以后遇到flight delay causing you the probability of missing your connecting flight, always flight to your connecting airport first... there''s always a slight chance of you making the flight.. 不要像我一样, 在departure airport就改itenerary
以后遇到flight delay causing you the probability of missing your connecting flight, always flight to your connecting airport first... there''s always a slight chance of you making the flight.. 不要像我一样, 在departure airport就改itenerary tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 14:32
以后遇到flight delay causing you the probability of missing your connecting flight, always flight to your connecting airport first... there''s always a slight chance of you making the flight.. 不要像我一样, 在departure airport就改itenerary tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 14:32
CLJ - airport in Romania FRA- Frankfurt airport in Gemany YVR- Vancouvor airport in Canada MUC - Munich airport in Gemany SFO - San Fransisco airport SEA - Seattle Tocoma airport Original Plan: Plan B: LZ actual flight after FRA over night:
Ref trip to Sydney: LZ read EU Regulation 261 regarding comp.
CLJ - airport in Romania FRA- Frankfurt airport in Gemany YVR- Vancouvor airport in Canada MUC - Munich airport in Gemany SFO - San Fransisco airport SEA - Seattle Tocoma airport Original Plan: Plan B: LZ actual flight after FRA over night:
Ref trip to Sydney: LZ read EU Regulation 261 regarding comp. yolandos 发表于 2022-05-21 18:13
Lufthansa itself is ok. I take it a lot because it has a direct flight from seattle to Frankfurt, so it's usually the shortest flight if I want to go to Balkans, etc. And it's usually the cheapest The bad is Germany and Germans. First, it's a pain in the ass that it still requires a mask... Second of all, the police at Frankfurt airport is rude, egotistic, and racist... 前几天看说hasidic jew被frankfurt 机场警察arrest, 我和那里的警察也因为masks, 起过冲突。。。 然后你在frankfurt机场吃个饭, 结账时候, 那些waiter/waitress还问你要tip。。 我昨天吃了个早饭, 结账时候, 被问, do you want to leave any tip? I said no. I was just in romania for a month, and I didn't have to tip for any meal!!!! I am getting pissed about tipping.. so I said no... and the woman was like, are you not happy with the service or the food? I was like, no, it was ok. Then the waitress was like, well, then 10% is custom for service... I was forced to pay for a fuccking tip!!!!! I mean, in Germany, and in Europe in general, waiters/waitresses are decently paid!!! It's not like they are paid below minimum wage!
CLJ - airport in Romania FRA- Frankfurt airport in Gemany YVR- Vancouvor airport in Canada MUC - Munich airport in Gemany SFO - San Fransisco airport SEA - Seattle Tocoma airport Original Plan: Plan B: LZ actual flight after FRA over night:
Ref trip to Sydney: LZ read EU Regulation 261 regarding comp. yolandos 发表于 2022-05-21 18:13
OMG!!! You are a genius!!! except that the reference flight to Sydney, i think the transit airport was in chicago, instead of LAX? But I really can't remember
yeah, Frankfurt airport was full of frustrated travelers.. I heard there was some thunderstorm.. so when I got to Frankfurt, I went to terminal A to get a hotel voucher from Lufthansa. I think all of terminal A belongs to Lufthansa. And it was full of people trying to rebook..
就一次啊, 我在Romania呆了一个月。。 你们德国那边的food, 咸的我, 太他妈的salt了!!!我在romania, 没吃过一顿好的。 最后一顿dinner, 一个waitress问我how''s the food. 然后我说, too salty. I was hoping that she can take the dish back to the kitchen and have the chef to make it less salty.. 结果她只是很racist的说, it''s romania 然后我想, 那你他妈的问我 how''s the food 干嘛??!
就一次啊, 我在Romania呆了一个月。。 你们德国那边的food, 咸的我, 太他妈的salt了!!!我在romania, 没吃过一顿好的。 最后一顿dinner, 一个waitress问我how's the food. 然后我说, too salty. I was hoping that she can take the dish back to the kitchen and have the chef to make it less salty.. 结果她只是很racist的说, it's romania
yeah, Frankfurt airport was full of frustrated travelers.. I heard there was some thunderstorm.. so when I got to Frankfurt, I went to terminal A to get a hotel voucher from Lufthansa. I think all of terminal A belongs to Lufthansa. And it was full of people trying to rebook.. tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 22:10
The german language is so hard sounding, the way the language sounds is just like how Germans act.. always a stick up their ass.. Romanian are similar tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 22:27
Lufthansa is OK. I don't like it because it still requires a mask, and the food is below average. The food in economy is just nasty pasta.. there's no meat.. Even in business, it's a 2 2 2 configuration. So you are always sitting next to someone even in business. I really dislike Frankfurt and German people..
Lufthansa is OK. I don't like it because it still requires a mask, and the food is below average. The food in economy is just nasty pasta.. there's no meat.. Even in business, it's a 2 2 2 configuration. So you are always sitting next to someone even in business. I really dislike Frankfurt and German people.. tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 22:49
反正商务舱自己有隔起来空间???? 大多数business class是没有隔开的。。 lufthansa的business更加没有隔开了, 连个能够提上来的隔板都没有的。 从seattle depart的, 只有qatar现在是完全自己隔开来的空间。。 你这种人, 一看就知道you don't know what you are talking about
反正商务舱自己有隔起来空间???? 大多数business class是没有隔开的。。 lufthansa的business更加没有隔开了, 连个能够提上来的隔板都没有的。 从seattle depart的, 只有qatar现在是完全自己隔开来的空间。。 你这种人, 一看就知道you don't know what you are talking about
OMG!!! You are a genius!!! except that the reference flight to Sydney, i think the transit airport was in chicago, instead of LAX? But I really can''t remember tastybeef9 发表于 2022-05-21 22:08
backtracking? LAX(or maybe SFO) was the most obvious option. SEA-ORD-SYD is a waste. the only thing worst than that route is flying from JFK to SFO through HKG
itinerary 上面, munich 是 2:50pm 到, 然后3:35pm depart, 一共是 45 minute transit time。
到了 CLJ, 就发现 flight delayed, 一共delay 45分钟。 就是说 到那里的时间和 那里depart的时间是一样。。
但ticketing 还是给了我boarding pass。 说也有可能可以赶到。 我想也有可能。 有一次我去澳大利亚, 美国seattle 飞忘了什么城市了,然后再飞sydney, 然后那天估计好多delay, 所有有不同的城市的flight 到那个 departure city 都delay了, 所有united? 好像等了我们。
然后我过了security,屁股还没坐热,就发现更加delay了。。 要变成 4:10pm 到munich。。 然后我看了看google flight, 发现有一个4:20pm的flight, 从 Munich 飞到 SFO。。
然后我就回到ticketing counter, 问那女的, 说能不能给我改到SFO啊, SFO以后的, 我也不要你们管了。。
然后那个ticketing 女的说, that flight is not in my system. The gate closes 10 minute before, I don''''''''t even see it in my system
但问题是我在拿boarding pass的时候, 前面一个人也有delay的问题, 然后那个ticketing女的就说给他另外一个航班的boarding pass as backup。。。。so the dude gets two boarding passes..
我说, 来不来的及再说, 你也给我个backup boarding pass。 否则我在munich, 错过了去YVR, 还要和那里的help desk 交涉, 更加来不及了
反正那女的就是说, can''''''''t even see it in the system
然后她打了个central booking 的电话, 她们反正是一打就通的那种。 电话里面, 被告知, 要reschedule, 要等到后天??!!!
我说BULLSHIT!!!! 我现在google flight就能看见 CLJ 到 FRA, 然后FRA 到SEA的飞机。。 但要在FRA过夜。 至少是明天的飞机!
然后ticketing 女的, 拿过我的phone, 告诉电话里的人flight number。 然后电话里的人搞了一整子, 说帮我rebook了。。
等我发现她们已经开始rebook了, 我有个细小的声音在我心里想, 要不要就先飞去munich再说。。。
但我也没好意思告诉她们说, stop, let me just fly to munich and see。。。。
然后ticketing 女的告诉我, 她还不帮定overnight hotel。。 说让我去FRA的 lufthansa help desk, 自己去那里交涉。。。
MLGB的
然后呢, 结果大家都知道了。。。
我本来的delayed CLJ 到 MUC 的飞机, 要比他们宣布的new delayed time提前出发了, 最终 3:37到, 但是下一班去YVR也delay了, 3:50才depart。 我应该是能敢上那个飞机的。 即使敢不上, 4:10pm去SFO的足够能赶上了。。。
结果呢, 在CLJ等了四个小时, 做了个飞机去FRA。 当天FRA去打雷下雨. 很多很多飞机到FRA, 特别是lufthansa的, 到FRA都是晚点, 或者直接被cancel。 FRA一个terminal里面, 都属于lufthansa的, 然后那个terminal的所有的desk, 都排满了人, 有的要重新book, 有的重新book到后天, 想问能不能提前。
我排了一个队伍, 来了一个serbia女的, 说自己要去英国manchester还不是哪里, 有个thai kwon doe competition, 这女的, 在那里哭啊, 问我能不能排我前面, 我说没问题
然后还有个老男人, 在那里, 用google translate说, 他是个surgeon, 要有个surgery他要去参加。。
有几个egypt那里的arabic, 就不好了。 有一家人, 要插队。 说自己有个小孩, 有autism。。 但问题来了。。 他们就插队, 插到最前面。 问题来了, serbia女的, 跟他们说, 我是有competition的, 要去那里, 那一家人的男的就说, 我们要插到第一个, 因为我们有一个autism孩子, 等会要scream。。。
然后那一家arbic的, 就插到了最前面, 结果也不是rebooking! 他们已经被rebook到the day after tomorrow, 他们现在要个hotel voucher。 然后lufthansa的人, 就帮他们定motel。。。 然后再给他们voucher。。 但是他们要triple room, 因为是三个人 (二个大人, 一个小孩)。 lufthansa的工作人员, 搞了20多分钟, 都没有搞定。。。
然后那个serbia女的, 在那里哭的。。期间, 还有一个lufthansa的工作人员, 按点就下班了。
那个arabic一家人的小孩, 看上去一点autism都没有, 一直和另外一家arabic的小孩在那里玩。 那个"autism"的父亲, 后来又对工作人员说, 他家小孩有 "minor autism", 能不能看看有明天的飞机没有。。 我听到minor, 简直就是 WTF!然后工作人员叫他明天早上7点来机场wait list, 那个男的又说, 啊, 有小孩, 不行啊。。 WTF
最后, 后面的人开始吵起来了, 一个亚洲脸的FRA的机场人员, 对后面排队的一个人, yell说 “shut up, yeah, you shut up”。。 然后我开始骂那家arabic的, 说你们一点都不considerate, using your kid as an excuse, she''''''''s trying to make a competition, you are just trying to figure out a hotel room..
然后吵了吵, lufthansa就来了two additional staffer, 帮弄service
然后跟我说, 要么给我voucher, 要么我自己定 3 star hotel, 自己再到 lufthansa 网上去reimburse。。。 我问, 能不能给我个airport hotel。。 他们说, 他们system里面没有。。 然后给了我一个开车要20分钟的motel。 比motel 6 还要差点
然后网上说, EU flight delay, 不是因为weather或者extraordinarily circumstance是可以ask for reimbursement, 我看看像我这种情况是可以 (on paper) reimburse到600 EUR。。 得自己先去lufthansa网上投诉弄。。
反正, 以后是Lufthansa再也不用了。 德国人反正都是特别的rude, 我接触过的机场人员, flight attendants, 都没有笑脸。 我有时积累了点mileage, 做他们的business, 也是service非常一般, 还是 2,2, 2 configuration。做他们, 也只是因为他们家便宜, 又duration短。。。
我read你的, 一点都没有confused的
哈哈哈
以后遇到flight delay causing you the probability of missing your connecting flight, always flight to your connecting airport first... there''s always a slight chance of you making the flight..
不要像我一样, 在departure airport就改itenerary
connection 航班如果延误的人多的话,会等待的,尤其如果是国际航班。
有一次我从Boston回中国在旧金山转,晚点了个把小时,到了旧金山。正好差不多是国际航班起飞的时间,连滚带爬赶去上了飞机,然后又过了45分钟到一个小时才起飞。我们坐下后,陆陆续续不断有乘客上来。
你这一个大锤也锤死了汉莎。我上次飞汉莎,一包行李被晚点,服务特别特别好啊。叫我怎么办,要不要也跟着丢了汉莎的信心?楼主能不能给言简意赅的一句话表达下,汉莎除了你看的态度不好,最大问题是啥?
你这个回复太搞了 觉得还撒娇嘻嘻的 哈哈哈
楼主想太多one step ahead,结果更麻烦。应该糊里糊涂也就赶上了
从第四行的 “但ticketing 还是给了我boarding pass。 说也有可能可以赶到。 我想也有可能。” 这以前的行文逻辑文笔都很流畅,大家都能看懂,相信每一个读者看到这里都期待接下来能看到这个“可能”有没有实现,但楼主却话锋急转,把读者一下子带到了云雾山中,如下: “有一次我去澳大利亚, 美国seattle 飞忘了什么城市了,然后再飞sydney, 然后那天估计好多delay, 所有有不同的城市的flight 到那个 departure city 都delay了, 所有united? 好像等了我们。”
坏了,真的不知所云,读者被带到了沟里。我相信绝大多数人读到这里,顶多再往下读两行就打住了。有耐心的从头再读,到这里又一次卡壳打住;有的直说没看懂,有的说太长,其实就是卡在那个点读不下去了。。。。
没有恶意,如果楼主希望大家get到你,请改一下上边的叙述,用一两句话在那个点交代一下结果,如果想细说再展开,记住另起一个新段落。相信你会收到更多的讨论。
我的个妈,我看了你的才反应过来 其实中英还好,是航班related用了english,就是太long了。
Original Plan:
Plan B:
LZ actual flight after FRA over night:
Ref trip to Sydney:
LZ read EU Regulation 261 regarding comp.
这个厉害,请问用什么应用能画航线图?
看不懂
有人翻译吗
比 台湾 林大叔 更厉害
你tm是个人才,我全看懂了!
阅读起来头疼
我记得 是不是 有个 人说去罗马利亚
周日关门 快饿死了什么的
写的也是乱七八糟的
楼主 如果考试 写作文
估计阅读的老师 会发疯
这几天 德国西部 狂风暴雨
西德鲁尔区 还出现了 龙卷风
不怕。 我从2020 年底左右, 到现在, 去了 croatia, egypt, north macedonia, albania, turkey, czeche republic, namibia, dominican republic, argentina, romania,
从来没有过什么covid。 然后我只去不怎么带口罩/没人带口罩的国家
你不是上次 在罗马尼亚 快饿死了
还去
这些都是 偏远地区 , 没啥国际城市的地方
你去伦敦 旅游不就得了
伦敦和美国各大城市都有直接航线
成天折腾这么多干啥啊
Lufthansa itself is ok. I take it a lot because it has a direct flight from seattle to Frankfurt, so it's usually the shortest flight if I want to go to Balkans, etc. And it's usually the cheapest
The bad is Germany and Germans. First, it's a pain in the ass that it still requires a mask... Second of all, the police at Frankfurt airport is rude, egotistic, and racist... 前几天看说hasidic jew被frankfurt 机场警察arrest, 我和那里的警察也因为masks, 起过冲突。。。
然后你在frankfurt机场吃个饭, 结账时候, 那些waiter/waitress还问你要tip。。 我昨天吃了个早饭, 结账时候, 被问, do you want to leave any tip?
I said no. I was just in romania for a month, and I didn't have to tip for any meal!!!! I am getting pissed about tipping..
so I said no... and the woman was like, are you not happy with the service or the food? I was like, no, it was ok.
Then the waitress was like, well, then 10% is custom for service...
I was forced to pay for a fuccking tip!!!!! I mean, in Germany, and in Europe in general, waiters/waitresses are decently paid!!! It's not like they are paid below minimum wage!
你的脾气真大
昏
OMG!!!
You are a genius!!!
except that the reference flight to Sydney, i think the transit airport was in chicago, instead of LAX? But I really can't remember
yeah, Frankfurt airport was full of frustrated travelers.. I heard there was some thunderstorm..
so when I got to Frankfurt, I went to terminal A to get a hotel voucher from Lufthansa. I think all of terminal A belongs to Lufthansa. And it was full of people trying to rebook..
就一次啊, 我在Romania呆了一个月。。
你们德国那边的food, 咸的我, 太他妈的salt了!!!我在romania, 没吃过一顿好的。
最后一顿dinner, 一个waitress问我how''s the food. 然后我说, too salty. I was hoping that she can take the dish back to the kitchen and have the chef to make it less salty..
结果她只是很racist的说, it''s romania
然后我想, 那你他妈的问我 how''s the food 干嘛??!
你的脾气真大
哎
估计 给你服务 也真不容易
哈哈哈
我通常用这些来预防老年痴呆
建议 下次从柏林 飞美国
柏林很少有暴雨 龙卷风
西德 经常出现 暴雨和龙卷风
怎么不容易? 我点food, 他们送上来。 我结账。。 根本就 no service is needed
还要 10%??!
像我刚才去我经常去的japanese restaurant, 那可是服务一流。 主动帮我拿走吃光的dish, 主动refill water, tea, 我进门的时候, 就说welcome back。 我走的时候, 还鞠躬用日语和我说了什么
这种服务, 我才给20%。。。
I fly out of seattle, the direct flight is seattle to FRA
下次 从纽约 到欧洲吧
纽约 和 欧洲各大城市的航班很多
所以我傻逼啊。。 我没飞去transit airport, 这样反倒有可能赶上当天飞美国的航班
自己傻不垃圾的, 在departure airport, 就改。。 这样反倒在那种shithole germany国家 motel 6 呆了一晚
可怜的楼主
每次 在欧洲都被饿昏
下次在柏林转飞机
到我家吃饭吧
对了, 德国, romania, 那里, BMW, mecedez的车子是不是特别便宜? 德国的taxi都是mercedes
我没注意过出租车
柏林出租车很少
飞机场下面就是大型火车站
下飞机 到上火车, 步行 2 分钟不到
The german language is so hard sounding, the way the language sounds is just like how Germans act.. always a stick up their ass.. Romanian are similar
你尽量 Angry controll 一下吧
感觉你脾气不小
我脾气再大, 也没有你们这些德国人大。。
我在Frankfurt机场, 机场人员, 那是直接yell 告诉traveler shut up!
Lufthansa is OK. I don't like it because it still requires a mask, and the food is below average. The food in economy is just nasty pasta.. there's no meat.. Even in business, it's a 2 2 2 configuration. So you are always sitting next to someone even in business. I really dislike Frankfurt and German people..
222有什么问题么,反正商务舱自己有隔起来空间,旁边有人你也看不到 德国人就是你的反面,你有多咋呼德国人就有多安静,所以德国人不待见你这样的,你这样的也不喜欢德国人,你知道为什么他们叫你们闭嘴么,因为你们这些旅客叽叽喳喳太特么吵了
反正商务舱自己有隔起来空间????
大多数business class是没有隔开的。。 lufthansa的business更加没有隔开了, 连个能够提上来的隔板都没有的。 从seattle depart的, 只有qatar现在是完全自己隔开来的空间。。
你这种人, 一看就知道you don't know what you are talking about
总算有一个人看懂了我的post
哈哈哈哈
那也得有航班才行啊,1月份飞巴黎,飞机上没人,想怎么改怎么改,现在就很难很难。
自己搜搜法航的评价吧 祝你好运
你才是呱噪半天不知道自己在说什么,看看多少人说看不懂你的帖子
你是到处跑挣里程去了还是打卡准备走遍各国呀?
great circle mapper. that's how us real flyers talk with each other.
backtracking? LAX(or maybe SFO) was the most obvious option. SEA-ORD-SYD is a waste. the only thing worst than that route is flying from JFK to SFO through HKG
哈哈哈
替 习近平 考察 一路一带
楼主的脾气真大
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Berlin
楼主下次坐火车吧。
另外 到 欧洲几个大的国际性城市。
交通方便些。
别老是去 东欧, 非洲等偏远地区了。