝。几年前巴基斯坦恢复从瑞典进口预警机。之前有从中国进口预警机，压美国放行E-2C。 美国拒绝， 但同意给巴基斯坦老旧F16做雷达电子战升级。上次巴基斯坦升级过的F16打掉了一架印度米格21，后面跟着的苏30不敢接敌。
抖音上有一个俄罗斯航空专家做了一个回忆录，在这个回忆录里详细说了中俄航空合作的恩恩怨怨，他自己也承认俄罗斯的航电技术落后于中国很多，而且埋怨中国人的技术进步太大，总是逆向仿制，不重视知识产权，买军机就是买了回来仿制（尽可能压低第一批订货最小订单数目），到了21世纪中国人连俄罗斯人的航空业都看不起了，那个视频非常有意思 视频号 人畜无害小托比， 南理工毕业的军工从业者，估计懂些俄语，而且详细说过中美之间航空的合作，巴基斯坦之间的合作等等，内幕还是挺多的
这个没办法吧，技术特点上无人机对装甲车辆就是压制的
昨天还是今天拜登发表了突发讲话， 美国约旦基地遭到无人机袭击，目前已经3人阵亡，34重伤，还有几十人严重脑损伤（不知道是被吓到了，还是脑震荡）
这还是美军的军事基地，在无人机面前，以前很多看似安全的武器都不安全了
而且一个新机型，人巴基斯坦的飞行员就能把性能发挥得这么好，真难得。也是难得。至少在面对烙印时，心不虚。。。
巴基斯坦的飞行员历来都好厉害的。 可以说是巴基斯坦的飞行员改变了大陆的空战理念
就是今天，到处在遇袭，基本都是自杀式无人机。 以前还不承认
也难怪中国会卖给巴基斯坦战斗机，不仅有枭龙，歼10, 现在还有歼35。。。互惠互利！ 这样印度空军怎么和巴基斯坦拼。来自八国联军的各种飞机，然后还贵。自己产的，老往地上掉。。。
是今天阿，我看到国内的抖音是说28日，我不太确定是不是时差的原因造成了日期不一样 看视频，拜登说，我提议现在向阵亡的3名美军士兵默哀。
我后来看来更多消息才发现非常蹊跷。美国的五角大楼宣布是在约旦被袭击的。 然后约旦的军方马上辟谣，说约旦没有空军基地被袭击。
原来，民主党玩了个小花招。因为这些被袭击的美军，是驻扎在叙利亚的美军，他们来自约旦空军基地。 因为新闻光说是叙利亚美军袭击，会显得，在叙利亚被袭击，听起来好奇怪，没事跑叙利亚干什么？
消息很可靠.
这是巴基斯坦官方的帐号: J-10C beat Euro Fighter Typhoon 9 times in War Games
里面有巴军方的人回复
参与的也有土耳其F16飞行员，看傻了。所以，土耳其后来问中国能不能买歼10C或者枭龙3。 然后，土耳其神奇的被美国军事制裁了5年后，前两天收到通知，可以买最新的F16了，也属于因祸得福。
这种军演，是穆斯林世界，检验各自设备的一个舞台，所以大家都会把最好的武器来比试比试，方便以后买。
土耳其的豹二，沙特的M1Abrams, 一样被库尔德人和也门的泥腿子兵拿俄制火箭弹开了瓢。尼玛一堆傻缺吹亲爹一样吹要豹二在乌东表现一番，结果还不是一堆废铁。
历次印巴战争，巴空军对印军都是有很强优势，不过巴陆军不行，最后总是败北。
全是伊朗的无人机。当初N年前，伊朗人就干扰下一架美国全球鹰。波斯人脑子就是比阿拉伯人聪明不少
说明 巴基斯坦飞行员技术好,
不过也从侧面说明,只要飞行员好, J-10CE完全可以辗压法国阵风战斗机
武器买卖和政治因素挂钩太多，不是单纯的性价比。北约国家买中俄的武器都要脱层皮。
最后肯定不会买中国的，就是一个政治手段， 要么用来解除制裁，要么用来压价
也是因为这次歼10C表现后，所以美国才松口可以给巴基斯坦F16升级，因为迫于印度压力之前连门都没有。
所以武器买卖只能从盟友买最可靠，美国不提供零部件，巴基斯坦F16都难飞起来。巴有枭龙的生产线。
不懂武器，单从经济角度看，觉得GDP计算价值要做一些修正。
如果一件商品比另外一件更好， 那么计算GDP是否应该也要修正，至少好产品应该算高于比较产品。
This is the only source I found regarding the J10c win in recent Pakistan/Quatar joint exercise: http://www.laitimes.com/en/article/6egp8_6ut00.html akistan Air Force J-10CE fighters shined in the joint exercise, beating Qatar's Typhoon fighter jets 9-0 Recently, a splendid air confrontation exercise between the Pakistan Air Force and the Qatar Air Force came to an end, and the results were remarkable. In this high-intensity simulated battle, the J-10CE fighter of the Pakistan Air Force achieved a 9-0 victory over the Typhoon fighter of the Qatar Air Force with an overwhelming advantage, including a brilliant record of 4 to 0 in over-the-horizon air combat and 5 to 0 in close combat, showing the superb flying skills of Pakistani pilots and the excellent performance of J-10CE fighters. The exercise was not only a simple technical competition, but also a comprehensive demonstration of the tactical level and operational skills of the two air forces. As an advanced multi-role fighter developed by China, the J-10CE has been fully verified in the exercise with its excellent maneuverability, powerful firepower and advanced avionics system. The Typhoon fighter, as a classic fighter made in Europe, although it has a good reputation around the world, the strength it played in this duel is a big surprise. This result is undoubtedly a wake-up call for the military aviation industry in Europe. Once regarded as a strong competitor in the high-end fighter market, Europe's Typhoon fighter seems to be a little powerless in the face of the new generation of fighters from countries such as China and the United States. With the increasing maturity of fifth-generation fighter technology, it seems that the future air combat power is gradually becoming a wrestling game between China and the United States. The results of this exercise also once again demonstrate the complexity and diversity of modern air combat. In terms of stealth technology, electronic warfare capabilities, and information-based command and control, China and the United States and other countries have already taken the lead in the world. For other countries, to remain competitive in the skies of the future, they must constantly update their equipment, improve the training of pilots, and strengthen tactical innovation. The victory of the Pakistan Air Force in this joint exercise not only won honor for the J-10CE fighter, but also provided a valuable reference for other countries, that is, in the rapidly changing environment of modern warfare, continuous technological upgrading and tactical innovation are the key to maintaining military superiority.
不要纠结主流英文媒体了，你去搜telegram把，或者阿拉伯语媒体，连台湾媒体都搜到了。 有耐心的话，你都可以搜到参加这个比赛的飞行员骄傲的回复。那人一回，下面全部是其他巴基斯坦军人致敬的。
巴基斯坦国防部长的说法是，结果非常令人满意，反正是赢了，不好意思直接说多少比分。
当然希望这是真的，因为有很多关于这次演习的报道，但是只有这一篇报道了结果。希望能看到一天到晚抹黑中国武器的印度媒体的说法，那就真的实锤了：）
这个其实没什么，并不证明歼10比欧洲台风好，只是说起码是一个级别，飞行员多训练就行了。其实国内满足了。
要知道，几年前，中国苏27和泰国鹰狮比赛，好像是9：0还是多少。后来，派歼10就扳回来，说明，歼10的电子系统起码比俄国飞机好。