到底请升学顾问有用吗？？？

有那种按小时收费的 可以先聊聊看看适合不适合再说

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Mark!

Mark

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。

Mark. 谢谢分享！

mark 升学顾问

Markmark

Mark

同样困惑的人

MARK！

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

看的头大

马克马克马克

关键是LG很反对升学指导甚至我为小孩制定计划项目，理由和前面反对升学指导的一样，不想为孩子规划一切，希望自然而然的让孩子成长，大学后反正也管不住，最好现在就开始，他还总说再怎么也能CSU吧，实在不行community college再转UC，还有这么多不需要大学文凭的好工作（护士，imaging tech之类）。但是我的想法就是和大家一样，觉得有时候和她交流有困难，她不愿意听，升学指导的话也许她会听，毕竟他们接触的孩子多，也许请不请最后结果都一样，但是不请觉得心虚。
bernard123 发表于 2022-05-14 09:42

你老公是对的，进到很好大学的孩子其实是很自推的一群，请不请顾问都可以进，不能自推的请一般的没有区别，花大钱请，勉强进也不好混，得不偿失。

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太对了！ 华人父母管的太多。短期会有效。长远来看其实可能害了孩子

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

Mark mark, 谢谢

mark .

很烦，华人越来越卷，升学顾问属于火上浇油，制造焦虑，牟取暴利的一帮人。

很烦，华人越来越卷，升学顾问属于火上浇油，制造焦虑，牟取暴利的一帮人。

Christina05 发表于 2022-05-14 20:56

最好少看微信，很多公众号就是贩卖焦虑来赚钱的

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

强帖mark

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

Mark下来。 谢谢

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。
marylander2 发表于 2022-05-14 19:31

你家孩子很棒。一定是聪明又自推的孩子。
不过请个升学顾问，还远不至于“完全由别人安排人生”。相信有很多人不觉得自己能够完全正确指导孩子，又怕耽误孩子，请个顾问，买个安心。也许不请，结果也差不多。

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

升学秘籍，mark

我家也是，想了好久，后面还是请了，不知道效果如何，就当买个安心吧。

Mark!!!

女孩成绩好，没EC，20 名左右的大学应该没问题。

网上流传的这个秘籍，对应的学校排名是什么呀？

马克，谢谢分享

Mark

学习一下

马克

Markkk

Mark

亲眼所见的实例。两个男娃，一个是标准的well rounded, organic娃，没有死角也没有spike，家长没找顾问。另一个各方面差不少，家长一直请各种tutor，顾问手把手写essay。两个娃录的学校差不少。当然你也可以说大学不是终点，以后的人生路如何如何。事实上对大部分的普通娃找人雕琢一下肯定是有帮助的。

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mark mark。我儿子从小学开始就要当律师，实在不知道哪来的这个想法。

看得我忽然想当升学顾问。这钱太好赚了吧？我同意牛蛙肯定牛，有没有顾问都能爬藤。我朋友的牛娃被斯坦福和藤都录了。没钱请顾问。她的essay仅仅是English teacher 帮忙critique的。华语顾问不可能有美国的英文老师的英文厉害吧？

mark yixia

最夸张的是现在小升初，初升高都有顾问了。

mark一下

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适合孩子的就是好学校。普通孩子升学顾问包装进了竞争激烈的好学校，结果大学四年学的很挣扎毕业，你说对孩子是好事还是坏事？ 我觉得还不如凭自己实力进一个相应的大学，快快乐乐大学生涯。

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有很多英语是母语的人做升学顾问的，不仅仅是讲中文的人。而且，升学顾问和editor并不一定是同一个人。
当然可以找英文老师或者英文好的亲朋好友帮忙，但也有很多人因为这样那样的原因没有这样的资源。
每个家庭的情况不一样，有的人不介意花这笔钱，有的人觉得不值。看自己的需要和情况而定。

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问题是在美国申请大学，学习成绩并不是唯一的指标。而且说实话，除了那些hard core的学校和专业，其他的学校与专业，大部分的华人孩子都可以念下来的。
至少我们请顾问并不是为了提高成绩，我家孩子的成绩已经是同年级的top 1%。她今年的录取结果不错，但他们学校有录取Yale, Princeton，Harvard的，学习成绩都不如她。我不觉得她上这几所学校会很挣扎。就像我说的，如果不介意花请顾问的钱，也不会引起家里的矛盾，而且也有靠谱的顾问，那就花。
其实归根结底就是这笔钱值不值得的问题。在顾问靠谱的前提下，其他的理由都不成立。这就像去藤校还是去旗舰公立的问题，有的父母认为不值得多付那么多钱去藤校，有的父母认为值得。就是这么回事

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

我看不懂却大受震撼。。。

厉害了...

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网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

mark 记下来

马上9年级的女生，自己还不知道自己喜欢什么，也没有什么academic或者文体强项，自己满足于每科得A。我们家长也不知道目标在哪里。大概想的就是UC系列。她自己对CS, ROBOTIC都不感兴趣，说几个朋友都说想学医，那她自己也可以学医方面把。我就想如果她真想学医，那就不用请升学顾问了，反正都是需要大学成绩的，我们也管不到大学了。但是她自己也不决定不知道。我说那就请个升学顾问吧，看看她这个情况到底能干嘛或者指导一下，但是LG对升学顾问非常反感，觉得升学顾问没用，尤其是不爬藤。我说我父母出钱为孙女请，他还是反对。所以，请问，请过的觉得升学顾问有用吗
bernard123 发表于 2022-05-14 01:14

不知道自己想干啥的最应该去私立大学。因为入学专业不定；即使二年级定了专业之后，想换也很容易，只要能把专业规定的课都修完，啥时候换专业都行。

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

这个厉害了，mark!

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网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

mark

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

谢谢分享，好人一生平安

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Mark mark

mark

看得我忽然想当升学顾问。这钱太好赚了吧？我同意牛蛙肯定牛，有没有顾问都能爬藤。我朋友的牛娃被斯坦福和藤都录了。没钱请顾问。她的essay仅仅是English teacher 帮忙critique的。华语顾问不可能有美国的英文老师的英文厉害吧？
provencebebe 发表于 2022-05-14 23:07

找顾问，不一定找的是华语顾问。反正我不会找华语顾问。

我以前发过请不请顾问的贴，牛蛙和垫底的娃不需要请，中间的娃需要请。请顾问一定要对每个娃有“量身定做”的规划，不要是那种流水线加工厂。

我以前发过请不请顾问的贴，牛蛙和垫底的娃不需要请，中间的娃需要请。请顾问一定要对每个娃有“量身定做”的规划，不要是那种流水线加工厂。
grandocean 发表于 2022-05-15 01:35

有道理。这下我更坚定了给我家中间女娃请顾问的决心了。

mark mark thx

牛，要先看看啊

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

升学秘籍

马克马克

看得我忽然想当升学顾问。这钱太好赚了吧？我同意牛蛙肯定牛，有没有顾问都能爬藤。我朋友的牛娃被斯坦福和藤都录了。没钱请顾问。她的essay仅仅是English teacher 帮忙critique的。华语顾问不可能有美国的英文老师的英文厉害吧？
provencebebe 发表于 2022-05-14 23:07

中国人升学顾问通常本人不改essay的，他们都会另外雇英文好的帮客户改essay.

Mark mark

我家老大没请升学顾问，上了个UC，顺顺当当。在大学里欢欢喜喜，功课没啥压力。反正他从小到大我觉的他都是轻松的。实习也轻松找到有了工作了。 反倒老二，是个自推娃也不肯跟父母多交流，什么都自己扛。快到申请大学季了，问她要不要升学顾问，她说找个改essay的吧。周边问了一圈，死贵死贵。Essay我们也帮不上，打算给找个改essay的。有没有推荐靠谱改essay的？ 本来指望老大给老二把把门，可惜老二也不跟老大交流，无解了。花点钱改essay吧。 私心也希望老二上UC，省钱。
xiaoyagaga 发表于 2022-05-14 13:10

死贵是多少钱？

我只听说过 D1……
Gandalf229 发表于 2022-05-14 16:59

孩子能做到D1的家长肯定或迟或早都会知道；
如果孩子做不到，听说也没意义

孩子能做到D1的家长肯定或迟或早都会知道；
如果孩子做不到，听说也没意义
SAT 发表于 2022-05-15 08:36

哈哈，这样说我家孩子有可能能做到D1。不过D1 的大学太多了，很多还是华人根本看不上眼的学校。

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。
marylander2 发表于 2022-05-14 19:31

😄恭喜2娃！能分享一下detail

越贵越好

哈哈，这样说我家孩子有可能能做到D1。不过D1 的大学太多了，很多还是华人根本看不上眼的学校。
Gandalf229 发表于 2022-05-15 08:42

是这样！所以华人孩子体育能做到D1的也基本不会去D1的学校

谢谢分享。

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

mark

mark，升学顾问，谢谢分享！

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。
marylander2 发表于 2022-05-14 19:31

妹妹能分享下两个孩子靠什么进大学的吗？体育？义工？领导船？

看情况，刚刚看了pbs的纪录片“try harder”。 里面一个孩子去了理想的大学全奖全凭他妈请了个顾问。另一个孩子，妈妈台湾人对小孩学习很重视，但不熟美国大学申请的套路，本来孩子爸没有高中文凭可以大大spin一下，娃不好意思提她也不管结果差点悲剧。美国大学申请很操蛋的，尤其对亚裔，如果不是绝对优秀，包装是个技术活，深谙此道的肯定有帮助。

回复 139楼yanle的帖子
问题是在美国申请大学，学习成绩并不是唯一的指标。而且说实话，除了那些hard core的学校和专业，其他的学校与专业，大部分的华人孩子都可以念下来的。
至少我们请顾问并不是为了提高成绩，我家孩子的成绩已经是同年级的top 1%。她今年的录取结果不错，但他们学校有录取Yale, Princeton，Harvard的，学习成绩都不如她。我不觉得她上这几所学校会很挣扎。就像我说的，如果不介意花请顾问的钱，也不会引起家里的矛盾，而且也有靠谱的顾问，那就花。
其实归根结底就是这笔钱值不值得的问题。在顾问靠谱的前提下，其他的理由都不成立。这就像去藤校还是去旗舰公立的问题，有的父母认为不值得多付那么多钱去藤校，有的父母认为值得。就是这么回事
LJG 发表于 2022-05-14 23:43

那就是说，你家的顾问不是很得力

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

我的天

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

Mark

是这样！所以华人孩子体育能做到D1的也基本不会去D1的学校
SAT 发表于 2022-05-15 08:51

好的D1的学校一般也进不去吧

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

mark

回复 176楼eastjess01的帖子
不是这样，我对他们挺满意的。那几个上大藤的都有别人没有的优势，而我们去了自己想去的学校，也是藤校。与排名相比，是否适合对我们更重要。
我说那些只是想证明，学习成绩并不是申请大学的唯一，或者说最重要的指标。孩子优秀，不需要任何帮助就上了顶尖的学校，当然很好，还省钱。但另一方面，在升学顾问的帮助下上了很好的大学，也不会存在挣扎毕业，甚至以后堪忧的情况。

mark

好的D1的学校一般也进不去吧
dugout 发表于 2022-05-15 11:06

定义什么是好的D1？SEC，ACC，Big10， Pac12还是华人关注的ivy league？

人傻钱多的会请，把孩子的自主能动性消耗殆尽。真正的人生离家后才开始，尽量早地放手让孩子掌握自己的人生才是真的对孩子好，很多华人一代想不明白。大学里工作后出类拔萃的无一不是特别独立有主见的人
lbff 发表于 2022-05-14 16:10

赞👍。有想法有主见有行动力，聪明反而没那么重要。教书这么多年，看得很清楚。成功几大要素：不笨，目的性强，有精力不怕累，脸皮厚 。

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。
marylander2 发表于 2022-05-14 19:31

我认识的上藤校的也是这样的情况。不认识靠顾问上名校的。

上大学只是人生中的一步，以后还有很长的路要走。一个孩子如果自己没有机会寻找自己的路，完全由别人安排人生。。。这样的孩子即便勉强上了好点的学校以后也是堪忧。我自己俩孩子初中开始就让她们自己做主，我只负责掏钱，做她们的后勤。俩孩子都没得上面列出的任何大奖。也没上过任何补习班，更没请什么升学顾问。都是凭她们自己喜欢的方向发展。她们做的都出乎我的意外! 俩孩子自己写申请essay, 我说要不要看看些范文，坚决不看。 就这样，俩孩子都上了自己最喜欢的top 10 学校。
marylander2 发表于 2022-05-14 19:31

是top 10，还是自己喜欢的top 10？没有任何EC吗？

没用 就是烧钱

据我看到的，国内来上中学的好像请顾问的比较多，本地出生的孩子或很小过来的孩子请顾问的不多。最后录取藤校的都是本来就是牛孩子，跟请不请顾问关系不是很大。最后如想请顾问的话也要征询一下孩子的意见为好。

Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall
这个不是好多孩子recital都在那办的吗？是什么样的special perf？

Mark一下

mark,感谢分享，美国大学录取体系对于我们只经历过国内高考的感觉是个谜，帖子里的有用信息不少。

网上流传甚广的升学秘籍， 比一般的顾问管用 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Intel ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson 10 Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT 14 PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU SAMS; NIH Research; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 5 YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB 3 RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT 14 Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholar
kitty2 发表于 2022-05-14 03:35

收藏，谢谢

mark

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Mark

回复 1楼bernard123的帖子
你看看孩子的同学和周围的同龄人 如果大多数都请了升学顾问 大体上你们也会请 不然别人有各种包装 最后上了一个比较好的学校 自己孩子上的学校普通 到时候孩子和家长都会跺脚。 这种peer pressure 在升学的时候 会格外的明显吧。如果不在乎大学排名 就是想读个大学 读个喜欢的专业 根本不需要找这些顾问！