You can collect spousal benefits and wait until 70 to claim your retirement benefit if both of the following are true: You were born before Jan. 2, 1954. Your spouse is collecting his or her own Social Security retirement benefit.
This makes you eligible to file a “restricted application,” which allows you to collect a spousal benefit while putting off claiming your retirement benefit so it can grow. To do so, you should state in the remarks section of the application form that you wish to exclude your retirement benefit from the scope of your Social Security claim.
Under a law Congress passed in 2015, people born after Jan. 1, 1954, cannot file a restricted application. They are covered by what Social Security calls “deemed filing": When they claim retirement benefits, they are also deemed to be claiming any spousal benefits they are entitled to, except under narrow circumstances. esprit88 发表于 2023-12-14 16:46
查了下,可以的,只要你先拿的时候,配偶还没claim. 他已经claim了就不行。 If your spouse is not receiving any retirement benefits yet, then you could technically take your regular Social Security benefit as early as age 62. When your spouse files for their benefit later you could switch to spousal benefits. That could potentially increase the total amount of benefits you receive as a couple if they’re waiting until age 70 to start taking benefits. What if your spouse is already receiving their Social Security benefits? In that situation, the deemed filing rule applies. That rule dictates that when someone applies for their regular retirement benefit, they’re also approved for spousal benefits if they’re entitled to receive them. So again, you’d get the higher amount of the two.
You can collect spousal benefits and wait until 70 to claim your retirement benefit if both of the following are true: You were born before Jan. 2, 1954. Your spouse is collecting his or her own Social Security retirement benefit.
This makes you eligible to file a “restricted application,” which allows you to collect a spousal benefit while putting off claiming your retirement benefit so it can grow. To do so, you should state in the remarks section of the application form that you wish to exclude your retirement benefit from the scope of your Social Security claim.
Under a law Congress passed in 2015, people born after Jan. 1, 1954, cannot file a restricted application. They are covered by what Social Security calls “deemed filing": When they claim retirement benefits, they are also deemed to be claiming any spousal benefits they are entitled to, except under narrow circumstances.
补充一下,我之前发帖的时候认为自由职业50退休,查了一下应该不对,自由职业应该55。
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你说的好像对的,不让拿124%的一半:(
那配偶67就可以开始拿了,不用等70了,感觉不合算。要不要switch也就不一定了。高收入的50% 不一定比低收入那个的70%高。
查了下,可以的,只要你先拿的时候,配偶还没claim. 他已经claim了就不行。
If your spouse is not receiving any retirement benefits yet, then you could technically take your regular Social Security benefit as early as age 62. When your spouse files for their benefit later you could switch to spousal benefits. That could potentially increase the total amount of benefits you receive as a couple if they’re waiting until age 70 to start taking benefits.
What if your spouse is already receiving their Social Security benefits? In that situation, the deemed filing rule applies. That rule dictates that when someone applies for their regular retirement benefit, they’re also approved for spousal benefits if they’re entitled to receive them. So again, you’d get the higher amount of the two.
这个是说收入低的70%ssn (62岁拿70%)会比高的那个120%(70s岁那120%)的一半要少才可行吧
配偶拿一半也只能拿正常67的金额一半,不让拿70岁金额的一半。
好像只有1954年以前出生的才可以,之后出生的就不行了
You can collect spousal benefits and wait until 70 to claim your retirement benefit if both of the following are true: You were born before Jan. 2, 1954. Your spouse is collecting his or her own Social Security retirement benefit.
This makes you eligible to file a “restricted application,” which allows you to collect a spousal benefit while putting off claiming your retirement benefit so it can grow. To do so, you should state in the remarks section of the application form that you wish to exclude your retirement benefit from the scope of your Social Security claim.
Under a law Congress passed in 2015, people born after Jan. 1, 1954, cannot file a restricted application. They are covered by what Social Security calls “deemed filing": When they claim retirement benefits, they are also deemed to be claiming any spousal benefits they are entitled to, except under narrow circumstances.
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我听朋友说自己交的那种就是50岁退休,我可以转成单位交到55,现在觉得50很好
交满15年,干部55退休,自己交的不属于干部,应该50。赶着50拿也是怕延退
不知道其他地方,反正上海的话自己交的拿的晚,都自由了,跟身份没关系。而且如果一直是最低交的话,拿不到多少的,主要好处是有个医保吧
我家那里,自己交的,女55,自己交就是自由职业,只有有单位,是工人编制,可以50拿,据说一般大学毕业就都是干部,很少能50拿
62 拿,然后找个par time 工作,一周干2-3 天的这种如何?稅是不是少点?
如果不工作了,早拿社保没毛病,如还有工作收入,早拿社保就值得商榷。
我看到的是养老保险要交15年,医保要交20年,自由职业目前女性55退休,公司交50岁 但应该过几年会延长退休年龄吧,50岁真的很早,我很羡慕
这个可行吗?好像只能选一个。而且作为配偶只能拿老公的一半,应该比自己的少
没记错的话,没到full retirement age 提前拿,还继续工作的收入超过了当年最低收入限制,每赚$2,社安金会减少$1,也就是说,part time 收入要少于当年的最低收入限制才不会被扣。
这也太少了吧,正规大学毕业,55退休应该可以拿七千以上吧。
不能转的,一旦拿了, 就是永远。
不可能的,年纪越大,精力有限,脑子越来越不好使, 自己不主动退的话,单位也会委婉地让你退。
美国很多50+年龄的人工作的主要原因就是为了65岁以前的医疗保险,属实
能具体举个例子怎么拿吗?family社保是什么情况?
这估计都是50退的吧。可能之前都是在工资不高的外企民企干的。
老了钱越少越好,好多保险什么的都是看收入,不看财富的,哼哧地拿多钱,最后还是被骗走了。
不是的,自己交要55拿。我也在国内交着,直接问社保局的,如果可以50拿,绝对50啊
她几乎工作到最后两年,从年轻到老拍了无数戏,也是劳碌命,没享啥福,钱应该早就够花了,想不穿
做明星的,主要还是喜欢那个关注度吧。能像郑伊健蒙嘉慧那样放的下的太少了
都50就退了,上海就五千出头,研究生毕业也一样的。
外企,50退休,再返聘
这个已经不行了,早就不给选了
年头刚刚在上海街道办事处问的自己交社保的,50岁前交满15年的,并且在1993年前开始工作的可以在50岁退休。
爸妈不要过来, 我也只能自己继续交社保, 以防回国照顾父母的时候需要用。
真别说, 自己身边几个同学又得癌的。 老公几个同学得癌的走的很快,也都50岁左右
美国这套制度 真的是退休的时候就是身体已经干不动的时候了 一辈子就是给资本家卖命 太无耻了
不用一定是单位交满15年,自己补交满15年,不是干部,就可以在50岁生日前一个月去申请。这样生日一到,就可以领到钱了。
看来国内政策在不同的地方政策不一样啊。我知道的一个人50岁就领了。
世事难料,我决定明天退休! :-)
有可能,请问你知道的例子是哪里的?我说的是上海这边的情况
周海媚的case和钱没有关系吧,她还在乎社保不社保的?如果非说有,我就是觉得她挣那么多钱也没用,连个一儿半女也没,财产能留给谁?侄子侄女吗?要是像我们这些独生子女,连个亲侄子也没,如果丁克财产估计都得给八杆子打不着的表兄弟子女了。不知那些丁克的不婚的觉得自己亏吗?
我也准备六十二岁拿。我家父亲八十不到母亲还在但身体不太健康。我上了五十大退步。估计没有意外七八十岁吧。
另外我喜欢早一点拿可以有更多的钱投资也防止RMD的问题。我准备401k 也是一到就开始拿。早拿平均收入,减少税收,增加收益。当然前提是有自控力不胡乱花钱。
当然我也准备401k可以拿了立马退休。老公也不许工作。
Medicare 67岁了
什么? MEDICARE要67岁才有了?
哪儿有这么多,不知道上海,我家也是大城市,一般不是体制内的,退休也就4000多点儿,跟学历没关系
三分钟前在 https://www.medicare.gov/ 的截图
人家说不定就是享受工作的乐趣呢
刚网上查了,可以呀
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不能,如果想拿,要补交,现在好像是社保15年,医保20年,我们自由职业那一年也得交2w对呢 ,40岁以上有优惠,能少交,具体多少得去当地社保局问
谢谢!
我刚刚看了一下我的社保,62岁只能拿6折, 不是7折呀!67岁100%
国内退休早,但是35岁以后你就没啥大的发展机会了。
美国退休晚,三四十岁转行跳槽都没问题。
你更喜欢哪个?
自己交的得55岁,除非在单位退休50
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好主意!就打算这么干了!要switch to spouse benefit一定要等到他65是吗?如果他的那份70岁再开始拿还可以吗?听说夫妻俩拿的多的那个人晚拿,少的那个早拿合算
刚查了一下,这个全国不统一,上海交15年就行了:
医保的要求与社保不同,而且全国不统一: 北京、苏州等大部分地区要求男性缴费年限满25年,女性缴费年限满20年; 上海、广州要求缴费年限满15年即可,是要求最宽松的地区; 还有一些地区要求男性缴费年限满30年,女性满25年
好像要先办退休然后入籍就没关系了。我的计划就是,等送走家里老人,不再需要经常回国,并且已办法定退休以后(谁知道会不会又延期,不过延也就一两年吧),然后就入籍,在这之前旅游就扔点小钱办签证呗。先入籍旅游方便了,看父母就不方便了,都不是钱能解决的,比如前几年疫情期间,幸好没入,还能进进出出探望家人。
对我们海外的人来说,能拿多少是多少,已经很感恩了,我们这边另有SS,401k, 根本不靠那个钱过日子,当地人如果退休后没有其他经济来源那是不太够的
不是30年吗?
要拿spouse的,必须spouse已经开始拿了。我们这边就有例子,那个老公过了65了还在工作,还同时拿ss,一问,说是为了让老婆拿spouse benefit,那老婆一直家庭主妇,没有自己的
这种事不能细问的。
是这样的。其实50或55退休主要是国内大学毕业的档案里是干部身份,所以都是55才能退休。寄存档案的人才中心是不会改身份的,所以基本自己缴费的都要55退休。如果挂靠个体公司以工人身份退休就可以50就退。不过现在好像不允许挂靠了
国内亲戚在帝都,大学毕业档案开始寄存在人才中心,自己交社保医保,后来听说挂靠单位可以50岁退休,就取出来以普通文员挂靠一私人公司,到50后以工人身份办理退休,当时退休金不到3000,不过这几年涨了些也还不到4000现在。
不知道干部身份退休比工人有啥benefit,还是退休工资会高很多?
不知道啊 可能至少要差一半的 工作人员根本不给解释的 各种晕
如果62岁开始拿,就一直拿70%了,所以一般人才会纠结该62岁拿还是等到67岁拿100%的
是的,现在不允许挂靠,查得严了,说如果被查到后果自负,55就55吧,交到15年后就可以不交了
原来是这样!那还不是一样嘛!67岁拿百分之百,但62-67 这段期间没拿,背着包着一般沉啊!万一活不到67呢?不就亏了!谁知道67岁以后发生什么?活在当下,享受现在,人生不能等!支持楼主!