目前是临时的，马上就会改的。三月会有正式的guideline。 The Treasury in December said it would not issue proposed guidance on battery sourcing rules until March, effectively giving some EVs not meeting new requirements a few months of eligibility in 2023 before the battery rules take effect and drawing outrage from Senator Joe Manchin. It reiterated the timeline Friday.
这消息和以前一样啊。 North America Final Assembly and MSRP Requirements Vehicle make/models that appear in the list below do not automatically qualify. They must also Have undergone final assembly in North America Not exceed a manufacturer suggested retail price (MSRP) of $80,000 for vans, sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks$55,000 for other vehicles
这消息和以前一样啊。 North America Final Assembly and MSRP Requirements Vehicle make/models that appear in the list below do not automatically qualify. They must also Have undergone final assembly in North America Not exceed a manufacturer suggested retail price (MSRP) of $80,000 for vans, sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks$55,000 for other vehicles
三月新guidance分下面两部分，Battery Components部分$3,750应该不是问题，美国产的Tesla车电池都在北美assembled。有疑问的部分是怎样界定Critical Minerals的$3,750。 Critical Minerals: To be eligible for the $3,750 critical minerals portion of the tax credit, the percentage of the value of the battery’s critical minerals that are extracted or processed in the United States or a U.S. free-trade agreement partner or recycled in North America, must increase according to the following schedule: Year Critical minerals minimum percent value requirement 2023 40% 2024 50% 2025 60% 2026 70% 2027 and later 80% Battery Components: To be eligible for the $3,750 battery components portion of the tax credit, the percentage of the value of the battery’s components that are manufactured or assembled in North America must increase according to the following schedule: Year Battery components minimum percent value requirement 2023 50% 2024 and 2025 60% 2026 70% 2027 80% 2028 90% 2029 and later 100%
网页没变：https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/manufacturers-and-models-for-new-qualified-clean-vehicles-purchased-in-2023-or-after 有个今天的更改日期：Page Last Reviewed or Updated: 03-Feb-2023 改了一些SUV的认定，之前很多车型包括Model Y五座都不算
eta：tesla已经更新网站了，所有80k以下的model Y 都qualify
说的好像退税limit提高了一样
2022 的车都可以
退了重买？
自己看IRS官方信息：
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/manufacturers-and-models-for-new-qualified-clean-vehicles-purchased-in-2023-or-after
目前是临时的，马上就会改的。三月会有正式的guideline。 The Treasury in December said it would not issue proposed guidance on battery sourcing rules until March, effectively giving some EVs not meeting new requirements a few months of eligibility in 2023 before the battery rules take effect and drawing outrage from Senator Joe Manchin. It reiterated the timeline Friday.
这消息和以前一样啊。
North America Final Assembly and MSRP Requirements Vehicle make/models that appear in the list below do not automatically qualify. They must also Have undergone final assembly in North America Not exceed a manufacturer suggested retail price (MSRP) of $80,000 for vans, sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks $55,000 for other vehicles
关键在于5座Y算不算SUV. 目前是不算的。
去年买的应该能少亏一些钱了？如果收入超了，本来不能退税，降价亏了$12500，现在能补回$7500
而且去年年底降价过$7500，所以应该是更便宜了
五座model Y满足所有条件，为啥不算？
三月会有新guidance，包括电池必须满足要求，不是说三月后就不算了。大概率不会变，因为特斯拉电池也满足条件。
我也不懂为何不算。特斯拉网站目前还是说五座要55k一下才qualify。和以前消息一样。
是说去年底买的也能退税了？没有收入限制？
意思是2022年底买的Model Y可以申请2023的退税$7500, 并且没有AGI限制?
哪位大神confirm下, 多谢🙏
IRS今天早上才改的规定，特斯拉没来得及更新。现在趁这个价格不赶紧下单的人才是真傻，接下来别说降价，Y不涨价都有人信吗？
特斯拉电池供应商不是松下，LG，宁德时代和BYD么 电池条件是怎么满足的？
因为2023年也有可能买到2022年款的，不是说2022买车符合条件，之前买的就别想了
不买就等着马上涨价回去吧。AGI超线的人太多了，之前不符合退税的很多人都上的Y Performance
IRS网站查了一下，不行，虽然没有收入限制，但是特斯拉的销售限额没有取消。
多谢，明白了
三月新guidance分下面两部分，Battery Components部分$3,750应该不是问题，美国产的Tesla车电池都在北美assembled。有疑问的部分是怎样界定Critical Minerals的$3,750。
Critical Minerals: To be eligible for the $3,750 critical minerals portion of the tax credit, the percentage of the value of the battery’s critical minerals that are extracted or processed in the United States or a U.S. free-trade agreement partner or recycled in North America, must increase according to the following schedule:
Year Critical minerals minimum percent value requirement 2023 40% 2024 50% 2025 60% 2026 70% 2027 and later 80%
Battery Components: To be eligible for the $3,750 battery components portion of the tax credit, the percentage of the value of the battery’s components that are manufactured or assembled in North America must increase according to the following schedule:
Year Battery components minimum percent value requirement 2023 50% 2024 and 2025 60% 2026 70% 2027 80% 2028 90% 2029 and later 100%
本来也不是刚需lol
现在选择越来越多了 我更喜欢eqs或者etron 内饰更细腻
特斯拉网站更新了，不出一周必涨价！
具体改的啥规定能放个link吗？我看的IRS网页和以前没有区别啊
eta：看到你放的tesla新网页了谢谢 能不能还是放个IRS链接
网页没变：https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/manufacturers-and-models-for-new-qualified-clean-vehicles-purchased-in-2023-or-after
有个今天的更改日期：Page Last Reviewed or Updated: 03-Feb-2023
改了一些SUV的认定，之前很多车型包括Model Y五座都不算
低收入才有7500
看到了，tesla下面改了，谢谢
那只是因为特斯拉还没来得及更新信息吧，IRS今天刚改的限额。
嗯嗯，楼主update了现在特斯拉已经更新了
这个说得很模糊了，估计不一定都有$7500 全额退税。或者只有$3500 ？
家庭收入不到30万的买8万块的小车？hmmm，特粉都是yolo的干活啊。
有啊 收入限制还是一样的
涨得比你说还快，Model Y long range 立马涨了$1500，现在$54990了
这有什么，大把不到30万买100万房子的，人只活一次这么对不起自己
大聪明，恭喜你成功把刚需人群忽悠成韭菜，现在他们硬生生要多付1500
Model Y和Model 3接下来只会不停涨价，直到把7500完全吃回去甚至更多。之前全线大降价仅仅是因为要让Model Y符合那个人为的55000上限，导致更便宜的Model 3也只能跟着降价。现在上限加了25000回去，资本家会采取什么行动还用想吗，你是不是觉得资本家和你一样傻。。。
很多人就是喜欢被情绪支配，人家说一句韭菜就不敢下手了。未来一两年，特斯拉车价和股价都会只升不降，话放这里了，下手越晚越亏
买tesla车是刚需？呵呵
有人买5M的房子是刚需，有人买特斯拉是刚需，不是说你买不起就认为别人没有刚需，呵呵
买过特斯拉的以后基本只会买特斯拉，就像用苹果的很少会转回安卓
这倒是，本来一直用android 十几年，换了苹果以后再也不想用android
不可能
特斯拉的订单在IRS改规则前那么不利的情况下已经是产能两倍了，接下来订单只会更多，再晚几周买，提车时间延迟几个月到一年没悬念。去年需求下降只是因为很多人在等着今年买才能退税，就那样Q4财报还能吊打一众车厂。还有人幻想继续降价？你说话前有看过这个行业的数据吗？
笑死了，买特斯拉是刚需？买一辆送一个Henry M Gunn High入学指标？多买多送？
现阶段电车只有特斯拉能买，加上有特斯拉的家庭下一辆车不出意外也会是特斯拉，这些人的买车刚需就是买特斯拉刚需，也只有特斯拉开两三年还能比原价高卖掉
看看各大dealer有多少trade in特斯拉的再发表你的言论显得更有知识一点