An Asian American veteran and Ohio township trustee who went viral when he unbuttoned his shirt to show his military scars said Thursday that anger and frustration over a rise in anti-Asian hate crimes prompted him to make the impassioned speech. "I really wasn''t prepared to make a speech," West Chester Township Board of Trustees chairman Lee Wong said on CNN. "I just needed to say something with all the threats and verbal threats and all the you know, jabs here and there. It was just too much to bear." He said he has noticed an uptick in racism against Asians in the past two years. Wong, 69, recalled the time someone approached him, while he was wearing an Army jacket and hat and holding an American flag, to tell him that he wasn''t American or a patriot. "The last couple of years, that was the worst I ever experienced," he said. "I just can''t believe it was so bold that came to my face to tell me that. ... That really hurt me deeply." At a March 23 board meeting, Wong said: "Don''t get me wrong. People love me in this community and I love them, too. But there are some ignorant people that would come up to me and say that I don''t look American enough or patriotic enough." Then he unbuttoned his shirt, revealing his scars. "Here''s my proof," he said during the meeting. "Now, is this patriot enough?" Trustee Chair Lee Wong speaks at a meeting in West Chester Township, Ohio, on March 23, 2021.West Chester Township / via Reuters "Before, I was fairly inhibited. People look at me strange, and then they question my loyalty to this country?" Wong continued during the unscripted moment. "The last I read the American Constitution, we the people, we are all the same. We are equal." "Prejudice is hate, and that hate can be changed. We are human. We need to be kinder, gentler, to one another." "For too long, I have put up with a lot of s--- in silence, excuse me the language," Wong said. "Too afraid to speak out, fearing more abuse and discrimination.
所以,华人在美国政坛和管理层发展不行固然有歧视或者其它外部原因,但主因还是自己太聪明,对小钱算得太清楚太在意的结果。
yes and yes...
要从政的人,当年就留在中国了,来美国的人,都是不想从政的,大部分都是贪图美国打工仔薪水高的。这一点,先天就不足了,再说后来的,也没啥意义了
在美国高管里日本人也不行,韩国人也不行,都是因为太聪明?这俩国家是盟国,没有安全问题,没有意识形态问题,一代二代也都不少,并且母国公司一堆有名的。
什么是因什么是果。这个社会里东亚裔阻力上升途径阻力大,尤其是政经商。趋利避害人之本性,难怪集中在相对merit-based 的STEM+医的行业。
题目有点道理 但是帖子内容不能证明题目结论 但有一点是对的,东亚裔升不上去的一个小原因 就是太卷,给下属和周边的人太多压力 我原来公司有个亚裔同事水平不错,资历也够,但是太卷,太斤斤计较 几个同事私下里就说,万一我们的头走了,千万不要提拔他 否则大家日子都不好过
美国是一个歧视最少的国家,政治体系透明。在这里还搞不好,只能怪自己
我感觉ABC好很多。第一代太计较了,没法发展
美国这地方只要不懒基本都能有个不错的生活,只是挣钱多少的问题,根本不会有生存问题。走稳妥的路的思维其实就是小农思想,既然自己选择了这条路就要接受做小农的结果,而不是去指责社会不给自己做地主的机会。
这里面有两个客观事实, 1)相比而言,美国的确算台面上反歧视做的不错的国家,我觉得比中国要好 2)美国即使做得比中国好,但还是有歧视,你知道问题是什么吗?问题是,在中国我们歧视其他部分族裔的,但在美国我们被其他族裔歧视。在中国我们是占统治地位的主体民族,在美国我们是处处被针对的少数民族
大家指责的是美国社会现在的一切管理以MBA为首的能说会道的领导船为主,外行指导内行,而不是技术为导向。这种风气长久下来对社会发展也不利,能靠轻轻松松耍嘴皮子赚钱并且比做技术赚的多,谁愿意吭哧吭哧地学stem,并且他们未必学的下来。
韩裔日裔的数量比华裔少多了。同是华裔,台湾来的无论在政坛上还是公司管理层方面的发展就比大陆的好挺多。
Too smart but not wise.
哪个国家都差不多,在中国也如此,混得好的都是嘴皮子好的。说实话美国华人这种觉得技术好就该提拔的思维即使回国也爬不上去。
可不是,比如那谁,当年要是跟着前妻一起去了英国,现在就是个老婆孩子热炕头的老留罢了。
那个东西不是嘴皮子,比如要能组织,要会用人,要能换位思考,摆平各方,还要让人心悦诚服的摆平。这里面是需要wisdom,either很深厚的文化功底,或者非常超凡的人格。不是那么容易的
我觉得一般老中挺差的。ABC不是那么差,但是真没印度人厉害
日韩加起来三个多米,华人各种背景加起来五个多米,没有本质区别。而且华人集中在这二三十年来的。
即使是台湾人,高管集中的也还是在硬件等行业。traditional 大公司,非founder, 有几个台湾,日,韩CEO?
说到底就是book smart和street smart,华人孩子都book smart了,即使有street smart的潜力有人也不屑一用,并且大部分孩子有也不多,看看父母从小都怎么培养的便知,父母就是独生子女,孩子更是除了家人连个表亲都没有,成长环境单一,只注重学习,在加上职场上的隐形歧视,慢慢的就走上技术这条easy的路了。
华人的理想,卷赢同胞,晒大包裹找优越感,当华人中的人上人
印度人的理想,卷赢其他族裔,把一个个公司变成小新德里
犹太人的理想,收割其他族裔,控制各行命脉,让全世界都当天选民族的韭菜
你在美国见到的台湾移民,90%以上都是49年才去台湾的大陆/外省人。土生土长的普通台湾人,到大陆也没几个就混成上层的。
你没有根基就要么像赵小兰一样找个地位高的白男,要么像那个蠢货波士顿市长吴弥,跟一个带你飞的民主党领袖,前提也得是跟他们混一个圈子。
你说的两个例子都是女人,中国男人没这条路可以走
你嘴真大,还百分之百。
胡说,板上大妈都是为了自由民主而来的美国,而不是为了几个钱(笑
美国总统除了搞民粹的川普,全是奴隶主后代,包括奥巴马。
欧洲白人移民也不好使。
两种方式对中国男人同样有效,当然得人家支持你才会有门票。
你们男人不争气还怪女人了?打也打不过别的race。 在家带娃干家务也不如别的race。普遍颜值身高也不如别人。你们能找到老婆就烧高香了。
那么台湾来的是不是华人呢?是不是不聪明呢?
所以你还是觉得美华是因为聪明而没法在政界有所成就?
真聪明怎么可能没成绩。 大部分都是眼高手低,自我意识太强。简称蠢。
看问题看本质,谁家的娃跑到你家坐在上座端坐着挑好吃的吃,管他是什么才能性格品德,你会任他坐吃吗?
本质就是:肤色不同,其心必异;人类无法独活(分工太细,自己一人/一家做不过来)必须和人组队,那么和谁组队?显然是“自己人”;谁是自己人?显然是看着几乎一模一样的人,其他人都是外人。
答案就是这么简单动物性:抢资源、活得更好。和自己人组队抢其他队的,或者自己队开发资源阻止其他人来抢。经济下行期,就是去掉文明伪装爆出动物性本质的爆发期。
整一堆高大上没用的概念和词,模糊自己的双眼,光忙着在词汇和概念里兜圈子尽量保持有逻辑看上去聪明别被人笑话了,却迷失看不到本质了。真是南辕北辙。
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An Asian American veteran and Ohio township trustee who went viral when he unbuttoned his shirt to show his military scars said Thursday that anger and frustration over a rise in anti-Asian hate crimes prompted him to make the impassioned speech. "I really wasn''t prepared to make a speech," West Chester Township Board of Trustees chairman Lee Wong said on CNN. "I just needed to say something with all the threats and verbal threats and all the you know, jabs here and there. It was just too much to bear." He said he has noticed an uptick in racism against Asians in the past two years. Wong, 69, recalled the time someone approached him, while he was wearing an Army jacket and hat and holding an American flag, to tell him that he wasn''t American or a patriot. "The last couple of years, that was the worst I ever experienced," he said. "I just can''t believe it was so bold that came to my face to tell me that. ... That really hurt me deeply." At a March 23 board meeting, Wong said: "Don''t get me wrong. People love me in this community and I love them, too. But there are some ignorant people that would come up to me and say that I don''t look American enough or patriotic enough." Then he unbuttoned his shirt, revealing his scars. "Here''s my proof," he said during the meeting. "Now, is this patriot enough?"
Trustee Chair Lee Wong speaks at a meeting in West Chester Township, Ohio, on March 23, 2021.West Chester Township / via Reuters "Before, I was fairly inhibited. People look at me strange, and then they question my loyalty to this country?" Wong continued during the unscripted moment. "The last I read the American Constitution, we the people, we are all the same. We are equal." "Prejudice is hate, and that hate can be changed. We are human. We need to be kinder, gentler, to one another." "For too long, I have put up with a lot of s--- in silence, excuse me the language," Wong said. "Too afraid to speak out, fearing more abuse and discrimination.
犹太人和印度人都像寄生虫,只能靠寄生在别的种族才能混得风生水起。
中国有啥种族歧视?
歧视的是地域,性别,年龄,权势而已。
如果你是一线城市出生的家里有点背景的年轻男生,sure, the world is your oyster.
如果你是小地方出来无权无势的大龄女生,路边人的吐沫星子都能淹死你。
所以为啥回国的男生多女生少?趋利而已,人都不傻。
白人和黑人,烙印相貌差别都不小。老中和老墨长得像,但老中还歧视老墨。
同意
我有个华人老板明明传统躺平公司 竟然要向乙方战略咨询看齐 把白男属下都累出病
不觉得,华人最大的问题是找其他亚裔,包括其他华人的问题,而不是自己的问题。只在乎自己的眼前利益。😄
那你有没有想过,你老板为什么卷?还不是因为跟他同一个级别的人里,他需要好几倍的优秀才有可能竞争一样的资源?想出几倍的成绩,手下的人要是跟别人的手下一样躺平,可能吗?很多人说亚裔女boss怎样怎样,但是没有站在人家的位置考虑过,她们的生存压力就是比白男boss大很多很多。
你这也属于bias的统计啊。
日本人,韩国人,中国人,喜欢搞政治的也就不会出国,在自己国家搞了。出国的,大部分我们看得到的都是技术移民。那么技术移民的孩子大部分也走技术这条路,这叫耳濡目染,或者家庭传承。
不说别的,搞landscaping的为什么老墨特别多?难道亚裔被歧视了?不是,是本身亚裔搞landscaping的家庭就少,大人的圈子里搞这个的也少,孩子也很少会走这条路。
亚裔二代,三代当然也有从政的。从政不单单指国会,议会,总统,各个州,各个county都有许多从政机会,比如加州,亚裔从政的就很多,texas, florida,墨裔从政的就多。
这都是根据家庭,个人兴趣爱好,以及当地的选民结构决定的。
要说管理层,如果亚裔不满意公司升职不好,为什么不出来创业呢?如果非得按人种看创业,你认为亚裔创业的比例高吗?华人的创业比例高吗?难道市场也在欺负亚裔?
很多事情不看原因,只看结果,得出的结论是不符合实际的。
Andrew Yang确实被排挤,是被主党establishment排挤。因为他们要建制派上去。不仅Andrew Yang被排挤,Burnie也被拉下来了。这叫政治斗争。跟种族关系不大。
你说川普2016有没有被排挤。也被排挤了。被建制派批评,唱衰,不给钱,各种阻碍。
今年主党除了拜登的候选人有没有被排挤?Kenney脱离主党准备以独立候选人参选。为什么?因为被严重排挤,florida主党根本都不准备把其他候选人的名字印在选票上,让选民只能选拜登。这是什么?是政治斗争。
中国政坛有没有排挤?当然有。秦刚怎么消失的?
儒家文化不是用来斗争的。儒家文化堕落了才会被用来搞斗争。中国就是在各种内斗中堕落的。所谓厚黑学,根本就是社会的毒药,却在唐以后被越来越多读书人尊崇。所以中国才在唐以后,越来越烂。