No, not to Roth 401k, after tax 401k goes into Roth IRA directly. Roth 401k is a different offering. vsfan 发表于 2023-12-03 14:32
同意2楼的意见。再加上一些细节: A 401(k) plan that allows “after-tax contributions." After-tax contributions are a separate bucket of money from your traditional 401(k) and Roth 401(k) contributions. The dollars you put into an after-tax bucket are post-tax, so you''ve already paid taxes on them. In-service distributions. Your employer has to offer either in-service distributions to a Roth IRA — that is, you can take money out of the 401(k) plan while you’re still working at the company — or lets you move money from the after-tax portion of your plan into the Roth 401(k) part of the plan. If you’re not sure, ask your human resources department or plan administrator. 上面的摘自这个网页: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/mega-backdoor-roths-work 我们公司用Fidelity. 当你把钱放在after-tax 那一栏以后,给他们打电话,让他们给你SET automatic in-service conversion (or in-service distribution)。 注意,此时,还不是真正意义上的Roth IRA. At this moment, it is still one account inside of your employee based retirement saving account. Then, you need to set up a Roth IRA in Fidelity (not related to your employer at all). you need to call Fidelity to move the money from that in-service distribution account to the Roth IRA account. 我自己是一年年底的时候,打一次电话,把钱转到自己的Roth ira 帐号。在Fidelity 开这个帐号,就是为了方便,一个电话所有转账都搞定了。 所以, 打电话中,最关键的词是: in-service distribution。
回复 13楼的帖子 这个回答仅仅是针对Fidelity 帐号。 细节,居然不在Account部分。你需要点开statement,然后给个时间段,我喜欢用 year to date, 然后拉到最后一部分,account activity,就可以了以我自己为例,这部分我有六个不同的帐号,分别是: 1 Before Tax Account 2 After Tax Account 3 Employer Match Account 4 Roth Basic 5 ER Retirement Contribution 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 1 是 401k 2 是 after Tax 3 employee matching 4 Roth 401 5 another type of employee matching (pension substitute) 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 这就接上了我的上一个帖子: 怎样就 把after Tax part convert to Roth IRA. You need an intermediate step--- put it into Roth in-plan Conversion. (You can call Fidelity to set it up automatically). Once a year ( or any frequency you like), you have to call Fidelity to move money from Roth in-plan Conversion to your own Roth IRA. 我在这些细节上积攒了一些知识,想用简短zoom meeting 的方式跟大家分享一下。如果有人感兴趣,请在跟贴了抱抱名, 给我点动力准备meeting分享内容。
回复 13楼的帖子 这个回答仅仅是针对Fidelity 帐号。 细节,居然不在Account部分。你需要点开statement,然后给个时间段,我喜欢用 year to date, 然后拉到最后一部分,account activity,就可以了以我自己为例,这部分我有六个不同的帐号,分别是: 1 Before Tax Account 2 After Tax Account 3 Employer Match Account 4 Roth Basic 5 ER Retirement Contribution 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 1 是 401k 2 是 after Tax 3 employee matching 4 Roth 401 5 another type of employee matching (pension substitute) 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 这就接上了我的上一个帖子: 怎样就 把after Tax part convert to Roth IRA. You need an intermediate step--- put it into Roth in-plan Conversion. (You can call Fidelity to set it up automatically). Once a year ( or any frequency you like), you have to call Fidelity to move money from Roth in-plan Conversion to your own Roth IRA. 我在这些细节上积攒了一些知识,想用简短zoom meeting 的方式跟大家分享一下。如果有人感兴趣,请在跟贴了抱抱名, 给我点动力准备meeting分享内容。 zhouan54 发表于 2023-12-04 08:59
回复 13楼的帖子 这个回答仅仅是针对Fidelity 帐号。 细节,居然不在Account部分。你需要点开statement,然后给个时间段,我喜欢用 year to date, 然后拉到最后一部分,account activity,就可以了以我自己为例,这部分我有六个不同的帐号,分别是: 1 Before Tax Account 2 After Tax Account 3 Employer Match Account 4 Roth Basic 5 ER Retirement Contribution 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 1 是 401k 2 是 after Tax 3 employee matching 4 Roth 401 5 another type of employee matching (pension substitute) 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion 这就接上了我的上一个帖子: 怎样就 把after Tax part convert to Roth IRA. You need an intermediate step--- put it into Roth in-plan Conversion. (You can call Fidelity to set it up automatically). Once a year ( or any frequency you like), you have to call Fidelity to move money from Roth in-plan Conversion to your own Roth IRA. 我在这些细节上积攒了一些知识,想用简短zoom meeting 的方式跟大家分享一下。如果有人感兴趣,请在跟贴了抱抱名, 给我点动力准备meeting分享内容。 zhouan54 发表于 2023-12-04 08:59
可以。在职时候需要你们雇主的401k支持。离职的时候就完全没问题。
不是。要看公司401k的条款吧。
我们的after tax 401k就是随时in plan conversion到roth 401k。但是我们plan在职期间,不允许转走,所有roth部分,只能离职后才能转roth ira。
问公司plan的administrator啊。每个公司plan又不是一模一样的,问网友没用。
我们401k在fidelity,可以有brokagelink,用401k里的钱买fidelity上的股票基金,没限制。如果楼主公司plan也有这个,那投资选项基本无限。
看你公司允不允许。你要是换公司以后就可以随便转了。 还有五年以内或者59.5岁以前只有contribution的部分是免税的,earning的部分在转Roth IRA的时候是要收税的
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同意2楼的意见。再加上一些细节: A 401(k) plan that allows “after-tax contributions." After-tax contributions are a separate bucket of money from your traditional 401(k) and Roth 401(k) contributions. The dollars you put into an after-tax bucket are post-tax, so you''ve already paid taxes on them. In-service distributions. Your employer has to offer either in-service distributions to a Roth IRA — that is, you can take money out of the 401(k) plan while you’re still working at the company — or lets you move money from the after-tax portion of your plan into the Roth 401(k) part of the plan. If you’re not sure, ask your human resources department or plan administrator. 上面的摘自这个网页: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/mega-backdoor-roths-work
我们公司用Fidelity. 当你把钱放在after-tax 那一栏以后,给他们打电话,让他们给你SET automatic in-service conversion (or in-service distribution)。 注意,此时,还不是真正意义上的Roth IRA. At this moment, it is still one account inside of your employee based retirement saving account. Then, you need to set up a Roth IRA in Fidelity (not related to your employer at all). you need to call Fidelity to move the money from that in-service distribution account to the Roth IRA account. 我自己是一年年底的时候,打一次电话,把钱转到自己的Roth ira 帐号。在Fidelity 开这个帐号,就是为了方便,一个电话所有转账都搞定了。 所以, 打电话中,最关键的词是: in-service distribution。
而且这样退休之后开始withdraw,难道不能指定先提取regular 401k部分吗?
你在账户里仔细找找应该可以看到,不行就给Fidelity打电话。还有在电脑和手机上看到的也许有区别,我公司的在手机上就能很容易看到,电脑上反而要找半天。 退休以后withdraw据说是根据账户组成按比例取的,不能只选税前或者税后。
好的多谢。这些账户也不知都怎么设计的,用户体验很差。
如果RothIRA开户已经满五年,earning也免税,整个roll over都是tax free的 因为five year rule是按RothIRA的开户时间算的,如果以前没有RothIRA,为了Rollover新开了一个,那就是你说的这种情况了
是这个道理,所以Roth IRA开户不满五年earning先不要转过去,新开的账户先转contribution.
这个回答仅仅是针对Fidelity 帐号。 细节,居然不在Account部分。你需要点开statement,然后给个时间段,我喜欢用 year to date, 然后拉到最后一部分,account activity,就可以了以我自己为例,这部分我有六个不同的帐号,分别是:
1 Before Tax Account 2 After Tax Account 3 Employer Match Account 4 Roth Basic 5 ER Retirement Contribution 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion
1 是 401k 2 是 after Tax 3 employee matching 4 Roth 401 5 another type of employee matching (pension substitute) 6 Roth in-Plan Conversion
这就接上了我的上一个帖子: 怎样就 把after Tax part convert to Roth IRA. You need an intermediate step--- put it into Roth in-plan Conversion. (You can call Fidelity to set it up automatically). Once a year ( or any frequency you like), you have to call Fidelity to move money from Roth in-plan Conversion to your own Roth IRA.
我在这些细节上积攒了一些知识,想用简短zoom meeting 的方式跟大家分享一下。如果有人感兴趣,请在跟贴了抱抱名, 给我点动力准备meeting分享内容。
有哪些办法把traditional IRA balance 变成零?
赞一个,你说的很靠谱。
mark, 有兴趣。你开一个新帖吧。
前者要补税,后者要公司plan policy同意,是吧?
多谢多谢!太详细了,赞。