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Myth #1: Defund Means Abolish One of the most misleading critiques of the movement is instigating defund means abolish. Opposers claim the movement undermines public safety through its efforts to end policing. The truth: the movement seeks to demilitarize police departments and reallocate funding to trained mental health workers and social workers to reduce unnecessary violent encounters between police and citizens. At least 13 cities in the United States have currently engaged in policy programs to defund the police. Myth #2: Defunding Will Lead to Disorder Another misconception is that police forces are what maintains order. However, studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are equity in education and infrastructure. Indeed, research shows that lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations. Myth #3: Police Protect the Public From Violence Critics of the police movement assert that we need heavily funded and armed police forces to protect the public from violent criminal elements. However, there isn’t sufficient data to support that position. In fact, research has found that the police don’t have a notoriously efficient track record of solving violent crime. Further, what the research does show is that 70% of robberies, 66% of rapes, 47% of aggravated assaults, and 38% of murders go unsolved each year.
Myth #1: Defund Means Abolish One of the most misleading critiques of the movement is instigating defund means abolish. Opposers claim the movement undermines public safety through its efforts to end policing. The truth: the movement seeks to demilitarize police departments and reallocate funding to trained mental health workers and social workers to reduce unnecessary violent encounters between police and citizens. At least 13 cities in the United States have currently engaged in policy programs to defund the police. Myth #2: Defunding Will Lead to Disorder Another misconception is that police forces are what maintains order. However, studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are equity in education and infrastructure. Indeed, research shows that lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations. Myth #3: Police Protect the Public From Violence Critics of the police movement assert that we need heavily funded and armed police forces to protect the public from violent criminal elements. However, there isn’t sufficient data to support that position. In fact, research has found that the police don’t have a notoriously efficient track record of solving violent crime. Further, what the research does show is that 70% of robberies, 66% of rapes, 47% of aggravated assaults, and 38% of murders go unsolved each year. 爱与自由 发表于 2022-05-27 07:43
是啊
要他们有啥用啊
不能派sniper看看能不能狙吗？
这是正解，如果警察必须保护个人，万一没保护成功受害人被杀，警察和政府就等着被告破产吧。
但这次不是保护个人，而是保护公共安全。
40 分钟不可能只有手枪。否则 AR 泛滥，但警察就 40 分钟征用不到 AR？自相矛盾啊。
光听你的描述我就快要疯了！
关键是感觉警察对这种情况连个预案都没有，反应及其迟钝
所以要改的是法律 恶意诉讼天价赔偿不禁止的话 整个社会的运行成本都会变得很高
说真的家长这么多人冲进去把凶犯制服比在外面被警察阻拦后半辈子活在guilt和悔恨里强多了。
这是正常的。警察这么做说明他是正常人。所以才更要禁枪。歹徒没枪警察有枪，警察才敢去和歹徒搏斗。警察只有保证自己安全了才能去保护别人的安全。
这帮警察就是能拖就拖，最好凶手自杀再进去，对他们而言最省事，真可耻。
Defund the police!
或者至少警察渎职扣退休金，而不是纳税人来为他们的行为负责
然而gop宁可给警察升级到军队装备，警察培训都说对路人要像predator一样，也不愿意禁/控枪
就为了那点政治献金，留着给自己买地狱的火锅吧
拿着几千年前的一本爽文合集抠字眼真挺可笑的
想象一下用金庸甄嬛传指导生活的方方面面
这帮老乌龟良心都让狗吃了
我也是来美国时间长了，历史和时政了解的越多，变得越“左”，毕竟美国的左是其他发达国家的右
长期生活在谣言圈的人才能无脑支持tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz这样烂到骨子里的贱人。红脖是因为宗教和环境，华人是因为语言障碍
虽然我反对BLM 打砸抢,但我绝对支持defund the police. Bullshit太多, pension 还高呢。就是要给点color see see
rerere!
联邦最高法院的那个判例，还是有一些问题的。衡平掌握的不是太恰当。
也间接鼓励了人美帝人人有枪的社会。
警察基本人手一把AR，还是全自动，火力绝对完爆凶手。
俺个人认为，既然roevswade能推翻，那两个判例也应该可以推翻
这都不是重点，重点是杀了罪犯，这些圣母就一个个冲出来，他还是个十八岁的孩子！他从未犯过罪….各种花式show高尚！一个满身red flag的GF都被捧成民族英雄，我不是警察都觉得寒心。再说，要是天使，那咋办？自己作为社会公敌进去了，拜总，破婆这一堆八十高龄的还得再跪？
Myth #1: Defund Means Abolish One of the most misleading critiques of the movement is instigating defund means abolish. Opposers claim the movement undermines public safety through its efforts to end policing. The truth: the movement seeks to demilitarize police departments and reallocate funding to trained mental health workers and social workers to reduce unnecessary violent encounters between police and citizens. At least 13 cities in the United States have currently engaged in policy programs to defund the police.
Myth #2: Defunding Will Lead to Disorder Another misconception is that police forces are what maintains order. However, studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are equity in education and infrastructure. Indeed, research shows that lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations.
Myth #3: Police Protect the Public From Violence Critics of the police movement assert that we need heavily funded and armed police forces to protect the public from violent criminal elements. However, there isn’t sufficient data to support that position. In fact, research has found that the police don’t have a notoriously efficient track record of solving violent crime. Further, what the research does show is that 70% of robberies, 66% of rapes, 47% of aggravated assaults, and 38% of murders go unsolved each year.
中国警察主要的主要作用是维稳。镇压老百姓。
这业务熟练得。啧啧啧。 那咱也不能落后啊，简单逻辑推理一下。左X只能与罪犯共情，骨子里都是罪犯情节，是不是想着defund警察后可以天天干一票大的？
等枪都禁了 入室歹徒更加无所顾忌 你就只有待宰羔羊的份
对 就是顺应主媒 要defund 警察 +控枪/禁枪 平民真的是脑子要坏掉才会同时支持这俩
非常有组织性。先讨论事件，再断章取义找出一些泪点细节，然后推禁枪，接着鼓动游行。
好一个层层推进。静待下一步。
你扯什么呢？ 还用等吗？还“待“宰羔羊？孩子们和老师们已！经！被杀了！ 你最好拿好你的枪，待在家里永远别出来。那美国比中国唯一的好处可能就只剩下没有大白了。
这些人除了当警察找不到啥体面工作，也就是翻翻肉饼扛扛大包
你来告诉我政府一方面要defund policy,一方面把大家的枪收走，人们应该怎么自卫？
police并没有义务和职责保护你，这个是不是已经made clear了？不然警察早就在那小学里了，怎么还会死这么多人呢。 民众枪支保有率越高，police和民众之间就越会形成军备竞赛，然后发生误伤可能性更高。你看看加拿大警察开多少枪就明白了。
ps 我不支持defund police但支持控枪，控枪，不是禁。
可是控枪制止不了这种平时没事，到时候发疯的疯子啊 这个拉莫斯就顺利通过了背景调查，合法买的枪啊 你说年龄限制提高到21岁，难道没有21岁以上的疯子？ 前几次大屠杀好几个21岁以上啊
控枪我也支持啊，现有的枪支法律要么没有好好执行，要么就是太容易让这些不法之徒拿到。版上几个带节奏的混淆视听，把控枪和禁枪混着说，居心叵测啊。
脊背发凉
这个拉莫斯能轻易买到枪就说明现在控得不够啊。 控枪难道就是年龄限制提一下这么简单嘛。那21岁以上的女人随便堕胎可以吗？ 哪国都会有疯子，哪里也杜绝不了枪击案。但是世界上其他国家都有疯子，为啥大规模枪击案件频率比美国低那么多呢。
同意，我之前是不支持defund警察的 ，最近跟highway patrol打交道，就是拿个报告，我坚持上面的信息不全，去了四五次了，每次都是个白人老头接待，人家就说没有问题，让我走，我说打电话给highway patrol办公室让提交narrative，他们会说接线的人不懂，他们才是officer。最后我拿了台子上的paper提交了。我现在也支持dedund警察，拿着纳税人的钱，别说是冒险的工作了，就是文职在办公室里面，有事找他，根本不理你，还说一堆的风凉话。
法律这么规定莫不是让民众自己持枪保护自己吗？