第一句花就读不下去了 -- Allow me to show off and say that both my English listening and speaking skills are significantly better than the third option you listed. 你这生硬的水平连普通烙印都不如。 TTeeeee 发表于 2022-12-08 00:53
It's embarrassing to read her English translation... full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness...
She said her English is sooooo good in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness like I said... I don't think she needs encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
She said her English is sooooo good in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness like I said... I don''''t think she needs encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... impressionist88 发表于 2022-12-09 21:10
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... 我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来得structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38
I am not trying to get into an English competition with anyone. I talk with a lot of Gen Z and sooooo good is just common.
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38
also requires is off context here. in need of is probably better
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth... tinytoy 发表于 2022-12-09 21:38
我爸妈可以自己在家附近的商店或者农民市场(讲英文的)买简单的grocery,如果商店收错钱也能指出来。能自己去看他们的PCP,说得清病情,听得懂医生说的(医生以前国内山东医科大学的)。能跟邻居说一句how are you,人家回她就听不懂了。他们俩都不会说英文。 如果我们住在法拉盛,你说的所有问题都能用中文解决。
(I am a little bored tonight:) Allow me to show off and say that both my English listening and speaking skills are significantly better than the third option you listed. Very occasionally, I will turn blank on a word. Otherwise I could understand the meanings with no problem. If there is a word that I don't know during conversation, I will immediately repeat the word, ask what it means. and get a clear definition back The same is true for watching movies and TV - there is almost no dialogues that I couldn't understand. But the problem with watching movies and TV dramas is that if a word I don’t know pops up, I can’t just ask the screen - that will be silly. But if there are people around me, then, voila, problem solved. As for understanding humor and the meaning of puns, of course you need to understand all the implication and "colors" of the words on top of the literal meaning, In terms of speaking, my routine is that once I start, my brain will automatically switch to the English mode - everything is processed in English. There is no hesitation in expressing myself. I have to be honest: English is not my mother tongue - I can't compete with ABCs or kids came to the United States before the age of seven or eight, or even before the age of ten. I still have a little bit of accent - can't compare with those with no accent at all Then, there are also writing and other aspects, including the speed of writing, etc. I guess that compared with those kids, I am even more behind zd206 发表于 2022-12-07 23:58
第一句的 my English listening and speaking skills 更地道的说法是 my comprehension skills
我认为腔调节奏不重要 主要是我们在国内只学书面英语 把书面英语当口语说 说话的方式 和地道美式英语不同 看看一下这些日常美国电视对话 说话的表达方式和我们在国内学的有很多不同 farm living is the light for me lands spreading out so far and wide keep manhattan just give me that countryside no new york is where i'd rather stay i get allergic smelling hay i just adore a panther's view darling i love you but give me park avenue,the chores,the stars,fresh air aren't you going to give me a kiss did you see one thing is for sure you're not a sax fiend you always used to kiss me on the lips yes but now these are lips i think you have them on upside down i do where's the mirror lisa have you seen my gray suit what does it look like gray,got a little pinstripe and he says spaghetti sauce on the lapel that's the one it's in the washing machine i told you to have a dry clean well i didn't put any water in there just soap out lisa for crying out oh look leave my clothes alone after this good morning folks are you ready to uh oh you had your suit dry cleaned came out good look yeah there ain't no more spaghetti spots on the lapels and you were complaining of course i was are you two gonna stand there arguing we're wasting time we gotta go go where to drucker's store fought for don't you know what today is oh mail day what is that well every year about this time mr drucker cleans out his post office and finds all the old mail that's fallen down behind the counter or gotten stuck in the back of a drawer or fell through the cracks in the floor and he gives it out to whoever it belongs to
更多美国电视剧 日常情景对话 说话的方式和我们说的就有很大区别 印度人说的就好多了 尽管印度人每个单词发音并一定准确 但是和英美人口语交流就容易多了 say we didn't miss the old mail date ceremonies did we no sir you're the first ones here me i assist you oh thank you don't gone if you don't look as pretty as a chipmunk in a sack of chestnuts oliver did you hear that i heard it but it doesn't make any sense if will rogers had said it you would have applauded possibly now would you please close the door so that i can park the car if you get out i'll be glad to park it for you oh thank you for one dollar i'll park it myself over there [Music] that'll be two dollars for what parking i've got the concession i'm not paying anything this is a public street parking is free suit yourself you want to give me eight dollars now or when they tow your car away if anybody touches this car dog gone you're as grouchy as a congressman with a desk full of grunion you can applaud that's one will rogers did say bye oh hi rob howdy duty may i be the first to wish you a happy old mail day oh thank you i can hardly wait to see what goodies i'm gonna get last old mail day i got a valentine from richard burton you got a it was returned i didn't put enough postage on it [Music] well that was a lucky break for liz yeah i might have busted them up yeah yeah i'm sure it would have hi mr douglas mrs douglas ah it's not mrs douglas oh no i guess it isn't who is it it's ralph monroe hi hanky been up to any panky good luck kimbo friends um mr drucker said he'll be out in a few minutes for the old mail day ceremony ceremony uh mr drucker wants to know if you got your bug what's a buggle don't go away uh lisa would you please tell mr drucker that's a buggle if you do that again ralph i'll promise douglas happy old mail day yes uh hello had the ceremony started yet oh no not yet well i thought i heard somebody blow the bugle it's not a buggle it's a bugle does that sound like a bugle to you ralph if you don't quit now what's the matter with him you've got your car parked where he always parks his bicycle folks folks could i have your attention please the old mail day ceremony is about to begin ralph could we have a fanfare on your bundle oh yes sir thank you bring out the old mail here you are now for the benefit of those who have never witnessed an all-male day ceremony i'd like to explain just what old mail day is oh yes i know you know what it is but there's people here that don't old mail day is a day i clean out my store and my post office and gather together all the old mail that's gone astray or been misplaced or temporarily lost now up to now the oldest letter i found has been dated 1942. that's 26 years ago yep and i'm happy to tell you that that record has been broken fred would you read the postmark on this letter addressed to you august 12 1917 that's over 50 years ago yeah i found it behind a case of eight button spats which will go on sale immediately following this ceremony dog gone what is it mr zifa i've been drafted drafted says right here that i am to report to camp yep hank not later than august the 28th and it's signed by woodrow wilson oh hey here's a letter for you found it when i drained a pickle barrel and here's one for you ebb god oh this is for arnold zippel i've been using it to prop up the short leg on my table mr douglas i need some legal advice uh this year's a threatening letter from the wpa the wpa they've been out of existence for now they say they're gonna sue me unless i return their shovel can they do that how can they do mr douglas here's a letter for you and you see you didn't want to come hey this was mail almost a year ago yeah it fell in the flower barrel the weevils didn't get it did they is that from your mother it's from my stock broker this is to inform you that since we did not receive an answer to our letter of january 4th we're closing out your margin account oh i didn't receive a letter from them what was that date again uh january the 4th oh here we are do you know what this means i've lost 300 you shouldn't carry that much money around with you i didn't don't panic we'll help you find it was it 300 all in one bill no this so-called post office is a farce if the mail were delivered it wouldn't get lost what i want to know is why it isn't delivered to whom to us but why should we get everybody's mail i didn't mean everybody mr douglas the reason a mail isn't delivered is because this is a class 3nb substation the nd stands for no delivery can we change that and have it delivered well i like it like it is kept me out of the draft yes but got me an eight dollar shovel but i lost 300 well if anybody finds it i'm sure they'll turn it in mr douglas i i wouldn't mind delivering the mail except i'm too busy you see this post office is just an accommodation for my customers well couldn't you hire somebody to deliver the mail for you yeah if we could get them to change the classification from a 3nd to a 2mthd now that stands for a post office with a mailman to help deliver why don't we have it changed i'll write a letter to the postmaster general why don't you leave well enough alone mr ziffle the american farmer didn't get where he is today by leaving well enough alone when a change was needed he was the first to step forward and demand action he fired the first shot at concord and when the wind eroded his soil in a dust bowl he was the first to move on to greener pastures and when the floods came he didn't stand there in the paths of the raging waters he swam to higher ground and started all over the american farmer oliva yes the american farmer oliver what how long are you going to go on talking to yourself everybody left including the five player [Music] you're not really going to ride that ladder are you yes i am my not only once the post office changed except you do they all want it they're just too lazy to make the effort now where did i put that what my portable typewriter what does it look like
agree
很多印度人口才比普通美国人好的确是事实
估计你年纪比较大,小留口语好的很多,老留口语相比小留来说,少一些。主要外语是个童子功,小留从小有条件学习。 来了美国以后英文口语进步不进步,主要是和工种有关。举例吧,一般的工程师口语就不行,一般的发考题需要给学生上课的口语相比普通工程师肯定好一些。
遇到的印度人只要受过高等教育的,英语普遍都比美华强,他们口音虽然重,词汇量不是一个等级的,毕竟人家从小到大童子功,英语学校十几年磨出来的。 他们说英语不用思考,张口就来
这个不一定准,很多人有看没有懂,自己还不知道,误会自己看懂了。 直接去做题SAT 大学程度,GRE 研究生程度,最准了,出题目的人,都是美国文科里面厉害的教授。
你说的是阅读理解,我说的是阅读速度。至于理解,我们就假设正常理解范围就好。我GRE几乎满分,但阅读速度远不如美国人。我想看看这些觉得自己已经跟老美一个水平的测一下。
请问你怎么保住工作的?
手机 Teams
想八卦有的是机会
嗯,母语的阅读速度是很厉害的,有的文本,可能差别不大,有的文本可是天壤之别。
说的不错。我是来美国以后才开始说英语,错过关键时机真是千难万难,20年来兢兢业业练口语,没什么可吹嘘的,就是持之以恒才到今天闲聊吵架开会叽叽嘎嘎不停说的地步,仍然会犯语法错误,仍然有口音。
听读写也一样,都是花了大量时间力气才到了今天这个地步。 和工作关系不大,是生活方式问题。你想学就会调整生活方式。
来美国前不说,还是学都没有过呢?
从小学开始学英语,只有读写,进了大学开始听力,来了美国开始口语。
哦哦!
照你的标准,口音浓重的印度英语是下三滥了? 美国人都承认印度英语好得很。
天天和各国人英语交流,这居然还和井底之蛙能扯上关系。
你愿意踩别人随你便,你的标准有什么意思呢? 美国人觉得我英语不错,我能用自己辛辛苦苦学来的英语做我想做的工作,赚钱交朋友就行。
👍。你是系统性的练习,还是就是有心多说随意型?多分享一些吧。
没机会说英语啊
另外也懒得说英语啊
另外也没兴趣
欧洲语言里, 我最厌恶的就是学英语
感觉其他任何欧洲语言都比英语有意思
问一下啊,欧洲哪门语言容易学,法语和西语哪个容易点?
美国人承认阿三的英语好?你是真不懂老外的虚伪还是你自己天真?阿三所谓的英语好只是跟其他族裔相对的,你要把咖喱英语硬说成好你自己高兴就行。你把老美虚伪的恭维当真这智商也是没谁了,有种你发个视频上来让瓜民们看看你倒是有多好。
看看你这充满种族歧视的腔调!连人家印度人英语好都不肯承认。而你本人很可能就是一嘴没法见人的chinglish ,躲在屏幕后面张牙舞爪评论别人的英语。
你爱怎么看不重要,反正你的标准 根本不会影响任何人。 这个讨论根本不重要,我为什么需要你的批准? 就好像我不需要在这里贴智力测验结果来证实我女儿高智商一样,我也不需要在这里证明自己,
祝你英语好到跟人吵架能吵赢!
实际上我碰见过几个英语天赋惊人的中国人,完全听不出任何口音,腔调就是正宗美国英语,我佩服得五体投地,我这种辛辛苦苦提高英语的跟他们比望尘莫及,奇怪这些人怎么没有在这里发言。
It's embarrassing to read her English translation... full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness...
实际上我觉得这个帖子气氛有问题。我觉得每个人学外语都需要很多鼓励,就好像跑步一样,跑的好的不是嘲笑跑的不好的,而是鼓励,因为学外语发音不好写的不好首先自己就会自卑,根本不需要别人提醒,而鼓励宽容的环境是学习语言必须的。 这个帖子里不少发言都在努力证明别人英语不够好,感觉非常负面,意在让人自卑而不是帮助提高。
很多美国人相当宽容,以自己可以听懂各种口音和连猜带蒙听懂外国人英语为荣。所以我和非中国人说英语最放松也最流利,和中国人说最紧张所以也容易犯错误。
这个也得分读啥,大学那个科目。历史地理这种读起来不太需要费脑子的自然快。要整个哲学,莎士比亚文学那种就慢太多了…或者说有思想深度,和平白的事实,理解起来的差距太大。有的书一小时也就能看个十几页,有读书一小时可以扫个几十页。
She said her English is sooooo good in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness like I said...
I don't think she needs encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
She said her English is absolutely flawless in Chinese and I almost believed in her. Her English is not bad in terms of vocabulary, but it is full of grammar mistakes and awkwardness as I said... It does not appear that she requires encouragement. She needs someone to tell her the truth...
我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来得structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
I am not trying to get into an English competition with anyone. I talk with a lot of Gen Z and sooooo good is just common.
also requires is off context here. in need of is probably better
谁的英语会flawless呢?我跟不少美国人谈过这个英语问题,实际上英语语法和中国语法非常不同,中文犯语法错误就很难理解整个句子,所以中国人不犯中文语法错误,英语犯了语法错误不影响理解,所以美国人都犯语法错误。
不知道这里有多少人在美国上过口语课。老师说口音不重要,腔调节奏最重要,正是因为这个原因印度人的英语被美国人认为很好
requires?总感觉你用在这里属于Chinglish,为什么不用简单的needs呢?谁给扫盲一下require到底怎么用,我学的都是日常简单英语,对require这个词一直困惑,跟request经常用混
我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来得structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
我是修改了一下原来楼里面得某人英语而已,她本来的structure就不好,还50步笑百步。。。
和别人英语深入聊天一小时以上是什么水平?
require主语是物 request主语是人
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看病是有点难,主要是词汇量,很多医学的词不一定知道,常见的病还好一点。
我爸妈可以自己在家附近的商店或者农民市场(讲英文的)买简单的grocery,如果商店收错钱也能指出来。能自己去看他们的PCP,说得清病情,听得懂医生说的(医生以前国内山东医科大学的)。能跟邻居说一句how are you,人家回她就听不懂了。他们俩都不会说英文。
如果我们住在法拉盛,你说的所有问题都能用中文解决。
医疗工作者和病人打交道的原则一直是尽可能不要专业词汇,用最日常的方式解释和询问疾病。看个病只需要你用口音解释头疼脑热
第一句的 my English listening and speaking skills 更地道的说法是 my comprehension skills
后者是书面语了,普通人口语很少用
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在鄙视老留英语时想想我们的条件,不要judge
没错啊! 一个人12岁以后语言的潜力已经被固定下来了,其后再学外语是十分困难的事情。我们这整整一代接受的是糟糕透顶的中式英语教育,来了美国才真正接触英语大环境,每个人都应该骄傲自己对环境包括语言的调试能力。天天贬低别人算什么本事
嘲笑别人英语不好跟打老婆一样是令人不齿的。
我认为腔调节奏不重要 主要是我们在国内只学书面英语 把书面英语当口语说 说话的方式 和地道美式英语不同 看看一下这些日常美国电视对话 说话的表达方式和我们在国内学的有很多不同
farm living is the light for me lands spreading out so far and wide keep manhattan just give me that countryside no new york is where i'd rather stay i get allergic smelling hay i just adore a panther's view darling i love you but give me park avenue,the chores,the stars,fresh air aren't you going to give me a kiss did you see one thing is for sure you're not a sax fiend you always used to kiss me on the lips yes but now these are lips i think you have them on upside down i do where's the mirror lisa have you seen my gray suit what does it look like gray,got a little pinstripe and he says spaghetti sauce on the lapel that's the one it's in the washing machine i told you to have a dry clean well i didn't put any water in there just soap out lisa for crying out oh look leave my clothes alone after this good morning folks are you ready to uh oh you had your suit dry cleaned came out good look yeah there ain't no more spaghetti spots on the lapels and you were complaining of course i was are you two gonna stand there arguing we're wasting time we gotta go go where to drucker's store fought for don't you know what today is oh mail day what is that well every year about this time mr drucker cleans out his post office and finds all the old mail that's fallen down behind the counter or gotten stuck in the back of a drawer or fell through the cracks in the floor and he gives it out to whoever it belongs to
say we didn't miss the old mail date ceremonies did we no sir you're the first ones here me i assist you oh thank you don't gone if you don't look as pretty as a chipmunk in a sack of chestnuts oliver did you hear that i heard it but it doesn't make any sense if will rogers had said it you would have applauded possibly now would you please close the door so that i can park the car if you get out i'll be glad to park it for you oh thank you for one dollar i'll park it myself over there [Music] that'll be two dollars for what parking i've got the concession i'm not paying anything this is a public street parking is free suit yourself you want to give me eight dollars now or when they tow your car away if anybody touches this car dog gone you're as grouchy as a congressman with a desk full of grunion you can applaud that's one will rogers did say bye oh hi rob howdy duty may i be the first to wish you a happy old mail day oh thank you i can hardly wait to see what goodies i'm gonna get last old mail day i got a valentine from richard burton you got a it was returned i didn't put enough postage on it [Music] well that was a lucky break for liz yeah i might have busted them up yeah yeah i'm sure it would have hi mr douglas mrs douglas ah it's not mrs douglas oh no i guess it isn't who is it it's ralph monroe hi hanky been up to any panky good luck kimbo friends um mr drucker said he'll be out in a few minutes for the old mail day ceremony ceremony uh mr drucker wants to know if you got your bug what's a buggle don't go away uh lisa would you please tell mr drucker that's a buggle if you do that again ralph i'll promise douglas happy old mail day yes uh hello had the ceremony started yet oh no not yet well i thought i heard somebody blow the bugle it's not a buggle it's a bugle does that sound like a bugle to you ralph if you don't quit now what's the matter with him you've got your car parked where he always parks his bicycle folks folks could i have your attention please the old mail day ceremony is about to begin ralph could we have a fanfare on your bundle oh yes sir thank you bring out the old mail here you are now for the benefit of those who have never witnessed an all-male day ceremony i'd like to explain just what old mail day is oh yes i know you know what it is but there's people here that don't old mail day is a day i clean out my store and my post office and gather together all the old mail that's gone astray or been misplaced or temporarily lost now up to now the oldest letter i found has been dated 1942. that's 26 years ago yep and i'm happy to tell you that that record has been broken fred would you read the postmark on this letter addressed to you august 12 1917 that's over 50 years ago yeah i found it behind a case of eight button spats which will go on sale immediately following this ceremony dog gone what is it mr zifa i've been drafted drafted says right here that i am to report to camp yep hank not later than august the 28th and it's signed by woodrow wilson oh hey here's a letter for you found it when i drained a pickle barrel and here's one for you ebb god oh this is for arnold zippel i've been using it to prop up the short leg on my table mr douglas i need some legal advice uh this year's a threatening letter from the wpa the wpa they've been out of existence for now they say they're gonna sue me unless i return their shovel can they do that how can they do mr douglas here's a letter for you and you see you didn't want to come hey this was mail almost a year ago yeah it fell in the flower barrel the weevils didn't get it did they is that from your mother it's from my stock broker this is to inform you that since we did not receive an answer to our letter of january 4th we're closing out your margin account oh i didn't receive a letter from them what was that date again uh january the 4th oh here we are do you know what this means i've lost 300 you shouldn't carry that much money around with you i didn't don't panic we'll help you find it was it 300 all in one bill no this so-called post office is a farce if the mail were delivered it wouldn't get lost what i want to know is why it isn't delivered to whom to us but why should we get everybody's mail i didn't mean everybody mr douglas the reason a mail isn't delivered is because this is a class 3nb substation the nd stands for no delivery can we change that and have it delivered well i like it like it is kept me out of the draft yes but got me an eight dollar shovel but i lost 300 well if anybody finds it i'm sure they'll turn it in mr douglas i i wouldn't mind delivering the mail except i'm too busy you see this post office is just an accommodation for my customers well couldn't you hire somebody to deliver the mail for you yeah if we could get them to change the classification from a 3nd to a 2mthd now that stands for a post office with a mailman to help deliver why don't we have it changed i'll write a letter to the postmaster general why don't you leave well enough alone mr ziffle the american farmer didn't get where he is today by leaving well enough alone when a change was needed he was the first to step forward and demand action he fired the first shot at concord and when the wind eroded his soil in a dust bowl he was the first to move on to greener pastures and when the floods came he didn't stand there in the paths of the raging waters he swam to higher ground and started all over the american farmer oliva yes the american farmer oliver what how long are you going to go on talking to yourself everybody left including the five player [Music] you're not really going to ride that ladder are you yes i am my not only once the post office changed except you do they all want it they're just too lazy to make the effort now where did i put that what my portable typewriter what does it look like
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