刚刚看了推特解雇信，被解雇的人在2023年二月份二号之前仍然是雇员，但是还算是 non-working employee，周五不是 last day 而是 last working day，真正的雇佣终止日期(separation date)是明年二月二号，在那天之前，仍然有福利 就这个条款，相比起咨询行业，金融行业和会计行业的大规模裁员计划，已经相当仁慈
Hahaha Twitter Inc., after laying off roughly half the company on Friday following Elon Musk’s $44 billion acquisition, is now reaching out to dozens of employees who lost their jobs and asking them to return. Some of those who are being asked to return were laid off by mistake, according to two people familiar with the moves. Others were let go before management realized that their work and experience may be necessary to build the new features Musk envision
Most of them have move up or out policies , meaning if you don’t get promoted within certain years, likely they will ask you to leave since most people will not last given the long hours and they usually do laid off if the quota is not met.
Deloitte cuts 5,000 jobs in US, consulting takes largest hit 03 June 2020 Consulting.us 2 min. read Profile Deloitte More news on Crisis Labour Market Deloitte US will lay off 5%, or approximately 5,000 workers, of its 106,000-strong workforce. The cuts were announced at the company on Friday morning, and will affect positions up to the level of partner. The layoffs will not be evenly split among business lines and practices, but instead will be tied to market projections. A source told website Going Concern that advisory and consulting will likely take a bigger hit in terms of layoffs than the tax and audit businesses. A tipster told Going Concern that Deloitte is projecting a 16% decrease in revenue for its advisory business in fiscal year 2021. Deloitte spokesman Jonathan Gandal told technology news site CRN that “in connection with our annual fiscal year-end financial planning and performance management processes, we are aligning our resources with our clients'' evolving needs.”Gandal added that “demand for our services continues to be strong and we are doing all that we can to minimize the impact on our people in this unprecedented environment.” Another tipster told Going Concern that, in addition to the 5% layoffs, an additional 1.5% of Deloitte employees will be furloughed or have their work hours reduced with reduced pay. The economic impacts of the coronavirus pandemic have caused many clients to reassess their budgets for large consulting projects. Social distancing regulations have also prevented many consulting firms from performing on-site work. Initial projections from Source Global Research in March estimate the North American consulting market will decline by 15% in 2020. Deloitte Canada last month laid off 200 consultants and auditors in its Toronto headquarters, also as part of a business needs forecasting procedure for the new fiscal year. The cuts amounted to approximately 1.6% of the firm''s 12,000-person workforce. Meanwhile, in Australia, 99% of KPMG''s employees accepted a 20% voluntary pay cut to help the Big Four weather the storm. The other trio of the Big Four have also announced a set of measures impacting their people.
就这个条款，相比起咨询行业，金融行业和会计行业的大规模裁员计划，已经相当仁慈
雇员大于50人的公司大规模裁员需要60天提前通知，否则违法。twitter是给了3个月工资，所以是被逼出来的
会计所都是私人的partnership 不需要公布裁员 但是圈子里都知道
见过，外包印度，会计部门裁了90%. 不是小公司
多了去了，而且是四大，年景不好的时候，几千人一个礼拜就消失了，周期性的，每一家都是如此
美国传统大公司裁员从来都是立即生效，无论华尔街还是其他地方，都是在接到通知即日起立刻终止雇佣关系，同时让你签一份放弃申诉的协议来换取 severance package，你可以选择不签去走劳动仲裁，但是不签就得放弃 package
所以我看到推家说可以保持雇佣关系，同时保险福利会延续到明年二月还是很惊讶
另外我不是推家的，也没有推号
这是法律规定，不是公司仁慈，比如纽约，一次性裁员超过500（我记得是500），必须提前90天通知，上次我老公公司大裁员超500多人，他就拿了三个月工资，福利，但不能去去上班，三个月后在根据工作年限，拿Severance Package, 各种福利正式终止，从Payroll 上除名。小规模裁员，就没这么好的待遇了。那次大裁员后，没被裁的也吓坏了，跳槽的人很多，后来不少被裁的又被招回去了
不是马工，我以前呆过的公司，这种cost reduction形式的裁人，也是差不多3个月后才生效。不知道是不是裁人比例没推家那么大的缘故，last working day也不是提前3个月，宣布之后，被裁的照样上班。当然，摸鱼找下家是很正常的。
每年都裁 Up or out 被拉小黑屋劝退
难道不是奴隶大裁员，而是奴隶主自裁？
twitter给两个月就行了。大多数公司也是这么干的。twitter多给一个月是自愿的。
其实IT业很多大公司都是这样，通知裁员后保持雇佣2个月才terminate employment，然后再给1-2个月的package
你这话说的特别对，绝大部分人都是奴隶，白领是在屋里伺候巴菲特一龙比尔盖茨这些奴隶主的，蓝领是在地里干活伺候奴隶主的。 大家子子孙孙世代为奴，小布什都富了五六代了，他那个傻样都能当总统。过几代大家的子孙还是在这些奴隶主的子孙手下苦扒苦业的挣命
年轻女孩如果出差不跟manager或者partner睡的话，很快就put on bench，半年没活儿就得走人。 所以男人尽量别找consulting公司的美女，consulting和投行一样，里面乱睡的
胡扯八道，真有这种张嘴就来的人
Up or out跟裁员不一样吧。具体咋劝退啊？是不是一般都给几个月让找工作
我好些朋友都是consulting的，里面partner睡经理，经理睡下面的associate，太多了。女的一旦结婚生子，就不给升值，被逼着去industry。美其名曰是因为有家庭，不能老出差，所以不适合consulting
哈哈哈哈 给你顶一个 真的受不了有些人了
你倒是说说哪家公司？哪家大咨询公司这样早被告倒闭了
那个人应该没有工作过。大家都知道下属如果和manager有任何不正当关系，可以告个天价出来，哪还需要继续被manager为了点薪水揉虐。
consulting和投行哪家不是这样？除非你长得丑没人搭理你。刚毕业没多久的年轻女孩被经理带着出差一周，住在酒店里很容易搞事情。女经理也是继续跟男partner睡，还跟下面新来的男associate睡。当然也不是都这样，但这个行业比别的行业乱太多了。男人没事别娶consulting公司美女。
蹲家大妈或者猥琐男，满嘴喷粪。你敢说哪家公司吗？
你是不是没在美国工作过？而且按照你的逻辑，consulting的男人也不能找啊，为什么光提不能找女人。
那是你见识不够多，2010年我被 Cigna 裁的时候，他们给我 1 month notice period 加上三个月的 severance package. 而且立马就不用上班，也可以立马 领unemployment . insurance included in the 1 month notice period.
你这个就搞笑了
你可以说现在的人都惯坏了，古代没空调没手机还不是活得好好的
是的，我们公司年初把整个会计部门都外包了，一下子裁了近两百人
太扯了， 投行裁员潮里走的最多的就是manager, 睡有何用
哈哈，精辟
Most of them have move up or out policies , meaning if you don’t get promoted within certain years, likely they will ask you to leave since most people will not last given the long hours and they usually do laid off if the quota is not met.
亲身经历的是如果来年promotion 没有你的名字，老板会劝你找个新的组，新的组喜欢你的话可以留下，但是这个很难，半年多时间没办法和组员竞争。 然后performance manager 就找你counsel out，开始是暗示你看谁谁谁走了找到了更好的工作，你还不能领会就塞一个苦脏累project 给差评，还不能领会你就再苦脏累呆着吧。 苦脏累结束了，不会给你新的project，utilization 开始降低，就可以开启PIP了。
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他說他是外星人 其實地球人有共識願意的話 最基本的吃穿勞力都無須煩惱 AI都可以解決 地球人要不要??
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哪些年？
？所以你睡了还是睡了别人
Deloitte cuts 5,000 jobs in US, consulting takes largest hit 03 June 2020 Consulting.us 2 min. read Profile Deloitte More news on Crisis Labour Market Deloitte US will lay off 5%, or approximately 5,000 workers, of its 106,000-strong workforce. The cuts were announced at the company on Friday morning, and will affect positions up to the level of partner. The layoffs will not be evenly split among business lines and practices, but instead will be tied to market projections. A source told website Going Concern that advisory and consulting will likely take a bigger hit in terms of layoffs than the tax and audit businesses. A tipster told Going Concern that Deloitte is projecting a 16% decrease in revenue for its advisory business in fiscal year 2021. Deloitte spokesman Jonathan Gandal told technology news site CRN that “in connection with our annual fiscal year-end financial planning and performance management processes, we are aligning our resources with our clients'' evolving needs.”
什么胡说八道的，生了嘴不是用来乱喷的。
咨询跟项目走，我孩子大学实习时在top几的公司做工程咨询，在DT的大building 里，毕业找工作时避开咨询。咨询就是好听，表面光鲜，但是不稳定，收入也不是很高。