加拿大正在立法,走私黑枪、持枪打劫可能都不用坐牢了。。

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barbaraa
楼主 (北美华人网)
特鲁多正在立法降低对严重枪支犯罪的量刑要求,例如枪支走私和销售黑枪目前的强制性最低刑期是三年,而特鲁多提出的新法将降到零,换言之走私黑枪可能不用坐牢。

上周,特鲁多提出C-21 法案,全国冻结手枪销售,誓言要减少加拿大国内的手枪数量。
但是,与此同时,特鲁多政府还正在推动通过 C-5 法案,该法案取消了对几起严重枪支犯罪的强制性最低刑期。
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barbaraa
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-reducing-sentencing-requirements-for-serious-gun-crimes
果小小
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弹指芳华
what 对民众严格控枪,gun crimes走私买卖黑枪却不用坐牢。那就是说走私买卖黑枪等同于合法的喽?
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qd1981
以后在加拿大, 良民不可能合法的买到枪了
坏人从美国走私黑枪, 不是问题

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iloveflower
土豆现在脑子不好使,看看自由党在最近的省选中大败,下次土豆特定下⬇️台。
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neocns
potato.....
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tracys0801
合法买不行了,但是非法买不是大事
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jaehn
我一直很佩服小土豆的是:他是那么天真且愚蠢,认为自己一厢情愿的立法可以对抗自由黑市
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Seeking668
所以说这些反枪政客就是罪犯的贴心人,罪犯杀人犯罪要减刑,有良民拥枪保护自己,威胁到罪犯了,必须禁枪把他们的枪缴了,罪犯才放心 而愚民们还支持他们,他们才有power为所欲为啊,简直speechless
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shoon_yee
不能正规渠道买枪,但是黑市买枪就没有问题?
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SkyJapan
所以还在表杨他的,看不到这个魔鬼puppet 的险恶用心吗;这样好人更难生存,只能依靠独裁政府。这个邋遢的老土豆越来越没有人性
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cheetahegg
加拿大和加州为啥不长一块呢,一并成立个国家多好
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SkyJapan
我一直很佩服小土豆的是:他是那么天真且愚蠢,认为自己一厢情愿的立法可以对抗自由黑市
jaehn 发表于 2022-06-09 11:12

那是没有看透他的邪恶用心,他完全知道自己在干什么
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789
早说了,民主党都不让查ID,那咋控枪呢?
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Seeking668
我一直很佩服小土豆的是:他是那么天真且愚蠢,认为自己一厢情愿的立法可以对抗自由黑市
jaehn 发表于 2022-06-09 11:12

“天真且愚蠢”?天真且愚蠢的人怎么可能爬上台? 他就是坏,大奸大恶且有手段,so far very successful
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QLXF
前不久,板上的人还不是一片赞誉之声吗,说土豆就是牛。 露馅了吧。
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qd1981
我一直很佩服小土豆的是:他是那么天真且愚蠢,认为自己一厢情愿的立法可以对抗自由黑市
jaehn 发表于 2022-06-09 11:12

他最天真且愚蠢的是, 旁边是一个民间有几亿枝枪基本自由买卖的邻居, 边境又及其漫长,还有一堆两不管的印第安保留区, 他有本事禁止走私 ?
他禁止枪枝买卖,只能不让良民武装自卫, 对坏人有个屁用。
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shoon_yee
我一直很佩服小土豆的是:他是那么天真且愚蠢,认为自己一厢情愿的立法可以对抗自由黑市
jaehn 发表于 2022-06-09 11:12

天真愚蠢的应该是选他的选民吧😂
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ffyu
那是没有看透他的邪恶用心,他完全知道自己在干什么
SkyJapan 发表于 2022-06-09 11:20

同感, 他十分明白自己在干嘛, 目的是什么, 是说他糊涂的人真糊涂。
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doser
左派的共同特征:舌灿莲花,心如蛇蝎,好话说尽,坏事做绝。
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mandj
谁解释一下土豆的目的是啥?
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ChristinaW
谁解释一下土豆的目的是啥?
mandj 发表于 2022-06-09 11:54

关键词, toronto sun, columnist,
就好比胡锡进在环球时报上发文章说中国人权状况好于美国~~
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wish2live
what?
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huangleboluo
小土豆就是一个deep state的傀儡。这儿好多人傻傻的还支持他粉他,那被骗被宰也是活该。要不然说愚民好控制呢,呵呵。
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might
谁解释一下土豆的目的是啥?
mandj 发表于 2022-06-09 11:54

Police state.
黑帮,非移,罪犯多了,杀人放火抢劫强奸,民众只有手里木棍,打911警察2小时候才来。
拿民众只有更加依赖政府,住在更加人多的都市区,交更多的税,换取政府的保护。
不久前土豆禁枪的时候不是满版溢美之词吗,指责美国id没资格操加拿大的心的论调也瞬间高赞,怎么现在都装失忆了哈哈哈
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huangleboluo
回复 27楼曲的帖子
那些喊禁枪的蹭了几天热度就消失了,没有人再提这个事儿。意料之中。
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giftfromgod
合法买不行了,但是非法买不是大事
tracys0801 发表于 2022-06-09 11:12

这是要哄抬枪价! 不过加拿大继续作死,有个先例给美国民众看看也好
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yanle
哇喔,合法的不能拥枪,非法的走私黑市不用坐牢。 这是鼓励枪支走私黑市贩卖,出事了,警察查不出来也不用查了的节奏。
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jeso1
c5是虐童大量印第安儿童死亡后提出联邦和印第安人种族和解法 现在政府又修正,给印第安人好处。
印第安人从美国走私不少枪支,通过他们领地,然后转卖获利 哈伯时期把走私枪支和持枪抢劫视为一样严重犯罪严厉处理。
印第安人大量进监狱,加拿大监狱里女性一半印第安人。
现在自由党说不干涉法官具体判案,但是取消强制走私武器就必须是三年。 也就是给印第安人网开一面,他们少量走私武器获利时,不会马上全部抓入监狱关三年,就像给他们卖烟草特权一样,法官自己确定刑期。
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singlemummy
左派的共同特征:舌灿莲花,心如蛇蝎,好话说尽,坏事做绝。
doser 发表于 2022-06-09 11:47

跟主席台上的共产党一样, 满嘴为社会主义奋斗,为人民服务, 私下里 男盗女娼 外国护照老婆二奶孩子私生子在美国加拿大澳大利亚新西兰。。。。
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jeso1
c5是虐童大量印第安儿童死亡后提出联邦和印第安人种族和解法 现在政府又修正,给印第安人好处。
印第安人从美国走私不少枪支,通过他们领地,然后转卖获利 哈伯时期把走私枪支和持枪抢劫视为一样严重犯罪严厉处理。
印第安人大量进监狱,加拿大监狱里女性一半印第安人。
现在自由党说不干涉法官具体判案,但是取消强制走私武器就必须是三年。 也就是给印第安人网开一面,给他们少量走私武器获利的优惠,就像给他们卖烟草特权一样。

jeso1 发表于 2022-06-09 16:39

太阳报是保守党小报。 反对任何枪支控制,对任何滥杀都反对控枪, 现在突然跳出来谈社会安全,有点贼喊捉贼感觉 保守华人大妈如获至宝。
太阳报种族主义报纸对亚洲人,印第安人恨之入骨,这个时机闹一闹太好了,一箭双雕。至于社会治安枪杀,它从来没有关心过,它是民众大量持枪滥杀权力捍卫者。
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cobai
左派的共同特征:舌灿莲花,心如蛇蝎,好话说尽,坏事做绝。
doser 发表于 2022-06-09 11:47

嗯。太没人性了
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kongbua
一边不让百姓用枪一边让黑枪走私合法化,黑土豆到底想干嘛
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evian2008
那到底事实是啥?
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FlyingCreek
回复 36楼evian2008的帖子
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2021/12/mandatory-minimum-penalties-to-be-repealed.html
The reforms to MMPs would only apply to certain offences, and would not limit the ability of a judge to impose a sentence of imprisonment, particularly where doing so is necessary to protect the safety of the public. To address the overincarceration rate of Indigenous peoples, as well as Black and marginalized Canadians, MMPs for the following offences would be repealed:
[REPEALED] Using a firearm or imitation firearm in commission of offence (two separate offences) Paragraphs 85(3)(a) and (b): MMPs of 1 year (first offence) and 3 years (second and subsequent offence) Possession of firearm or weapon knowing its possession is unauthorized (two separate offences) Paragraphs 92(3)(b) and (c): MMP of 1 year (second offence) and 2 years less a day (third and subsequent offence) Possession of prohibited or restricted firearm with ammunition Paragraphs 95(2)(i) and (ii): MMPs of 3 years (first offence) and 5 years (second and subsequent offence) Possession of weapon obtained by commission of offence Paragraph 96(2)(a): MMP of 1 year Weapons trafficking (excluding firearms and ammunition) Subsection 99(3): MMP of 1 year Possession for purpose of weapons trafficking (excluding firearms and ammunition) Subsection 100(3): MMP of 1 year Importing or exporting knowing it is unauthorized Subsection 103(2.1): MMP of 1 year Discharging firearm with intent Paragraph 244(2)(b): MMP of 4 years Discharging firearm — recklessness Paragraph 244.2(3)(b): MMP of 4 years Robbery with a firearm Paragraph 344(1)(a.1): MMP of 4 years Extortion with a firearm Paragraph 346(1.1)(a.1): MMP of 4 years Selling, etc., of tobacco products and raw leaf tobacco Subparagraphs 121.1 (4)(a)(i),(ii) and (iii): MMPs of 90 days (second offence), MMP of 180 days (third offence) and MMP of 2 years less a day (fourth and subsequent offence)
[MAINTAINED] Consistent with the Government’s related commitment to address the trafficking and smuggling of firearms in Canada and gang-related violence, MMPs would be maintained in the Criminal Code for the following
offences:Weapons trafficking Subsection 99(2): MMP of 3 years (first offence) or 5 years (subsequent offences) Possession for the purpose of weapons trafficking Subsection 100(2): MMP of 3 years (first offence) or 5 years (subsequent offences) Making automatic firearm Subsection 102(2): MMP of 1 year Importing or exporting knowing it is unauthorized Subsection 103(2): MMP of 3 years (first offence) or 5 years (subsequent offences) Causing death by criminal negligence, use of firearm Subsection 220(a): MMP of 4 years Manslaughter, use of a firearm Subsection 236(a): MMP of 4 years Attempted murder, use of a firearm Paragraph 239(1)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Paragraph 239(1)(a.1): MMP of 4 years in any other case (involving non-restricted firearms) Discharging firearm with intent  Paragraph 244(2)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 year (subsequent offences) where firearm is restricted or prohibited or where the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Discharging firearm—recklessness Paragraph 244.2(3)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 year (subsequent offences) where firearm is restricted or prohibited or where the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Sexual assault, use of firearm Paragraph 272(2)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Paragraph 272(2)(a.1): MMP of 4 years in any other case (involving non-restricted firearms) Aggravated sexual assault, use of a firearm Paragraph 273(2)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Paragraph 273(2)(a.1): MMP of 4 years in any other case (involving non-restricted firearms) Kidnapping, use of a firearm Paragraph 279(1.1)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Paragraph 279(1.1)(a.1): MMP of 4 years in any other case (involving non-restricted firearms) Hostage taking, use of a firearm Paragraph 279.1(2)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Paragraph 279.1(2)(a.1): MMP of 4 years in any other case (involving non-restricted firearms) Robbery with firearm Paragraph 344(1)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization Extortion with a firearm Paragraph 346(1.1)(a): MMP of 5 years (first offence) and 7 years (subsequent offences) - where firearm is restricted or prohibited or if any firearm is used and the offence is committed in connection with a criminal organization
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suifengsui
我以为应该良民控枪,罪犯重刑禁枪。结果......
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mappycarol
英文社交媒体都在骂土豆。只有这里的某些人赞美土豆,巴不得早点把美国变成独裁暴政加拿大。这下看清土豆真面目了?还想移民安全美丽的加拿大吗?
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April4
左派的共同特征:舌灿莲花,心如蛇蝎,好话说尽,坏事做绝。
doser 发表于 2022-06-09 11:47

所以枪击案发生就有人喊选猪党,问题是非法移民他们放进来的,罪犯他们减低保释金放回街道的,黑名贵零元购他们鼓励的,defund police也是他们喊的,选不下手啊
游戏人生
一边不让百姓用枪一边让黑枪走私合法化,黑土豆到底想干嘛
kongbua 发表于 2022-06-09 17:07

为了降低罪犯屠杀百姓的风险
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andolomeda
小土豆是个傀儡,背后大佬是世界经济论坛创始人施瓦布。 现在西方世界的精英大佬们跟左派扎堆在一起,操纵各国
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g00gle
左派的共同特征:舌灿莲花,心如蛇蝎,好话说尽,坏事做绝。
doser 发表于 2022-06-09 11:47

把这些话送你们黄右 外加造谣随口就来
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g00gle
跟主席台上的共产党一样, 满嘴为社会主义奋斗,为人民服务, 私下里 男盗女娼 外国护照老婆二奶孩子私生子在美国加拿大澳大利亚新西兰。。。。
singlemummy 发表于 2022-06-09 16:43

共匪意识形态是右派 显然你这个蠢且坏的黄右对共匪是左是右分不清
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g00gle
所以枪击案发生就有人喊选猪党,问题是非法移民他们放进来的,罪犯他们减低保释金放回街道的,黑名贵零元购他们鼓励的,defund police也是他们喊的,选不下手啊
April4 发表于 2022-06-09 18:32

这只黄右出了造谣没别的吗 get a life
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Laughaway
这逻辑还真理不清楚