你有看文章内容么？瞎翻译，别光给黄皮俄毛打鸡血了让他们自嗨了。把老毛子拖死才符合美国的利益，拜登说了会一直支援乌克兰。 “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.”
翻了一下原文，确实算暗示了，至少支持乌克兰恢复全部国土的立场不坚定，没有看到半个字提到支持乌克兰恢复全部国土。司机说乌克兰唯一的目标是恢复全部乌克兰国土，而拜登说“ some point along the line, there is going to have to be a negotiated settlement here", 那条line指的是什么？顿巴斯分界线？还是克里米亚？即使指的是2014年以前乌克兰和俄罗斯的分界线，按司机的唯一目标，谈判个P啊~~要是谈判，除了割让乌克兰领土，难道还能让俄罗斯割让领土？听不出背后意思的，都是智商有问题~ President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.”
同期的另一篇文章，拜登支援乌克兰扩大对俄毛战争。 WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a move that could tip the scales in the war against Russia, U.S. President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have reached an agreement to ship Americans’ four hundred million firearms to Ukraine. “The Second Amendment calls for a well-regulated militia necessary to secure a free state,” Biden said. “I can’t think of a better description of what’s going on in Ukraine right now.”
翻了一下原文，确实算暗示了，至少支持乌克兰恢复全部国土的立场不坚定，没有看到半个字提到支持乌克兰恢复全部国土。司机说乌克兰唯一的目标是恢复全部乌克兰国土，而拜登说“ some point along the line, there is going to have to be a negotiated settlement here", 那条line指的是什么？顿巴斯分界线？还是克里米亚？即使指的是2014年以前乌克兰和俄罗斯的分界线，按司机的唯一目标，谈判个P啊~~要是谈判，除了割让乌克兰领土，难道还能让俄罗斯割让领土？听不出背后意思的，都是智商有问题~ President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.” 头文字D 发表于 2022-06-05 11:28
当地时间5日，俄罗斯国防部表示，俄军对基辅进行了空袭，摧毁了东欧国家提供给乌克兰的T-72坦克和其他装甲车。 Live: Ukraine says Russia struck Kyiv using missiles fired by strategic bombers (france24.com) https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220605-street-fighting-intensifies-in-sievierodonetsk-as-explosions-rock-kyiv-after-missile-attack
回复 1楼blueskyt的帖子 美国欧洲司令部前副司令斯蒂芬·特威蒂中将： So there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.
https://www.cfr.org/event/russias-war-ukraine-how-does-it-end Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?
HAASS: General Twitty? TWITTY: Yeah. Richard, I’m going to give a little bit more color in terms of what I’m seeing here. I think the war in the Donbas is starting to turn to the Russians’ favor, and when you take a look at—and I’m particularly talking about the eastern part of the Donbas—the Russians have transitioned from trying to pour all their combat power into the Donbas to obliterating every single town. Whether it be Rubizhne, Lyman, they’re working now on Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk as well, they’re obliterating these particular towns, and that’s how they’re making their headway. They’re not putting a bunch of combat power with infantry forces and tanks in there. They’ve taken all their artillery and they’re treating it like Mariupol and that’s how they’re making their headway. So they’re starting to make some headway in the eastern Donbas and so we have to watch that one closely. HAASS: Given this situation, I have one question—one more question about the current situation and then I want to transition to issues of goals and war termination and the rest. Given that we are where we are and there’s more agreement than disagreement among us by far, would anyone at this point argue for a major change in Western policy, that we ought to add something that’s qualitatively—like, for example, one could say we ought to try to accelerate gas sanctions against Russia—that might be one thing. There’s the question of equipment deliveries to Ukraine. But, basically, are the contours of policy set or am I missing something? Why don’t we reverse it? General Twitty, is there something that the president said? Are things we’re not doing that we should be doing? Is there things that you would recommend at this point? TWITTY: Well, as I take a look at this, you know, Secretary Austin came out that we’re going to weaken Russia. We have not really defined what weaken means, because if you take a look at the Ukrainians right now, I take a strong belief in Colin Powell’s doctrine—you overwhelm a particular enemy with force. And right now, when you take a look at Ukraine and you take a look at Russia, they’re about one to one. The only difference is Russia has a heck of a lot of combat power than the Ukrainians. And so there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.
翻了一下原文，确实算暗示了，至少支持乌克兰恢复全部国土的立场不坚定，没有看到半个字提到支持乌克兰恢复全部国土。司机说乌克兰唯一的目标是恢复全部乌克兰国土，而拜登说“ some point along the line, there is going to have to be a negotiated settlement here", 那条line指的是什么？顿巴斯分界线？还是克里米亚？即使指的是2014年以前乌克兰和俄罗斯的分界线，按司机的唯一目标，谈判个P啊~~要是谈判，除了割让乌克兰领土，难道还能让俄罗斯割让领土？听不出背后意思的，都是智商有问题~ President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.” 头文字D 发表于 2022-06-05 11:28
这个some point along the line说的是时间线，就是将来的某一时间点。你咋会理解成停战分割线的。
翻了一下原文，确实算暗示了，至少支持乌克兰恢复全部国土的立场不坚定，没有看到半个字提到支持乌克兰恢复全部国土。司机说乌克兰唯一的目标是恢复全部乌克兰国土，而拜登说“ some point along the line, there is going to have to be a negotiated settlement here", 那条line指的是什么？顿巴斯分界线？还是克里米亚？即使指的是2014年以前乌克兰和俄罗斯的分界线，按司机的唯一目标，谈判个P啊~~要是谈判，除了割让乌克兰领土，难道还能让俄罗斯割让领土？听不出背后意思的，都是智商有问题~ President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.” 头文字D 发表于 2022-06-05 11:28
这理解能力，无语。。。这里面的some point along the line只是个figure of speech，并不是literally指一条physical line，跟你说的分界线根本不是一回事。他的意思是战事发展到某个点的时候就需要坐下来谈判了。
NYP真会造谣，大标题看着好像是拜登说乌克兰非得割地求和，正文不是这么说的，正文是这么说： President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. 拜登当然不能rule out，如何谈判，是乌克兰和俄罗斯的事儿，不是米国可以决定的，有错吗？
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不是乌克兰一直打的都不错吗？都快打到莫斯科了好吧
Boris Johnson wins confidence vote
前提是俄军伤亡巨大，平民生活质量严重下降。
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印度人就比较精明。又赌对了。
乌克兰最精锐的8万主力，在乌东修建8年的工事里面，现在被全面合围。马上就要孟良崮张灵甫了。
所以下周要和沙特见面
“Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report.
“From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.”
President Biden on Friday declined to rule out Ukraine having to cede part of its territory to Russia in order to end Moscow’s more than three-month-old invasion. “Does Ukraine have to cede territory to achieve peace?” a reporter asked Biden after his remarks on the May jobs report. “From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do. “But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.”
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a move that could tip the scales in the war against Russia, U.S. President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have reached an agreement to ship Americans’ four hundred million firearms to Ukraine. “The Second Amendment calls for a well-regulated militia necessary to secure a free state,” Biden said. “I can’t think of a better description of what’s going on in Ukraine right now.”
当然会停战，乌不可能灭了俄毛，但拜登已经说了是乌克兰的选择。只要他们不放弃，支援就会不断。到黄俄嘴里就成了劝降，背着乌达成协议。
美国当然不会说，你投降吧，你割让领土吧~ 但是，司机已经明确说了，恢复乌克兰全部领土，就是乌克兰的唯一目标。美国不表态支持司机的目标，半个字也不提，代表什么？ 乌克兰恢复全部领土，义正词严啊，美国作为盟友，为什么不明确表态支持？ 你不会看不懂这背后的意思吧？
自俄罗斯于今年2月24日对乌克兰发动“特别军事行动”后，北欧国家芬兰和瑞典出于安全担忧便提出要加入北约。然而，北约成员国之一的土耳其却对两国的申请表示反对，理由是这两国一直和被土耳其视为“恐怖组织”的库尔德人势力关系密切。 不过，从土耳其媒体的报道来看，在芬兰和瑞典之间，土耳其政府更厌恶的是瑞典。因为瑞典议会的一名女议员不仅与库尔德人关系密切，还多次要求瑞典政府支持库尔德人的政治诉求。 可问题是，瑞典政府却不能无视这名女议员的诉求——因为她虽然是个独立议员，不属于任何政党，却在瑞典特殊的政治格局下，有着可以决定瑞典政府命运的分量。 她叫阿米尼·卡卡巴维（Amineh Kakabaveh），上世纪70年代出生于伊朗，19岁时以难民的身份来到瑞典定居，并在2008年时从政。 同时，她还是一名库尔德人，曾在13岁时加入过伊朗的库尔德人武装，当过一段时间的娃娃兵。此事不仅被她自己承认过，也被一些库德尔人的网站所介绍过。 甚至，在瑞典政府表示瑞典议会没有人支持“库尔德工人党”这种欧盟认定的“恐怖组织”后，土耳其媒体TRTWorld还撰文“扒”了一番卡卡巴维支持该组织的“黑历史”，称她曾在2016年时呼吁瑞典的决策者把“库尔德工人党”从欧盟的“恐怖组织”名单上移除。 所以，在成为瑞典议员后，卡卡巴维一直很关注生活在多个中东国家的库尔德人的命运，并希望利用自己的政治身份去影响瑞典政府对于库尔德人的看法，给库尔德人提供支持。 而去年，卡卡巴维终于迎来了一个重要的机会。 当时，瑞典时任首相斯特凡·勒文（Stefan Lofven）因为输掉了议会的“不信任案”投票而被弹劾辞职，随后，他的财政部长玛格达莱娜·安德松（Magdalena Andersson）因为赢得了瑞典执政党社会民主党（简称社民党）党首的选举，准备接任勒文成为瑞典的新首相。根据瑞典法律，只有当反对安德松当首相的人不超过议会的一半时，她才能上任。这意味着，在一共349席的瑞典议会里，安德森遭到的反对不能达到175票。 最终，因为卡卡巴维的支持，安德松才以174票反对、117票支持、57票弃权的微弱优势涉险过关，成为瑞典史上首位女首相。尽管安德松在短短8个小时后就因为财政预算案遭到否决，与社民党联合执政的绿党退出这一风波而一度失去首相宝座，但随后她再次以173票反对的微弱优势成功过关，正式成为瑞典首相。而这次卡卡巴维亦发挥了重要的作用。 当然，卡卡巴维并不是因为安德松是女性才支持她的。根据美国彭博社的报道，她给安德松开出了一个条件：安德松的党派需要扩大与库尔德人的合作，尤其是叙利亚的库尔德民主联盟党（PYD）。 安德松当时立刻答应了卡卡巴维。但恐怕令她没有想到的是，这个当时看起来似乎对瑞典没什么影响的承诺，如今却成了瑞典能否加入北约的命门。因为土耳其政府一直看卡卡巴维不爽，认为她的做法就是在煽动瑞典支持危害土耳其国家安全的“恐怖分子”。所以，当对瑞典能否加入北约拥有“否决权”的土耳其政府，要求瑞典安德松政府必须与“恐怖分子”划清界限时，其言下之意自然就包括安德松不能支持叙利亚库尔德民主联盟党这个土耳其政府眼中“恐怖分子的分支机构”。 不过，瑞典政府更大的麻烦还在后头。根据彭博社的报道，瑞典政府如今再次陷入了新一轮的危机。随着9月瑞典大选的临近，瑞典的反对派瑞典民主党，突然对安德松政府的司法部长摩根·约翰松（Morgan Johansson）发起了“不信任案”投票，想要弹劾他。理由是约翰松无力维护瑞典的社会秩序和法律尊严。 而魔幻的是，被土耳其所厌恶的卡卡巴维，再次成了能决定约翰松会不会被弹劾的关键人物。因为目前约翰松已经获得了174票的反对，再多一票就得走人。更要命的是，首相安德松此前为了阻拦这次不信任案投票，还立了一个天大的Flag，威胁说如果约翰松被弹劾，她也会辞职。 所以，美国的彭博社、福克斯新闻网以及法国的法新社等西方媒体，此刻都在围观此事的进展，想知道安德松的政府会不会为了让瑞典加入北约而向土耳其“低头”，又会为此付出多少政治代价。 --
真正民主的体制就是做不到。
二战后，美军打的战都不是军事上失败后不得不退出，就是国内民意反战的结果！
最典型的是 越战，那时越南损失了90万，美军损失5万左右，美国因为国内大规模反战 就打不下去。
你要觉得美国一点这样的意思都没有，把你的观点和论据摆出来就可以了，不要扯别的
Live: Ukraine says Russia struck Kyiv using missiles fired by strategic bombers (france24.com) https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220605-street-fighting-intensifies-in-sievierodonetsk-as-explosions-rock-kyiv-after-missile-attack
美国欧洲司令部前副司令斯蒂芬·特威蒂中将：
So there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.
https://www.cfr.org/event/russias-war-ukraine-how-does-it-end Russia's War in Ukraine: How Does it End?
HAASS: General Twitty? TWITTY: Yeah. Richard, I’m going to give a little bit more color in terms of what I’m seeing here. I think the war in the Donbas is starting to turn to the Russians’ favor, and when you take a look at—and I’m particularly talking about the eastern part of the Donbas—the Russians have transitioned from trying to pour all their combat power into the Donbas to obliterating every single town. Whether it be Rubizhne, Lyman, they’re working now on Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk as well, they’re obliterating these particular towns, and that’s how they’re making their headway. They’re not putting a bunch of combat power with infantry forces and tanks in there. They’ve taken all their artillery and they’re treating it like Mariupol and that’s how they’re making their headway. So they’re starting to make some headway in the eastern Donbas and so we have to watch that one closely. HAASS: Given this situation, I have one question—one more question about the current situation and then I want to transition to issues of goals and war termination and the rest. Given that we are where we are and there’s more agreement than disagreement among us by far, would anyone at this point argue for a major change in Western policy, that we ought to add something that’s qualitatively—like, for example, one could say we ought to try to accelerate gas sanctions against Russia—that might be one thing. There’s the question of equipment deliveries to Ukraine. But, basically, are the contours of policy set or am I missing something? Why don’t we reverse it? General Twitty, is there something that the president said? Are things we’re not doing that we should be doing? Is there things that you would recommend at this point?
TWITTY: Well, as I take a look at this, you know, Secretary Austin came out that we’re going to weaken Russia. We have not really defined what weaken means, because if you take a look at the Ukrainians right now, I take a strong belief in Colin Powell’s doctrine—you overwhelm a particular enemy with force. And right now, when you take a look at Ukraine and you take a look at Russia, they’re about one to one. The only difference is Russia has a heck of a lot of combat power than the Ukrainians.
And so there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.
这个some point along the line说的是时间线，就是将来的某一时间点。你咋会理解成停战分割线的。
她们几个不会，不懂，既没有那个知识面，也没有逻辑分析能力，不要太勉强她们了。就知道举牌贴标签，骂骂别人，自己就赢了。
炸的是存放西方援助的军火的军火库，据说又是一大批美国援助的重型装备被炸了，还没开封。
尊重你的理解，但请问，为什么美国不明确支持乌克兰的目标呢？ 在我看来，从乌克兰和乌克兰盟友的立场来说，司机的目标义正言辞啊，司机说，恢复全部乌克兰的全部领土就是唯一目标。为什么美国不明确支持呢？
之前的目的是一个听话的傀儡的乌克兰，现在可以是要签订协议永久收回沙俄的领土。
俺本来也很少看。 美帝的角色不很光彩吧， 本来这场战争就应该完全避免。 完全就是古巴导弹危机的翻版， 为什么不各自后退一步呢？ 打仗， 出了军火商， 没有赢家。
印度这次赢很大，了解一下。
这个世界很神奇。
拜登说了全力帮助乌守卫自己，割地还是全面收复是乌自己的决定。美国要承诺收复全境直接出兵就行了，就俄毛这拉胯样， 一天就能打回去了。
这理解能力，无语。。。这里面的some point along the line只是个figure of speech，并不是literally指一条physical line，跟你说的分界线根本不是一回事。他的意思是战事发展到某个点的时候就需要坐下来谈判了。
因为俄乌战争现在胶着状态了。没啥进展。所以大家也没啥兴趣了。除非有什么大事件发生。 伊拉克战争阿富汗战争期间，每天都占头条吗? 大家都知道这是一场持久战。
只要乌克兰能一直撑着不投降，欧美保证他一直都武器供应，经济上面有支持。俄罗斯就输了。 因为长久战耗下去对俄罗斯极为不利。所以俄粉们每天都蹦跶着想要乌克兰投降。 二三月份的时候乌克兰都没投降，现在要投降，还是做梦去吧。
貌似2021年底白宫就辟谣了。https://www.newsweek.com/absolutely-false-biden-pressured-ukraine-cede-land-russia-avoid-war-psaki-1657933?amp=1
这人英文实在够呛，阅读理解不及格
俄乌战争一直占据媒体的头条啊，从day 1 到现在day 102,并没有放弃～～ 在可以自由讨论的地方也一直聊着呢～～
没发现最近都没有“战地新闻”了么
按西媒的尿性，俄军信息一定是被过滤的，乌军自己不会报坏消息
所以，你懂的。。。
没事，如果你把头埋进沙子 nothing will happen 乌军正在向莫斯科挺进， 小泽司机9岁儿子指挥
俄罗斯与西方隔绝，但西方与世界其他地区隔绝
这个总结非常到位， 意大利人大战烂泥巴一样， 站队却一如既往的精明，2次世界大战都死里逃生
你咋知道我浓眉大眼？我和潮水哥差不多的款，不是你的菜，
你这种情绪，叫denial
你这乌贼急的上火也没用，大家都是看戏的， 你入戏太深
什么割地，司机说了，绝不割地，收复全部领土就是唯一目标。然后拜登还在那强调，割地还是全面收复是乌自己决定？
这就好比，你是我兄弟，你告诉我，你很爱你女朋友，你明天就要和她结婚了，然后我在你旁边说，你分手还是结婚，你自己决定吧，LOL，你真傻还是假傻？
发现一个规律，战事激烈的时候就没有多少战场上的视频流出来，战事僵持的时候流出来的视频就多一些
任何negotiation都是拿着乌方放弃部分主权在谈判，领土也好，军事也好，入北约也好。任何可能的谈判结果对乌克兰来说都是不平等条约。
要是美国真的挺乌，那根本不会提negotiation，应该是俄方unconditionally withdraw，美方支持乌全面抵抗侵略。俄方的各种诉求，美方没有一个觉得是合理的，那又怎么negotiate呢？
正解，乌克兰方面都说了，收复全部国土就是唯一的目标，不会就主权和领土谈判，这么义正词严，美国直接说无条件支持不就好啦？negotiate个P啊，当大家三岁小孩，听不懂背后的意思啊？
Wait, 这个版上好像不少人确实在装三岁小孩，LOL
我看你是真傻还一根筋，俄毛还说制裁对自己没影响呢，中共还说自己是人权好五倍呢。
乌克兰到现在没有表达过要反侵略俄罗斯的任何意图，只有你这种支持侵略者的人才觉得别人也必须侵略才可以理解
大哥，我们在谈拜登的话的意思，你给我扯到西天远，你是词穷理尽了吗？
如果你连拜登这么简单的话都整不明白， 我确实没法帮你。
确实很简单啊，连无条件支持乌克兰收复全部国土的话都说不出，LOL
BTW，我没有责怪拜登的任何意思，我赞成美国国家利益优先！
America First !
从闪击战变成持久战，普京就输了
和id单身妈妈对2修的理解能力一样
在华人网ID们的梦里面，普京早就输的连裤子都没了，小泽司机已经加冕为地球的emperor, 小泽9岁小儿子现在是乌克兰国王，2百斤天天吓的瑟瑟发抖
这是你的梦吧
诶呀谁是总统啊，真应该找你这种说话滴水不漏的人去做总统，太委屈你了，哈哈
咦，奇怪了，为什么要点我的名？我一再指出俄乌大战是一战水平的菜鸡互啄，双方都打得无比拉胯，有什么地方不对吗？
哈哈哈哈哈哈，发现挺俄的ID们特别喜欢这种事实含量为零的情绪化输出
给不熟悉俄乌大战形势的各位普及一下，下面是乌东战场昨天的战线地图，俄军在过去的一个月内调动全军精锐，试图合围乌军的北顿茨涅克——西利昌斯克突出部，也就是右上角那个绿圈。这两个城市在2014年东乌内战之前大概各有10万人，现在几乎是空城。到今天为止，俄军北边在北顿河以北一直过不了河，南边的攻势被挡在在一个叫Bakhmut的小城市附近的乌军防线上，绿圈内部有被合围危险的是2000左右北顿茨涅克守军和一万多西利昌斯克守军。
北顿茨涅克在北顿河的北岸，桥已经大部分被炸，防守困难，半个月前就有传言说乌军即将弃守，俄军和伪军最多的时候控制了80%以上的市区。离谱的事情发生在前两天，乌军的断后部队突然狠狠反杀了一波，夺回了部分市区，东乌伪军和车臣雇佣军伤亡惨重，现在市区双方大概各控制一半。
你是用Google translate的吗，能不能真人说说这段虾米意思 “即使是土耳其这样一个重要的北约国家，它通过向基辅提供非常有效的武器系统为乌克兰的防御做出了贡献，也已经远离西方的制裁。不应忘记，土耳其军队现在是北约第二大军队，仅次于与此同时，土耳其控制着与俄罗斯、中东和中亚有关的战略决定性地区，并且每次都在地中海发挥着越来越积极的作用，包括向这样的国家派兵，”
俄乌战争 谁胜谁负 最近的油价最有发言权 其他的假媒真媒 就别管他了
Major general是少将
被打死的这位现在是东乌伪军的最高军事长官，东乌伪军这一段时间伤亡极为惨重
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1533518405042589697
Ok. 一颗星
只有你土共喜欢说什么无下限无底线合作这样的话，也有脸皮不兑现，美国还是要脸一点的。
俺可是一直站俄罗斯的，哈哈。
这明显是古巴导弹危机的反版，都不妥协，就打呗。打完了，就消停了。谁会赢，我也不知道。我觉得大毛赢的可能性还是比较大的。
愚蠢的人和政策，只有流血才能治愈， 看看美国愚蠢的枪击政策一样，唯有流血。
还是那句，蒋介石抵抗什么啊，学汪精卫不好吗
就点几个平时喜欢讨论俄乌战争的人出来点评一下，你是俄乌战争发帖第一人，你不否认吧？版上俄乌战争的贴，估计一半都是你发的，LOL
跟毛子站统一战线的人绝对不是美国国家利益优先。
谁和毛子站统一战线？我第一站中国，第二站美国，大毛二毛谁打赢，我根本不在乎
有些同志 真是替俄罗斯 操够了心
真是爱普京爱上了
天天看 人民日报， 新华社和 ＣＣＡＶ 的
不知道如何融入美国文化
哈哈哈
你能把中国跟乌克兰比，智商也够猛的。
美国第一优先是解散北约，赶紧先把国内治安搞好。
我发帖多但是从一开始就认为俄乌两边的水平都很差，从来没有一厢情愿的相信优势在俄或者在乌。当然了，俄罗斯只要能全国总动员打出我说的虫族战法，几个月就能把乌克兰吞掉
不用担心和解释，哥我96小时被你们抓住，还不是活得好好的，大家随便聊聊，哥也不会重提你们的往事，最多提一两次就忘记了，LOL
大家畅所欲言，只要不要象某些大妈一样，上来就贴标签骂人就好啦，我们都当一个有水准的讨论者，立场不一样没关系
你发的讨论帖还是很感谢的，我现在平时都不专门找俄乌战争的新闻了，你可以时不时update我们
对了，据说俄罗斯自从换了打法后，人命损失很少，你怎么看？
不合逻辑，为啥要把美国的武器放在基辅？
比一开始到处瞎穿插的时候损失肯定是少啊，“几乎没有损失”那是不可能的，每天有照片视频实锤确认的损失还是一堆，Oryx那里每天都有总结。东乌伪军帮忙承担了相当一部分损失倒是很可能的
这么好的机会，美国这么会放过？美国不出一兵一卒，赢回欧洲领导位置，证明了自己的实力， 让对美有威胁的俄国倒退20年， 让中国忌惮攻台。
北约解散？那美国的世界霸权地位体现在哪儿？
所以美帝比较黑， 欧洲比较傻阿。 长期来说， 对人类未必是好事。
🦢粉觉得辱骂司机总统没有效果，估计马上要发布司机夫人黑材料
一战，俄罗斯打一半，国内爆发革命了。 沙皇权力比普金小不？ 最后全家被枪毙