3x10和200比？ NPR's Steve Inskeep speaks with Ioan Grillo about the illegal flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico. Majority all arms used in Mexico, where gun control laws are very strict, are bought in the U.S. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/07/1103445425/much-of-firearms-traffic-from-the-u-s-to-mexico-happens-illegally Canada’s tough gun laws aren’t enough to stop the flood of illegal firearms from the U.S. The difficulty of buying a gun in Canada and the ease of doing so in the U.S. have combined to turn U.S.-to-Canada gun smuggling into a lucrative business. https://fortune.com/2022/06/11/canada-gun-laws-control-us-school-mass-shooting-uvalde/amp/ Detractors argue the legislation targets the “low-hanging fruit” of legal gun sales while ignoring illegal firearms and their No. 1 source: the U.S. Illegal guns cross the 5,525-mile U.S.-Canada border in myriad ways.
回复 56楼爱与自由的帖子 既然要推控枪，那就要对枪和相关法律有基本了解，不要张口就来。 实在不行可以买把枪实践一下， 看看哪里有法律漏洞。 你可以去试试买枪， 看看填4473表时如果填了有精神病， 看看能不能买到。或者如果填了使用大麻， 看看能否买到。或者填了自己犯过罪， 看看能否买到。 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? d. Are you a fugitive from justice? e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? g.Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions? 现在控枪法律已经多如牛毛， 问题出在这些控枪法律是否严格执行，比如发现有人非法持枪了是否按法律惩处。 否则再多的控枪法律也没用。
回复 56楼爱与自由的帖子 既然要推控枪，那就要对枪和相关法律有基本了解，不要张口就来。 实在不行可以买把枪实践一下， 看看哪里有法律漏洞。 你可以去试试买枪， 看看填4473表时如果填了有精神病， 看看能不能买到。或者如果填了使用大麻， 看看能否买到。或者填了自己犯过罪， 看看能否买到。 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? d. Are you a fugitive from justice? e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? g.Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions? 现在控枪法律已经多如牛毛， 问题出在这些控枪法律是否严格执行，比如发现有人非法持枪了是否按法律惩处。 否则再多的控枪法律也没用。
回复 56楼爱与自由的帖子 既然要推控枪，那就要对枪和相关法律有基本了解，不要张口就来。 实在不行可以买把枪实践一下， 看看哪里有法律漏洞。 你可以去试试买枪， 看看填4473表时如果填了有精神病， 看看能不能买到。或者如果填了使用大麻， 看看能否买到。或者填了自己犯过罪， 看看能否买到。 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? d. Are you a fugitive from justice? e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? g.Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions? 现在控枪法律已经多如牛毛， 问题出在这些控枪法律是否严格执行，比如发现有人非法持枪了是否按法律惩处。 否则再多的控枪法律也没用。
回复 56楼爱与自由的帖子 既然要推控枪，那就要对枪和相关法律有基本了解，不要张口就来。 实在不行可以买把枪实践一下， 看看哪里有法律漏洞。 你可以去试试买枪， 看看填4473表时如果填了有精神病， 看看能不能买到。或者如果填了使用大麻， 看看能否买到。或者填了自己犯过罪， 看看能否买到。 21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? d. Are you a fugitive from justice? e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? g.Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions? 现在控枪法律已经多如牛毛， 问题出在这些控枪法律是否严格执行，比如发现有人非法持枪了是否按法律惩处。 否则再多的控枪法律也没用。
是你们平行宇宙的现行法律吗？哦川普悄悄签的，是为自己的行为不齿吗？ 看你坚持不懈洗地的精神真令人感动，大家找清洁工一定要找川粉 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1039301 President Donald Trump responded to the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings by insisting Monday that “mental illness pulls the trigger not the gun,” but shortly after taking office hequietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns. Trump did so without any fanfare. In fact, the news that Trump had signed the bill was at the bottom of a White House email that alerted the media to other legislation signed by the president. And it came after the House and Senate, both of which were Republican-controlled at the time, passed a bill, H.J. Res 40, which revoked the Obama-era regulation. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Sam Johnson, a Texas Republican who retired at the end of 2018.
是你们平行宇宙的现行法律吗？哦川普悄悄签的，是为自己的行为不齿吗？ 看你坚持不懈洗地的精神真令人感动，大家找清洁工一定要找川粉 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1039301 President Donald Trump responded to the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings by insisting Monday that “mental illness pulls the trigger not the gun,” but shortly after taking office hequietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns. Trump did so without any fanfare. In fact, the news that Trump had signed the bill was at the bottom of a White House email that alerted the media to other legislation signed by the president. And it came after the House and Senate, both of which were Republican-controlled at the time, passed a bill, H.J. Res 40, which revoked the Obama-era regulation. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Sam Johnson, a Texas Republican who retired at the end of 2018. 爱与自由 发表于 2022-06-13 12:32
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厉害啊
历史上首次啊
美国总算进步了
是呀，依旧失望。 就现在这几个还是拔河几个回合才能争取到10个gop参议员支持。 希望这是第一步。
好像没什么狗屁用。 sigh.
只能一步一步来。不过共和党现在党争高过生命是挺让人讨厌的。
民主党才是利用国家机器打击政治对手，跟共chan党做法有的一拼（意识形态上，两者都是左派）。民主党塔尖上那些人真是良心大大的坏，底层是票蛆
这个逻辑。首先，美国人口是加拿大的十倍。其次，加拿大的邻居是美国，而美国南面的邻居是墨西哥。更不要说巨大的人口构成差异和贫富差距。加拿大居然还有三起School Shooting，完全不支持论点呀。
赞👍。
多用点脑子好吧，国家机器和媒体几乎全部掌握在主党手里，现在美国状况如此糟糕，共和党江河日下，稍微有些常识的被主党媒体大肆歪曲渲染。我什么党派都不是 。长此以往 倒霉的就是一般的美国生活的人。
那些Criminal，有犯罪前科的，才不该放出来；很多枪击案都是这帮人搞出来的
我完全同意，很可悲好多人看不清楚； 民主党现在非常擅长宣传那一套，什么事情都是报道一面颠到黑白；我们这一代还可以混混，等下一代，不知道什么生存环境。
加拿大是3起，按照美国人口是加拿大10倍，美国应该是30起。但现在美国是200起，很严重呀！
就从数据来看，加拿大人口只有美国的十分之一，而且人口密度更低，人口构成也没美国这么复杂，如果把这些这些因素都考虑进去的话，加拿大其实也好不到哪里去。。。
还有别的因素呀。说实话很惊讶加拿大还有三起。应该比墙内呀，一起都没有🫢。有也没有🫢。
确实！民主党虚伪的很，天使区一天到晚枪战，猪党啥时候关心过？现在跳出来不过是为了捞选票。
非常同意你说的共和党江河日下。连川普都拉出来了。
民主党不也是党争高于一切，支持打砸抢零元购，纵容罪犯。我一根韭菜只想好好过日子，即使这次控枪是主党政治作秀，那也是很多老百姓希望看到的。看政客到底是否心系人民，就看他们做了啥而不是说了啥。我从来只看政策不看党派，因为现在两党都很让失望。
历史上禁酒都没成功过，还想控枪？合法渠道买不到枪，没关系，黑市上多的是，贵点怕啥，反正也是最后一梭子。
美国还有一个地方比纽约的枪支管理更严格的吗？
gop目前这个样子 能达成协议已经很不错了 希望中期以后能继续控枪
3x10和200比？ NPR's Steve Inskeep speaks with Ioan Grillo about the illegal flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico. Majority all arms used in Mexico, where gun control laws are very strict, are bought in the U.S. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/07/1103445425/much-of-firearms-traffic-from-the-u-s-to-mexico-happens-illegally
Canada’s tough gun laws aren’t enough to stop the flood of illegal firearms from the U.S. The difficulty of buying a gun in Canada and the ease of doing so in the U.S. have combined to turn U.S.-to-Canada gun smuggling into a lucrative business. https://fortune.com/2022/06/11/canada-gun-laws-control-us-school-mass-shooting-uvalde/amp/
Detractors argue the legislation targets the “low-hanging fruit” of legal gun sales while ignoring illegal firearms and their No. 1 source: the U.S. Illegal guns cross the 5,525-mile U.S.-Canada border in myriad ways.
哎，别提了，下一代全是极左
狗屁党从上到下都坏 烂透了
有脑子的不会当黄右
这群人都是黄右
要不把共和党赶出美国，各族人民坚决拥护民主党的领导，这样就没有党争了，你看如何？
两党都是党争高过生命，高过国家利益。
真蠢，美国开国时根本没有共和党，也没有民主党。 美国是两党制，但没有哪个政党体系能够万寿无疆的～～ 从来都是右派政党随着时间的推移被扔进垃圾桶， 然后左派政党的两翼分裂出新的进步党和保守党，形成新的政党体系。 共和党消亡，仅仅是时间问题。
拜登这总统眼看要最差榜上名列前茅了吧，主媒有说啥，倒霉的就是大众
你连产党打左灯往右转，挂羊头卖狗肉都不知道，多读点书吧，就看到“左”字就觉得意识形态相同了
要说用信息茧房控制韭菜，试图搞独裁，共产党和共和党才是双生兄弟
可是稍微有些常识的，ar15杀人又快又好，家防又可以用霰弹枪完全够，为啥就不能禁
是平行宇宙的国家机器和媒体吗？那为啥奥巴马八年，龟相让他啥都干不成啊？为啥拜登连控枪都没法通过啊？
几百年的媒体有严格的fact checking制度，被你们川粉说是fake news。就算是观点有偏向，也不像你们的谣言工厂狐狸台，Breitbart, Newsmax、大纪元之流靠满嘴跑火车，煽动恐惧赚钱，还用“正常人不会相信我们说的是真的”来作为法庭辩护的理由
美国不控枪，霍霍的不止自己还有邻居们
共和党的common sense是不允许带枪进NRA，但学校老师要扛枪，别说控枪了，精神病不能买枪的限制都去掉了
按照民主党的大爱精神，精神病也有保卫自己的权力，万一家里闯进个毛贼没枪自卫咋办？
既然要推控枪，那就要对枪和相关法律有基本了解，不要张口就来。 实在不行可以买把枪实践一下， 看看哪里有法律漏洞。
你可以去试试买枪， 看看填4473表时如果填了有精神病， 看看能不能买到。或者如果填了使用大麻， 看看能否买到。或者填了自己犯过罪， 看看能否买到。
21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)? Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b. b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation? d. Are you a fugitive from justice? e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside. f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? g.Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?
现在控枪法律已经多如牛毛， 问题出在这些控枪法律是否严格执行，比如发现有人非法持枪了是否按法律惩处。 否则再多的控枪法律也没用。
这自己回答问题和要求背景调查不是一回事吧！再说了蓝州买枪相对严格些，不知道红州比如Texas真的是随便买。
这就是背景调查填的表呀。 当然如果填表人撒谎就看看做背景调查的是否认真负责了， 这属于是否严格执法的问题。
red flag是州级别的，蓝州本来控枪就严一些，有它不多；红州根本不会管，没它也不少。18-21岁的严格背调是另一条。
我觉得一个禁止家暴者买枪，一个联邦立法管制黑枪买卖，还是有意义的。
你说的直指问题的关键:
太大的问题不谈，就说以“不让有精神问题的拿到枪”这个命题： 有精神问题的人也可以开车杀人，那是不是有精神问题的就不许开车了？要吊销驾照？ 有精神问题的人如何被发现？靠他们自己报告？靠他们的医生报告？靠周围的人举报？ 如何防止有人利用这个机会陷害好人？
按照川普的逻辑，对付流氓就得用流氓手段来对付😂😂😂！狗屁共和党，就欠这个！
黄你好 你以后会后悔当黄左的
你是黄左 喜欢左的思想喜欢被管控，请滚回墙内
现在要推行的红旗法就给了大家随便举报的方便。 好像也对诬告也没啥约束。
你好傻 民主党只会演化成共chan党，你如此喜欢请去墙内
请你多读书。共产党是原教旨马克思主义，民主党是文化马克思主义。都是马克思注主义左派。墙内只有反有反游没有反左，为啥？你连左右都不分，好傻好傻好悲哀
什么前茅后茅的，拜登无所谓！当年他上位的唯一目的就是要搞掉川普！现在目的已经达到了，再为老百姓做几年实事，人家就退休了，这么大年纪了，你让他连任人家还不乐意呢，人家还要为自己的晚年生活打算呢。
和党统治下去， 你的女儿畸形儿都不能打， 自己的身体都不能做主啦
自己不看新闻还这么自信，真令人无语
16年奥巴马出台政策加强对精神病拥枪的审核，被特朗普推翻了。川普要求多开精神病院，而不是控枪
你们为金主爸爸洗地真是辛苦了
是拥枪，禁止堕胎，歧视女性，有色人种，移民，同性恋，天天filibuster, fearmongering, gaslighting, jerrymandering...这么小政府，传统美德吗？
共产党的左右我就不帮你科普了，浪费时间
马克思随便写本书，就成了杀人如麻的邪教的吉祥物，版权费给了嘛？他的棺材板都快压不住了
北欧基本都是社会主义了，你非要说他们和共产党一毛一样我也没办法啊，你开心就好
极左继续下去，老师会诱导你儿子变女儿，女儿变儿子，你还无权说活。 当然，我支持堕胎权和合理控枪
瞎扣帽子谁不会。现行法律就是精神有问题的人不能持枪， 还要怎么个严厉法? 而且多开精神病院，把有病的都收治而不是放大街上， 有什么不对？
我也是有一样的担忧。后面的generations不知道将在一个什么样的大环境影响下成长，我是很不乐观的😭
感觉 美国需要女总统啊
最好是 佩罗西大妈 或者 AOC 大姐 当美国总统
如果美国 由 女生管理的话
应该更好
是你们平行宇宙的现行法律吗？哦川普悄悄签的，是为自己的行为不齿吗？
看你坚持不懈洗地的精神真令人感动，大家找清洁工一定要找川粉
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1039301
President Donald Trump responded to the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings by insisting Monday that “mental illness pulls the trigger not the gun,” but shortly after taking office hequietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.
Trump did so without any fanfare. In fact, the news that Trump had signed the bill was at the bottom of a White House email that alerted the media to other legislation signed by the president.
And it came after the House and Senate, both of which were Republican-controlled at the time, passed a bill, H.J. Res 40, which revoked the Obama-era regulation. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Sam Johnson, a Texas Republican who retired at the end of 2018.
你告诉ATF你是精神病，然后你买一把枪看看能买到不？
你是他裤裆的蛔虫吗？ 老家伙打着春药也得拼连任。
想多了。还包子馅。在这里能给我们点包子皮就很好了。
看完后表示，
有一点皮总比空气好。
😟
拜等自己做不了主。后面有一小群人在操控他在。你就不要自作主张替他安排了
如果看新闻，不要只看一半。只看一半，歪曲是非，是民主党的好把戏。比如，最高法院不是要废除堕胎权，而是要把堕胎权放回各州，让州议会和人民自己决定。我觉得这个很合理，可是大多数人自己不读书，不研究，一知半解，被人利用
你说的这些，比如歧视女性，有色人种，移民等，把这些帽子扣到共和党头上是不对的。我在公司里，白人很多，我不觉得自己被歧视，只要你有能力，印度人也能做CEO. 反而是很多天使，能力不行，就来政治正确这一套。还有移民，不加管制了的话，整个美国都变成旧金山好了，屎尿横飞。请问你自己家里是大门打开，让别人随便进吗？
其他的点，我就不驳斥了。每个人的观点，是自己人生经历的结果。你告诉苍蝇说屎是臭的，苍蝇却骂“傻逼，屎真香”。所以不要去说服别人，而是要提高自己的学习和认知能力，从正反两反面多思考，把不同观点的理解一下，最终形成自己的价值观
好消息, 先把这些青春期易冲动的小孩管管. 慢慢来.
看你的注册时间 也应该来美很多年了 居然还天真地认为🐷党是想认真控枪拯救无辜的生命 也是幼稚
那你有精神病不告诉他呢？要是买好了一车ar15以后变成精神病了呢？ 就拿个纸问，你是不是坏人？注意，说假话要收法律制裁的哦。 你觉得搞mass shooting的人怕法律？
你这意思是，反正该犯罪的都不会守法，所以法律没用？逻辑感人，智商动人
真搞笑，没脑子的货还说别人没逻辑😄法律需要有enforcement，如果判断有没有杀人就靠在纸上问问，你觉得还有人怕法律？