The unemployment rate held steady at 3.6 percent in April, near 50-year lows last hit before the pandemic Employers added 428,000 jobs, as the labor market remains strong. The economy is on pace to return to pre-pandemic job levels by this summer.
中国2021四季度国内生产总值324237亿元 中国2022一季度国内生产总值270178亿元 按不变价格计算，同比增长4.8%，比2021年四季度环比增长1.3%。 US first quarter Current‑dollar GDP increased 6.5 percent at an annual rate, or $379.9 billion, 所以中国叫增长，美国叫衰退，谢谢统计局，如果美国经济要崩了，那么大国呢？
中国2021四季度国内生产总值324237亿元 中国2022一季度国内生产总值270178亿元 按不变价格计算，同比增长4.8%，比2021年四季度环比增长1.3%。 US first quarter Current‑dollar GDP increased 6.5 percent at an annual rate, or $379.9 billion, 所以中国叫增长，美国叫衰退，谢谢统计局，如果美国经济要崩了，那么大国呢？ itspid 发表于 2022-05-06 11:59
回复 10楼momclub17的帖子 搜了一下： The participation rate measures the percentage of Americans who are in the labor force. The unemployment rate measures the percentage within the labor force that is currently without a job. A high participation rate combined with a low unemployment rate is a sure sign of a robust job market. Following a recession in 2001 and the 2008 financial crisis, for example, the participation rate saw significant dips.1 Many economists point to the baby boomer generation retiring and leaving the labor force as partly responsible for a decrease in labor participation. Economists also argue that the decline is the result of low-skilled workers losing their jobs to outsourcing or automation, having no success finding new employment, and therefore dropping out of the labor force entirely. For this reason, they feel the participation rate is a more accurate measure of the state of the job market than the unemployment rate.
The unemployment rate held steady at 3.6 percent in April, near 50-year lows last hit before the pandemic Employers added 428,000 jobs, as the labor market remains strong. The economy is on pace to return to pre-pandemic job levels by this summer.
相当于1933年前夜，主要是看labor productivity。 如果labor productivity 不高，而且没有股价推高，要么降薪，要么裁员。
整体Labor productivity 降低7.8%，细分到普通企业，可能是10%-20%
那倒不是。
其实现在就业率不高倒是真的。总体来说实体经济活力不高，高通胀，资产有泡沫，加息挤一挤没毛病。当然有些行业多少会受到负面影响。
那失业率暴增又怎么说呢 难道那时候经济好？反正怎么说都可以
失业率没关系，如果可以转嫁风险就没事，以前是中国解盘搞高铁，现在和中国脱钩，你也要找地方释放
但是股市得回调了
失业率太高还是会引发很多问题的，房贷断供，房东收不到租又得政府印钱来救，国债愈来愈高，恶性循环。
好像是inflation高 unemployment rate 会低 我在哪里读过
担心这个趋势会不会不可逆反的，还是会随着疫情在全球的好转而恢复呢。
对我自己来说，确实有些方面很难逆转。譬如对于时尚的消费极大降低，变得更加向内去寻找愉悦。现在即使恢复上班，也不再想穿高跟，转而寻求更舒服的着装等等。
光看这种信号没法预测，经济崩了之前自然都是在高点上，衰退前夕各方面指标都是一个周期内最高的。
你看组合，而不是单单看失业率。
如果生产率高，股价上升，失业率降低，说明供不应求。 如果生产率降低，股价下跌，失业率降低，一旦行业寻求自保，那么之前失业率降低新找工作的人，连换工作的地方都没有。
就现在这个通货膨胀，物价飞涨，参加劳动的人数低迷，物业链的问题得不到解决，经济怎么会好？
美国有问题不等于中国没问题，这次全球哪个国家也躲不开，大家生活在美国所以讨论美国多一些
这个是真懂
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART#
我觉的不止20%，从我们公司和客户公司看至少降了50%或更多。
中国2021四季度国内生产总值324237亿元 中国2022一季度国内生产总值270178亿元 按不变价格计算，同比增长4.8%，比2021年四季度环比增长1.3%。
US first quarter Current‑dollar GDP increased 6.5 percent at an annual rate, or $379.9 billion,
所以中国叫增长，美国叫衰退，谢谢统计局，如果美国经济要崩了，那么大国呢？
工资涨了，产品没涨，是不是效率就低了，目前这个指标是否反应实际，有讨论空间。股市下跌和这个关系不大，10年公债超过3%影响比较大。
但labor force participation rate并不能直接衡量经济，五十年代很繁荣吧，labor force participation rate也只有不到60%。现在有62%，而且从新冠以来一直上升，不知道这个几十年最低怎么来的，几年内都不是最低呀。
中国2018年排名靠前的10个股票，股份都已经下去了。 也就是说，中国很多企业的裁员和减薪已经执行了半年以上，已经挤好泡沫等危机了。这就是区别了。
主要看各个企业裁员和减薪之后，能不能推高效率和股价，这个还是存在变动的。
现在赚钱的方式非常多样化，我常去的理发店老板说招不到人，以前的员工现在去送外卖，自由而且月入上万，谁还去上朝九晚五的班啊。
搜了一下：
The participation rate measures the percentage of Americans who are in the labor force.
The unemployment rate measures the percentage within the labor force that is currently without a job.
A high participation rate combined with a low unemployment rate is a sure sign of a robust job market.
Following a recession in 2001 and the 2008 financial crisis, for example, the participation rate saw significant dips.1
Many economists point to the baby boomer generation retiring and leaving the labor force as partly responsible for a decrease in labor participation. Economists also argue that the decline is the result of low-skilled workers losing their jobs to outsourcing or automation, having no success finding new employment, and therefore dropping out of the labor force entirely. For this reason, they feel the participation rate is a more accurate measure of the state of the job market than the unemployment rate.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/labor-force-projections-to-2022-the-labor-force-participation-rate-continues-to-fall.htm