正面的例子不给了，给点reddit上看到反面的例子吧。 Risk. It''s a new vaccine, too new to know much about long term risks or possible side effects. While this vaccine has, of course, been extensively tested for safety like any other vaccine would be, it has not been around long enough to give conclusive evidence that there is no risk for long-term side effects. Vaccines that have been around for decades (like the t-dap vaccine) have been improved over the years to ensure their safety. When side effects occurred, however rare, they were documented and researched in order to make the vaccine better. The HPV vaccine hasn''t been in use long enough to have this advantage. Is there really any benefit? The push for the HPV vaccine has been largely due to growing awareness about cervical cancer. While the truth is that some cases of cervical cancer may have stemmed from certain strains of HPV that went unresolved, the truth is that most cases of HPV self-resolve. It is also important to note that of the many different strains of HPV in existence, the HPV vaccine only protects against a select few. When you add all these factors, it becomes clear that the HPV vaccine will barely decrease (if at all, considering possible side-effects) your risk for developing cervical cancer.
Statistically it''s a very safe vaccine, but if you do experience side effects, they are quite severe. Swelling and headaches are the most common side effect. Hives or a rash are next. Difficulty breathing leading to unconsciousness is the most extreme side effect. There were reported cases of it causing new cases of narcolepsy, but there isn''t enough information to suggest whether the vaccine was the cause, or something else. Interestingly, the Japanese government has withdrawn support for Gardasil, based on these side effects and doctors are told to inform patients that it is not recommended to use. I believe the question was why NOT to get it with NOT in capital letter. It causes very serious side effects in 7-12% of people who are vaccinated (that''s about average of 1-10), as in paralysis or death. That is from CDC data. I know several countries banned it, and texas no longer made it mandatory. I had a classmate die from the vaccine in HS. Saw her on Friday in class, dead Saturday morning. I had a saturday detention, so I heard right after death. At least with cancer, you have time to say goodbye and make amends. Chance of dying from the cancer a lot less likely than that vaccine itself 8.1 / 100,000 (0.0081%) for cervical, and 2.4/100,000 (0.0024%) mortality rate. 只能自己判断了。不过经历过covid疫苗，我现在不太相信那些推荐疫苗的数据了，感觉有些医生科学家，跟销售一样，为了推自己相信的东西，说话是不严谨的，甚至根本不查证，想说什么说什么。就跟amazon的评论一样，我一般会看负评。
再贴个反疫苗的，现在反疫苗这个词应该是中性了吧，经过了新冠疫苗，反疫苗应该不再等于反智了吧。 Did you know that HPV clinical trials did not demonstrate that HPV vaccines prevent cervical cancer? A systematic review of HPV vaccine pre- and post-licensure trials found that “the claim that HPV vaccination will result in approximately 70% reduction of cervical cancers is made despite the fact that the clinical trials data have not demonstrated to date that the vaccines have actually prevented a single case of cervical cancer (let alone cervical cancer death), nor that the current overly optimistic surrogate marker-based extrapolations are justified. Likewise, the notion that HPV vaccines have an impressive safety profile is only supported by highly flawed design of safety trials and is contrary to accumulating evidence from vaccine safety surveillance databases and case reports which continue to link HPV vaccination to serious adverse outcomes (including death and permanent disabilities)...” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23016780 Sign up: https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/newsletter/
https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/health/why-has-the-controversy-around-the-hpv-vaccine-still-not-died-down-120021401998_1.html By the time the drive (or trial) was halted, 24,000 girls had been vaccinated, out of which eight had died. A government investigation in 2015 did not establish any link between the deaths and the vaccine. The vaccine, Gardasil, continued to be commercially available. 英国最近也有篇文章说防癌症的证据不明显，推荐大家还是靠pap来预防。
HPV不需要睡10个8个后才得。 如果自家的没打，对方也没打，两人都不是对方的唯一，过去有过性行为，1-3 partners in the last for both of them respectively，这种 scenario 基本上会感染 hpv 没跑了。 这种婚恋情况在二代ABC身上很普遍的，起码2个以上sex partners during their life time, 这还是算挺保守的生活方式了
HPV不需要睡10个8个后才得。 如果自家的没打，对方也没打，两人都不是对方的唯一，过去有过性行为，1-3 partners in the last for both of them respectively，这种 scenario 基本上会感染 hpv 没跑了。 这种婚恋情况在二代ABC身上很普遍的，起码2个以上sex partners during their life time, 这还是算挺保守的生活方式了 Slou9900 发表于 2022-07-12 22:38
你理解错了吧，这是预防宫颈癌的，不是性病。 唯一一种有效预防癌症的疫苗，为什么不打？
请先了解一下HPV，HPV 极易传染，condom 都难防住,美国HPV感染人群非常大，很多人可以是携带者但是没有任何症状却可以传染别人。
宫颈癌属于广义上的性病，宫颈癌病原HPV病毒是通过性行为染上的的
还没有足够的时间来证明终身有效，疫苗问世还不到20年，目前还没有recommendation 成年后何时再打booster, 但从现在的接种 schedule 看HPV疫苗管的时间还蛮长。
Hpv 伴随人类从早期进化到人类诞生，是最古老的病毒之一。除了极度保守的国家和地区和时代，地球上所有其他地方，hpv 都非常普遍，尤其是年轻到中年人群，好了得，得了再好
很好奇，不打疫苗怎么保护自己，难道一辈子不要sex？
这是教娃一辈子不要Sex吗？或者是说找个partner 也是一辈子只跟过一个人的。现在这个社会很难吧。
这个病毒感染上大概率就自己好了。
你确定吗 免疫系统好当然可以自己清除 但是碰到弱的时候呢 宫颈癌病人都是怎么来的 梅艳芳不也是宫颈癌去世的吗 大概率不等于所有的
女性基本只会通过性接触感染，男的感染途径比较多，结构的关系。就算女的一辈子一个伴侣，对方也只有她一个伴侣，也很难完全保证不感染。 不打疫苗只能赌基因，有些人感染了身体能自己清除掉，没有严重后果，有些人不能。 不过我印象疫苗也只涵盖了大部分HPV亚种，打了也还是要注意自我保护的。
你看到“大概率”这几个字了吗？
事实上医学现在都没搞清楚癌症到底是怎么得的。以为打了疫苗就可以防癌症是很可笑的。
说的是没错， 但是除开大概率自己好了吧， 小概率就自己癌变了，更小概率就自己死了。
不打怎么保护自己？很多男性都是没有什么症状，而且hpv病毒condom防不住
先说说你是怎么保护自己不得肺癌胃癌乳腺癌卵巢癌的。。。
需要。道格拉斯，得喉癌的(后来又说舌癌)，说就是hpv造成的。
打了当然不能100%预防 而且预防也是只是几个比较凶险的亚种 但是真的有人想用这个赌吗 尤其是自己孩子 benefits>risk
哪怕只有一个性伙伴，还是有得HPV的可能的。打这个疫苗本来就是为了保护，也没有什么家长或小孩说打了之后就可以放心滥交了，不打的小孩也不等于就洁身自好了。
这个应该无论男女都应该打的吧，医生这么说的，家里男娃也打了，一共两针，间隔超过一年好像。
Risk. It''s a new vaccine, too new to know much about long term risks or possible side effects. While this vaccine has, of course, been extensively tested for safety like any other vaccine would be, it has not been around long enough to give conclusive evidence that there is no risk for long-term side effects. Vaccines that have been around for decades (like the t-dap vaccine) have been improved over the years to ensure their safety. When side effects occurred, however rare, they were documented and researched in order to make the vaccine better. The HPV vaccine hasn''t been in use long enough to have this advantage. Is there really any benefit? The push for the HPV vaccine has been largely due to growing awareness about cervical cancer. While the truth is that some cases of cervical cancer may have stemmed from certain strains of HPV that went unresolved, the truth is that most cases of HPV self-resolve. It is also important to note that of the many different strains of HPV in existence, the HPV vaccine only protects against a select few. When you add all these factors, it becomes clear that the HPV vaccine will barely decrease (if at all, considering possible side-effects) your risk for developing cervical cancer.
Statistically it''s a very safe vaccine, but if you do experience side effects, they are quite severe. Swelling and headaches are the most common side effect. Hives or a rash are next. Difficulty breathing leading to unconsciousness is the most extreme side effect. There were reported cases of it causing new cases of narcolepsy, but there isn''t enough information to suggest whether the vaccine was the cause, or something else. Interestingly, the Japanese government has withdrawn support for Gardasil, based on these side effects and doctors are told to inform patients that it is not recommended to use.
I believe the question was why NOT to get it with NOT in capital letter. It causes very serious side effects in 7-12% of people who are vaccinated (that''s about average of 1-10), as in paralysis or death. That is from CDC data. I know several countries banned it, and texas no longer made it mandatory. I had a classmate die from the vaccine in HS. Saw her on Friday in class, dead Saturday morning. I had a saturday detention, so I heard right after death. At least with cancer, you have time to say goodbye and make amends. Chance of dying from the cancer a lot less likely than that vaccine itself 8.1 / 100,000 (0.0081%) for cervical, and 2.4/100,000 (0.0024%) mortality rate.
只能自己判断了。不过经历过covid疫苗，我现在不太相信那些推荐疫苗的数据了，感觉有些医生科学家，跟销售一样，为了推自己相信的东西，说话是不严谨的，甚至根本不查证，想说什么说什么。就跟amazon的评论一样，我一般会看负评。
condom大概率是可以防的，只要从头到尾都戴。
我以前看过一篇报导，一个十几岁女孩打了这个疫苗瘫痪了还是什麽，她妈妈特别后悔让她打。跟新冠疫苗一样，副作用是可以很严重，但是概率很小。
打啊。6年级学校组织打，分两针打。
我记得版上有个女id说自己就是被无症状携带病毒的老公传上的，很痛苦。男孩女孩最好都打，保护自己也保护伴侣
A systematic review of HPV vaccine pre- and post-licensure trials found that “the claim that HPV vaccination will result in approximately 70% reduction of cervical cancers is made despite the fact that the clinical trials data have not demonstrated to date that the vaccines have actually prevented a single case of cervical cancer (let alone cervical cancer death), nor that the current overly optimistic surrogate marker-based extrapolations are justified. Likewise, the notion that HPV vaccines have an impressive safety profile is only supported by highly flawed design of safety trials and is contrary to accumulating evidence from vaccine safety surveillance databases and case reports which continue to link HPV vaccination to serious adverse outcomes (including death and permanent disabilities)...” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23016780
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这个疫苗才多少年，怎么得出终身免疫结论的
当然打啊。
俺娃们上大学之前都打好了。
有的虽然是低危不致癌，但是可能会导致warts也很麻烦，不但恶心而且可能会复发。
说自己就是被无症状携带病毒的老公传上的只能是猜测，除非这个女id一生只有一个性伴侣。这个病毒可以潜伏几十年detect不到，然后中年以后发作。而且男性没有筛查HPV的可靠途径，所以即使查出也是不能肯定到底是谁传染的。
By the time the drive (or trial) was halted, 24,000 girls had been vaccinated, out of which eight had died. A government investigation in 2015 did not establish any link between the deaths and the vaccine. The vaccine, Gardasil, continued to be commercially available.
英国最近也有篇文章说防癌症的证据不明显，推荐大家还是靠pap来预防。
恭喜你回到20世纪的医疗水平。
我儿子打了疫苗，这几年不断的长warts，问了医生， HPV疫苗不防这种普通手脚上的warts。 有些后悔打这个疫苗了。
你咋知道她成年以前不会有性行为？
是的，hpv vaccine 防不了长手脚上的warts, 但是能防hpv 6 and 11, 你自己去查查这两种strains 产生的warts 是长在哪的吧。
我只是好奇，这位层主是不是觉得科技医疗创新都适用于下一代。那50年内的疫苗大家都不要打，留到50年后打吗？ 没人打的话，等50年有啥意义啊？
难道不能权衡一下风险吗？假如觉得孩子风险不大，比不上打疫苗的风险就应该不要打。华人保守家庭跟黑人奔放家庭风险肯定不一样。
真为你家孩子捏把汗
HPV不需要睡10个8个后才得。
如果自家的没打，对方也没打，两人都不是对方的唯一，过去有过性行为，1-3 partners in the last for both of them respectively，这种 scenario 基本上会感染 hpv 没跑了。
这种婚恋情况在二代ABC身上很普遍的，起码2个以上sex partners during their life time, 这还是算挺保守的生活方式了
但是大部分人都能自己清除病毒，又不是一旦感染就终身携带。只要不是经常casual sex，普通正经男女朋友交往，再加上带套，感染几率不大。
我是这么想的，如果中了，指感染后进阶成LSIL, HSIL，以及再往下发展成癌，这个结果能不能承受，如果不能承受，life or death 那种，那90%甚至95%的清除率就显得不那么高了对不对？
我知道得了宫颈癌也不是马上就 life or death 这种压力，但是癌症对中年人来说还是很沉重的
打了没用？
只要按时做pap，及时发现，发展成癌症的概率也不高。打疫苗瘫痪或者死亡的风险是随机不可控而且被打压低估，所以假如性行为比较保守，最终发展成癌症的概率和打疫苗出大事的概率基本一致。
性行为开始前打这个疫苗最有用，对整个社会人群来说，第一次性行为的开始时间下限确实是 12/13 岁, 药厂发表数据得考虑这个事实，而且必须从整体考虑，它不能说某某族裔总体偏于保守，建议16岁以后开始, 某某族裔开始的早，所以11/12岁。所以统一规定11/12岁体检医生就开始问了
家长可以要求推迟打，15岁以后要三针，15岁以前结束就只需两针。
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/who-says-just-one-dose-hpv-vaccine-protects-against-cervical-cancer
不用尽早打。
https://www.wisn.com/amp/article/waukesha-girl-dies-hours-after-getting-hpv-vaccine/6324913
有女孩死于第三针。
https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/prescription-drugs/gardasil-lawsuit/gardasil-deaths/