AFP News Agency @AFP Ukrainian forces have made gradual progress in their counteroffensive launched last month but have so far failed to produce a major breakthrough, as they urge Western allies to escalate pledges of military support. news.yahoo.com Ukraine says Russian troops advancing in 'fierce fighting' Ukraine said on Sunday that Russian troops were advancing in four areas in the east of the country amid "fierce fighting", but reported its forces moving
25 Tanks And Fighting Vehicles, Gone In A Blink: The Ukrainian Defeat Near Mala Tokmachka Was Worst Than We Thought David Axe Forbes Staff I write about ships, planes, tanks, drones, missiles and satellites.
The aftermath of the June 8 assault south of Mala Tokmachka.VIA SOCIAL MEDIA An attempt by the Ukrainian army’s 47th Assault Brigade and 33rd Mechanized Brigade to cross a minefield in southern Ukraine on June 8 was even more disastrous than we knew. Analysts recently have tallied even more wrecked and abandoned 47th Brigade M-2 infantry fighting vehicles. At the same time, a Ukrainian photographer on or before Saturday got close enough to the site of the failed assault to snap photos of the Russian minefield that trapped the Ukrainian battlegroup, ultimately destroying dozens of 47th and 33rd Brigades’ best Western-made vehicles and killing or wounding many Ukrainians. Ukraine’s widely-anticipated 2023 counteroffensive was just four days old when the 47th-33rd battlegroup rolled south from Mala Tokmachka in southern Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Their objective: the Russian strongpoint in the town of Robotyne, five miles to the south along the T0408 road and parallel dirt tracks. If the Ukrainians can break through Russian lines in Robotyne, they can advance on Tokmak, 12 miles farther south. If they can break through Russian lines in Tokmak, they can make a go at Melitopol, 25 miles away along the T0401. Liberating Melitopol would cut in half the Russian force in southern Ukraine. The Russians are well aware of the importance of the Robotyne-Tokmak-Melitopol axis. Two motor-rifle regiments, the 70th and 291st, have dug in north of Robotyne alongside a pair of Spetznaz special-forces brigades and some reservists. Russian air force helicopters patrol overhead. And then there are the mines, including hundreds or even thousands of TM-62s. The 21-pound TM-62 is your traditional mine: a big metal disk, packed with explosives and fitted with one of several fuze types. The pressure fuze might be the most popular. Engineers bury TM-62s by hand or speed up the operation by deploying a GMZ minelaying vehicle. There’s nothing fancy about a pressure-fuze TM-62. But there doesn’t have to be when you lay them as densely as Russian engineers clearly did south of Mala Tokmachka. The recent photos of the old battlefield depict unexploded TM-62s lying just a few feet apart in the minefield equivalent of a thick carpet. Russian scouts spotted the 47th-33rd Brigade battlegroup approaching Robotyne on June 8 and called in Kamov attack helicopters that plucked at the Ukrainian column with anti-tank missiles. But it was the mines that did in the 33rd and 47th Brigades. The 47th Brigade’s ex-Finnish Leopard 2R mineclearing vehicles led the way, assisted by at least one German-made Wisent mineclearer possibly belonging to the 33rd Brigade. The mineclearing vehicles plowed up some of the mines, clearing a few lanes partially through the minefield. 47th Brigade M-2s and MaxxPro armored trucks—all donated by the United States—followed close behind. But the British-made plows on the Leopard 2Rs and Wisent clearly missed more than a few mines. Three Leopard 2Rs and a Wisent struck mines, as did several M-2s. Trapped and under fire, the battlegroup fell apart. Crews bailed out of their disabled vehicles, dragging their dead and wounded with them. A rescue force riding in M-2s scooped up many of the survivors.
你不造谣就会死吗? https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ottawasigs#:~:text=For%20more%20information%20about%20the,have%20not%20signed%20the%20treaty. ``` Some key current and past producers and users of landmines, including the United States, China, India, Pakistan, and Russia, have not signed the treaty. The George W. Bush administration announced Feb. 27, 2004 that the United States would not join the Ottawa Convention. The Barack Obama administration changed that policy in 2014, expressing an intention to eventually join, banning the production and acquisition of APLs and reserving their use for only on the Korean peninsula. In sharp contrast to President Obama’s landmine policy, the Trump administration allowed the production and deployment of APLs anywhere in the world in 2020, although there was no known new use or production during his presidency . Two years later, the Biden administration announced that it would be rolling back the Trump administration’s policy, essentially returning to the 2014 approach. The Biden administration’s policy aligned U.S. APL policy outside of the Korean peninsula “with the key requirements of the Ottawa Convention – the international treaty prohibiting the use, stockpiling, production, and transfer of APL.”```
你不造谣就会死吗? https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ottawasigs#:~:text=For%20more%20information%20about%20the,have%20not%20signed%20the%20treaty. ``` Some key current and past producers and users of landmines, including the United States, China, India, Pakistan, and Russia, have not signed the treaty. The George W. Bush administration announced Feb. 27, 2004 that the United States would not join the Ottawa Convention. The Barack Obama administration changed that policy in 2014, expressing an intention to eventually join, banning the production and acquisition of APLs and reserving their use for only on the Korean peninsula. In sharp contrast to President Obama’s landmine policy, the Trump administration allowed the production and deployment of APLs anywhere in the world in 2020, although there was no known new use or production during his presidency . Two years later, the Biden administration announced that it would be rolling back the Trump administration’s policy, essentially returning to the 2014 approach. The Biden administration’s policy aligned U.S. APL policy outside of the Korean peninsula “with the key requirements of the Ottawa Convention – the international treaty prohibiting the use, stockpiling, production, and transfer of APL.”```
话说胶合板战神绍伊古又露面了,正式宣布俄军已经击毁乌克兰全部的豹2坦克。 绍伊古宣称过去一个月内俄军已经击毁乌克兰各类坦克和装甲车共2500辆,飞机15架,直升机3架,拦截158枚海马斯和25枚暴风阴影导弹。 In all, Ukrainian troops have lost about 2,500 various armaments in all directions since June 4. In addition, Russian air defense forces intercepted 158 rockets of the US-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket system and 25 Storm Shadow cruise missiles over the past month, the defense chief said. https://tass.com/politics/1641811?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share
要么北约无限量供应中长程导弹,坦克、飞机等硬家伙、要么北约部队亲自下场,指望现在乌克兰的军力和北约的援助力度,反攻收复领土基本是没有希望的。
现在才意识到,其实北约很多装甲部队就和纸片一样,不挂附加装甲基本等于开卡车
地上有无数地雷,天上有克星武直,加上大毛子最擅长的大炮作战模式,基本上现在这种模式的反攻就是白白送死。 普京说双方是 10:1的战损率,不算是太吹牛的。
乌克兰要改变策略,但北约明显援助力度没有大后劲了,今天泽连斯基说我知道你们北约手里还有多少备用军备,你们只是不想给而已,不要说没有了,你们还有很多,我有数据的。
现在就看美国了,如果明年共和党候选人或者民主党的肯尼迪当选,形势更不利乌克兰了。
进程基本不会有太大影响,双方伤亡都很大,而且除了战线,两国其他地方都基本不受影响,已经和中越当时状态差不多了
不管是乌克兰药丸还是俄罗斯药丸都不现实,毕竟两国基础设施,没有真正大的损坏
这种话题最好别看中文的信息
俄罗斯输是输不了,双方战争潜力摆在那里的,欧美援助的也不够给力。
不过打到目前这样,已经算输了,以后国际上基本没有人惧俄罗斯了,估计周边国家比如土耳其自己掂量一下都觉得可以跟俄罗斯掰掰手腕。
你要看英文信息,一样能得到那些东西。
关键还是看你相信哪些具体来源,而不是哪种语言。
不觉得,西方整体下场,全方位经济制裁,金融制裁,全方位卫星监控情报支持,大规模武器援助人员训练,而且人员训练数年前就开始了,就这样乌克兰还打的这么吃力,你说谁敢单独去挑战俄罗斯?
而且很多时候就是在缓冲带就完蛋了,好比古代大军攻打城池,大部分进攻军队丧生在城墙前的开阔地带,连城墙都还没摸到
北约除了人没上,基本上都拿出家底来拼了,你还在这自欺欺人呢。
过去2天,乌军在赫尔松地区第聂伯河左岸桥头阵地损失了300多人,因为无法对付俄军通过公路机动的伊斯坎德尔短程导弹轰炸。
北约依然在培训乌军战斗机驾驶员,短期内乌军无法取得空中优势。
但是乌军情报局长布达诺夫少将已经向泽连斯基总统建议:在美国国庆节期间乌军用手头仅有的几百架无人机和几十枚中程导弹密集攻击俄军占领的克里米亚各个军事设施,动摇克里米亚军心民心。泽连斯基担忧地说:“俄军在克里米亚大部分军事设施非常接近民居,我非常担心造成平民伤亡。” 布达诺夫坚定地说:“总统先生,您的迟疑不决会对我方军民造成更大损失!请您马上下命令!” 泽连斯基叹了一口气说:“基里尔,我非常信任你。这个行动就由你全权负责!”
@AFP
Ukrainian forces have made gradual progress in their counteroffensive launched last month but have so far failed to produce a major breakthrough, as they urge Western allies to escalate pledges of military support.
news.yahoo.com Ukraine says Russian troops advancing in 'fierce fighting'
Ukraine said on Sunday that Russian troops were advancing in four areas in the east of the country amid "fierce fighting", but reported its forces moving
俄国占领的乌克兰东部和克里米亚地区百业停顿,民不聊生。俄国会在几年内输掉经济战。
这种傻叉的数字居然有人信。不要说10个换一个,就是一个换一个乌克兰也坚持不到现在,普里戈津也不会叛乱。
普里戈津 反叛是因为国防部想接收瓦格纳,
并不是因为快要输了.
你会把自己的权力交出来吗?
整个乌克兰南方俄军的战略纵深就100公里,真要被打穿第三道防线就完蛋了,155重炮就可以火力覆盖整个乌南俄军的全部后方。俄军防守的最低目标是不能让任何一段海岸线进入火箭炮射程,理想情况下应该通过防守反击再往前推进一段距离,不过很困难
乌克兰丢失的土地是最发达的工业区。
土耳其的埃尔德安和普京可是buddy ,当年政变的时候普京救他一命。土耳其宁可不要F-35也要买S-400。
这个写法怎么有熟悉的感觉
David Axe Forbes Staff I write about ships, planes, tanks, drones, missiles and satellites.
The aftermath of the June 8 assault south of Mala Tokmachka.VIA SOCIAL MEDIA An attempt by the Ukrainian army’s 47th Assault Brigade and 33rd Mechanized Brigade to cross a minefield in southern Ukraine on June 8 was even more disastrous than we knew. Analysts recently have tallied even more wrecked and abandoned 47th Brigade M-2 infantry fighting vehicles. At the same time, a Ukrainian photographer on or before Saturday got close enough to the site of the failed assault to snap photos of the Russian minefield that trapped the Ukrainian battlegroup, ultimately destroying dozens of 47th and 33rd Brigades’ best Western-made vehicles and killing or wounding many Ukrainians. Ukraine’s widely-anticipated 2023 counteroffensive was just four days old when the 47th-33rd battlegroup rolled south from Mala Tokmachka in southern Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Their objective: the Russian strongpoint in the town of Robotyne, five miles to the south along the T0408 road and parallel dirt tracks. If the Ukrainians can break through Russian lines in Robotyne, they can advance on Tokmak, 12 miles farther south. If they can break through Russian lines in Tokmak, they can make a go at Melitopol, 25 miles away along the T0401. Liberating Melitopol would cut in half the Russian force in southern Ukraine. The Russians are well aware of the importance of the Robotyne-Tokmak-Melitopol axis. Two motor-rifle regiments, the 70th and 291st, have dug in north of Robotyne alongside a pair of Spetznaz special-forces brigades and some reservists. Russian air force helicopters patrol overhead. And then there are the mines, including hundreds or even thousands of TM-62s. The 21-pound TM-62 is your traditional mine: a big metal disk, packed with explosives and fitted with one of several fuze types. The pressure fuze might be the most popular. Engineers bury TM-62s by hand or speed up the operation by deploying a GMZ minelaying vehicle. There’s nothing fancy about a pressure-fuze TM-62. But there doesn’t have to be when you lay them as densely as Russian engineers clearly did south of Mala Tokmachka. The recent photos of the old battlefield depict unexploded TM-62s lying just a few feet apart in the minefield equivalent of a thick carpet. Russian scouts spotted the 47th-33rd Brigade battlegroup approaching Robotyne on June 8 and called in Kamov attack helicopters that plucked at the Ukrainian column with anti-tank missiles. But it was the mines that did in the 33rd and 47th Brigades. The 47th Brigade’s ex-Finnish Leopard 2R mineclearing vehicles led the way, assisted by at least one German-made Wisent mineclearer possibly belonging to the 33rd Brigade. The mineclearing vehicles plowed up some of the mines, clearing a few lanes partially through the minefield. 47th Brigade M-2s and MaxxPro armored trucks—all donated by the United States—followed close behind. But the British-made plows on the Leopard 2Rs and Wisent clearly missed more than a few mines. Three Leopard 2Rs and a Wisent struck mines, as did several M-2s. Trapped and under fire, the battlegroup fell apart. Crews bailed out of their disabled vehicles, dragging their dead and wounded with them. A rescue force riding in M-2s scooped up many of the survivors.
俄罗斯已经没有办法积极进攻 只能被动防御 采用埋地雷, 炸水库, 炸桥梁, 自爆坦克等下流手段 目前俄罗斯大致战略是: 用仅有的巡航导弹彻底炸毁克里米亚所有设施 炸毁所有克里米亚到黑尔松州的桥梁 炸毁所有在黑尔松州的水库 在扎波罗热州埋设大量的地雷和S300拦截导弹轰炸居民设施 所有重武器精锐部队转移到顿涅茨克州 准备大决战 使用少量部队在卢甘斯克州进行狙击战
现代战争中允许用地雷吗?
乌克兰赢不了,俄罗斯不会输。
最后乌克兰老百姓会发现打仗打了个寂寞,不知道为什么要打仗,但是家园毁了,海边也没了。再打下去,乌克兰年轻男人都快没了。
乌克兰人和俄罗斯人的文化差别不会比上海人和北京人的差别大,或者说包邮区和山海关北面的人的文化差别比乌克兰与俄罗斯更大。
老实说,30年前问上海人愿不愿意脱离北京独立,保证90%的人说愿意。
可怜的乌克兰老百姓,归乌克兰领导和归俄罗斯领导有差别吗?要讲民主自由,少贪污腐败,恐怕乌克兰比俄罗斯更糟。
你不造谣就会死吗?
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ottawasigs#:~:text=For%20more%20information%20about%20the,have%20not%20signed%20the%20treaty.
``` Some key current and past producers and users of landmines, including the United States, China, India, Pakistan, and Russia, have not signed the treaty. The George W. Bush administration announced Feb. 27, 2004 that the United States would not join the Ottawa Convention. The Barack Obama administration changed that policy in 2014, expressing an intention to eventually join, banning the production and acquisition of APLs and reserving their use for only on the Korean peninsula. In sharp contrast to President Obama’s landmine policy, the Trump administration allowed the production and deployment of APLs anywhere in the world in 2020, although there was no known new use or production during his presidency . Two years later, the Biden administration announced that it would be rolling back the Trump administration’s policy, essentially returning to the 2014 approach. The Biden administration’s policy aligned U.S. APL policy outside of the Korean peninsula “with the key requirements of the Ottawa Convention – the international treaty prohibiting the use, stockpiling, production, and transfer of APL.”```
嗯,估计双方都难。 打乌克兰很容易的话,瓦格纳拿钱干活儿就完了。不容易才有甩锅,抱怨啥的。
大体就是这样 美国曾经加入过地雷公约禁止使用地雷 然后川普总统又容许使用地雷 中俄印从来没有加入过地雷公约 只是没有精确的阐述
你丫认识英文吗?不认识就用translator把上述文字翻译一下
三个大流氓都没有sign 禁雷条约
有三八线的存在,美国不可能签。
中国当年投了日本,早就是大东亚强国了(按你的逻辑)
至于我本人意见,全世界就应该联合成一个合众国,什么特殊军事行动统一战贸易战,战争就是浪费
现在抖音能刷到的很多视频,乌克兰那边还真的是讲英语了。
乌东俄占区青年人都被普京拉壮丁了,这些新公寓都变成鬼楼。
绍伊古宣称过去一个月内俄军已经击毁乌克兰各类坦克和装甲车共2500辆,飞机15架,直升机3架,拦截158枚海马斯和25枚暴风阴影导弹。
In all, Ukrainian troops have lost about 2,500 various armaments in all directions since June 4. In addition, Russian air defense forces intercepted 158 rockets of the US-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket system and 25 Storm Shadow cruise missiles over the past month, the defense chief said.
https://tass.com/politics/1641811?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share
这么敢写?
这些就是英美派过去的兵吧?
俄军只要能把现有的地方守住就不算完全失败。进攻和防守难度是不一样的,不光是装备,对人员的要求差别更大
像这种literally 老掉牙的俄军动员兵,进攻的时候就是废物一个,当炮灰都不够格,防守的时候能用到的地方就很多了
嗯呢,好多人去哪抄底买房,应该是稳了