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How U.S.-China Tensions Could Affect Who Buys the House Next Door

States are pursuing bills to bar Chinese citizens and companies from purchasing land. In Texas, legislation backed by Gov. Greg Abbott brought opposition from Democrats in the state’s growing cities and suburbs.
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Several dozen people stand in a plaza behind a barrier, carrying protest signs. A rally against Senate Bill 147, the bill to ban Chinese citizens from buying real estate in Texas, at City Hall in Houston.Credit...Go Nakamura for The New York Times J. David Goodman

By J. David Goodman
Feb. 7, 2023 Updated 10:39 a.m. ET

HOUSTON — After a Chinese billionaire with plans to create a wind farm bought up more than 130,000 acres of Texas land, some of it near a U.S. Air Force base, the state responded with a ban on such infrastructure projects by those with direct ties to China.
Now, a Republican state senator is proposing to broaden the ban, seeking to stop Chinese citizens and companies from buying land, homes or any other real estate in Texas. Gov. Greg Abbott announced his support last month: “I will sign it,” he wrote without equivocation on Twitter.
His endorsement underscored just how important foreign land ownership, particularly by Chinese buyers, has become as a political issue, not just in Texas but across the country.
Tensions have been rising between the United States and China over a range of issues, including international trade, recognition of Taiwan and the war in Ukraine. On Friday, Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken abruptly canceled a planned weekend trip to China — the first by a U.S. secretary of state since 2018 — after the discovery of what U.S. officials described as a Chinese surveillance balloon drifting over the American heartland. (On Saturday, a U.S. fighter jet shot down the balloon off the coast of South Carolina.) ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story
The geopolitical strain has fueled calls for a more aggressive approach to Chinese investments in the United States with an eye on security.
“We don’t want to have holdings by hostile nations,” Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said in a news conference last month. Gov. Glenn Youngkin of Virginia made it part of his State of the Commonwealth speech soon after, urging lawmakers in his state to prevent “dangerous foreign entities” tied to the Chinese government from purchasing farmland.
Dig deeper into the moment. Special offer: Subscribe for $1 a week for the first year. Chinese owners have very slowly expanded their holdings in U.S. agricultural land in recent decades, but the increasingly hostile political climate has made the topic a rising concern, with at least 11 states considering some form of new legislation related to foreign ownership of farmland or real estate, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
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Some of the new and proposed laws go beyond targeting Chinese nationals to broadly take aim at ownership by all foreign governments, businesses and new immigrants. Other laws, like the one under consideration in Texas, single out countries seen as particular security threats, including Russia, Iran and North Korea, in addition to China. Image Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas, wearing a blue jacket and red tie, gestures as he speaks. Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said he would back a proposed real estate ownership ban, which would apply to citizens, government entities and companies from China, Russia, Iran and North Korea.Credit...Emil Lippe for The New York Times Nor are Republican lawmakers the only ones challenging foreign land ownership. In California, a bill to rein in foreign ownership of farmland passed both Democratically controlled houses last year. The bill’s sponsor, Senator Melissa Hurtado, a Democrat, said it was an effort to stop the purchases while trying to better understand the motivation behind them. “Something doesn’t smell right,” she said in an interview. Other Democrats, including in Congress, have proposed legislation to increase the oversight of foreign agricultural land purchases.
The Chinese Spy Balloon Showdown The discovery of a Chinese surveillance balloon floating over the United States has added to the rising tensions between the two superpowers. A Diplomatic Crisis: How did a Chinese balloon end up triggering a high-stakes dispute between Washington and Beijing? “The Daily” takes a look at the tense saga. Xi’s Leadership: The balloon flap has raised concerns about how Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s government wields its power in a climate where one wrong move could set off a conflict. Another Balloon: The Chinese government confirmed that a second surveillance balloon floated over Latin America and the Caribbean, adding that it was for civilian purposes. Previous Incursions: This was not the first spy balloon from China to be detected passing over the United States. A top military commander said that, during the Trump administration, some balloons were initially classified as “unidentified aerial phenomena,” or U.F.O.s. Lawmakers have expressed concern over the security of the nation’s food supply and worry that several land purchases were deliberately made near American military bases. Late last month, the U.S. Air Force weighed in on a Chinese company’s purchase of a corn mill in North Dakota, not far from a base, declaring it a “significant threat.”
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Though the government did not specify the nature of the threat, beyond “near- and long-term risks of significant impacts to our operations in the area,” community leaders speculated that the mill could be used for spying on the Air Force, which the company denied.
State Senator Lois W. Kolkhorst, the sponsor of the Texas bill, said in a statement that foreign land ownership had become an issue in her district, a mostly rural area stretching west and south of Houston.
“One of the top concerns for many Texans is national security and the growing ownership of Texas land by certain adversarial foreign entities,” Senator Kolkhorst said, referring to the Chinese purchase of the land near an Air Force base near Del Rio, Texas, for a proposed wind farm.
But the legislative push, while in some cases bipartisan, has largely brought opposition from Democratic elected leaders. The California bill was vetoed by Gov. Gavin Newsom. In Texas, Democratic leaders said the broad measure now before the Legislature appeared to be prompted more by a rising anti-China political environment than by any legitimate concern over espionage or foreign ownership of the food supply. ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Image Texas State Representative Gene Wu stands at a podium surrounded by several other people, one of them holding an enlarged photo of the Wu family home. “It is a one-word change to add your country,” said Texas State Representative Gene Wu, a Houston Democrat, leading a rally against the proposed foreign ownership ban at City Hall. Mr. Wu was born in Guangzhou, China, and immigrated to Texas with his family as a child.Credit...Go Nakamura for The New York Times The bill as currently written would make it impossible for the large number of Chinese immigrants who have come to work in the tech sector or study at Texas universities to do something as basic as buy a home. It would not affect those who already own such property.
“Through the years I have helped a lot of Chinese immigrants purchase their homes in Houston, and a lot of them had been working toward their citizenship for years,” Kevin Yu, a green card holder and a real estate agent in Houston, said at a protest. “These people can be engineers, medical doctors, accountants and teachers.” The proposed bill in Texas, he said, would “take American dreams away from these people, including my family.”
A 2021 census survey estimated that about 150,000 foreign-born Chinese are living in Texas, a larger population than any of the other nationalities targeted by the proposed ban.
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Protesters have rallied against the bill in Houston and Dallas in recent weeks, saying that the legislative efforts could worsen the climate of anti-Asian violence and could be easily extended to include other immigrant groups.
State Representative Gene Wu, a Houston Democrat, said he supported laws targeting foreign corporations with ties to the government from buying certain property. “That’s fine,” said Mr. Wu, who was born in Guangzhou, China, and immigrated to Texas with his family as a child. “But the difference is this bill. This bill attacks individuals, private people with no connections with other governments other than being from that country.” Image Several people at a protest hold up signs, including one that says “Equal Right to Buy and Sell.” A rally at City Hall in Houston against Senate Bill 147, which would bar Chinese citizens from buying real estate in Texas.Credit...Go Nakamura for The New York Times Lawyers with the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas who are watching the bill’s progress said the measure was likely to run afoul of the federal government’s prerogative to manage relations with other nations, and that it was unconstitutional.
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story “The discriminatory bill would prohibit members of our communities from participating in the Texas economy, including dual citizens and legal permanent residents, such as green card holders,” said David Donatti, a lawyer with the A.C.L.U. of Texas.
Some legal scholars were also skeptical. “Such a bill would raise a host of constitutional issues,” said Stephen I. Vladeck, a constitutional law professor at the University of Texas. Because the measure does not distinguish between targeting people who are already here and those outside the United States, he said, it raises “serious due process and equal protection issues.”
In response to an inquiry from The New York Times, Senator Kolkhorst said in a statement that she would amend her bill “to include a provision that will make crystal clear that the prohibitions do not apply to United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.”
That would mean, presumably, that Chinese green card holders would be entitled to buy property but more recent immigrants, or those on temporary work visas, would not.
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story The emerging battle over the bill in Texas comes amid rising attention, particularly from Republicans but also from Democrats, to the role of Chinese-owned companies in American life, including bans in several states on the use of the Chinese-owned social media platform TikTok on many college campuses and government devices.
But the issue presents complicated crosscurrents. For example, at the same time that Mr. Abbott is backing the sweeping ownership ban on real estate purchases, Texas has also celebrated the state’s “strong economic relationship with China,” including billions of dollars in direct investment by Chinese companies. The share of United States farmland owned by Chinese people and companies is small and has not been growing substantially. Chinese owners held about 350,000 acres at the end of 2020, according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture report, and most of the farmland came from the Chinese acquisition of Smithfield Foods in 2013. Canadian owners, by contrast, held 12.4 million acres.
The figures do not include residential or commercial buildings, though that has largely not been the focus of most legislative efforts. Chinese investors are among the top foreign purchasers of residential real estate, along with Canadians, according to the National Association of Realtors.
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story Other states have had concerns over foreign ownership of land and have made efforts to regulate it. Some states, including Minnesota and Iowa, have enacted bans on foreign ownership of agricultural land, and a larger number place restrictions on such purchases. The Oklahoma Constitution limits land ownership to U.S. citizens. Those laws, unlike the proposal in Texas, do not single out citizens of particular countries.
In Canada, a sweeping ban on foreign ownership of residential property went into effect this year — a move that the country’s liberal leadership said was aimed at curbing soaring housing prices.
However, the proposed ban in Texas, endorsed by Mr. Abbott, appears to go further than the laws adopted in other U.S. states, both in applying to all “real property” — including urban buildings or condominium apartments — and in applying its provisions not only to the governments of certain countries but also to their citizens.
During its last session, in 2021, the Texas Legislature barred companies from the same list of countries targeted in the new proposed law from winning contracts that relate to “critical infrastructure” in the state, including the electricity grid, water treatment plants, and cybersecurity and communications systems.
ADVERTISEMENT Continue reading the main story That bill came in response to the plan by the Chinese billionaire, Sun Guangxin, to construct a wind farm that would have connected to the Texas electricity grid. The bill passed with bipartisan support in the State Senate, and Mr. Abbott signed it. A representative of Mr. Sun did not respond to a request for comment.
Last month, more than a hundred people joined the rally against the latest proposal on the steps of Houston City Hall, a diverse coalition that included local officials and members of Congress.
“This is wrong,” Mayor Sylvester Turner said, standing at the rally with Mr. Wu, who grew up in a house his parents purchased after immigrating to Texas but before they became citizens.
“This could be my family’s home, this could be yours,” the mayor said, pointing to an image of the home, in an area of the city now represented by Mr. Wu. More in U.S. A 66-year-old woman was declared dead at the Glen Oaks Alzheimer’s Special Care Center in Urbandale, Iowa. She was later found alive at a funeral home. A Patient Declared Dead Is Found in a Body Bag Gasping for Air Noah David Beard was one of two suspects arrested early Friday and charged with killing six members of a family in a small California town last month. Two Men Arrested in Execution-Style Killings of a Family in California Continue reading the main story A hunter found a human skull near the Porcupine River in Alaska in 1997. Investigators recently determined it was the remains of Gary Frank Sotherden, who was last seen in the area in 1976. Skull Found in Alaska Is Linked to New York Man Missing Since 1976 Editors’ Picks Alyssa Latney in the Maryland suburbs outside Washington, where she recently bought her first home. With a budget of around $325,000, she hoped to find a three-bedroom house, preferably with off-street parking and a fenced backyard for her dog. Space for entertaining was also a priority. She Became a Broker to Buy Her Own House Near Washington, D.C. Which Did She Choose?
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饿
只禁签证不禁绿卡和公民的说法就很可笑,我以后买房,还要带着绿卡和护照,去证明我有资格买?凭什么??
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happy3001
只禁签证不禁绿卡和公民的说法就很可笑,我以后买房,还要带着绿卡和护照,去证明我有资格买?凭什么??
饿 发表于 2023-02-07 21:29

以后亚洲脸买房都得带个良民证,证明自己非中国公民。不然怎么执行。
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ca563
只禁签证不禁绿卡和公民的说法就很可笑,我以后买房,还要带着绿卡和护照,去证明我有资格买?凭什么??
饿 发表于 2023-02-07 21:29

现在办绿卡要多少年啊
千渔千寻
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12年+
月亮另一面
长此以往,估计办绿卡也会使绊子。终于有主流媒体发声了。
玉骨遥
放弃幻想。海盗猴子是永远靠不住的。
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purplelavender
只禁签证不禁绿卡和公民的说法就很可笑,我以后买房,还要带着绿卡和护照,去证明我有资格买?凭什么??
饿 发表于 2023-02-07 21:29

买房时需要提供各种资料,身份信息一定要的
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Heiniu
赞组织和参加游行的休斯顿华人同胞
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crazyHat
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瞎扯淡,你买过房么?
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AnjiaToronto
自己的权力自己挣,这是正当的行为,我们都要学会这么做。 加油!
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sweetme
买房时需要提供各种资料,身份信息一定要的
purplelavender 发表于 2023-02-07 23:14

扯淡,除了id,哪里要求过其他东西
月亮另一面
只针对中国这几个国家就是违反了平等原则。 现在不去争取权利,以后怕是蹬鼻子上脸,工作升职,孩子升学都会被暗地里使绊子甚至于明目张胆歧视你。
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Perseus2000
以后亚洲脸买房都得带个良民证,证明自己非中国公民。不然怎么执行。
happy3001 发表于 2023-02-07 21:32

事实上执行不易,因为法律上没法说看你亚洲脸就查国籍,白人脸就不查。执行的话大概是两种,要么出示护照或出生纸(美国人大部分无护照),要么self-declare
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Ruth
事实上执行不易,因为法律上没法说看你亚洲脸就查国籍,白人脸就不查。执行的话大概是两种,要么出示护照或出生纸(美国人大部分无护照),要么self-declare

Perseus2000 发表于 2023-02-08 00:38

我20多年买房的时候是要自我声明居美身份的,title company 的表格,没有要证据。
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cable
回复 2楼饿的帖子
为什么只针对中国公民,除非所有外国人一刀切,否则这就是歧视。
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ismajia
权利需要自己去争取,没人给你。相反,不去争取,现有的也会被剥夺,SB147就是一个例子。
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Silverwing
政府给歧视一个 norm 民间会比政府多走2步 跟你竞争买房的人几乎就可以对着你的亚洲脸说, 滚蛋 说错了也就是“我以为你是中国人” 怎么着,美国护照要挂在脖子上么?
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VMC
事实上就是,这个(以及类似的)提案的推动者,明摆着是在针对中国与中国人,在利用/挑动周围民众的反华意识 - 当然,要较真的话,你可以说他们只是针对不是美国籍的中国人,但这种敌意与反感,与具体的法案本身不同,没有那么明确的界定,也不可能要求人人都明白”我的敌意是具体针对这种中国人的“。
所以,就是要给这种人迎头痛击。能找到他们什么漏洞,就针对什么漏洞。比如,能把他们的行为与歧视联系起来,那么就针对这个反击他们。如果他们的行为有其他漏洞,一样要抓要挑。这种人骨子里就对中国人有敌意,他们的任何成功,都是在为今后他们针对中国人增添资本。而他们的任何失败,都是在打击他们今后针对中国人的能力。
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kinston
还是得看左媒。 FoxNews会关心么?他们恨不得落井下石吧? 希望这件事能让反智的黄右清醒一下。
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nutrilite
还是得看左媒。 FoxNews会关心么?他们恨不得落井下石吧? 希望这件事能让反智的黄右清醒一下。
kinston 发表于 2023-02-08 09:25

关键是NYT这篇也写的酸酸的,暗戳戳的hostility
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VMC
关键是NYT这篇也写的酸酸的,暗戳戳的hostility
nutrilite 发表于 2023-02-08 09:30

美国政坛对中国的敌意一向存在,不同时候程度不同而已,这个很难改变。
我们能做的,只是在某些政客表现的过分了,行为出现漏子了的情况下,集中力量反击一把而已。想在整体上改变这种状况,不容易。
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peterpdf
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我的底线是改成购房时签一个协议证明不会用于某些国家政府相关机构的用途。 要么就禁止所有外国人买房。或者所有外国人买房都需要提前申请clearance,哪怕这个clearance明显针对中国人也行,但至少程序层面要一致
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skybluries
看到主流媒体发声了,要不现在新闻播报的还是少
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wonaiwangerxiao
事实上就是,这个(以及类似的)提案的推动者,明摆着是在针对中国与中国人,在利用/挑动周围民众的反华意识 - 当然,要较真的话,你可以说他们只是针对不是美国籍的中国人,但这种敌意与反感,与具体的法案本身不同,没有那么明确的界定,也不可能要求人人都明白”我的敌意是具体针对这种中国人的“。
所以,就是要给这种人迎头痛击。能找到他们什么漏洞,就针对什么漏洞。比如,能把他们的行为与歧视联系起来,那么就针对这个反击他们。如果他们的行为有其他漏洞,一样要抓要挑。这种人骨子里就对中国人有敌意,他们的任何成功,都是在为今后他们针对中国人增添资本。而他们的任何失败,都是在打击他们今后针对中国人的能力。
VMC 发表于 2023-02-08 09:24

非常赞同这个观点。即使外嫁我也觉得这火不去灭它迟早烧到我家头上。

(但是为了后代长治久安,鼓励娃娶白人是对后代最大的保障。推测人类存续期间,昂格鲁撒克逊人凭着嘴上一套人权平等行为保持猎人本性将一直占据人类食物链顶端)
公用马甲8
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太赞了!
平明寻白羽
看后面读者评论就明白了,民意支持。政客更要开足马力往这个方向走了。
卷卷妞妞
After a Chinese billionaire with plans to create a wind farm bought up more than 130,000 acres of Texas land, some of it near a U.S. Air Force base, the state responded with a ban on such infrastructure projects by those with direct ties to China. 开篇就这么写啦,后面作者不管怎样混淆政府,普通人,华人各种概念,读者都不会在意了。很难得到华人以外的人支持。
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Saladin
自己的权力自己挣,这是正当的行为,我们都要学会这么做。 加油!
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crazyHat
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说白了。左右两派都不待见华人,然后华人还内部撕逼。有时候真的觉得…
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bububu
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bububu
回复 28楼卷卷妞妞的帖子
说白了。左右两派都不待见华人,然后华人还内部撕逼。有时候真的觉得…
crazyHat 发表于 2023-02-08 14:36


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awen
Twitter这篇文章下面的评论是一片叫好,认为应该ban
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crazyHat
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一龙已经把twitter变成保守派的信息茧房了
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manibear
赞组织和参加游行的休斯顿华人同胞
Heiniu 发表于 2023-02-07 23:22

大家辛苦啦👍