Talk to payroll. They will withdraw the extra money and reimburse you the amount. You will have to pay tax if it's pre-tax contribution, also investment returns. I just did that this year.
Talk to payroll. They will withdraw the extra money and reimburse you the amount. You will have to pay tax if it's pre-tax contribution, also investment returns. I just did that this year. freshfeeling 发表于 2022-04-18 13:49
Thank you! 公司邮件说说: the deadline for over contributions to be removed from the plan has passed。 I recommend speaking with a tax advisor to determine the course of action for reporting on your 2021 tax return 这难道要一直烂在里面吗?pay tax我没有问题。
Thank you! 公司邮件说说: the deadline for over contributions to be removed from the plan has passed。 I recommend speaking with a tax advisor to determine the course of action for reporting on your 2021 tax return 这难道要一直烂在里面吗?pay tax我没有问题。 trymeagain 发表于 2022-04-18 13:52
因为我们401k 公司给的 overcontribution correction deadline is 4/6, 所以已经pass deadline. 我打算follow turbotax 给的下面的solution, 这个例子适合我们。 Example 2: Assume same information as Example 1. But Jessica doesn't discover the overpayment until November 20, 2022, and she had already filed her 2021 return. She notifies the plan administrator immediately, and she withdraws the excess on December 5. Jessica must pay additional taxes on the overpayment because she didn't withdraw the funds by the 2021 filing deadline. She amends her 2021 return to report the overpayment as if she received Form 1099-R (same as Example 1) and pays the additional taxes. On her 2022 return, Jessica enters the forms she received from the plan administrator. Only the earnings on the overpayment will be added to Jessica's 2022 income.
因为我们401k 公司给的 overcontribution correction deadline is 4/6, 所以已经pass deadline. 我打算follow turbotax 给的下面的solution, 这个例子适合我们。 Example 2: Assume same information as Example 1. But Jessica doesn't discover the overpayment until November 20, 2022, and she had already filed her 2021 return. She notifies the plan administrator immediately, and she withdraws the excess on December 5. Jessica must pay additional taxes on the overpayment because she didn't withdraw the funds by the 2021 filing deadline. She amends her 2021 return to report the overpayment as if she received Form 1099-R (same as Example 1) and pays the additional taxes. On her 2022 return, Jessica enters the forms she received from the plan administrator. Only the earnings on the overpayment will be added to Jessica's 2022 income. loveactually 发表于 2022-04-18 15:19
非常感谢!!我们公司的benefits team真的很无用,跟他打电话,他说他们什么也不了,miss了deadline;我说那我准备给payroll和empower retirement(401K administor)打电话,他说你给他们打了也没用,他们只会联系我,说你miss了deadline。。 我问那这个mistake没法fix了?他说: sorry,我也没有办法,已经过了deadline。。。 这个empower retirement的电话超级难打,听了快一个小时的“thanks for holding. we will be with you shortly",还是没人接听。。
因为我们401k 公司给的 overcontribution correction deadline is 4/6, 所以已经pass deadline. 我打算follow turbotax 给的下面的solution, 这个例子适合我们。 Example 2: Assume same information as Example 1. But Jessica doesn't discover the overpayment until November 20, 2022, and she had already filed her 2021 return. She notifies the plan administrator immediately, and she withdraws the excess on December 5. Jessica must pay additional taxes on the overpayment because she didn't withdraw the funds by the 2021 filing deadline. She amends her 2021 return to report the overpayment as if she received Form 1099-R (same as Example 1) and pays the additional taxes. On her 2022 return, Jessica enters the forms she received from the plan administrator. Only the earnings on the overpayment will be added to Jessica's 2022 income. loveactually 发表于 2022-04-18 15:19
因为我们401k 公司给的 overcontribution correction deadline is 4/6, 所以已经pass deadline. 我打算follow turbotax 给的下面的solution, 这个例子适合我们。 Example 2: Assume same information as Example 1. But Jessica doesn''t discover the overpayment until November 20, 2022, and she had already filed her 2021 return. She notifies the plan administrator immediately, and she withdraws the excess on December 5. Jessica must pay additional taxes on the overpayment because she didn''t withdraw the funds by the 2021 filing deadline. She amends her 2021 return to report the overpayment as if she received Form 1099-R (same as Example 1) and pays the additional taxes. On her 2022 return, Jessica enters the forms she received from the plan administrator. Only the earnings on the overpayment will be added to Jessica''s 2022 income. loveactually 发表于 2022-04-18 15:19
报税的时候直接让补超出部分的税, 可能有利息。 就是你得和payroll office 确认下次不超。
They will withdraw the extra money and reimburse you the amount. You will have to pay tax if it's pre-tax contribution, also investment returns. I just did that this year.
Thank you! 公司邮件说说: the deadline for over contributions to be removed from the plan has passed。 I recommend speaking with a tax advisor to determine the course of action for reporting on your 2021 tax return 这难道要一直烂在里面吗?pay tax我没有问题。
我有一年就是这样的经历。报税的时候才发现多放了。1)给现公司hr发信从401k账户退出多余放的钱。收到信说这部分钱会有一个1099表,可以在来年收到1099表以后交这部分的税 2)我没有等1099表,直接在当年税表里加上多存的数额为收入。在提交税表的时候加了一个情况说明。来年1099就来了也没再填。IRS也没找我麻烦
对,我是填turbotax发现的,真是last minute什么问题都出来; 大概多了2000,不知道会罚多少。
了解了,让我看看怎么在turbotax操作;就是把多出来的加到other income里然后附上说明对吗?
同时你检查一下你的HSA有没有多交。有多交的话同样操作
我的理解是因为已过deadline, 2021 tax 就这么报了。 然后今年的什么时候你withdraw excess, 再报2021 tax amendment.
Example 2: Assume same information as Example 1. But Jessica doesn't discover the overpayment until November 20, 2022, and she had already filed her 2021 return. She notifies the plan administrator immediately, and she withdraws the excess on December 5. Jessica must pay additional taxes on the overpayment because she didn't withdraw the funds by the 2021 filing deadline. She amends her 2021 return to report the overpayment as if she received Form 1099-R (same as Example 1) and pays the additional taxes. On her 2022 return, Jessica enters the forms she received from the plan administrator. Only the earnings on the overpayment will be added to Jessica's 2022 income.
找个有经验的accountant帮你吧。 https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/401k-plan-fix-it-guide-elective-deferrals-exceeded-code-402g-limits-for-the-calendar-year-and-excesses-were-not-distributed#:~:text=Consequences%20of%20a%20late%20distribution
非常感谢!!我们公司的benefits team真的很无用,跟他打电话,他说他们什么也不了,miss了deadline;我说那我准备给payroll和empower retirement(401K administor)打电话,他说你给他们打了也没用,他们只会联系我,说你miss了deadline。。 我问那这个mistake没法fix了?他说: sorry,我也没有办法,已经过了deadline。。。
这个empower retirement的电话超级难打,听了快一个小时的“thanks for holding. we will be with you shortly",还是没人接听。。
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你这个原文在哪里?我怎么没找到?
我找到一个link,跟你这个稍微有一点区别, https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/excess-401k-contribution-past-deadline-how-to-correct/00/2273041
这个link的意思是说,2021年的tax return要报这个excess deferral;如果2022年后面withdraw的话,明年还要再把withdraw的amount再交一次税;但是你这个帖子说2023年只用为earnings交税,excess deferral(本金)就不用交税了?
我贴的这个link还有人问,是不是可以等退休了以后再withdraw(那时候税率可能较低),这个也是可行的。总结一下就是,excess deferral要交两次税,第一次是发生的那一年(2021),第二次是withdraw的那一年,可能是下一年(2022),也可能是未来的某一年。
Yes, for year 2022 the cap is 20500. IRS 是跳着涨,一下涨1000.
Excess deferral 不可以留在plan里面。你公司的401k plan会因为你一个人被罚。一定要拿出来。越晚拿,到时整个plan会要到IRS file voluntary correction,你更麻烦。