别洗了! 底下这话哪里有 maybe?哪里有 probably? In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.” Fauci made this comment on an interview with 60 Minutes on March 8, during the early stages of the novel coronavirus outbreak in the United States. A longer extract of the interview is visible youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI (see 30-second mark). source: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks/fact-checkoutdated-video-of-fauci-saying-theres-no-reason-to-be-walking-around-with-a-mask-idUSKBN26T2TR 另外一个场合,他给自己找了个不推荐口罩的由头(全然忘记了当初医院不许医护戴口罩的事实) At the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, Fauci originally discouraged mask-wearing by the public because he was concerned about PPE availability for health-care workers. source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/washington-post-live/fauci-on-how-his-thinking-has-evolved-on-masks-asymptomatic-transmission/2020/07/24/799264e2-0f35-4862-aca2-2b4702650a8b_video.html 现在又变成不知道了?这人真是政客,没有什么可信的
美国医疗界太讲究evidence based medicine . 讲究这个到了一种缺乏常识的境界。 Evidence based 这样做平时是不错,但无法有效应对新的大流行这种缺乏evidence的情况。 等到积累了evidence的时候已经太晚了。 DiabloIV 发表于 2022-09-22 12:49
中国政府的高福什么的,早就发paper讲无症状感染了 高福3月的采访直接支出西方不戴口罩是严重错误 https://www.science.org/content/article/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says?cookieSet=1 Q: What mistakes are other countries making?A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren''t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you''ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.
美国医疗界太讲究evidence based medicine . 讲究这个到了一种缺乏常识的境界。 Evidence based 这样做平时是不错,但无法有效应对新的大流行这种缺乏evidence的情况。 等到积累了evidence的时候已经太晚了。 DiabloIV 发表于 2022-09-22 12:49
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早期不知人传人,不知气溶胶传播,不知道一波又一波,不知道戴口罩可以防传染……我记得这些在最早的时候板上就讨论了,难道说他们的信息真的没有华人灵光?!!! 我觉得他整个采访都说的挺好,就是觉得公共卫生这个层面实在太复杂。 感觉像他这种说法,好像这种瘟疫大流行基本就是无可避免的。
就知道是亚洲人的病, 与我欧美无关
日本人素质高,控制的最好了, 还死了好几万人。 欧美人自由散漫, 自私自利, 没办法。 唯一的方案大概是宣布国家为战争状态, 显然, 没有任何一个总统有胆识有远见这么做。
福奇的错误在于根本不懂 什么是 传染病,水平有钟南山的万分之一美国也不至于死这么多人。
呵呵
钟南山?那个到处给药品站台的?
不懂就虚心学习好了。还鼻子朝天的不接受反对意见。 对了,就这人这水平不停推疫苗的。打了针的心有余悸了吧。
别洗了! 底下这话哪里有 maybe?哪里有 probably?
In the clip, Dr Fauci says “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”
Fauci made this comment on an interview with 60 Minutes on March 8, during the early stages of the novel coronavirus outbreak in the United States. A longer extract of the interview is visible youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI (see 30-second mark).
source: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks/fact-checkoutdated-video-of-fauci-saying-theres-no-reason-to-be-walking-around-with-a-mask-idUSKBN26T2TR
另外一个场合,他给自己找了个不推荐口罩的由头(全然忘记了当初医院不许医护戴口罩的事实)
At the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, Fauci originally discouraged mask-wearing by the public because he was concerned about PPE availability for health-care workers.
source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/washington-post-live/fauci-on-how-his-thinking-has-evolved-on-masks-asymptomatic-transmission/2020/07/24/799264e2-0f35-4862-aca2-2b4702650a8b_video.html
现在又变成不知道了?这人真是政客,没有什么可信的
不知道个屁
不知道戴口罩有用
但是信誓旦旦知道戴口罩更糟糕,因为群众都是傻子,不会正确put on 口罩,会trap病毒在口罩里,会不停摸嘴摸脸,会更容易感染
自己说的这些话都忘了????
这些人以为我们都是金鱼
其实我觉得他知道
但是要装作不知道
扯
早起让大家不要戴口罩 戴口罩更糟糕的时候怎么不讲evidence based了
那时候有证据戴口罩更差吗?就敢说了。
拜登说感谢他
你是无知还是故意混淆视听?西方早已战胜病毒,连口罩都不需要戴了。土共到现在还大白横行,天天核酸,动不动就封城,一车一车的拉去方舱。这种铁腕手段造成的悲剧还少吗,多少人没有死于病毒反而死于铁腕防疫的。
Fauci不懂传染病?钟南山水平高?带货水平高吧!开口就乱讲话。
是的,CDC也好Fauci也好,早期完全无视中国头几个月用人头堆出来的观察和结论,对疫情的认知落后华人大妈三个月以上,难道不该负责任么?他们对疫情在美国的大面积蔓延和高危人群的大面积死亡负有渎职罪
他们就是太相信中国政府了,华人灵光是因为咱们宁相信谣言不相信政府。
中国政府的高福什么的,早就发paper讲无症状感染了 高福3月的采访直接支出西方不戴口罩是严重错误
https://www.science.org/content/article/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says?cookieSet=1
Q: What mistakes are other countries making? A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren''t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you''ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.
其实我也最觉得这一点不可思议,华人网站上的消息,居然真的比他们快,而且closer to the truth 居然真的就这样了… 想来觉得很悲哀,如果还有下次不进美国还会死多少人呢?有时想想这样的制度也不是完美的。
疫苗我个人觉得还好。risk 总是有,个人可以选择。
我先拉黑你为敬,谢谢。 窃以为自己笨拙。
就记得当时一波又一波的小丑跳出来说戴口罩无用。现在CDC,福奇都反水了。
当时医疗界主流观点是没有证据戴口罩有用,所以不用戴口罩,接着是没有证据证明是气溶胶传染,所以不要戴N95。这是当时美国医疗界的主流想法。当然媒体上报道的会有出入
这完全是说谎吧??不知道人传人那是还在国内传的时候,倒是说的过去。到美国的时候还说不知道人传人,那他们还不如普通人的common sense。 同意公共卫生确实很复杂,所以更应该每一个步骤都应该考虑好后果。隔几天就改变说法的,早就失去credit,这就已经带来很大的影响。
不觉得,戴口罩有用没用都换了好几遍了,哪是evidence based?
完全不是 当时说戴口罩更容易感染
医院不但不发口罩 医护自己买的口罩自己戴还要被医院开除的
福气自己不就是制造并传播misinfornation吗? 他还说???
华人上不都好多人觉得美国没有因为COVID而死的,COVID比感冒都轻,那些死的都是die with COVID,本来就会死,正好新冠阳性而已
做过research的人都知道,会犯错,而且错误还挺多的,关键是知错就改
福奇能力没问题
美国问题主要出在政府能力,出在民众素质
他哪会不懂,只是坏罢了
Fauci 把自己标榜为science, 对他有问题就是不相信science。这一下厉害了,他永远都不会有错,他就是science。
就你做过research,就你懂?
他是做research犯错吗 他是当众撒谎
做学术的dishonest还做个屁啊
被开除的命真好。直接在家躺平拿失业金还不用被感染,也不用被迫打疫苗。