大家的英语口语水平怎么样?

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justice
我觉得口语好,不只是简单的交谈问答。是有一定程度的长时间的聊天。因为是聊天,还需要背景知识,才能进行稍微深度的交流。
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Sweetbitter
用词准确很重要,要流利还有语速,两个词之间要连接起来读,不能像中文那每个字吐出来。还有名词动词形容词要读重,连词读轻。虽然道理懂,真的说出来有时就忘记了。
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chopincminor
我个人觉得,语音语调尽力就好,不用过分纠结。
熟练掌握较为丰富的中高级词汇短语句式,能准确流利得表达好的内容,重要多了。
公司开会,一个很优秀的印度同事介绍项目,条理清晰,逻辑严谨,既有high-level 描述,又有details, 最后还有 insights/lesson learned。他虽然有口音,但是遣词造句都非常棒,逻辑好,准确,流利,还时不时有几个高级词汇,也许比大部分美国人语言掌控能力都好。不得不说,好的内容 + 好的表达能力,非常打动人, 哈哈。

jenniezz 发表于 2022-12-08 07:15

很多印度人口才比普通美国人好的确是事实
就要美美的
我吵架时英文最好。 而且闺女和我吵架时中文最好。 所以吵架时是最高水平的。
我刚来美国时口语很差,现在的工作是需要大量交流的,能做的很少有中国人 。多年来一直听英语广播,休闲阅读大量英语书籍,我听力和阅读应该就是本土水平了,平时感觉不到听读不懂的 词,用英语聊起天来天南地北,和用中文聊天没有区别不过一直有口音,写作有时候犯语法错误,但是做这个需要大量说写英语的工作没问题,最近还觉得书面正式书写能力比以前强了。
想写博客,拿不定主意是写中文还是英语。觉得英语文采应该比中文差多了
本来一直觉得自己口语不是那么的好,看看这个帖子才发现自己快呆在中国人的顶层了。楼主居然都没有为我们这种人立一个选项
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-08 17:30

估计你年纪比较大,小留口语好的很多,老留口语相比小留来说,少一些。主要外语是个童子功,小留从小有条件学习。 来了美国以后英文口语进步不进步,主要是和工种有关。举例吧,一般的工程师口语就不行,一般的发考题需要给学生上课的口语相比普通工程师肯定好一些。

就要美美的
很多印度人口才比普通美国人好的确是事实
chopincminor 发表于 2022-12-09 00:25

遇到的印度人只要受过高等教育的,英语普遍都比美华强,他们口音虽然重,词汇量不是一个等级的,毕竟人家从小到大童子功,英语学校十几年磨出来的。 他们说英语不用思考,张口就来
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Confuse
凡觉得自己阅读是本土水平的要不要测一下自己的阅读速度,美国大学生平均阅读大学文科教科书的速度是一小时七十页。大家看看自己能做到吗?
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linne
凡觉得自己阅读是本土水平的要不要测一下自己的阅读速度,美国大学生平均阅读大学文科教科书的速度是一小时七十页。大家看看自己能做到吗?
Confuse 发表于 2022-12-09 01:29

这个不一定准,很多人有看没有懂,自己还不知道,误会自己看懂了。 直接去做题SAT 大学程度,GRE 研究生程度,最准了,出题目的人,都是美国文科里面厉害的教授。
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Confuse
这个不一定准,很多人有看没有懂,自己还不知道,误会自己看懂了。 直接去做题SAT 大学程度,GRE 研究生程度,最准了,出题目的人,都是美国文科里面厉害的教授。
linne 发表于 2022-12-09 01:34

你说的是阅读理解,我说的是阅读速度。至于理解,我们就假设正常理解范围就好。我GRE几乎满分,但阅读速度远不如美国人。我想看看这些觉得自己已经跟老美一个水平的测一下。
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winonay
不好,只有和人吵架的时候最好,因为没时间想。吵赢就停机了。
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herolover
没有比第一个更低的? 公司开会只能听懂1/3。
xiaotudou 发表于 2022-12-07 19:50

请问你怎么保住工作的?
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IronFlower
口语都说跟老美八卦练出来的,疫情以后加上wfh说英文机大大减少,有时候感觉舌头都卷不起来了。
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pwwq
口语都说跟老美八卦练出来的,疫情以后加上wfh说英文机大大减少,有时候感觉舌头都卷不起来了。
IronFlower 发表于 2022-12-09 04:40

手机 Teams
想八卦有的是机会

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dngdnhxqs
凡觉得自己阅读是本土水平的要不要测一下自己的阅读速度,美国大学生平均阅读大学文科教科书的速度是一小时七十页。大家看看自己能做到吗?
Confuse 发表于 2022-12-09 01:29

嗯,母语的阅读速度是很厉害的,有的文本,可能差别不大,有的文本可是天壤之别。
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Cortana
估计你年纪比较大,小留口语好的很多,老留口语相比小留来说,少一些。主要外语是个童子功,小留从小有条件学习。 来了美国以后英文口语进步不进步,主要是和工种有关。举例吧,一般的工程师口语就不行,一般的发考题需要给学生上课的口语相比普通工程师肯定好一些。


就要美美的 发表于 2022-12-09 00:52

说的不错。我是来美国以后才开始说英语,错过关键时机真是千难万难,20年来兢兢业业练口语,没什么可吹嘘的,就是持之以恒才到今天闲聊吵架开会叽叽嘎嘎不停说的地步,仍然会犯语法错误,仍然有口音。
听读写也一样,都是花了大量时间力气才到了今天这个地步。 和工作关系不大,是生活方式问题。你想学就会调整生活方式。
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dngdnhxqs
回复 113楼Cortana的帖子
来美国前不说,还是学都没有过呢?
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Cortana
回复 113楼Cortana的帖子
来美国前不说,还是学都没有过呢?
dngdnhxqs 发表于 2022-12-09 17:38

从小学开始学英语,只有读写,进了大学开始听力,来了美国开始口语。
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dngdnhxqs
回复 115楼Cortana的帖子
哦哦!
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hushuobadao
有很多多人自己觉得自己口语好,其实烂的要死。口语好的标志在于你表达符合老美的习惯,business language该用的时候就必须用,没有口音。听得懂和没有语法错误都是最基本的,跟口语好差的远着呢,有些人就是井底之蛙。
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Cortana
有很多多人自己觉得自己口语好,其实烂的要死。口语好的标志在于你表达符合老美的习惯,business language该用的时候就必须用,没有口音。听得懂和没有语法错误都是最基本的,跟口语好差的远着呢,有些人就是井底之蛙。
hushuobadao 发表于 2022-12-09 18:01

照你的标准,口音浓重的印度英语是下三滥了? 美国人都承认印度英语好得很。
天天和各国人英语交流,这居然还和井底之蛙能扯上关系。
你愿意踩别人随你便,你的标准有什么意思呢? 美国人觉得我英语不错,我能用自己辛辛苦苦学来的英语做我想做的工作,赚钱交朋友就行。
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m口罩sk
说的不错。我是来美国以后才开始说英语,错过关键时机真是千难万难,20年来兢兢业业练口语,没什么可吹嘘的,就是持之以恒才到今天闲聊吵架开会叽叽嘎嘎不停说的地步,仍然会犯语法错误,仍然有口音。
听读写也一样,都是花了大量时间力气才到了今天这个地步。 和工作关系不大,是生活方式问题。你想学就会调整生活方式。
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-09 17:21

👍。你是系统性的练习,还是就是有心多说随意型?多分享一些吧。
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Pelosi
有很多多人自己觉得自己口语好,其实烂的要死。口语好的标志在于你表达符合老美的习惯,business language该用的时候就必须用,没有口音。听得懂和没有语法错误都是最基本的,跟口语好差的远着呢,有些人就是井底之蛙。
hushuobadao 发表于 2022-12-09 18:01


没机会说英语啊
另外也懒得说英语啊
另外也没兴趣
欧洲语言里, 我最厌恶的就是学英语
感觉其他任何欧洲语言都比英语有意思

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WebConsole

没机会说英语啊
另外也懒得说英语啊
另外也没兴趣
欧洲语言里, 我最厌恶的就是学英语
感觉其他任何欧洲语言都比英语有意思


Pelosi 发表于 2022-12-09 18:31

问一下啊,欧洲哪门语言容易学,法语和西语哪个容易点?
烤肉和凉皮
从国内半路的来的,没有没有口音的,口音轻重之别,即使ABC有口音的也大有人在,难不成都是不好?
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hushuobadao
照你的标准,口音浓重的印度英语是下三滥了? 美国人都承认印度英语好得很。
天天和各国人英语交流,这居然还和井底之蛙能扯上关系。
你愿意踩别人随你便,你的标准有什么意思呢? 美国人觉得我英语不错,我能用自己辛辛苦苦学来的英语做我想做的工作,赚钱交朋友就行。
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-09 18:17

美国人承认阿三的英语好?你是真不懂老外的虚伪还是你自己天真?阿三所谓的英语好只是跟其他族裔相对的,你要把咖喱英语硬说成好你自己高兴就行。你把老美虚伪的恭维当真这智商也是没谁了,有种你发个视频上来让瓜民们看看你倒是有多好。
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Cortana
美国人承认阿三的英语好?你是真不懂老外的虚伪还是你自己天真?阿三所谓的英语好只是跟其他族裔相对的,你要把咖喱英语硬说成好你自己高兴就行。你把老美虚伪的恭维当真这智商也是没谁了,有种你发个视频上来让瓜民们看看你倒是有多好。
hushuobadao 发表于 2022-12-09 19:04

看看你这充满种族歧视的腔调!连人家印度人英语好都不肯承认。而你本人很可能就是一嘴没法见人的chinglish ,躲在屏幕后面张牙舞爪评论别人的英语。
你爱怎么看不重要,反正你的标准 根本不会影响任何人。 这个讨论根本不重要,我为什么需要你的批准? 就好像我不需要在这里贴智力测验结果来证实我女儿高智商一样,我也不需要在这里证明自己,
祝你英语好到跟人吵架能吵赢!
实际上我碰见过几个英语天赋惊人的中国人,完全听不出任何口音,腔调就是正宗美国英语,我佩服得五体投地,我这种辛辛苦苦提高英语的跟他们比望尘莫及,奇怪这些人怎么没有在这里发言。
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impressionist88
第一句花就读不下去了 -- Allow me to show off and say that both my English listening and speaking skills are significantly better than the third option you listed.
你这生硬的水平连普通烙印都不如。
TTeeeee 发表于 2022-12-08 00:53

It's embarrassing to read her English translation... full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness...
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Cortana
It''''s embarrassing to read her English translation... full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness...
impressionist88 发表于 2022-12-09 20:26

实际上我觉得这个帖子气氛有问题。我觉得每个人学外语都需要很多鼓励,就好像跑步一样,跑的好的不是嘲笑跑的不好的,而是鼓励,因为学外语发音不好写的不好首先自己就会自卑,根本不需要别人提醒,而鼓励宽容的环境是学习语言必须的。 这个帖子里不少发言都在努力证明别人英语不够好,感觉非常负面,意在让人自卑而不是帮助提高。
很多美国人相当宽容,以自己可以听懂各种口音和连猜带蒙听懂外国人英语为荣。所以我和非中国人说英语最放松也最流利,和中国人说最紧张所以也容易犯错误。
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xuexuan
你说的是阅读理解,我说的是阅读速度。至于理解,我们就假设正常理解范围就好。我GRE几乎满分,但阅读速度远不如美国人。我想看看这些觉得自己已经跟老美一个水平的测一下。
Confuse 发表于 2022-12-09 02:45

这个也得分读啥,大学那个科目。历史地理这种读起来不太需要费脑子的自然快。要整个哲学,莎士比亚文学那种就慢太多了…或者说有思想深度,和平白的事实,理解起来的差距太大。有的书一小时也就能看个十几页,有读书一小时可以扫个几十页。
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impressionist88
实际上我觉得这个帖子气氛有问题。我觉得每个人学外语都需要很多鼓励,就好像跑步一样,跑的好的不是嘲笑跑的不好的,而是鼓励,因为学外语发音不好写的不好首先自己就会自卑,根本不需要别人提醒,而鼓励宽容的环境是学习语言必须的。 这个帖子里不少发言都在努力证明别人英语不够好,感觉非常负面,意在让人自卑而不是帮助提高。
很多美国人相当宽容,以自己可以听懂各种口音和连猜带蒙听懂外国人英语为荣。所以我和非中国人说英语最放松也最流利,和中国人说最紧张所以也容易犯错误。
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-09 20:31

She said her English is sooooo good in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness like I said...
I don't think she needs encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
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tinytoy
She said her English is sooooo good in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness like I said...
I don''''t think she needs encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
impressionist88 发表于 2022-12-09 21:10

She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来得structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
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impressionist88
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38

I am not trying to get into an English competition with anyone. I talk with a lot of Gen Z and sooooo good is just common.
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impressionist88
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38

also requires is off context here. in need of is probably better
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Cortana
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38

谁的英语会flawless呢?我跟不少美国人谈过这个英语问题,实际上英语语法和中国语法非常不同,中文犯语法错误就很难理解整个句子,所以中国人不犯中文语法错误,英语犯了语法错误不影响理解,所以美国人都犯语法错误。
不知道这里有多少人在美国上过口语课。老师说口音不重要,腔调节奏最重要,正是因为这个原因印度人的英语被美国人认为很好
爱游泳的猫
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38

requires?总感觉你用在这里属于Chinglish,为什么不用简单的needs呢?谁给扫盲一下require到底怎么用,我学的都是日常简单英语,对require这个词一直困惑,跟request经常用混
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tinytoy
requires?总感觉你用在这里属于Chinglish,为什么不用简单的needs呢?谁给扫盲一下require到底怎么用,我学的都是日常简单英语,对require这个词一直困惑,跟request经常用混
爱游泳的猫 发表于 2022-12-09 22:37

我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来得structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
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tinytoy
谁的英语会flawless呢?我跟不少美国人谈过这个英语问题,实际上英语语法和中国语法非常不同,中文犯语法错误就很难理解整个句子,所以中国人不犯中文语法错误,英语犯了语法错误不影响理解,所以美国人都犯语法错误。
不知道这里有多少人在美国上过口语课。老师说口音不重要,腔调节奏最重要,正是因为这个原因印度人的英语被美国人认为很好
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-09 22:36

我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来的structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
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绿葱
感觉楼主的分类是已经会英语, 熟练使用的程度。 其实按生活需求应该这样分 1 能看懂路标,看懂报纸广告, 自己出去买东西付钱, 解决基本生活需要 2 工作需要的基本英语, 面对面解决不公,比如商店多收钱了 3 能自己去看病, 说得清病情,听得懂医生说的 4 打电话为自己求公正,比如被商家坑了, 保险公司扯皮 5 能跟邻居聊天, 不用很深入 一般国内来的父母做不到第一点, 很多不工作配偶做不到第二点, 有些工作过的也做不到第三点,
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Cortana
感觉楼主的分类是已经会英语, 熟练使用的程度。 其实按生活需求应该这样分 1 能看懂路标,看懂报纸广告, 自己出去买东西付钱, 解决基本生活需要 2 工作需要的基本英语, 面对面解决不公,比如商店多收钱了 3 能自己去看病, 说得清病情,听得懂医生说的 4 打电话为自己求公正,比如被商家坑了, 保险公司扯皮 5 能跟邻居聊天, 不用很深入 一般国内来的父母做不到第一点, 很多不工作配偶做不到第二点, 有些工作过的也做不到第三点,
绿葱 发表于 2022-12-09 22:53

和别人英语深入聊天一小时以上是什么水平?
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impressionist88
requires?总感觉你用在这里属于Chinglish,为什么不用简单的needs呢?谁给扫盲一下require到底怎么用,我学的都是日常简单英语,对require这个词一直困惑,跟request经常用混
爱游泳的猫 发表于 2022-12-09 22:37

require主语是物 request主语是人
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impressionist88
我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来的structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 22:51

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感觉楼主的分类是已经会英语, 熟练使用的程度。 其实按生活需求应该这样分 1 能看懂路标,看懂报纸广告, 自己出去买东西付钱, 解决基本生活需要 2 工作需要的基本英语, 面对面解决不公,比如商店多收钱了 3 能自己去看病, 说得清病情,听得懂医生说的 4 打电话为自己求公正,比如被商家坑了, 保险公司扯皮 5 能跟邻居聊天, 不用很深入 一般国内来的父母做不到第一点, 很多不工作配偶做不到第二点, 有些工作过的也做不到第三点,
绿葱 发表于 2022-12-09 22:53

看病是有点难,主要是词汇量,很多医学的词不一定知道,常见的病还好一点。
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感觉楼主的分类是已经会英语, 熟练使用的程度。 其实按生活需求应该这样分 1 能看懂路标,看懂报纸广告, 自己出去买东西付钱, 解决基本生活需要 2 工作需要的基本英语, 面对面解决不公,比如商店多收钱了 3 能自己去看病, 说得清病情,听得懂医生说的 4 打电话为自己求公正,比如被商家坑了, 保险公司扯皮 5 能跟邻居聊天, 不用很深入 一般国内来的父母做不到第一点, 很多不工作配偶做不到第二点, 有些工作过的也做不到第三点,
绿葱 发表于 2022-12-09 22:53

我爸妈可以自己在家附近的商店或者农民市场(讲英文的)买简单的grocery,如果商店收错钱也能指出来。能自己去看他们的PCP,说得清病情,听得懂医生说的(医生以前国内山东医科大学的)。能跟邻居说一句how are you,人家回她就听不懂了。他们俩都不会说英文。
如果我们住在法拉盛,你说的所有问题都能用中文解决。
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Cortana
看病是有点难,主要是词汇量,很多医学的词不一定知道,常见的病还好一点。
Sweetbitter 发表于 2022-12-10 10:36

医疗工作者和病人打交道的原则一直是尽可能不要专业词汇,用最日常的方式解释和询问疾病。看个病只需要你用口音解释头疼脑热
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(I am a little bored tonight:)
Allow me to show off and say that both my English listening and speaking skills are significantly better than the third option you listed.
Very occasionally, I will turn blank on a word. Otherwise I could understand the meanings with no problem. If there is a word that I don't know during conversation, I will immediately repeat the word, ask what it means. and get a clear definition back
The same is true for watching movies and TV - there is almost no dialogues that I couldn't understand. But the problem with watching movies and TV dramas is that if a word I don’t know pops up, I can’t just ask the screen - that will be silly. But if there are people around me, then, voila, problem solved.
As for understanding humor and the meaning of puns, of course you need to understand all the implication and "colors" of the words on top of the literal meaning,
In terms of speaking, my routine is that once I start, my brain will automatically switch to the English mode - everything is processed in English. There is no hesitation in expressing myself.
I have to be honest: English is not my mother tongue - I can't compete with ABCs or kids came to the United States before the age of seven or eight, or even before the age of ten. I still have a little bit of accent - can't compare with those with no accent at all
Then, there are also writing and other aspects, including the speed of writing, etc. I guess that compared with those kids, I am even more behind
zd206 发表于 2022-12-07 23:58

第一句的 my English listening and speaking skills 更地道的说法是 my comprehension skills
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Cortana
第一句的 my English listening and speaking skills 更地道的说法是 my comprehension skills
facet 发表于 2022-12-10 15:28

后者是书面语了,普通人口语很少用
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第一句的 my English listening and speaking skills 更地道的说法是 my comprehension skills
facet 发表于 2022-12-10 15:28

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Sugercake
我看很多人高估自己了,工作中接触国人不多,还没见过真正语言好的。男的基本结结巴巴,女的能说点,但口音重。当然,都是中年人,估计20-30多的可能好些
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受条件所限,我们这代出国的极少英语尤其英语口语好的,初中才开始ABC学起,老师不过是大专毕业,自己口音都很重课本也念不流利,语法词汇都是死记硬背,大学时条件好点可以去英语角可以去外国人多的酒吧鼓起勇气乱聊(对,我以前就是那种见到外国人都凑上去聊两句那种),和新一代有资源从小看外国电影很不一样。
在鄙视老留英语时想想我们的条件,不要judge
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Cortana
受条件所限,我们这代出国的极少英语尤其英语口语好的,初中才开始ABC学起,老师不过是大专毕业,自己口音都很重课本也念不流利,语法词汇都是死记硬背,大学时条件好点可以去英语角可以去外国人多的酒吧鼓起勇气乱聊(对,我以前就是那种见到外国人都凑上去聊两句那种),和新一代有资源从小看外国电影很不一样。
在鄙视老留英语时想想我们的条件,不要judge
Fhu 发表于 2022-12-10 18:15

没错啊! 一个人12岁以后语言的潜力已经被固定下来了,其后再学外语是十分困难的事情。我们这整整一代接受的是糟糕透顶的中式英语教育,来了美国才真正接触英语大环境,每个人都应该骄傲自己对环境包括语言的调试能力。天天贬低别人算什么本事
嘲笑别人英语不好跟打老婆一样是令人不齿的。
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cibeijixiangruyi
谁的英语会flawless呢?我跟不少美国人谈过这个英语问题,实际上英语语法和中国语法非常不同,中文犯语法错误就很难理解整个句子,所以中国人不犯中文语法错误,英语犯了语法错误不影响理解,所以美国人都犯语法错误。
不知道这里有多少人在美国上过口语课。老师说口音不重要,腔调节奏最重要,正是因为这个原因印度人的英语被美国人认为很好
Cortana 发表于 2022-12-09 22:36

我认为腔调节奏不重要 主要是我们在国内只学书面英语 把书面英语当口语说 说话的方式 和地道美式英语不同 看看一下这些日常美国电视对话 说话的表达方式和我们在国内学的有很多不同
farm living is the light for me lands spreading out so far and wide keep manhattan just give me that countryside no new york is where i'd rather stay i get allergic smelling hay i just adore a panther's view darling i love you but give me park avenue,the chores,the stars,fresh air aren't you going to give me a kiss did you see one thing is for sure you're not a sax fiend you always used to kiss me on the lips yes but now these are lips  i think you have them on upside down i do where's the mirror lisa have you seen my gray suit  what does it look like gray,got a little pinstripe and he says spaghetti sauce on the lapel that's the one it's in the washing machine i told you to have a dry clean  well i didn't put any water in there just soap out lisa for crying out oh look leave my clothes alone after this good morning folks are you ready to uh oh you had your suit dry cleaned came out good look yeah there ain't no more spaghetti spots on the lapels and you were complaining of course i was are you two gonna stand there arguing we're wasting time we gotta go go where to drucker's store fought for don't you know what today is oh mail day what is that well every year about this time mr drucker cleans out his post office and finds all the old mail that's fallen down behind the counter or gotten stuck in the back of a drawer or fell through the cracks in the floor and he gives it out to whoever it belongs to
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cibeijixiangruyi
更多美国电视剧 日常情景对话 说话的方式和我们说的就有很大区别 印度人说的就好多了 尽管印度人每个单词发音并一定准确 但是和英美人口语交流就容易多了
say we didn't miss the old mail date ceremonies did we  no sir you're the first ones here me i assist you oh thank you don't gone if you don't look as pretty as a chipmunk in a sack of chestnuts oliver did you hear that i heard it but it doesn't make any sense if will rogers had said it you would have applauded possibly now  would you please close the door so that i can park the car if you get out i'll be glad to park it for you oh thank you for one dollar i'll park it myself over there [Music] that'll be two dollars for what parking i've got the concession i'm not paying anything this is a public street parking is free suit yourself you want to give me eight dollars now or when they tow your car away if anybody touches this car dog gone you're as grouchy as a congressman with a desk full of grunion you can applaud that's one will rogers did say bye oh hi rob howdy duty may i be the first to wish you a happy old mail day oh thank you i can hardly wait to see what goodies i'm gonna get last old mail day i got a valentine from richard burton you got a it was returned i didn't put enough postage on it [Music] well that was a lucky break for liz yeah i might have busted them up yeah yeah i'm sure it would have hi mr douglas mrs douglas ah it's not mrs douglas oh no i guess it isn't who is it it's ralph monroe hi hanky been up to any panky good luck kimbo friends um mr drucker said he'll be out in a few minutes for the old mail day ceremony ceremony uh mr drucker wants to know if you got your bug what's a buggle don't go away uh lisa would you please tell mr drucker that's a buggle if you do that again ralph i'll promise douglas happy old mail day yes uh hello had the ceremony started yet oh no not yet well i thought i heard somebody blow the bugle it's not a buggle it's a bugle does that sound like a bugle to you ralph if you don't quit now what's the matter with him you've got your car parked where he always parks his bicycle folks folks could i have your attention please the old mail day ceremony is about to begin ralph could we have a fanfare on your bundle oh yes sir thank you bring out the old mail here you are now for the benefit of those who have never witnessed an all-male day ceremony i'd like to explain just what old mail day is oh yes i know you know what it is but there's people here that don't old mail day is a day i clean out my store and my post office and gather together all the old mail that's gone astray or been misplaced or temporarily lost now up to now the oldest letter i found has been dated 1942. that's 26 years ago yep and i'm happy to tell you that that record has been broken fred would you read the postmark on this letter addressed to you august 12 1917 that's over 50 years ago yeah i found it behind a case of eight button spats which will go on sale immediately following this ceremony dog gone what is it mr zifa i've been drafted drafted says right here that i am to report to camp yep hank not later than august the 28th and it's signed by woodrow wilson oh hey here's a letter for you found it when i drained a pickle barrel and here's one for you ebb god oh this is for arnold zippel i've been using it to prop up the short leg on my table mr douglas i need some legal advice uh this year's a threatening letter from the wpa the wpa they've been out of existence for now they say they're gonna sue me unless i return their shovel can they do that how can they do mr douglas here's a letter for you and you see you didn't want to come hey this was mail almost a year ago yeah it fell in the flower barrel the weevils didn't get it did they is that from your mother it's from my stock broker this is to inform you that since we did not receive an answer to our letter of january 4th we're closing out your margin account oh i didn't receive a letter from them what was that date again uh january the 4th oh here we are do you know what this means i've lost 300 you shouldn't carry that much money around with you i didn't don't panic we'll help you find it was it 300 all in one bill no this so-called post office is a farce if the mail were delivered it wouldn't get lost what i want to know is why it isn't delivered to whom to us but why should we get everybody's mail i didn't mean everybody mr douglas the reason a mail isn't delivered is because this is a class 3nb substation the nd stands for no delivery can we change that and have it delivered well i like it like it is kept me out of the draft yes but got me an eight dollar shovel but i lost 300 well if anybody finds it i'm sure they'll turn it in mr douglas i i wouldn't mind delivering the mail except i'm too busy you see this post office is just an accommodation for my customers well couldn't you hire somebody to deliver the mail for you yeah if we could get them to change the classification from a 3nd to a 2mthd now that stands for a post office with a mailman to help deliver why don't we have it changed i'll write a letter to the postmaster general why don't you leave well enough alone mr ziffle the american farmer didn't get where he is today by leaving well enough alone when a change was needed he was the first to step forward and demand action he fired the first shot at concord and when the wind eroded his soil in a dust bowl he was the first to move on to greener pastures and when the floods came he didn't stand there in the paths of the raging waters he swam to higher ground and started all over the american farmer oliva yes the american farmer oliver what how long are you going to go on talking to yourself everybody left including the five player [Music] you're not really going to ride that ladder are you yes i am my not only once the post office changed except you do they all want it they're just too lazy to make the effort now where did i put that what my portable typewriter what does it look like
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cibeijixiangruyi
看看Friends的情景对话 和我们学的口语有很多区别
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cibeijixiangruyi
Here is another funny sitcoms

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cibeijixiangruyi
another funny moment

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Dwar
水平一般
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Dwar
带点方言
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Dwar
我普通话也撇脚
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bilibiniu
还好
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bilibiniu
正常沟通没有问题
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cibeijixiangruyi
how i met your mother
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Dawnatwindow
这个我也说不好具体时间。
就是某一天突然意识到,我说中文时,脑子里就全是中文,一旦说英语,感觉中文那个闸门就自动关上了,无缝切换成英语。
当然这中间经历过很长一段时间。我本人的情况是,刚出国时,我完全听不懂人家说什么,看电视电影更是完全听不懂,看纸面的东西要好不少,毕竟国内读书时,书面英语也有不不少年头了,但也读得磕磕碰碰的,而且读得慢。
我们当年,国内根本没有现在这个条件,网上可以下载各种原文语音资料,看美剧啥的,基本都是靠老师说,而老师的口语水平就别提了,口音就更差。
我猜我之所以后来有这么多进步有几点:
1. 我出来比较早一些,我的专业当时很少有国人,比如我们学校,我的同学中就我一个外国人,其他都是当地人。同学全都对我很好很热情,部分原因可能是对我还有些好奇?刚开始我因为语言障碍有些害羞,但同学很多都爱找我聊天,耐心听我的结结巴巴英文。
另外基本每个星期赶鸭子上架会跟他们去bar, 他们喝酒我喝饮料,硬着头皮跟他们聊天。另外我们的大部分作业,需要小组行动去采访,甚至需要自己组成小组拍一个短剧之类的,导演,编剧,演员都是我们自己当哈哈哈。
‘这些都逼着我有大量时间用英语沟通。
2· 我自己属于比较爱跟人打交道那种,遇到任何要办的事情,包括开账户,上保险等等,无论是当面,还是必须电话沟通,我都很来劲,不管别人能不能听懂,我就很愿意表达。
3. 即使看不懂任何电影电视剧节目,我每天也会强制自己看最少两到三个小时,电视节目的话不挑,广告,情景剧啥啥的,逮哪儿看哪儿。还清楚记得,刚开始花了很多钱,跟朋友去看电影,我每次集中精力用尽洪荒之力听了几分钟,就撑不住睡着了,直到终场被叫醒。
这样坚持了几个月(记不清了,3到5个月之间?),有一天发现,电视里不少地方,我都能听懂了。
4. 房东住在同一套房子,我们关系很好,经常跟房东聊天。
5. 读研时,作过两年的的大学中文课程助教。尤其暑假,每天上两个小时课,中间说中文的比例,最多10%,因为都是教最初级的,绝大部分时间必须说英文。另外学生特别爱提问,这也是训练自己的地方。
这些应该都是循序渐进的吧,应该每天都会有一点点弱小进步?大概七八年之后,就突然意识到,自己现在说英语,已经不会脑子里想中文然后翻成英语了。而是感觉一需要说中文,脑子里中文开关立马关掉,而英文开关也在同时打开了。


alloccupied 发表于 2022-12-07 20:32

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养貂的小昭
我觉得15岁以后来的美国,口语不可能没口音了吧 我上过口音课(老师不太行,把我一个其实没啥错的元音给纠正错了) 也找过传说中二战德国间谍纠正口音用的pathologist(据传说病理专家纠正过的发音,德国人进入英国根本没人听得出) 当然,老师也不太行.......... 后来我基本上就放弃了 有时候状态好的话能说一点挺好听的英语,状态不好的话连我自己都不想听