对冲基金倒闭, 做空的!

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hgs3579
楼主 (北美华人网)
Melvin Capital, hedge fund torpedoed by the GameStop frenzy, is shutting down.
Melvin Capital, the hedge fund run by Gabe Plotkin that struggled with heavy losses last year as it reeled from wrong-way bets on GameStop, is shutting down, according to a letter sent to investors on Wednesday that was reviewed by The New York Times. Mr. Plotkin wrote to his investors that he had decided that the “appropriate next step” was to liquidate the fund’s assets and return cash to all investors. Mr. Plotkin, who founded Melvin in 2014, also wrote that he recognized he needed to “step away from managing external capital.”
Mr. Plotkin, a protégé of the hedge fund billionaire and New York Mets owner Steven A. Cohen, had wagered that shares GameStop, AMC Entertainment and other mall mainstays from the 1990s would fall as their businesses shrank. Instead, the stocks skyrocketed when amateur investors, coordinating via Reddit, Twitter and other social media sites and determined to outsmart big Wall Street funds, kept buying up shares and propping up their price. That caused Melvin, which had $8 billion in assets under management in January 2021, to lose billions of dollars as it scrambled to cover its so-called short positions. It was propped up by a $2.75 billion bailout from the hedge funds Point72, run by Mr. Cohen, and Citadel, as well as fresh capital from new investors. Before deciding to shutter his fund, Mr. Plotkin had considered reconstituting it. The decision to close Melvin, which Mr. Plotkin named after his late grandfather, is a blow to Mr. Plotkin’s reputation. He had gained fame as one of the most successful portfolio managers to emerge from Mr. Cohen’s former hedge fund, SAC Capital.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/18/business/melvin-capital-gamestop-short.html
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baoermm
天, GAMESTOP这么个傻冒股, 那么明显overvalued
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Tina_tgif
喔,这是信息时代散户韭菜不好割,然后小镰刀被大镰刀给收拾了么?我顶烦这种对冲基金,眼里只有钱,一点社会责任感都没有的华尔街精英少一个是一个
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zhegufei
太好了。还是脸皮厚,我以为他要自杀的
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IsabellaQ
喔,这是信息时代散户韭菜不好割,然后小镰刀被大镰刀给收拾了么?我顶烦这种对冲基金,眼里只有钱,一点社会责任感都没有的华尔街精英少一个是一个
Tina_tgif 发表于 2022-05-19 12:09

同意,鄙视花街那帮人,不创造任何价值,浪费了那么多年的教育
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gokgs
同意,鄙视花街那帮人,不创造任何价值,浪费了那么多年的教育
IsabellaQ 发表于 2022-05-19 12:30

嗯, 我觉得应该取消这些基金, 妥妥的把股市变成了赌场。
大的机构 price power 太强。
大概可以限制基金规模, 或者限制交易次数, 或者限制每只股票的购买数量之类的。
让散户自己弄可能比较合理, 大家都是韭菜, 共同成长。 哈哈
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nickbear
喔,这是信息时代散户韭菜不好割,然后小镰刀被大镰刀给收拾了么?我顶烦这种对冲基金,眼里只有钱,一点社会责任感都没有的华尔街精英少一个是一个
Tina_tgif 发表于 2022-05-19 12:09

长者说了闷声大发财是有道理的,这种赚黑心钱还喜欢蹦跶的被收拾不奇怪
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Taptap
回复 2楼baoermm的帖子
还是不太了解做空啊。做空最忌讳的之一其实就是把valuation作为理由。
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claireliu
喔,这是信息时代散户韭菜不好割,然后小镰刀被大镰刀给收拾了么?我顶烦这种对冲基金,眼里只有钱,一点社会责任感都没有的华尔街精英少一个是一个
Tina_tgif 发表于 2022-05-19 12:09

当时每天交易量是市值的好多倍,这不是散户能搞的出来的,散户无非就是买了留个纪念,不会一天中反复买卖。这个局是程序化交易搞出来的。韭菜就是幌子。
数量运动
回复 1楼hgs3579的帖子
这家伙倒霉,去年做空GME,今年做多
冰是睡着的水
天, GAMESTOP这么个傻冒股, 那么明显overvalued
baoermm 发表于 2022-05-19 12:06

记得疫情时候大家一起合力推的事情
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snowpenguin
居然真的被Reddit的小散户搞死了哈哈哈哈哈
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BaoMaoDou
嗯, 我觉得应该取消这些基金, 妥妥的把股市变成了赌场。
大的机构 price power 太强。
大概可以限制基金规模, 或者限制交易次数, 或者限制每只股票的购买数量之类的。
让散户自己弄可能比较合理, 大家都是韭菜, 共同成长。 哈哈
gokgs 发表于 2022-05-19 12:49

加税就行了。针对一年获利高于1千万的部分收重税。。。。但是现在相反,富豪的税率比w2还低。。
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liumao
回复 1楼hgs3579的帖子
这家伙倒霉,去年做空GME,今年做多
数量运动 发表于 2022-05-20 12:19

正解。被左右抽脸。
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qgp
人家现在close掉就不需要对以前的investor负责,不然有high watermark,赚回到原来的之前都不能收20%佣金的。close掉再开个新的就没有这个负担了。所以现在investor都很愤怒