德州牧师现在可以公开这么布道吗?“美国的男同性恋都应该排起队来被全部枪决!圣经就是这么说的”

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roott
楼主 (北美华人网)
NEW: Dillon Awes, a preacher in Forth Worth, Texas, just called for the mass execution of every gay American: “Every single homosexual in our country should be lined up against the wall and shot in the back of the head. That's what God teaches! That's what the Bible says.”
On Sunday, Christian hate-preacher Dillon Awes said that the government should execute every gay person. All of them.

"They should be lined up against the wall and shot in the back of the head! That's what God teaches. That's what the Bible says." pic.twitter.com/rMzF3BHSNF — Hemant Mehta (@hemantmehta) June 7, 2022

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lp005520
信教的太可怕了,洗脑一流,难怪现在越来越多的年轻人都不信教了。
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Lidl
民主党的同学 如何看
冰糖梨
崆峒即深柜,看到这种发表极端言论的人,我都默认自己就是,所以要公开划清界限以示清白。
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somuch
极左极右都有病!
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freewilly
他长得就像同性恋
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dahai008
此牧师说不定就是同性恋,哈哈,一般人哪来的对同性恋的仇恨
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tinystar01
先让他把教会里性侵孩子的先干掉再说
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ivoryzz
回复 1楼roott的帖子
言论自由
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SkyJapan
不是 曲解圣经
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littlebig
NEW: Dillon Awes, a preacher in Forth Worth, Texas, just called for the mass execution of every gay American: “Every single homosexual in our country should be lined up against the wall and shot in the back of the head. That's what God teaches! That's what the Bible says.”
On Sunday, Christian hate-preacher Dillon Awes said that the government should execute every gay person. All of them.

"They should be lined up against the wall and shot in the back of the head! That's what God teaches. That's what the Bible says." pic.twitter.com/rMzF3BHSNF — Hemant Mehta (@hemantmehta) June 7, 2022


roott 发表于 2022-06-08 11:53

直接怼过去就行了啊:美国又不是原教旨主义国家,你那糕德和白布经算个屁啊,信不信服不服从关你屁事?
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teabucket
政教分离 或者 tax the churches.
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ljmdtc
这应该属于言论自由范畴。他的威胁也不构成对具体个人的威胁
编辑:言论自由保障了他“可以”这么说。但不代表他说的是对的;保障他不会被抓或者被强制禁言,但不代表别人不能反击批评他。
言论自由保障个人自由,但不包括公权力。Trump或者gop在台上高喊china virus攻击华人,这就是错的,被选下台活该。
兔子过敏
太可怕了!
坏人在台上说,傻子会在台下执行。
之前不是也有极端分子去gay bar搞mass shooting么?这个混蛋还嫌不够。还假借上帝之名。真正的基督徒看到这种人渣应该感到羞愧吧?
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JBJ17
圣经上哪一段啊?写圣经的时候还没有枪吧。
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teabucket
这应该属于言论自由范畴。他的威胁也不构成对具体个人的威胁
ljmdtc 发表于 2022-06-08 12:25

会有傻子在后面付诸于行动的。前几天已经有德州的一个群体事件,一堆人去gay的私人聚会去闹事
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applesauce
did he ever read Bible before? God is love. What he says is pure hate.
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teabucket
这应该属于言论自由范畴。他的威胁也不构成对具体个人的威胁
ljmdtc 发表于 2022-06-08 12:25

把这里gay 替换成华裔,如然后检讨一下你要捍卫发言者的言论自由的想法。
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shanggj
did he ever read Bible before? God is love. What he says is pure hate.
applesauce 发表于 2022-06-08 12:31

God is love? Did you ever read bible?
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applesauce
God is love? Did you ever read bible?
shanggj 发表于 2022-06-08 12:34

1 John 4:7-21
God Is Love 7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.
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JBJ17
God is love? Did you ever read bible?
shanggj 发表于 2022-06-08 12:34

旧约比较血腥,新约上是强调love呀。爱你的邻居和爱自己一样。
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COHomeSearch
想到有一次公司赞助旧金山的pride parade, 搞了个活动,我就随口问了一下我同事去不去参加, 他听说是这个活动以后脸都绿了。然后我马上意识到这个人是虔诚的基督教徒
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littlebig
圣经上哪一段啊?写圣经的时候还没有枪吧。
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:27

这个还真不是冤枉God和Bible。这SB言论确实是白布经原文:
Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
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shanggj
旧约比较血腥,新约上是强调love呀。爱你的邻居和爱自己一样。
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:37

的确, 所以十诫 里得专门有一条, 不要搞邻居得老婆。
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Daylight
旧约比较血腥,新约上是强调love呀。爱你的邻居和爱自己一样。
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:37

顺道问下为什么旧约血腥?God动不动一点小事就punish 这个punish那个?
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shanggj
1 John 4:7-21
God Is Love 7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.
applesauce 发表于 2022-06-08 12:36

”but he loves you!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
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ljmdtc
把这里gay 替换成华裔,如然后检讨一下你要捍卫发言者的言论自由的想法。
teabucket 发表于 2022-06-08 12:33

个人这么攻击亚裔的多了去了,这些人也不会被抓起来。 但是掌握公权力的人不能这么说。就像trump高喊china virus攻击华人,绝对该打,被选下台活该
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JBJ17
顺道问下为什么旧约血腥?God动不动一点小事就punish 这个punish那个?
Daylight 发表于 2022-06-08 12:43

我也不知道呀。只是我读的感觉。我也没读完过。好像有人说是不同的时代吧。时代翻篇了吧。有大牛知道吗?
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shanggj
这个还真不是冤枉God和Bible。这SB言论确实是白布经原文:
Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
littlebig 发表于 2022-06-08 12:38

看见很多教堂前面挂彩虹旗, 一直不解。 你要吗信主耶稣得永生, 要吗支持同心恋, 维护人权自由。 但不能两边通吃呀。
小喵呜
前几天cnn有一篇对一个牧师的专访,说的相当不错。他说美国现在的基督徒中有一个趋势,就是要take america back,特别是在三件事上,2020大选,george floyd,以及rasizm。这些事件导致教会的极端两极分化,最终将教会政治化。人们会说,如果你是基督徒,你一定要是共和党。或者说,正因为我是基督徒(我有爱心),所以我必须是民主党。但是God从来没说过要拯救哪个国家,不是save america,而是save american。国家不在了,基督徒还会在。 因为有两极分化的信徒,而信徒的捐赠是牧师的收入,于是就有很多牧师开始极端化,越极端收入越多。 教会现在最大的问题是和世界合流,合流的目的在我看来是获得世界的利益。信和不信的人本来就没有什么相干,哥林多前书六章保罗甚至严厉批评了把教会纷争带到罗马(外邦)法院去解决的做法。同性恋如何,自然有神的审判。事实上保罗在同一章把同性的,醉酒的,淫乱的,栾童的,贪婪的,辱骂的,勒索的都放在同一地位。但是极端牧师从来就不提醉酒的贪婪的辱骂的,因为他们的受众不爱听这个。 耶稣在的时候提到了一个比喻,就是教会的将来。那就是一粒芥菜种长成了一棵参天大树,各样的飞鸟过来栖息。现在这个比喻应验了,教会为了获得表面的繁荣,把自己深深植根在了世界之中,以至于按着世界的样式来治理教会,牧师的讲道从传讲神的话变成了金主爱听什么我就讲什么。这是教会的悲哀,但是这也预示着主要再来的日子近了。

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steve888
这个还真不是冤枉God和Bible。这SB言论确实是白布经原文:
Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
littlebig 发表于 2022-06-08 12:38

理论上这些是上帝告诉以色列人,用来约束犹太人的。所以其他人不需要遵守。旧约里的几乎所有部分都可以不管。这是天主教向新教过度时候,神学家提出的观点。后来被绝大多数非天主教教堂采纳。
落地无声
圣经上哪一段啊?写圣经的时候还没有枪吧。
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:27

和神棍有啥可理论的呢
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cherryfox
信教的太可怕了,洗脑一流,难怪现在越来越多的年轻人都不信教了。
lp005520 发表于 2022-06-08 11:58

传教的也很可怕,太败好感了本来感兴趣的也不愿意去了解了。

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Joyside
这真的是极个别现象
小喵呜
理论上这些是上帝告诉以色列人,用来约束犹太人的。所以其他人不需要遵守。旧约里的几乎所有部分都可以不管。这是天主教向新教过度时候,神学家提出的观点。后来被绝大多数非天主教教堂采纳。
steve888 发表于 2022-06-08 13:02

对的,实际上利未记同一章还有说辱骂父母的,要被处死。我赌从来没有一个牧师在台上讲过辱骂父母的应该把他们排起来枪毙。
贝贝龙
这牧师有病
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batmanpatpat
不是所有牧师都这么极端的 不要一棒子打死
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crazyHat
回复 25楼Daylight的帖子
认知局限,旧约成文比较早,那时候什么杀生祭祀,点天灯都是小菜儿
耳朵的树洞
版上几个宣传福音的,替德州反堕胎洗地的,都出来走一圈。
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Confuse
信教的太可怕了,洗脑一流,难怪现在越来越多的年轻人都不信教了。
lp005520 发表于 2022-06-08 11:58

这个牧师说的不对。有私欲的人借神之名行的罪不要太多,确实是污秽了神的名。希望大家能够区分。
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dayou888
从外表看此人极大可能是深柜
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muumuu2002
理论上这些是上帝告诉以色列人,用来约束犹太人的。所以其他人不需要遵守。旧约里的几乎所有部分都可以不管。这是天主教向新教过度时候,神学家提出的观点。后来被绝大多数非天主教教堂采纳。
steve888 发表于 2022-06-08 13:02

其实利未记里面的律法对犹太人来说也不是按字面来的,犹太人有专门解释怎么执行律法的塔木德,也是与时俱进的。 天主教其实在圣传(tradition)方面也是与时俱进的,教宗对圣经也是有最终解释权的。 恰恰是新教抛弃了对圣经的官方解释权,导致所有人都能解释圣经,而一部分#%*¥只按字面意思来解释圣经,才发展出极端的原教旨主义,号称“圣经无误”。
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Confuse
这个还真不是冤枉God和Bible。这SB言论确实是白布经原文:
Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
littlebig 发表于 2022-06-08 12:38

旧约里的摩西律法(比如你引用的)有613条。这里要区分moral law和positive law(好像后者还有一个不同的词,现在想不起来)。前者表示神对圣洁的心意和标准,后者则是制定出来的法律以求达到目的并带有奖惩条款。前者亘古不变,后者的一部分则会随着上帝救赎计划的进程而发生变动。预表性的律法在以色列人明白道理和耶稣用自己实现以后就失去意义。但上帝本身的道德律是永远树立和永不改变的。

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SkyJapan
总觉得信教和信上帝不是一回事,教会是人自己的解读
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Confuse
我也不知道呀。只是我读的感觉。我也没读完过。好像有人说是不同的时代吧。时代翻篇了吧。有大牛知道吗?
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:48

这个需要对圣经有多一点的理解。知道时代,背景和预示意义。我不是大牛,讲一下我的理解。简单地说包括一下这些点:
上帝是圣洁的憎恶罪的神 (这个最重要,不知道罪有多糟糕,就没法理解对罪的严格处理) •神的诫命。必须与罪分离:出埃及记,民数记,申命记。。。 •了解罪的可怕,才明白救恩的可贵 •如果罪能轻易洗去,何需耶稣付出他的生命? •“残暴”是与罪和混乱的征战 (在旧约里所谓“残暴“的地方,都是有背景原因的)   “残暴”的背后是和平与祝福的宗旨 •通过以色列人给万民带去祝福(创世纪12章) •战胜罪恶   神的宽容和怜悯在“残暴”之上,比如 •等待亚摩利人的罪恶满盈 –创世纪15章16节,六次容忍所多玛,任凭法老的作为。。
从旧约到新约与罪分离这个原则并没有改变。新约里记载的时间跨度不到一个世纪,远少于旧约,描写了更多的救赎工作。

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Snowpig
前几天cnn有一篇对一个牧师的专访,说的相当不错。他说美国现在的基督徒中有一个趋势,就是要take america back,特别是在三件事上,2020大选,george floyd,以及rasizm。这些事件导致教会的极端两极分化,最终将教会政治化。人们会说,如果你是基督徒,你一定要是共和党。或者说,正因为我是基督徒(我有爱心),所以我必须是民主党。但是God从来没说过要拯救哪个国家,不是save america,而是save american。国家不在了,基督徒还会在。 因为有两极分化的信徒,而信徒的捐赠是牧师的收入,于是就有很多牧师开始极端化,越极端收入越多。 教会现在最大的问题是和世界合流,合流的目的在我看来是获得世界的利益。信和不信的人本来就没有什么相干,哥林多前书六章保罗甚至严厉批评了把教会纷争带到罗马(外邦)法院去解决的做法。同性恋如何,自然有神的审判。事实上保罗在同一章把同性的,醉酒的,淫乱的,栾童的,贪婪的,辱骂的,勒索的都放在同一地位。但是极端牧师从来就不提醉酒的贪婪的辱骂的,因为他们的受众不爱听这个。 耶稣在的时候提到了一个比喻,就是教会的将来。那就是一粒芥菜种长成了一棵参天大树,各样的飞鸟过来栖息。现在这个比喻应验了,教会为了获得表面的繁荣,把自己深深植根在了世界之中,以至于按着世界的样式来治理教会,牧师的讲道从传讲神的话变成了金主爱听什么我就讲什么。这是教会的悲哀,但是这也预示着主要再来的日子近了。


小喵呜 发表于 2022-06-08 12:58

Andy Stanley. 我觉得他说得很好。
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hubaobao80
好奇这样公开发表hate speech的,不会被抓起来吗?这个难道也属于言论自由?他在台上动动嘴拉点捐款无所谓,万一真的有极端的听了去执行怎么办?算共犯吗?
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lp005520
前几天cnn有一篇对一个牧师的专访,说的相当不错。他说美国现在的基督徒中有一个趋势,就是要take america back,特别是在三件事上,2020大选,george floyd,以及rasizm。这些事件导致教会的极端两极分化,最终将教会政治化。人们会说,如果你是基督徒,你一定要是共和党。或者说,正因为我是基督徒(我有爱心),所以我必须是民主党。但是God从来没说过要拯救哪个国家,不是save america,而是save american。国家不在了,基督徒还会在。 因为有两极分化的信徒,而信徒的捐赠是牧师的收入,于是就有很多牧师开始极端化,越极端收入越多。 教会现在最大的问题是和世界合流,合流的目的在我看来是获得世界的利益。信和不信的人本来就没有什么相干,哥林多前书六章保罗甚至严厉批评了把教会纷争带到罗马(外邦)法院去解决的做法。同性恋如何,自然有神的审判。事实上保罗在同一章把同性的,醉酒的,淫乱的,栾童的,贪婪的,辱骂的,勒索的都放在同一地位。但是极端牧师从来就不提醉酒的贪婪的辱骂的,因为他们的受众不爱听这个。 耶稣在的时候提到了一个比喻,就是教会的将来。那就是一粒芥菜种长成了一棵参天大树,各样的飞鸟过来栖息。现在这个比喻应验了,教会为了获得表面的繁荣,把自己深深植根在了世界之中,以至于按着世界的样式来治理教会,牧师的讲道从传讲神的话变成了金主爱听什么我就讲什么。这是教会的悲哀,但是这也预示着主要再来的日子近了。


小喵呜 发表于 2022-06-08 12:58

所以现在的牧师正转型成政治型牧师,而不是教堂里温和的牧师,发表的言论就是那些金主们爱听的,这样这些牧师就可以拿到庞大的捐款,就像政治献金一样。
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pergine
越是恐同的越是深柜,牧师,大胆的出柜吧哈哈哈哈哈
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shoon_yee
一看就是未出柜的
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Confuse
所以现在的牧师正转型成政治型牧师,而不是教堂里温和的牧师,发表的言论就是那些金主们爱听的,这样这些牧师就可以拿到庞大的捐款,就像政治献金一样。
lp005520 发表于 2022-06-08 13:57

这种借神之名为自己牟利的牧师正说明人的深重罪性。
圣经里并未对任何政治制度背书,更不要说某个党某个人。每个人有自己的想法没有问题,回家愿意怎么说是自己的事。但是要借神之名拉大旗那绝对是犯罪。包括有的高级神职人员。

中美律师集团
把这些笃信圣经古兰经,没办法与时代一起进步的极端宗教份子都关到一个岛上去吧。这群人是世界上最大的毒瘤。
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swmbo
崆峒即深柜,看到这种发表极端言论的人,我都默认自己就是,所以要公开划清界限以示清白。
冰糖梨 发表于 2022-06-08 11:59

跟你一样想法。
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generalB
太可怕了!
坏人在台上说,傻子会在台下执行。
之前不是也有极端分子去gay bar搞mass shooting么?这个混蛋还嫌不够。还假借上帝之名。真正的基督徒看到这种人渣应该感到羞愧吧?
兔子过敏 发表于 2022-06-08 12:27

教会本来就是一半是傻子一半是骗子
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superdog97
先让他把教会里性侵孩子的先干掉再说
tinystar01 发表于 2022-06-08 12:20

这个同意,歪门邪道的,一律抵制。不影响其他人的行为,旁人可以鄙视或赞同,取决于旁人的价值观
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g00gle
他长得就像同性恋
freewilly 发表于 2022-06-08 12:15

恐同即深柜
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Dongjie
恐怖分子言论,应该追责。美国政教分离,宣扬谋杀该被审判。
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badgerbadger
太可怕了!
坏人在台上说,傻子会在台下执行。
之前不是也有极端分子去gay bar搞mass shooting么?这个混蛋还嫌不够。还假借上帝之名。真正的基督徒看到这种人渣应该感到羞愧吧?
兔子过敏 发表于 2022-06-08 12:27

Orlando mass shooting
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badgerbadger
这个牧师说的不对。有私欲的人借神之名行的罪不要太多,确实是污秽了神的名。希望大家能够区分。
Confuse 发表于 2022-06-08 13:24

但是美国这样野蛮生长的以基督为名的邪教特别多。
不贤之妻
不贤之妻
就算是不信教的地方,对同性恋的态度也不好,同性恋就是直人社会里的弱势群体
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badgerbadger

不贤之妻 发表于 2022-06-08 17:43

中国这群繁殖癌和美国这群信邪教禁堕胎的真是一丘之貉。
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surge
这个还真不是冤枉God和Bible。这SB言论确实是白布经原文:
Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
littlebig 发表于 2022-06-08 12:38

要说什么都听bible旧约的,那周六加班也是死罪啊 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.
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Mintcafe
did he ever read Bible before? God is love. What he says is pure hate.
applesauce 发表于 2022-06-08 12:31

人若与男人苟合,像与女人一样,他们二人行了可憎的事,总要把他们治死,罪要归到他们身上
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Jaelynleaf
信教的太可怕了,洗脑一流,难怪现在越来越多的年轻人都不信教了。
lp005520 发表于 2022-06-08 11:58

1 男同性恋中,因为情杀和暴力产生的几率远远大于女同 性恋。而且都是非常血腥的。 2 艾滋病的传播,男同性恋做出了很大的贡献。 3 最近英国流传的“ 猴痘”变种,也是在男同性恋中广传。
对一个宗教没有更深的了解,最好不要随便评论。 地球人只是在一个三维的空间,更多的空间还待探索。
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Mintcafe
理论上这些是上帝告诉以色列人,用来约束犹太人的。所以其他人不需要遵守。旧约里的几乎所有部分都可以不管。这是天主教向新教过度时候,神学家提出的观点。后来被绝大多数非天主教教堂采纳。
steve888 发表于 2022-06-08 13:02

“莫想我来要废掉律法和先知;我来不是要废掉,乃是要成全。我实在告诉你们,就是到天地都废去了,律法的一点一画也不能废去,都要成全”
耶稣不同意🤔
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Mintcafe
对的,实际上利未记同一章还有说辱骂父母的,要被处死。我赌从来没有一个牧师在台上讲过辱骂父母的应该把他们排起来枪毙。
小喵呜 发表于 2022-06-08 13:08

新约上还说不要结婚,实在要结婚就不要离婚呢,多少教徒遵守了🤣
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Mintcafe
这个牧师说的不对。有私欲的人借神之名行的罪不要太多,确实是污秽了神的名。希望大家能够区分。
Confuse 发表于 2022-06-08 13:24

那个杀婴屠城,和信徒坐地分赃的神?和那些本来很正常,信了之后开始为这些行为辩护的信徒?
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Jaelynleaf
新约上还说不要结婚,实在要结婚就不要离婚呢,多少教徒遵守了🤣
Mintcafe 发表于 2022-06-08 18:26

哥林多前书 7:28 不过,就算你要结婚,也不是犯罪;没有结过婚的人即使要结婚,也不是犯罪。然而,结婚的人会身受患难。我是想让你们免受患难。
有说,说圣经的话,要标明出处。 圣经的话不可随意更改。
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unsigned
圣经说的欢迎移民 没说要建墙
‘I am a stranger and an alien residing among you; give me property among you for a burying place, so that I may bury my dead out of my sight.’ Genesis 23:4 You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Deuteronomy 10:19 The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 19:34 ‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’ Deuteronomy 27:19 When they were few in number, of little account, and strangers in the land, wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people, he allowed no one to oppress them; he rebuked kings on their account, saying, ‘Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.’ 1 Chronicles 16:19-22 I was eyes to the blind, and feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy, and I championed the cause of the stranger. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous, and made them drop their prey from their teeth. Job 29:15-17 The Lord watches over the strangers; he upholds the orphan and the widow, but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin. Psalm146:9 For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever. Jeremiah 7:5-7 You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. Ezekiel 47:22 Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another. Zechariah 7:9-10 You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you. Matthew 5:43-44 I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me. Matthew 25:35 Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of my brethren you did it to me. Matthew 25:40 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself. Luke 10:27 Then Peter began to speak to them: “I truly understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. Acts 10:34 Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers. Romans 12:13 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8 Love does no wrong to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Romans 13:10 In that renewal there is no longer Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free; but Christ is all and in all. Colossians 3:11 Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured. Hebrews 13:1-3 Beloved, you do faithfully whatever you do for the friends, even though they are strangers to you; they have testified to your love before the church. You do well to send them on in a manner worthy of God; for they began their journey for the sake of Christ, accepting no support from non-believers. Therefore we ought to support such people, so that they may become co-workers with the truth. 3 John 1:5 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “See the home of God is among mortals. He will dwell with them as their God; they will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them.” Revelation 21:3
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pavestone
圣经说的欢迎移民 没说要建墙
‘I am a stranger and an alien residing among you; give me property among you for a burying place, so that I may bury my dead out of my sight.’ Genesis 23:4 You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Deuteronomy 10:19 The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 19:34 ‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’ Deuteronomy 27:19 When they were few in number, of little account, and strangers in the land, wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people, he allowed no one to oppress them; he rebuked kings on their account, saying, ‘Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.’ 1 Chronicles 16:19-22 I was eyes to the blind, and feet to the lame. I was a father to the needy, and I championed the cause of the stranger. I broke the fangs of the unrighteous, and made them drop their prey from their teeth. Job 29:15-17 The Lord watches over the strangers; he upholds the orphan and the widow, but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin. Psalm146:9 For if you truly amend your ways and your doings, if you truly act justly one with another, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own hurt, then I will dwell with you in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your ancestors forever and ever. Jeremiah 7:5-7 You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. Ezekiel 47:22 Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another. Zechariah 7:9-10 You have heard that it was said, ‘you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy’. But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you. Matthew 5:43-44 I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me. Matthew 25:35 Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of my brethren you did it to me. Matthew 25:40 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself. Luke 10:27 Then Peter began to speak to them: “I truly understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. Acts 10:34 Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers. Romans 12:13 Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8 Love does no wrong to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Romans 13:10 In that renewal there is no longer Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free; but Christ is all and in all. Colossians 3:11 Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured. Hebrews 13:1-3 Beloved, you do faithfully whatever you do for the friends, even though they are strangers to you; they have testified to your love before the church. You do well to send them on in a manner worthy of God; for they began their journey for the sake of Christ, accepting no support from non-believers. Therefore we ought to support such people, so that they may become co-workers with the truth. 3 John 1:5 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “See the home of God is among mortals. He will dwell with them as their God; they will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them.” Revelation 21:3
unsigned 发表于 2022-06-08 18:41

现在流行的是半部圣经治天下,究竟有哪半部圣经就仁者见仁 智者见智,圣经里正面反面都说了
不贤之妻
这人应该是深柜,同性恋尤其是男同性恋因为种种原因不能接受自己性取向的,都会变得极端仇视其他同性恋,2016年奥兰多同性恋酒吧mass shooting的枪手也是个深柜同性恋
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ljmdtc
要说什么都听bible旧约的,那周六加班也是死罪啊 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

surge 发表于 2022-06-08 18:10

这说的是周日吧
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Prionlike
现在流行的是半部圣经治天下,究竟有哪半部圣经就仁者见仁 智者见智,圣经里正面反面都说了
pavestone 发表于 2022-06-08 18:45

今日最佳回答
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Mimi4
这都什么人啊?!
冰西瓜
看了视频,觉得挺可怕的。正好上周日参加了一个同性恋教会西好莱坞的Pride Parade, 他们的口号是“ God loves gay"。话说楼主的标题里的中文好像有点小问题: “ 美国的男同性恋。。。。“这个”男“字应该删去。Gay 在这个语境里就是”同性恋“。
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surge
这说的是周日吧
ljmdtc 发表于 2022-06-08 18:56

这个我一直没有搞清楚,有的说Sunday, 有的说Saturday。https://www.britannica.com/topic/Jewish-religious-year/The-Sabbath 的解释Sabbath 是Saturday。

木牛流马
现在真是什么妖魔鬼怪都有
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gokgs
哈哈。 假基督徒吧。 我们谁又不是活在罪中的呢?
落地无声
现在真是什么妖魔鬼怪都有
木牛流马 发表于 2022-06-08 19:55

以前就有,主要是妖魔鬼怪都出来了
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benulj
言论过于自由就会产生极端言论。
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gzzps
1 男同性恋中,因为情杀和暴力产生的几率远远大于女同 性恋。而且都是非常血腥的。 2 艾滋病的传播,男同性恋做出了很大的贡献。 3 最近英国流传的“ 猴痘”变种,也是在男同性恋中广传。
对一个宗教没有更深的了解,最好不要随便评论。 地球人只是在一个三维的空间,更多的空间还待探索。
Jaelynleaf 发表于 2022-06-08 18:23

所以呢?难道就凭这些你就支持那个牧师的言论? 而且你这连数据来源都没有。 真是铁憨憨
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bluesky2012
那些性侵小孩神父的,圣经说怎么办?
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Mintcafe
这说的是周日吧
ljmdtc 发表于 2022-06-08 18:56

犹太教的安息日是星期六
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generalB
那些性侵小孩神父的,圣经说怎么办?
bluesky2012 发表于 2022-06-08 21:55

人民内部矛盾,认真祷告就赎罪了
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Jaelynleaf
所以呢?难道就凭这些你就支持那个牧师的言论? 而且你这连数据来源都没有。 真是铁憨憨
gzzps 发表于 2022-06-08 21:05

你吃错药了吧? 我有反对和支持吗? 所以什么?
我说的三点是事实 你也可以说三点事实反驳 不懂英语,中文总是可以查的吧
真是很寿头
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Jaelynleaf
那些性侵小孩神父的,圣经说怎么办?
bluesky2012 发表于 2022-06-08 21:55

启示录21:8 至于胆怯的、不信的、可憎的、杀人的、淫乱的、通灵的、拜偶像的,以及所有说谎的,他们的下场就是被扔进烧着烈火硫磺的湖里+。这个湖象征第二种死亡。”
有说, 人体是由分子组成的,当人体肉体消亡的时候,分子离散,但是组成 分子的原子和更小的颗粒是存在,并没有消亡,这就是我们说的灵。 关于这个问题,现代微观量子世界也有涉及。 目前还不清楚。
科学的尽头是不是神学? 爱因斯坦和牛顿曾经论述他们相信神的存在。 但是霍金却否认神的存在。 而印度著名的数学家,拉马努金却通过梦写出了3000多个 数学公式,他说是神的指导,至今这些公式后人只证明了 很小一部分。
有兴趣的同学可以自己去寻找拉马努金的数学公式和他的 传奇人生。

爱与自由
崆峒即深柜,看到这种发表极端言论的人,我都默认自己就是,所以要公开划清界限以示清白。
冰糖梨 发表于 2022-06-08 11:59

想起来lady G,还有最近那个gop陨落的帅哥残疾人新星也是
不理解恐同即深柜的这些人,不能真实做自己,ok是你的选择,为啥还要用尽办法阻挠别人真实做自己
爱与自由
政教分离 或者 tax the churches.
teabucket 发表于 2022-06-08 12:24

这个可以有,凭啥教堂这个最大的黑社会不用交税
爱与自由
旧约比较血腥,新约上是强调love呀。爱你的邻居和爱自己一样。
JBJ17 发表于 2022-06-08 12:37


是看到几个不顺眼的人就把整个地球淹掉这么love吗?


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爱与自由
回复 25楼Daylight的帖子
认知局限,旧约成文比较早,那时候什么杀生祭祀,点天灯都是小菜儿
crazyHat 发表于 2022-06-08 13:15

就是个时代爽文,民间故事合集,所以各种逻辑不通
还能用来指导几千年以后生活的方方面面,用来歧视这个歧视那个
你说人类好笑不好笑
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trio2021
真😨啊。
公用马甲45
启示录21:8 至于胆怯的、不信的、可憎的、杀人的、淫乱的、通灵的、拜偶像的,以及所有说谎的,他们的下场就是被扔进烧着烈火硫磺的湖里+。这个湖象征第二种死亡。”
有说, 人体是由分子组成的,当人体肉体消亡的时候,分子离散,但是组成 分子的原子和更小的颗粒是存在,并没有消亡,这就是我们说的灵。 关于这个问题,现代微观量子世界也有涉及。 目前还不清楚。
科学的尽头是不是神学? 爱因斯坦和牛顿曾经论述他们相信神的存在。 但是霍金却否认神的存在。 而印度著名的数学家,拉马努金却通过梦写出了3000多个 数学公式,他说是神的指导,至今这些公式后人只证明了 很小一部分。
有兴趣的同学可以自己去寻找拉马努金的数学公式和他的 传奇人生。


Jaelynleaf 发表于 2022-06-08 22:38

神经病
肥肥当
崆峒即深柜,看到这种发表极端言论的人,我都默认自己就是,所以要公开划清界限以示清白。
冰糖梨 发表于 2022-06-08 11:59

北卡那个坐轮椅的议员就是啊。
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shanggj
这个可以有,凭啥教堂这个最大的黑社会不用交税
爱与自由 发表于 2022-06-08 23:10

感觉光靠收教堂的地产税, 就够支持全民医疗了。
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Mintcafe
旧约里的摩西律法(比如你引用的)有613条。这里要区分moral law和positive law(好像后者还有一个不同的词,现在想不起来)。前者表示神对圣洁的心意和标准,后者则是制定出来的法律以求达到目的并带有奖惩条款。前者亘古不变,后者的一部分则会随着上帝救赎计划的进程而发生变动。预表性的律法在以色列人明白道理和耶稣用自己实现以后就失去意义。但上帝本身的道德律是永远树立和永不改变的。


Confuse 发表于 2022-06-08 13:37

论信耶稣的好处
1,信了耶稣就不必守那些清规戒律了,啰里八嗦的从杀人规范到面盆,多么自在
2,犯了“罪”祷告一下就良心干净了,轻松跳过一般人犯了错误来自良心纠结的谴责,多么方便
3,只要信就能得救,安妮法兰克肯定下地狱,杀她的是教徒就上天堂和耶稣同在,多么正义
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启示录21:8 至于胆怯的、不信的、可憎的、杀人的、淫乱的、通灵的、拜偶像的,以及所有说谎的,他们的下场就是被扔进烧着烈火硫磺的湖里+。这个湖象征第二种死亡。”
有说, 人体是由分子组成的,当人体肉体消亡的时候,分子离散,但是组成 分子的原子和更小的颗粒是存在,并没有消亡,这就是我们说的灵。 关于这个问题,现代微观量子世界也有涉及。 目前还不清楚。
科学的尽头是不是神学? 爱因斯坦和牛顿曾经论述他们相信神的存在。 但是霍金却否认神的存在。 而印度著名的数学家,拉马努金却通过梦写出了3000多个 数学公式,他说是神的指导,至今这些公式后人只证明了 很小一部分。
有兴趣的同学可以自己去寻找拉马努金的数学公式和他的 传奇人生。


Jaelynleaf 发表于 2022-06-08 22:38

这个……原来遗体火化之后,二氧化碳和骨灰就是人的灵啊。