全文读下来，中国新科技的发展太猛了，中国胜在资金投入，人才储备，和国家战略上。 美国怎么办，才能尽量延长自己的科技领先时间？ 光靠制裁和打压中国，已经没有什么用了。 全文链接在这里： https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-leads-us-global-competition-key-emerging-technology-study-says-2023-03-02/ China leads US in global competition for key emerging technology, study says REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration SYDNEY, March 2 (Reuters) - China has a "stunning lead" in 37 out of 44 critical and emerging technologies as Western democracies lose a global competition for research output, a security think tank said on Thursday after tracking defence, space, energy and biotechnology. The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) said its study showed that, in some fields, all of the world''s top 10 research institutions are based in China. The study, funded by the United States State Department, found the United States was often second-ranked, although it led global research in high-performance computing, quantum computing, small satellites and vaccines. "Western democracies are losing the global technological competition, including the race for scientific and research breakthroughs," the report said, urging greater research investment by governments. China had established a "stunning lead in high-impact research" under government programs. The report called for democratic nations to collaborate more often to create secure supply chains and "rapidly pursue a strategic critical technology step-up". ASPI tracked the most-cited scientific papers, which it said are the most likely to result in patents. China''s surprise breakthrough in hypersonic missiles in 2021 would have been identified earlier if China''''s strong research had been detected, it said. "Over the past five years, China generated 48.49% of the world''s high-impact research papers into advanced aircraft engines, including hypersonics, and it hosts seven of the world''s top 10 research institutions," it said. In the fields of photonic sensors and quantum communication, China''s research strength could result in it "going dark" to the surveillance of western intelligence, including the "Five Eyes" of Britain, United States, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, it said. National talent flows of researchers were also tracked and monopoly risks were identified. China was likely to emerge with a monopoly in 10 fields including synthetic biology, where it produces one-third of all research, as well as electric batteries, 5G, and nano manufacturing. The Chinese Academy of Sciences, a government research body, ranked first or second in most of the 44 technologies tracked, which spanned defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and quantum technology. China was bolstering its research with knowledge gained overseas, and the data showed one-fifth of the top Chinese researchers were trained in a Five Eyes country, it said. The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. Australia''s universities have said they are complying with foreign influence laws designed to stop the illegal transfer of technology to China, but also noted international collaboration is an integral part of university research.
The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. 这个study的目的
The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. 这个study的目的 chasebanks 发表于 2023-03-03 05:10
"The study, funded by the United States State Department" 以前烟草公司资助学术界进行吸烟无害的科研，类似的还有巧克力（https://consumerist.com/2017/10/19/report-chocolate-industry-paid-for-research-showing-that-chocolate-is-healthy/），咖啡有益健康。 “The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies.” 看起来都是有任务的。
The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. 这个study的目的 chasebanks 发表于 2023-03-03 05:10
全文读下来，中国新科技的发展太猛了，中国胜在资金投入，人才储备，和国家战略上。 美国怎么办，才能尽量延长自己的科技领先时间？ 光靠制裁和打压中国，已经没有什么用了。 全文链接在这里： https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-leads-us-global-competition-key-emerging-technology-study-says-2023-03-02/ China leads US in global competition for key emerging technology, study says REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration SYDNEY, March 2 (Reuters) - China has a "stunning lead" in 37 out of 44 critical and emerging technologies as Western democracies lose a global competition for research output, a security think tank said on Thursday after tracking defence, space, energy and biotechnology. The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) said its study showed that, in some fields, all of the world''''s top 10 research institutions are based in China. The study, funded by the United States State Department, found the United States was often second-ranked, although it led global research in high-performance computing, quantum computing, small satellites and vaccines. "Western democracies are losing the global technological competition, including the race for scientific and research breakthroughs," the report said, urging greater research investment by governments. China had established a "stunning lead in high-impact research" under government programs. The report called for democratic nations to collaborate more often to create secure supply chains and "rapidly pursue a strategic critical technology step-up". ASPI tracked the most-cited scientific papers, which it said are the most likely to result in patents. China''''s surprise breakthrough in hypersonic missiles in 2021 would have been identified earlier if China''''''''s strong research had been detected, it said. "Over the past five years, China generated 48.49% of the world''''s high-impact research papers into advanced aircraft engines, including hypersonics, and it hosts seven of the world''''s top 10 research institutions," it said. In the fields of photonic sensors and quantum communication, China''''s research strength could result in it "going dark" to the surveillance of western intelligence, including the "Five Eyes" of Britain, United States, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, it said. National talent flows of researchers were also tracked and monopoly risks were identified. China was likely to emerge with a monopoly in 10 fields including synthetic biology, where it produces one-third of all research, as well as electric batteries, 5G, and nano manufacturing. The Chinese Academy of Sciences, a government research body, ranked first or second in most of the 44 technologies tracked, which spanned defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and quantum technology. China was bolstering its research with knowledge gained overseas, and the data showed one-fifth of the top Chinese researchers were trained in a Five Eyes country, it said. The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. Australia''''s universities have said they are complying with foreign influence laws designed to stop the illegal transfer of technology to China, but also noted international collaboration is an integral part of university research. blueorchid5z 发表于 2023-03-03 04:37
全文读下来，中国新科技的发展太猛了，中国胜在资金投入，人才储备，和国家战略上。 美国怎么办，才能尽量延长自己的科技领先时间？ 光靠制裁和打压中国，已经没有什么用了。 全文链接在这里： https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-leads-us-global-competition-key-emerging-technology-study-says-2023-03-02/ China leads US in global competition for key emerging technology, study says REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration SYDNEY, March 2 (Reuters) - China has a "stunning lead" in 37 out of 44 critical and emerging technologies as Western democracies lose a global competition for research output, a security think tank said on Thursday after tracking defence, space, energy and biotechnology. The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) said its study showed that, in some fields, all of the world''s top 10 research institutions are based in China. The study, funded by the United States State Department, found the United States was often second-ranked, although it led global research in high-performance computing, quantum computing, small satellites and vaccines. "Western democracies are losing the global technological competition, including the race for scientific and research breakthroughs," the report said, urging greater research investment by governments. China had established a "stunning lead in high-impact research" under government programs. The report called for democratic nations to collaborate more often to create secure supply chains and "rapidly pursue a strategic critical technology step-up". ASPI tracked the most-cited scientific papers, which it said are the most likely to result in patents. China''s surprise breakthrough in hypersonic missiles in 2021 would have been identified earlier if China''''s strong research had been detected, it said. "Over the past five years, China generated 48.49% of the world''s high-impact research papers into advanced aircraft engines, including hypersonics, and it hosts seven of the world''s top 10 research institutions," it said. In the fields of photonic sensors and quantum communication, China''s research strength could result in it "going dark" to the surveillance of western intelligence, including the "Five Eyes" of Britain, United States, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, it said. National talent flows of researchers were also tracked and monopoly risks were identified. China was likely to emerge with a monopoly in 10 fields including synthetic biology, where it produces one-third of all research, as well as electric batteries, 5G, and nano manufacturing. The Chinese Academy of Sciences, a government research body, ranked first or second in most of the 44 technologies tracked, which spanned defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and quantum technology. China was bolstering its research with knowledge gained overseas, and the data showed one-fifth of the top Chinese researchers were trained in a Five Eyes country, it said. The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies. Australia''s universities have said they are complying with foreign influence laws designed to stop the illegal transfer of technology to China, but also noted international collaboration is an integral part of university research. blueorchid5z 发表于 2023-03-03 04:37
三十年前半导体制成遇到瓶口， EUV光源技术上高不可及。 在美军先进研究属DARPA的领导下， 加州大学及数个国家实验室和美国标准局合作加入攻关行列。DARPA的项目主持人是UCSD俩物理教授， 后出来创立光源公司cymer。今天EUV光源就美国能生产， 杀手锏级别的东西。 有了光源还要有透镜， 这是德国卡尔菜斯的绝活。 光源决定能否出活， 透镜关系到成品优良率。 对号入座， 前者是中科院高能所等的活， 后者是中科院众光机所的坎。中科院领导拍胸脯是有原因的。 除了光源透镜， 半导体生产线上还有无数数理化硬骨头。 在科技规划项目管理和实施上， DARPA是典范。我们今天手上玩的东西都有DARPA影子。 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithography To address this scientific challenge, researchers at several United States Department of Energy (DOE) national laboratories (specifically Livermore, Berkeley, and Sandia) were funded in the 1990s to perform basic research into the technical obstacles. The results of this successful effort were disseminated via a public/private partnership Cooperative R&D Agreement (CRADA) with the invention and rights wholly owned by the US government, but licensed and distributed under approval by DOE and Congress.[6] The CRADA consisted of a consortium of private companies and the Labs, manifested as an entity called EUV-LLC. (长臂管辖的基础) 说句题外话， 这些国家实验室联邦科研机构人员中美国土著占绝大多数。 美国教育体系保证美国有这些人才， 关键时刻能攻关出活。再对号入座对比中美各层次现状， 马上可以看出中国的短板在哪。
全文链接在这里： https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-leads-us-global-competition-key-emerging-technology-study-says-2023-03-02/
China leads US in global competition for key emerging technology, study says REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration
SYDNEY, March 2 (Reuters) - China has a "stunning lead" in 37 out of 44 critical and emerging technologies as Western democracies lose a global competition for research output, a security think tank said on Thursday after tracking defence, space, energy and biotechnology.
The Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) said its study showed that, in some fields, all of the world''s top 10 research institutions are based in China.
The study, funded by the United States State Department, found the United States was often second-ranked, although it led global research in high-performance computing, quantum computing, small satellites and vaccines.
"Western democracies are losing the global technological competition, including the race for scientific and research breakthroughs," the report said, urging greater research investment by governments.
China had established a "stunning lead in high-impact research" under government programs.
The report called for democratic nations to collaborate more often to create secure supply chains and "rapidly pursue a strategic critical technology step-up".
ASPI tracked the most-cited scientific papers, which it said are the most likely to result in patents. China''s surprise breakthrough in hypersonic missiles in 2021 would have been identified earlier if China''''s strong research had been detected, it said.
"Over the past five years, China generated 48.49% of the world''s high-impact research papers into advanced aircraft engines, including hypersonics, and it hosts seven of the world''s top 10 research institutions," it said.
In the fields of photonic sensors and quantum communication, China''s research strength could result in it "going dark" to the surveillance of western intelligence, including the "Five Eyes" of Britain, United States, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, it said.
National talent flows of researchers were also tracked and monopoly risks were identified.
China was likely to emerge with a monopoly in 10 fields including synthetic biology, where it produces one-third of all research, as well as electric batteries, 5G, and nano manufacturing.
The Chinese Academy of Sciences, a government research body, ranked first or second in most of the 44 technologies tracked, which spanned defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and quantum technology.
China was bolstering its research with knowledge gained overseas, and the data showed one-fifth of the top Chinese researchers were trained in a Five Eyes country, it said.
The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies.
Australia''s universities have said they are complying with foreign influence laws designed to stop the illegal transfer of technology to China, but also noted international collaboration is an integral part of university research.
这个study的目的
不是中国大幅领先吗，怎么还是一副“严防中国偷我们先进技术”的思路。
因为数据显示，中国这些科技带头人都是从西方国家训练的。
全面反华 加不让华人进入五眼的高科技领域。
张嘴闭嘴偷技术，说的好像这些人才在美国学习完知识后，回中国就不会自己思考出新成绩了。
别急啊，芯片很快就会有的 制程进步快到头了 中国应该不用了 几年就赶上来
极大刺激了中国 人，中国企业 中国政府的 对自主研发的 决心 这就像是一场外来欺辱 造成 ---- 觉醒革命 川建国 拜振华 从某个角度来说 是很有道理的
很快了，用不了几年。
据说 28nm光刻机 ，做了三四台 ，在好几个产线上测试 哈工大的平面光栅 做出来 28nm 升级到 14 nm 7nm ，最大障碍 已经消除
对，最近好几篇文章都是这调调。
"The study, funded by the United States State Department"
以前烟草公司资助学术界进行吸烟无害的科研，类似的还有巧克力（https://consumerist.com/2017/10/19/report-chocolate-industry-paid-for-research-showing-that-chocolate-is-healthy/），咖啡有益健康。
“The study recommended visa screening programs to limit illegal technology transfers and instead favour international collaboration with security allies.”
看起来都是有任务的。
美国还是aa 的不够，再等两月吧
数据呢？别张嘴就瞎说。
中国现在关键问题是领导不行， 都是些歪瓜裂枣咋办。
如果真是这样，多派人到中国学习，多留中国过来的人才才是解决之道。结果呢？
哈哈
不仅美国应该公派去中国留学，还要多偷中国的世界最先进技术，让美国能弯道超车把第一夺回来
高端芯片（不好意思主要是民用） 之所以无法在中国发展起来， 全靠进口？ 原因是芯片业的赢者通吃，芯片产业链的建立需要大量资金，这些资金由客户承担， 一代一代的客户撑起来的芯片发展
以前中国芯片业追赶的最大障碍是没有客户买单， 你在后面追， 永远自己得掏腰包填还没人要， 10年？ 20年， 在芯片随便买的年代，没有那个傻子会去发展自己芯片，所谓的造不如买。
现在这个障碍没了。 大妈可能不知道，芯片制造还真不是什么一定做不出来的东西， 需要的是大量时间和实践， 这东西难的是绝对无法速成， 但是你如果给29年慢慢磨， 总能磨出来， 真不难， 它是engineering 而不是science, 说句不好听的话就是靠搬砖卷也能卷出来
典型例子是国际空间站， 要不是美国不让中国玩， 就不会有什么天宫一号
这还是嫌美国堕落的不够快啊？
这你就错了 如果你在美国呆过就不会开这种玩笑
现在美国人最大的问题就是不想干事情只想躺平吃别人朝贡
如果有你说的那个上进心， 真的不需要跑中国偷东西， 美国人自己开足马力干能把中国甩出几百条街
缺的就是这股上进心哪
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领导不行 也出了个华为 当然还有很多不错的企业 可以肯定的说 ：在新兴行业 ，中国对美国是碾压式的
之前 中国相关的半导体 设备材料，就算搞出来 也没人敢用.. 动辄上百亿甚至几百亿 美元的生产线， 谁敢给你 做试验啊..所以发展举步维艰 现在是不用也得用 半导体设备 没有啥顶尖的 科学 关键是 know how 这主要是基于大量的 经验 试验
三五年后 估计中国半导体 就会让美国难堪
眼界太低了…… 欧洲航天局能上国际空间站，他们把钱用做rosetta，做了人类对彗星最详细的观察 日本航天局能上国际空间站，把钱用做隼鸟，返回了人类第一个小行星采样。 中国不让上国际空间站，三十年后做了个和平号，不知道做了啥实验，做了啥贡献。
那你等30年后没成绩再BB呗
我不在意
更重要的难道不是科技能否转化成生产力和国力吗
真是特别好。对于我们美国为你们中国科技大幅进步做出的贡献我感到特别欣慰，当然了我们也没有中国能投桃报李譬如说降低点在美华人回中国的难度这种痴心妄想了，但是单纯觉得特别为你们高兴
re 东升西降，44项里应该有50项大幅领先
半导体生产设备的技术含金量超过原子弹洲际导弹。 不信可以问问中科院领导， 级别够高的领导心里都明白。 中科院院长：按美制裁清单设立科研目标签军令状 https://www.sohu.com/a/419239425_100114158 学霸把作业都帮着做好了。
中央社雪梨2日綜合外電報導）澳洲一安全智庫今天指出，在追蹤國防、太空、能源與生物 科技等領域的科學論文後，發現在44項關鍵新興科技當中，中國在多達37項領先；西方國家 在全球研究產出競賽中節節敗退。
路透社報導，澳洲戰略政策研究所（Australian Strategic Policy Institute，ASPI）表 示，其研究顯示，一些領域的全球前10大研究機構，總部都設在中國。
這份研究受到美國國務院資助。
當中發現，美國在這項調查中常常屈居第2；
但在高效能運算、量子計算、小型衛星與疫苗等領域，研究成績傲視全球。
報告表示，「西方民主國家在全球科技競賽上正節節敗退，包括在科學與研究的突破」；因 此敦促各國政府投資更多經費在研究上。
報告指出，中國藉由各項政府計畫，在「有重大影響力的研究上，領先程度驚人」。
這份報告呼籲民主國家更常合作，以創造安全的供應鏈，並「加快腳步追求戰略關鍵科技的 升級」。
翻譯：元老院該加錢惹！ 結論：元老院，給我錢~~
这么牛啊，应该禁这些软件啊，中国直接崩溃了。搞芯片搞错方向了。白宫没请你做顾问耽误美国国运了。
美国教育的核心就是自私自利，快乐至上
你但凡在学术界混过就知道，老中教授最值钱的不是自己这个人有多少本事，而是自己能够两边跑；你能两边跑，才能做到两边一直同步更新，这才是你对党的价值所在。
因为学术是有生态圈的，早已不是个人单打独斗能搞定的时代。你再有能耐，不能两边同步，回国两三年被吃干抹净，就会像块抹布一样被扔掉；
西方媒体都是假新闻，没法看
再抓几个华人教授，剩下7个也会好起来的
软件涉及到国家安全当然会禁、你还在想着抄一抄就变成正版了，太开心了
没不好意思，既然不想做中国的生意，中国完全可以合法的玩盗版了，就像日本的动作电影商无论如何不能起诉中国网民一样，FBI警告也没有用。
中国牛啊。最近这20年高速发展。大家别做鸵鸟还盲目相信美国先进
超过个屁啊， 原子弹 在当时是世界顶尖科学 半导体 主要是产线太复杂了 一条线上千台设备 ..靠一个国家 短期内确实难以解决
在新兴行业，中国确实是碾压式的 半导体 属于传统行业 这个中国需要 相当大的努力
三十年前半导体制成遇到瓶口， EUV光源技术上高不可及。 在美军先进研究属DARPA的领导下， 加州大学及数个国家实验室和美国标准局合作加入攻关行列。DARPA的项目主持人是UCSD俩物理教授， 后出来创立光源公司cymer。今天EUV光源就美国能生产， 杀手锏级别的东西。
有了光源还要有透镜， 这是德国卡尔菜斯的绝活。 光源决定能否出活， 透镜关系到成品优良率。 对号入座， 前者是中科院高能所等的活， 后者是中科院众光机所的坎。中科院领导拍胸脯是有原因的。 除了光源透镜， 半导体生产线上还有无数数理化硬骨头。 在科技规划项目管理和实施上， DARPA是典范。我们今天手上玩的东西都有DARPA影子。
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithography
To address this scientific challenge, researchers at several United States Department of Energy (DOE) national laboratories (specifically Livermore, Berkeley, and Sandia) were funded in the 1990s to perform basic research into the technical obstacles. The results of this successful effort were disseminated via a public/private partnership Cooperative R&D Agreement (CRADA) with the invention and rights wholly owned by the US government, but licensed and distributed under approval by DOE and Congress.[6] The CRADA consisted of a consortium of private companies and the Labs, manifested as an entity called EUV-LLC. (长臂管辖的基础)
说句题外话， 这些国家实验室联邦科研机构人员中美国土著占绝大多数。 美国教育体系保证美国有这些人才， 关键时刻能攻关出活。再对号入座对比中美各层次现状， 马上可以看出中国的短板在哪。
看来培训要改进， 唱黑对手不能提高自己。 看看美军DARPA现在公开的两百多研究项目， https://www.darpa.mil/our-research， 几十年内美国科技还是绝对领先， 毫无悬念。 这些人基本是新生代美国土著，都靠同行衬托。不信可以亮亮国防工业科技局(前国防科委)在干啥。
到处都是骗子
北美全民都想当leader, 没人想当follower; 好处全被leader拿走了，哪个傻瓜想当follower? 很多leader根本不合格；
要看产业吧 国内产业的资本壮大后 也要保护自己的IP 早期土豆网bilibli可都是放盗版的美剧/日剧/动画起家 现在抓盗版下架翻译组成品比谁都凶
和国家实验室的研究人员聊聊就知道了，不少也是占着茅坑不拉屎擅长搞关系的，实在的活很多还是雇国外博后做的，现在五十岁的老美还有一批认真干活的，再往下的越来越少，全耍嘴皮子去了。
明年后就没问题了。。。
“不卖中国光刻机，大概3年后中国就能掌握！”这是在2021年中国企业未来发展论坛上，北大国发院名誉院长林毅夫，引用光刻机巨头荷兰阿斯麦CEO的话。
一看就是没文化的，软件最好替代了
既然这种事情双方都有好处，那应该鼓励才是。。。
不知道为啥中国政府强烈反对呢?
政府脑子进水了？
对国内科技业是个短期的打击 对国内芯片业是个长期的利好 一个国家有不同的声音难道不是很正常的吗？
短期肯定是打击的，谁被打都会疼一下，反击一下
你老娘早上把你从床上轰起来去上学， 你心里肯定也是骂骂咧咧的， 长期不一定是坏事
我站在美国的立场上，这美国现在的方法确实很烂，除非美国就在这几年对中国动手， 那么这个时间差就是神来一笔
我記一下這個啊。 2024 年中國高端芯片
這是你自己說的啊。看看明年如何。
不要打扰人家的春秋大梦🤔
呵呵，就看着这句话笑笑。咋替代啊，用盗版或者偷代码或者包装开源不算啊